Friends I am pleased to announce a Dealer has been secured:

LA Guitar Sales (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) has agreed to take this adventure to the next level.

Some members are very aware of Ted at LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) and his vast experience in doing custom orders.

As a result of THIS TOPIC (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=37949.0)  we have reached this point.

In order for this adventure to become reality we need 10 commited members at this point we have 6 with a few on the fence.

Please be patient in regards to downpayment required and timelines they will come to light as the dealer gets up to speed and connects with Larrivee.

I or  LAGuitars will post the detail options of the spec as I know them before Friday most of the things we have been discussing will be addressed. Some options have flexibility others are one or the other, still others I need clarity on.

Hope this meets your approval to date. Friends this is an exciting time for us all and quite an opportunity of which I feel privledged to partake. Anyone considering a Larrivee electric - there could not be a better opportunity.

Regulars on the Acoustic Guitar Forum know that Ted has been very effective at working with Larrivee, Rainsong, and Martin to produce "custom" offerings at very reasonable prices. He's a really good guy to work with, and his signing on will only help Forum V become a terrific guitar at the best possible price....

Thanks Joyce, I will be patiently looking forward to the to Forum V.   :nanadance

Mike

i'm def. interested.  i'll know for sure once all the options are on the table.

For me, I am new and poor.  Every guitar I have is 'a keeper' so for me to commit and rob a bank I'd need to know what kinda guitar the Forum RS4 would be - at least 'roughly'.  Either way, there is no doubt in my mind I'd want another RS-4... the frets will wear out half as fast :D.  Either way, I will start filling up the piggy bank.

  CONGRATULATIONS everyone. It's about time and I'm happy to see this actually materialize. I was being lured in to my first electric Larrivee, but environmental pressures exceeding my ability to maintain a standard of living that would allow another guitar purchase restrain me from the process.

  I hope this moves forward now with all good fortune and all involved receive what they hoped for. :donut2 :donut

Edit; Andrew you have what it takes to see this through. :+1:

I'm in for a lefty!  Thanks for getting this organized and I'm very excited about this being my first Larrivee electric!!
:donut :donut2 :coffee :donut2 :donut

So, what will they be like.....

I'm working on my finances as well so that I can be in on this if at all possible - those soon to be wound Larrivee mini-humbuckers are wooing me in!  :arrow

P.S. Mine will be a lefty, too (obviously).

If I'm going to do this, the guitar has to be one of those 'wow' custom instruments.  5A figure (quilt or flame) as good or better than the top on my RS4 (which is going to b hard to beat!) - a quilt top would set it apart.  There's probably going to be around 10 of these I think so there's your 10 10-tops right there!  A superb, lightly bursted trans finish, and some special inlays (I like the headstock ones I've seen) but not the point it's gaudy.  I'd love to see the hardware in 24k gold plate as well.  Gold goes together with certain finishes so well and if matched right adds even more class to the instrument.  Pickups I'd be happy with just the same as in the RS4.  I can't even speculate what could be done to make them better - they are that great.  The only thing I think that would make the RS4 even better to play (although maybe it's negligible?) is to use satin finish just on the back of the neck.

Maybe I'm missing the point but going the less expensive 'more basic' route turns the RS4 into a carved RS2 IMO in which case I'd just grab an RS2.  It's gotta be a WOW'er and it's gotta be special.  As far as cost, well, if it's a little more than the RS4, then so be it.  BTW, would there be a 1st prototype built or does everybody sort of have to 'deposit in the dark' so to speak?

Just my thoughts.

This really has me interested.  I have been in the market for a new electric for a while now and have also been interested in getting in on the Forum guitar action.  I have two problems that are plaguing me, however:  1) I have never heard or played an RS-4 (or any Larrivee electric) and 2) I really have to maintain a budget.  

I have heretofore been interested in a used Les Paul or Paul Reed Smith Custom 22/24 as that is the sound I am after.  

That said, I could really be convinced to go in on this if I can have these fears allayed.  

Quote from: bacchus on October 13, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
This really has me interested.  I have been in the market for a new electric for a while now and have also been interested in getting in on the Forum guitar action.  I have two problems that are plaguing me, however:  1) I have never heard or played an RS-4 (or any Larrivee electric) and 2) I really have to maintain a budget.  

I have heretofore been interested in a used Les Paul or Paul Reed Smith Custom 22/24 as that is the sound I am after.  

That said, I could really be convinced to go in on this if I can have these fears allayed.  

I bought my RS4 w/o having played one at all.  I have one now though, and played tons of Gibsons and other guitars.  I'll say it again: this is the best 6 string I own and there is no doubt at all I made a wrong decision.  I almost purchased a Gibson LP but the deal fell through and lucky for me, a little more searching came up with the RS4.  Just be aware the scale is longer on the RS4 (which I always played 25.5 guitars anyways) but if you're used to shorter scales, it could be a little different.  Only thing I can say about the $$$ is either pick up one used (there's a cherry burst on the FS section for a steal!) or keep on savin'!

I would have to see the price, but I am willing to go in on this assuming I can afford it.

edit:  For what it is worth, here are some preferences:

1) I like the idea of Matthew using some choice stock wood as he mentioned in the "Ideas for Forum 5 RS-4" thread.  If this drastically increases the price then I am ok with simpler options, but I definitely prefer a light burst or light finish as opposed to solid color.

2) Pickup options would be nice, though, again, I like the idea of special pickups from Matt.

3) I like the idea of something like a 'V' on the 5th fret, something unique.

None of these are deal breakers (with the exception of a really high price), and I am open, but I figured I would put my voice in the mix.

This is exciting.

So, is it in bad form to ask about the price ballpark at this point?

You'll see in my sig, that my L-03 is the most expensive instrument I own up to this point in time, but I'm itching to add to the electric stable.

I skimmed the thread that Joyce linked in the first post and I saw no mention of price.  Safe to assume same as RS-4, or more or less.  RS-4 price not on Larrivée site as far as I can tell.  What is on the Larrivée site for the RS-4 is a spelling error for mortise and tenon.

Larrivée has 'mortis and tennon', while phonetically correct, should really read 'mortise and tenon'.  I don't believe there are any generally accepted spelling alternatives for this.  I'm going to send them a note on this.  Same mistake on RS-2 page.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 13, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
The only thing I think that would make the RS4 even better to play (although maybe it's negligible?) is to use satin finish just on the back of the neck.

I agree with having a satin finish on the back of the neck. I picked up an RS-4 at The 12th Fret recently and noticed the slightly "stickier" feel of the gloss neck compared to my L-09.

Quote from: madoclake on October 13, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
I agree with having a satin finish on the back of the neck. I picked up an RS-4 at The 12th Fret recently and noticed the slightly "stickier" feel of the gloss neck compared to my L-09.

If the guitar is gloss, I'd also be happy to see a satin finish on back of the neck.

I would "guesstimate" that the price is going to be in the neighborhood of the RS-4. MSRP is over $3K; MAP is around $2,300-2,400; I suspect that if we add a few special options to this guitar, we might still be able to keep it at around $2,300-2,500 street price...gold hardware and other options will make the price go higher.

This is a GUESS, I'm NOT a dealer, and I'm not offering up an official price; I'm just trying to give a reasonable ballpark for a couple people who are wondering, realistically, what's this guitar gonna cost?

Check out this link for a couple of other cool possible options:

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38113.0


:drool:

RS-4  - Forum V
JCL Special Reserve Grade Flame Maple Top

Lightweight S.A. mahogany back / neck

Indian Rosewood Fretboard

African Ebony Headplate or Matching Headstock overlay available BUT somewhat high upcharge of $250 as fairly labor intensive to get right - again all or no one in for this. No upcharge for the African Ebony

Vine Headstock Inlay (or JCL) but all must be the same)

3/16 Dots on the fretboard instead of normal inlay

Mini Humbucker Neck Pickup (signed/numbered)

P-90 Bridge pickup (signed)

Color Forum V - a mix of Amber & Root Beer very "vintage" according to ML - some might call "Ice tea" burst I prefer to refer to it as Forum V color. No plan for Larrivee to add this color to their stock colors. A sample to post is being sought.

Finish Choice Poly or Varnish Body with Satin Neck - all must be same. Or full poly like stock


Named/Numbered on back of headstock via traditional water slide decal

All other Specs such as nut size wiring, pots etc standard stock.

Other Available Options:

Choice of Bridge (Bridge/Stop-tail, Wrap Around,CALLAHAM (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm) or BIGSBY B3 (http://www.bigsby.com/vibe/products/vibratos/b3/)) the last two options would have cost upcharge, the 1st two would not. Not clear yet if this is a choice for us or an all in option. Will seek clarity on this.

Right hand or left hand of course

Well Friends here is a strong starting point with a fair amount of consensus yet to gain. I have preferences but no option in or out is a deal breaker for me.  As far as pricing, deposit amounts turnaround times etc I will await Ted at LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) to communicate with Larrivee and disclose to us either directly or thru me. Suggest we banter this back and forth for the next few days or so before we nail it down. I'm sure there will be some confusion in here somewhere that will require clarification.

I apologize for the delay, it's just happens to be the busy time of year for me at my workplace requiring midyear assessments and reports so have been distracted with that this week.

This ought to keep our juices flowin for a few days  :smile:

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 13, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
Check out this link for a couple of other cool possible options:

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38113.0


:drool:

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Andrew! Here's what I like from your options list:

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 13, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
RS-4  - Forum V  

JCL Special Reserve Grade Flame Maple Top

Lightweight S.A. mahogany back / neck

Indian Rosewood Fretboard

African Ebony Headplate or Matching Headstock overlay. (No upcharge for the African Ebony.)

Vine Headstock Inlay (or JCL) Either works for me!

Mini Humbucker Neck Pickup (signed/numbered) (Make mine both mini's, if possible; we were told the pickups could be different on each guitar - is that still true?) 

Color Forum V - a mix of Amber & Root Beer very "vintage" according to ML - some might call "Ice tea" burst I prefer to refer to it as Forum V color.

Varnish Body with Satin Neck - THIS SOUNDS AWESOME!!!

Named/Numbered on back of headstock via traditional water slide decal

All other Specs such as nut size wiring, pots etc standard stock.

Other Available Options:

Bridge: I'll take the Bigsby - this really ups the desireability for me!!!

Right hand or left hand of course

This ought to keep our juices flowin for a few days  :smile:

The Bigsby and mini-humbuckers are enough to make it unique and different enough from my "standard" RS-4 that I want to be in on this. 

I hope others who are interested find these options workable!

EDIT: I just checked, and Bigsby doesn't make a lefty B3 ... I hope one of the other models will also fit: the B5, B6, and B7 are all offered left-handed.

http://www.wdmusic.com/usa_bigsby_tailpiece_left_handed.html

This all sounds great to me.  I think working a roman numeral "V" into the vine inlay on the headstock would look awesome, but I'm sure cost prohibitive?  Still can't decide on 2 mini's or a mini and a P-90, so could go either way if no choice.  Love all the other specs you lay out, just not sure about the Bigsby yet!  Being a relatively noob I'm happy to go with the flow, as this is shaping up to be a pretty special guitar!

I am very interested in getting this Forum V but I just have a few questions.

Does anyone here have experience with buying from the States and shipping to Canada?
Will there be additional costs, ie: customs, shipping, sales taxes that could add considerably to the price?

I purchased my RS-4 through a local dealer in Winnipeg and had no surprises cost-wise. I've also ordered my Bakersfield through The 12fth Fret in Toronto and was given a price consistent with US stores. They will also do the set-up at no extra charge and Fedex cost is very reasonable.

I'm probably worrying for nothing but I've never dealt with LA Guitar Sales or any other US dealer directly. Any thoughts are most welcome.

Looking forward to seeing what the consensus is for the Forum V.  :smile:

Donuts for all  :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

To the lefties that want the Bigsby I have installed this modal B3 on a couple of LP's and they work real nice.You'd be happy.

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 13, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
RS-4  - Forum V
JCL Special Reserve Grade Flame Maple Top

Lightweight S.A. mahogany back / neck

Indian Rosewood Fretboard

African Ebony Headplate or Matching Headstock overlay available BUT somewhat high upcharge of $250 as fairly labor intensive to get right - again all or no one in for this. No upcharge for the African Ebony

Vine Headstock Inlay (or JCL) but all must be the same)

3/16 Dots on the fretboard instead of normal inlay

Mini Humbucker Neck Pickup (signed/numbered)

P-90 Bridge pickup (signed)

Color Forum V - a mix of Amber & Root Beer very "vintage" according to ML - some might call "Ice tea" burst I prefer to refer to it as Forum V color. No plan for Larrivee to add this color to their stock colors. A sample to post is being sought.

Finish Choice Poly or Varnish Body with Satin Neck - all must be same. Or full poly like stock


Named/Numbered on back of headstock via traditional water slide decal

All other Specs such as nut size wiring, pots etc standard stock.

Other Available Options:

Choice of Bridge (Bridge/Stop-tail, Wrap Around,CALLAHAM (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm) or BIGSBY B3 (http://www.bigsby.com/vibe/products/vibratos/b3/)) the last two options would have cost upcharge, the 1st two would not. Not clear yet if this is a choice for us or an all in option. Will seek clarity on this.

Right hand or left hand of course

Well Friends here is a strong starting point with a fair amount of consensus yet to gain. I have preferences but no option in or out is a deal breaker for me.  As far as pricing, deposit amounts turnaround times etc I will await Ted at LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) to communicate with Larrivee and disclose to us either directly or thru me. Suggest we banter this back and forth for the next few days or so before we nail it down. I'm sure there will be some confusion in here somewhere that will require clarification.

I apologize for the delay, it's just happens to be the busy time of year for me at my workplace requiring midyear assessments and reports so have been distracted with that this week.

This ought to keep our juices flowin for a few days  :smile:

Love it all with exception of the inlays... doesn't seem to fit in my eye but not really a deal crusher.  Why not something like this?  If they're CNC'd the program might be not too much trouble:

(http://www.dreamguitars.com/products/larrivee/larrivee_p-10_br_90262/images/inlay.jpg)

I think it'd match the vine HS inlay nicely.

Is there option for the regular RS4 pups (or if 2 P-90's could they be swapped out - dunno if they're same size)?

Also, what is varnish finish example for those that may want the satin neck?  Or is the satin neck possible with the poly finish?  Kinda confused on that one.

I am all for the selected finish.  A very subtle burst somewhere between a RB and amber is gonna be LEGIT!  In my head, the headstock plate shouldn't match the body since it will be relatively bright given the colour of the body - inlays looks best against darker colours.

I might be interested in a Bigsby too... I'll have to go try one again - it's been awhile and I've been acclimated to the LoPro trems from Ibanez (which are flippin awesome!)

Oh and gold hardware - is that still an option?

Only remaining question is how much time I have to round up ~2500 beans (or whatever the deposit is)!    :smile:   This whole V Forum guitar process is awesome BTW.  Sorry for all the questions - not meaning to be pestering - I'm just excited!

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 13, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
Check out this link for a couple of other cool possible options:

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38113.0
:drool:

That's what I've been saying people (in the previous Forum V thread)!  Contrasting wood inlays and matching binding (if possible) would look great, add to it's uniqueness factor and likely not add cost.  That would get my vote for sure.

Don't agree with PM33AUD (sorry) regarding adding more expensive items like gold hardware, etc.  I won't be in if it gets that expensive.  I like the specs Joyce posted (with comments in my next post) and if I'm not mistaken, I think it has already come down to those anyways, correct Andrew?

Kurt

Here are my comments/preferences based on specs posted by Andrew:

RS-4  - Forum V
JCL Special Reserve Grade Flame Maple Top

Lightweight S.A. mahogany back / neck

Indian Rosewood Fretboard

African Ebony Headplate or Matching Headstock overlay available BUT somewhat high upcharge of $250 as fairly labor intensive to get right - again all or no one in for this. No upcharge for the African Ebony - I suggested the matching overlay, but I want the cheapest option so Ebony is fine with me.

Vine Headstock Inlay (or JCL) but all must be the same)  - Vine gets my vote. Distinquishes the brand.

3/16 Dots on the fretboard instead of normal inlay - Fine with me

Mini Humbucker Neck Pickup (signed/numbered) - YES

P-90 Bridge pickup (signed) - YES

Color Forum V - a mix of Amber & Root Beer very "vintage" according to ML - some might call "Ice tea" burst I prefer to refer to it as Forum V color. No plan for Larrivee to add this color to their stock colors. A sample to post is being sought.  YES

Finish Choice Poly or Varnish Body with Satin Neck - all must be same. Or full poly like stock. - No preference for body finish - whatever is cheapest - YES for Satin Neck finish

Named/Numbered on back of headstock via traditional water slide decal - Fine with me

All other Specs such as nut size wiring, pots etc standard stock. - YES plus nickel hardware like standard
Other Available Options:

Choice of Bridge (Bridge/Stop-tail, Wrap Around,CALLAHAM or BIGSBY B3) the last two options would have cost upcharge, the 1st two would not. Not clear yet if this is a choice for us or an all in option. Will seek clarity on this. - If they must all be the same, then my 1st preference is Bridge/Stop-tail. 2nd preference, Wrap-around assuming it's adjustable for intonation (don't know much about these).

Right hand or left hand of course

Quote from: randmag on October 13, 2011, 09:46:07 PM
I am very interested in getting this Forum V but I just have a few questions.

Does anyone here have experience with buying from the States and shipping to Canada?
Will there be additional costs, ie: customs, shipping, sales taxes that could add considerably to the price?

I purchased my RS-4 through a local dealer in Winnipeg and had no surprises cost-wise. I've also ordered my Bakersfield through The 12fth Fret in Toronto and was given a price consistent with US stores. They will also do the set-up at no extra charge and Fedex cost is very reasonable.

I'm probably worrying for nothing but I've never dealt with LA Guitar Sales or any other US dealer directly. Any thoughts are most welcome.

Looking forward to seeing what the consensus is for the Forum V.  :smile:

Donuts for all  :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

First of all, as I previously said, Ted at LA Guitar Sales is great to deal with. He has spearheaded special editions through Larrivee, Martin, and Rainsong via AGF. You folks who are throwing out various deal-breakers need to know that what Joyce, Ted, and Larrivee come up with will probably be a really nice, unique guitar at the best possible price but it's going to be a compromise. Everybody can't possibly get their wish list guitar at the lowest price. It's like nailing Jello to the wall or herding cats.... 

For our Canadian Members -  Tax and Customs Issues:

Because Larrivee Guitars are made in USA (or Canada) there are NO custom duties to Canadians. There is however Sales Tax the amount depending on the Province shipped to and whether this Province has HST or GST & Prov Tax.

For instance if the Guitar is being shipped to Manitoba who have the GST & Prov Tax - the Tax on the declared value is 5% ( GST portion only).

In Nova Scotia who have the HST the tax is 15%  :mad:

Please do not ask a seller to reduce the declared value - the American Authorities do not shine too favourably on this.

Any more detail on this issue please PM me and I can share with you what I know.

:cheers

This sounds so awesome!  I love the options that have been thrown out.  In cases where consensus is required, my vote will favor lower price in almost every case, otherwise, I am easy going.

jrporter, JOYCEfromNS,

Thank you both for your comments.

I'm absolutely certain the Forum V will be a fine guitar.

Randy  :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

Gold HW I can do w/o but the option would be something I'd do... if it's not optional, not a big deal... that's something I can do myself if I ever wanted.

Are RS4 std pups still an option?

FB inlays are still kinda irking me though.  Dots don't make sense on the RS4 esp with a fancier-than-stock HS inlay.  At least put the blocks on it!

I'm new to the whole forum guitar thing here so maybe I'm looking at it all the wrong way.  I'm looking at it like it's a limited edition 'custom' or 'deluxe' model and am kinda putting price 2nd, (but estimatedly reasonable) whereas many others are putting it first, which is fine.  It just seems weird to me to use a stellar top (which are RARE) and kinda skimp out in other areas.  Go all out!  Do we need the obligatory "no offense" thing anymore :D   The Forum V top and colour are going to be awesome.

I will try to address the majority of questions to date but will stay away from Prices/Deposits & Delivery for now as see that as the role of the the Dealer LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/)

Gold Hardware is an individual choice option cost upgraded to the buyer

Larrivee Generation III Humbuckers are choice item as well as stated previously 3 pickup options here in any combination NO cost difference for any combination

Deluxe Inlay in above posts that gained some life have been previously tried in shop by Larrivee and at first thought to be a good idea kinda looked like shite on the electric. A good in theory but bad in practice idea. Thus accepting ML's judgement on these and suggest not to press further.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 14, 2011, 09:08:18 AM

I'm new to the whole forum guitar thing here so maybe I'm looking at it all the wrong way. 

No wrong way - all ideas, suggestions etc welcomed especially in the initial stages Later we will have to start focusing on elimination.

:thumb

Gold Hardware is an individual choice option cost upgraded to the buyer:  
 AWESOME!

Larrivee Generation III Humbuckers are choice item as well as stated previously 3 pickup options here in any combination NO cost difference for any combination:
 AWESOME!

Deluxe Inlay in above posts that gained some life have been previously tried in shop by Larrivee and at first thought to be a good idea kinda looked like shite on the electric. A good in theory but bad in practice idea. Thus accepting ML's judgement on these and suggest not to press further:
 If ML thinks no vine FB inlays, I'm onboard - better to judge in person than speculate - does this mean the block style is 'meh' too?

Oh and regarding the Bigsby bridges... One issue with the B3 (again, been awhile) is that the break angle is less and folks who play harder (like me) pop strings off the bridge.  The B7 has another bar that creates the greater string angle across bridge and with this:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Bigsby_Vibrato_Tailpieces/Vibramate_V7-LP_Adapter_for_Bigsby_B7.html

... WOULD REQUIRE (theoretically/speculatory) no modification or 'custom' changes to the top over the standard tuneomatic style bridge and stop stock mounting holes.  This adapter plate bolts right up to the stop tailpiece holes.  The only additional holes on the guitar would be the screws near the strap.  It would also allow those who wanted to change bridges out do so.  A little more cost, but whoever wanted a Bigsby would have to pay more anyway and the manufacturer could possibly save labour/tooing costs.  At least with this there is no different drilling or routing on the top (or having to 'leave' out the tailpiece holes with the B3).  Again, I don't have a B7 or this new adapter plate so I can't try it myself... I do know many LP players use this and pop a B7 on there with no mods to the guitar at all.

The other option is just offer the standard bridge and let the user put the Bigsby on themselves - it may be that the adapter plate need be modified or make their own if the stop tailpiece holes are not the same distance to back of the guitar as a LP... ?  Either way, I'm gettin' excited (still kinda 'meh' on dot inlays though TBH)!

:D

I dont intend to derail this conversation, and I believe that this is relevant to the topic at hand, so here goes. 

I am wondering whether it would make sense to combine the new mini-HB with a full-size HB for this guitar.  I don't know much at all about the custom pickups being used, but have heard nothing but accolades for Matt's designs.  I really love the idea of having the mini, but am still looking for a bit of throaty crunch so I figured maybe this configuration would give me the best of both worlds.  Any opinions?

I just noted that I made an error in my "preferences" post above.  I said a preferred the JCL inlay, but I meant to say I preferred the VINE inlay because it identifies the brand better.  I'm good either way, though.  I just ammended my post.

Kurt

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on October 14, 2011, 01:34:32 PM
I just noted that I made an error in my "preferences" post above.  I said a preferred the JCL inlay, but I meant to say I preferred the VINE inlay because it identifies the brand better.  I'm good either way, though.  I just ammended my post.

Kurt

Agreed 100%  The vine rocks!  It's gonna drive all the girls wild!

Quote from: bacchus on October 14, 2011, 01:18:06 PM
I am wondering whether it would make sense to combine the new mini-HB with a full-size HB for this guitar.  I don't know much at all about the custom pickups being used, but have heard nothing but accolades for Matt's designs.  I really love the idea of having the mini, but am still looking for a bit of throaty crunch so I figured maybe this configuration would give me the best of both worlds.  Any opinions?

Me too... I know I love the full size pups so that's what I'm looking at but the only reason for that is I really can't think of any improvements in tone I'd want so why risk getting a pickup that will probably sound different.  Kinda closed-minded on my end but it's not like I can swap the others in due to the size.  Although, the look of two mini HBs will be cool indeed - more of that gorgeous top will be shown.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 14, 2011, 01:38:42 PM
Agreed 100%  The vine rocks!  It's gonna drive all the girls wild!

Oh to be young again.  I'll be happy if it drives my old fart fellow  band members wild!  :nana_guitar

Quote from: bacchus on October 14, 2011, 01:18:06 PM
I dont intend to derail this conversation, and I believe that this is relevant to the topic at hand, so here goes. 

I am wondering whether it would make sense to combine the new mini-HB with a full-size HB for this guitar.  I don't know much at all about the custom pickups being used, but have heard nothing but accolades for Matt's designs.  I really love the idea of having the mini, but am still looking for a bit of throaty crunch so I figured maybe this configuration would give me the best of both worlds.  Any opinions?

Not at all Friend, my problem is deciding between P90 or Full in Bridge and definitely a Mini in Neck. Leaning today towards Full HB in Bridge and Mini in neck. Yesterday it was a P90 in Bridge Mini in neck. Only constant is Mini in Neck. With a Full and Mini together this way seems to me almost doubles your output in middle position compared to two fulls - why is this donno they just seem to get along better. The others seem to work better independently. Have  Norlin Les Paul set up this way. Lots of choices here everyone may have a different preference that's why I am very happy Larrivee is so flexible in PUP choice

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 14, 2011, 02:25:39 PM
Lots of choices here everyone may have a different preference that's why I am very happy Larrivee is so flexible in PUP choice

Amen to this.

As to the fingerboard inlays:
Since Matthew's not too crazy about the acoustic style inlays on the electrics (even though I think it "COULD" look pretty cool, or, at least "pretty"), I'd also vote for incorporating a "V" into the inlay at the 12th fret and keep the standard "block/triangle" inlays.

I do like the vine logo with the Larrivee name in it best - even though it has been used (what? once or twice?) on the RS-4.

Getting closer to full specs, I can feel it...  :nanadance

This is also cool: I love the snakewood used as binding on this guitar (see pic below). Don't mind it on the headstock either, and it's also used for the heelcap on this one; could be used for the heelcap on the Forum V, too. could be an appointment that ties a bunch of stuff together.

Also, what about using the Kluson "vintage style" tuners on this one instead of the Schallers?

Just suggestions, certainly not deal breakers (sorry about the double pic post):

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Nice... yea my RS4 has the Klusons with ivoroid keys and I love em.  I have Gotohs, Schallers, and Grovers on my other guitars and I like these the best.  I think they may be standard on the new ones?

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 14, 2011, 02:25:39 PM
Not at all Friend, my problem is deciding between P90 or Full in Bridge and definitely a Mini in Neck. Leaning today towards Full HB in Bridge and Mini in neck. Yesterday it was a P90 in Bridge Mini in neck. Only constant is Mini in Neck. With a Full and Mini together this way seems to me almost doubles your output in middle position compared to two fulls - why is this donno they just seem to get along better. The others seem to work better independently. Have  Norlin Les Paul set up this way. Lots of choices here everyone may have a different preference that's why I am very happy Larrivee is so flexible in PUP choice

Good to know, I am really looking for some versatility in this bad boy and having the choice of PUP combos, including the tantalizing addition of a brand-new, special signed and numbered mini has my mind spinning a bit.

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 14, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
This is also cool: I love the snakewood used as binding on this guitar (see pic below). Don't mind it on the headstock either, and it's also used for the heelcap on this one; could be used for the heelcap on the Forum V, too. could be an appointment that ties a bunch of stuff together.

Also, what about using the Kluson "vintage style" tuners on this one instead of the Schallers?

Just suggestions, certainly not deal breakers (sorry about the double pic post):

What's going on with the filigree inlay on the headstock on all the curved areas (like along the top edge and down by the E and e tuners?  Looks a little jagged.  Is that just from the photo?

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 14, 2011, 02:54:01 PM


As to the fingerboard inlays:
I'd also vote for incorporating a "V" into the inlay at the 12th fret and keep the standard "block/triangle" inlays.

Yes I think that would be very nice and the more I think about it -  the stock RS 4 inlays are Mother of Pearl & Abalone V Block so what could be more appropriate than that :?  Thoughts :? :?

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 14, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
Yes I think that would be very nice and the more I think about it -  the stock RS 4 inlays are Mother of Pearl & Abalone V Block so what could be more appropriate than that :?  Thoughts :? :?

I love the idea of having a 'V' somewhere, I had envisioned it at the 5th fret, but the 12th would be fine as well.  I could even do that without any other fretboard inlays at all (well, or just the simple ones that were recommended).

Quote from: rockstar_not on October 14, 2011, 05:56:17 PM
What's going on with the filigree inlay on the headstock on all the curved areas (like along the top edge and down by the E and e tuners?  Looks a little jagged.  Is that just from the photo?

It's just the photo.

Anyone know a rough timeline on the Forum guitars and what deposits usually are?  I need to plan this out and see if I have enough time to pull in some loot.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 15, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
Anyone know a rough timeline on the Forum guitars and what deposits usually are?  I need to plan this out and see if I have enough time to pull in some loot.

I just ordered a Bakersfield locally and had to put 20% down ... but each dealer is different, and for a forum guitar, I suspect it might be more ... even up to 50%. Maybe Andrew knows.

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 15, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
I just ordered a Bakersfield locally and had to put 20% down ... but each dealer is different, and for a forum guitar, I suspect it might be more ... even up to 50%. Maybe Andrew knows.

No I felt these details would be decided between LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/) and Larrivee. I believe the Forum IV was $500 down :? Once I know will of course share with you right away. Will try to get some kind of feeling on that this coming week.

As for Timeline will get a better idea once Final Specs and then order #'s are more clear. 2 to 3 months seems what previous Forum Gits were tho

Priority right now ought to be nailing down the Specs

On the Forum V - RS4, how much extra could a flame maple headstock overlay like this, (with the vine inlay in wood instead of abalone/pearl) cost over the regular ebony one?  Can't see why it should cost that much more.  Must be some small pieces of flame maple laying around, maybe enough to do this on a dozen or so guitars, no?  Wouldn't using wood for the logo inlay be cheaper than using pearl, abalone, or silver?  Just wondering.  

Borrowed this pic from Walkerman's post in another thread.

Kurt

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Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on October 16, 2011, 12:47:24 AM
On the Forum V - RS4, how much extra could a flame maple headstock overlay like this, (with the vine inlay in wood instead of abalone/pearl) cost over the regular ebony one?  Can't see why it should cost that much more.  Must be some small pieces of flame maple laying around, maybe enough to do this on a dozen or so guitars, no?  

The veneer itself is somewhat easy to install but the logo will look like crud against it which hours of minute scrapping and sanding. The headplate would be color Forum V ( ice-tea) as well, and most difficult to mask off the pearl logo. Also the silver would look strange if not proplerly done. I guess what I'm saying is it would be very labour intensive to the tune of about $250 per.

Andrew,
in my proposal there would be no pearl, abalone, or silver inlays of any kind on the headstock.  The inlays and headstock border would all be in contrasting (dark) WOOD.  I don't know the process, but wouldn't you just sunburst the headstock overlay maple first, then route out for the inlays afterwards?  I thought it was a given that this was how this process is done.

On second thought, I see your point.  The inlays have to be levelled even with the overlay before the finish is put on.  D'uh.  I guess my idea would only be cost effective if the headstock was not sunbursted but just left natural.

Anyways, it's no big deal.  I'm happy with whatever headstock is chosen.

Kurt

Friends, at the end of the day it doesn't matter which choice we go with to me. As I know we will end up with a special unique guitar made only available to us.

The only thing that I would seriously ask you all to really consider is Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). Unfortunately with this option it's an all in (except the Bigsby opters) and there would be an upcharge likely close to $200,

I don't think there is one factor greater that we are considering that would have a greater positive effect on tone than the Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). The SD 35th Annniversary didn't choose this bridge by accident they chose the best available woods, hardware and builder - just like we want to do :nanadance. Please read up on it and give it some thought.  :smile:

The Callaham seems sweet.  If I go tunomatic, I'll go in on that (they have it in gold?!).  If they dont have gold, and it's nickel plate maybe Larrivee can do all other HW gold and leave the bridge as nickel and I can send it to my plater (I have some other stuff I need plated anyways).

After deposit, how long are we looking here?  Is it a month, 6 month, a year, several years?  I have no idea on the approximate timeline - maybe some previous forum guitar-ers can chime in on how the last batch kinda went.  If it's too soon and ML can pop these things out faster than I'm guessing can be done, then I probably have to step out of this whole deal since I wont have enough $$$.

As far as other features, I don't think I'd change anything other than putting block V inlays on it - with maybe V on the 12th or sth.  We can vote on features maybe and just get it out of the way?  Or just let Matthew Larrivee use his creative judgement and do what he sees fit.  I hope the top is insane like some of the 10-tops I've seen on various guitars.  The figure on my RS4 is pretty sweet as is :D

I think I may go to a music store today to try out a Bigsby or 2 to see if it's something I'd want.  :D

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 16, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
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I don't think there is one factor greater that we are considering that would have a greater positive effect on tone than the Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). The SD 35th Annniversary didn't choose this bridge by accident they chose the best available woods, hardware and builder - just like we want to do ...

Dang, I wasn't paying too much attention to the F-V since I'm still getting used to my "new to me" RS-4, but if this turns out with hi function hardware with select wood and custom color - then it really will be an investment grade instrument even w/o fancy inlays and be a great player to boot !
Good job Andrew !!

OK, just got back from the music store and tried out some Bigsbys...

B3:  This I actually liked more because the trem arm is in easy access and more towards the neck - about 1-2" closer than the B7.  The only issue is that of string angle.  I only tried this on a Gretsch hollow-body and the saddle was SUPER high (I think over an inch) so even w/o the extra bar the B7 has, the string angle was still steep enough for strings not to pop out.  Unfortunately, neither store I went to had a solid-body with a Bigsby so I couldn't get a feel for the string angle - but I will say it's gonna be much less and am still a bit worried about strings popping off the saddle on a solidbody electric.  That being said, I liked this one better still.  It also looks nicer IMO.

B7:  About the same feel as the B3 but because the whole bridge assembly is further back and shorter, the trem arm is kinda too far back and not as easy to access as the B3 making it a little harder to use and def not as natural.  The additional bar of the B7 allows a really steep string angle though.

Tuning seemed just dandy on both and were super smooth.  I like it!

Hi PM33AUD,

Don't want to derail this thread so please see Bigsby string angle at the bridge (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38141.msg346115).

I'm starting a new discussion to talk about Bigbsys - outside the strict context of the Forum V RS-4.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 16, 2011, 04:30:55 PM

B3:  This I actually liked more because the trem arm is in easy access and more towards the neck - about 1-2" closer than the B7.  The only issue is that of string angle.  I only tried this on a Gretsch hollow-body and the saddle was SUPER high (I think over an inch) so even w/o the extra bar the B7 has, the string angle was still steep enough for strings not to pop out.  Unfortunately, neither store I went to had a solid-body with a Bigsby so I couldn't get a feel for the string angle - but I will say it's gonna be much less and am still a bit worried about strings popping off the saddle on a solidbody electric.  That being said, I liked this one better still.  It also looks nicer IMO.

I am also interested in the Bigsby.   Does anyone know what bridge will be used with the B3 option on the Forum V?

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 16, 2011, 10:57:23 AM

The only thing that I would seriously ask you all to really consider is Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). Unfortunately with this option it's an all in (except the Bigsby opters) and there would be an upcharge likely close to $200,

If I didn't go with the Bigsby, I would definitely go with Callaham.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 16, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
The Callaham seems sweet.  If I go tunomatic, I'll go in on that (they have it in gold?!).  If they dont have gold, and it's nickel plate maybe Larrivee can do all other HW gold and leave the bridge as nickel and I can send it to my plater (I have some other stuff I need plated anyways).

I also would like the Callaham in gold, but it would not be a deal breaker.

The Callaham bridge does seem really nice.  I am less inclined towards the bigsby due to both the fact that it is a significant up-charge and just a little visually busy for my taste.  My personal preference would be for the standard bridge, but I am on board with whatever, at least until I get priced out of the discussion.   :tongue:

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 16, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Friends, at the end of the day it doesn't matter which choice we go with to me. As I know we will end up with a special unique guitar made only available to us.

The only thing that I would seriously ask you all to really consider is Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). Unfortunately with this option it's an all in (except the Bigsby opters) and there would be an upcharge likely close to $200,

I don't think there is one factor greater that we are considering that would have a greater positive effect on tone than the Callaham Bridge (http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm). The SD 35th Annniversary didn't choose this bridge by accident they chose the best available woods, hardware and builder - just like we want to do :nanadance. Please read up on it and give it some thought.  :smile:

Andrew, I trust your advice in this and vote for a Callaham ABR-1 bridge and stop tailpiece.  I would want the saddles UNSLOTTED so I can customize the individual string heights to my liking.

I'm definately not in favor of a Bigsby of any kind on the proposed Forum V - RS4, for several reasons.  The string angle for one.  The inherent problems with it returning to pitch.  The added weight.  The added busy look to the guitar.  The added cost.  My feeling is this can be added later by those who want to further customize their RS4s.

And just to reiterate, the final choice of headstock is not a big deal to me.

Kurt

The Bigsby, if offered at all is very likely to be just an option.

Really, I'd just like to see what the Larrivee folks think on the matter of string angle using the B3 on the RS4 and let them decide if it's a robust option for players on this guitar.  But either bridge I'd be happy with.

OK ... Here's my latest two cents worth...

...I'm not interested in adding $200 to the price of the guitar for the Callaham bridge when the stock Tone Pro's bridge and stop tail piece on my current RS-4 seems to work and sound great ... and Larrivee DID choose to use it on this high quality guitars. I'd prefer to let people add a Callaham bridge as a personal aftermarket add-on choice, since it's very easy to do: no new holes to drill, etc.

The Bigsby would definitely be an option for those of us who want one; I was under the impression that the one-piece wrap around bridge was still going to be an option on these for those who want it as well? Andrew? I suspect my playing style will get along with the B3, and I'm all for a more user friendly trem arm, which it sounds like the B3 has.

It's kinda hard for me to go try one, as a lefty player, there probably aren't 2 stores in the whole country that would have TWO left-handed guitars with different Bigsby's on them in stock!!!

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 16, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
OK ... Here's my latest two cents worth...

...I'm not interested in adding $200 to the price of the guitar for the Callaham bridge when the stock Tone Pro's bridge and stop tail piece on my current RS-4 seems to work and sound great ... and Larrivee DID choose to use it on this high quality guitars. I'd prefer to let people add a Callaham bridge as a personal aftermarket add-on choice, since it's very easy to do: no new holes to drill, etc.

The Bigsby would definitely be an option for those of us who want one; I was under the impression that the one-piece wrap around bridge was still going to be an option on these for those who want it as well? Andrew? I suspect my playing style will get along with the B3, and I'm all for a more user friendly trem arm, which it sounds like the B3 has.

It's kinda hard for me to go try one, as a lefty player, there probably aren't 2 stores in the whole country that would have TWO left-handed guitars with different Bigsby's on them in stock!!!

The Callaham does sound like it may be 'forcing' a rather expensive piece of HW (that is easy to install aftermarket) on some folks.  I'd still do it since I could swap it with the one on my RS4 to see if I can tell a difference.  We need a vote for consensus!

Yea the B3 was def a little nicer to play - the arm was in the right spot... The only thing is I wish I could try is one on a LP since the saddles on these aren't 'floating' and want to make sure how I play isn't going to popping the strings out right n left with the B3.

I will simply affirm my preference for the tone pros.  I think that the callaham sounds great, but I would agree with Mikeymac that this could be a nice, and reasonably simple aftermarket addition.  If I were going to bump up the price at all it would probably be to do something that would add uniqueness and something that couldn't be done after the fact.

Quote from: bacchus on October 17, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
I will simply affirm my preference for the tone pros.  I think that the callaham sounds great, but I would agree with Mikeymac that this could be a nice, and reasonably simple aftermarket addition.  If I were going to bump up the price at all it would probably be to do something that would add uniqueness and something that couldn't be done after the fact.

I'm going to sound wishy washy on this, but I had not realized (or forgotten) that the stock bridge was a Tone Pros which is a very high quality bridge to begin with.  So I am going to agree with Mikeymac and bacchus that the current bridge will do just fine and the alleged benefits of the Callaham would not justify the extra cost.

So what are some of the other things that need to be discussed in regards to this guitar?  Finish?  Headstock/inlays?  In general, what kinds of options are we going to have, what would be reaistic and cool to do to this guitar?  Most importantly, what decisions need to be made to move this along?  :cheers

Quote from: bacchus on October 17, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
I will simply affirm my preference for the tone pros.  I think that the callaham sounds great, but I would agree with Mikeymac that this could be a nice, and reasonably simple aftermarket addition.  If I were going to bump up the price at all it would probably be to do something that would add uniqueness and something that couldn't be done after the fact.

I think this Guitar will be unique for sure. A couple quick notes on the Callaham (http://www.callahamguitars.com/index.html#whats_new)  it would not be a subsequent direct drop in tho somewhat painless  retro,  there would also be Zinc involved thus the tone would not likely be optimal as would a custom factory installed Callaham. Further it is available in Gold for those who desire.

Having said all this the Tone Pros is no slouch my any means and I would fully support the majority on this. Just we have an opportunity to optimize here and also add somewhat to the uniqueness of the Guitar tho somewhat covertly.

A little more to consider and think about  :donut

Understand what you're saying about adding the Callaham bridge, Andrew.

I just know that being able to get in on this guitar is going to be a stretch for me as is, so I don't want to put it further out of reach (although adding a Bigsby will be about the equivalent of the Callaham ...  :rolleye: ).

HI, folks, please forgive my getting lost in the thread here.
I own an RS-4 (with the Larrivee pick-ups) and  I am very pleased with it every detail.
I am trying ascertain whether anyone has actually added a bigsby to theirs or not.
and what model?
The B3?

Not terribly familiar with Forums generally, but having my fair share of Larrivee's over the years, (still have 3) and knowing Jean from 40 years ago, well, I might be a tad out of my league here.Any help around bigsby or link pointing will be greatly appreciated.
thanks ever so much.

newbie guy

Quote from: Cybercanyon on October 16, 2011, 06:23:12 PM
I am also interested in the Bigsby.   Does anyone know what bridge will be used with the B3 option on the Forum V?

If I didn't go with the Bigsby, I would definitely go with Callaham.


I also would like the Callaham in gold, but it would not be a deal breaker.

Quote from: headsup on October 19, 2011, 10:26:30 AM
I own an RS-4 (with the Larrivee pick-ups) and  I am very pleased with it every detail.
I am trying ascertain whether anyone has actually added a bigsby to theirs or not.
and what model?
The B3?

Not much help for you in aftermarket but factory installed Larrivee is recommending the B3. Saw a picture  from a trade show in Europe a couple years back with a bunch of electric Larrivees and one was sporting the B3. UnclRob would most likely be best qualified to comment on how invasive a retrofit would be barring nobody here has done it to their RS 4

Bigsby B7 has a "no drill" installation set.....comes in gold or nickle.  That way, if you later changed your mind, you could remove it no harm, no foul.  I am going to put one on my LP.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Bigsby_Vibrato_Tailpieces/Bigsby_B7_Vibrato.html

If they think B3 is good then awesome!  Hey, can ML maybe comment on B3 on the RS4 - in particular the 'string popping off' deal?

Would it be too presumptuous to maybe determine a comfortable price range for this guitar first, and then fit the features that we want into that range?  Is this a reasonable thing to do?  I havent been involved in any of the forum guitar selection processes yet so i am not really sure how this works.  I figure this way we can then prioritize the features that we want while having a specific end goal in mind ( well, besides having a sweet guitar ).  What do you think?

Quote from: bacchus on October 20, 2011, 09:32:35 AM
Would it be too presumptuous to maybe determine a comfortable price range for this guitar first, and then fit the features that we want into that range?  Is this a reasonable thing to do?  I havent been involved in any of the forum guitar selection processes yet so i am not really sure how this works.  I figure this way we can then prioritize the features that we want while having a specific end goal in mind ( well, besides having a sweet guitar ).  What do you think?

This will be a difficult discussion to have here online, as the dealer will set the final price of the guitar - based on MSRP and where he wants to price it to get his profit margin ... so I'm not sure we can actually set that without having the dealer involved in the conversation. We would have to know what percentage above his cost (or below MSRP) he is going to charge, etc.

Having said that, I'm hoping we can keep it pretty close to the prices I've seen online for the standard RS-4, which would "most likely" range between $2,300 and $2,500 or so (this would be before other add-ons, like the Bigsby for those of us who want it)...  :whistling:

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 20, 2011, 10:19:28 AM
This will be a difficult discussion to have here online, as the dealer will set the final price of the guitar - based on MSRP and where he wants to price it to get his profit margin ... so I'm not sure we can actually set that without having the dealer involved in the conversation. We would have to know what percentage above his cost (or below MSRP) he is going to charge, etc.

Having said that, I'm hoping we can keep it pretty close to the prices I've seen online for the standard RS-4, which would "most likely" range between $2,300 and $2,500 or so (this would be before other add-ons, like the Bigsby for those of us who want it)...  :whistling:

Ok, that is fair. 

I figured that this may be the case, I guess I am just being impatient and trying to get this rolling along.  Truth be told, this will be my first real electric guitar, and I am just excited to make this happen.  I suppose I ought to just sit back and enjoy the rodeo.

Quote from: bacchus on October 20, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
Truth be told, this will be my first real electric guitar, and I am just excited to make this happen. I suppose I ought to just sit back and enjoy the rodeo.

The anticipation and waiting makes it all the sweeter! It will be worth the wait, trust me!

Even if this was your 100th real electric, you are still going to be blown away.  This guitar is growing on me more and more (which is a bit creepy, really).

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 20, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
This guitar is growing on me more and more (which is a bit creepy, really).

You probably ought to have that checked out, though there are worse things that could be growing on you.  Ok, done with terrible jokes, I was informed that I have reached my half day limit.

 :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee

Quote from: headsup on October 19, 2011, 10:26:30 AM
HI, folks, please forgive my getting lost in the thread here.
I own an RS-4 (with the Larrivee pick-ups) and  I am very pleased with it every detail.
I am trying ascertain whether anyone has actually added a bigsby to theirs or not.
and what model?
The B3?

Not terribly familiar with Forums generally, but having my fair share of Larrivee's over the years, (still have 3) and knowing Jean from 40 years ago, well, I might be a tad out of my league here.Any help around bigsby or link pointing will be greatly appreciated.
thanks ever so much.

newbie guy

@ headsup:

I, too, am interested in the Bigsby if it's an option but still not 100% on it mainly due to the string angle.

There's another thread here created just for this topic: http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38141.0

Larrivee seems to be going with the B3 for the RS4 which I still think is the better option.  I prefer the feel and simpler, more elegant look of the B3 but the B7 has an additional bar that increases the string angle helping it stay on the saddles better for guitars with shorter saddle heights.  For harder-hitters like myself the solution with a B3 is likely to just grove the saddles deep.  I'm still looking for a LP style guitar with a B3 I can try myself but most I've found all use the B7.

I understand why many of you want the bigsby on this guitar, especially those of you with multiple Larri electrics.  My own issues with them are price, and honestly even more than that, if we are getting this beautiful special reserve top, it seems a shame to distract from it so much.  Those are just my 2 cents.  The callaham is much more appealing simply because only one of those gripes is true, but there is an assumed tonal benefit to their use.  Having said that, I still prefer the standard tonepros, but as I have said, if a consensus is reached, I will be happy either way. 

So, not to distract from the current issue at hand, I am curious about this option:

QuoteFinish Choice Poly or Varnish Body with Satin Neck - all must be same. Or full poly like stock

I understand the satin neck, and am happy with that if that is where this goes.  Now regarding the poly vs. varnish, would the varnish offer any particular advantages, and what kind of markup would we see for that option?

Quote from: bacchus on October 21, 2011, 11:55:28 AM

I understand the satin neck, and am happy with that if that is where this goes.  Now regarding the poly vs. varnish, would the varnish offer any particular advantages, and what kind of markup would we see for that option?

No cost option here. For the record I am in either way, but feel the varnish option with Satin Neck would provide some uniqueness.

More can chime in here but The Varnish vs Poly Debate is somewhat significant in some electric circles. The Varnish certainly would be more traditional in appearance especially as it ages ( checking) and some might argue superior in tone but this is very subjective. The Varnish lets the wood age and breath, leading some to believe improvement in tone with age.

The pro to Poly is of course it's durability in staying ageless in appearance.

Anybody with a Larrivee Mandolin would have some idea of how spectacular a Varnish finish is

:blush:


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Here's a varnish finish with flamed maple an a small burst......

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_0074-1.jpg)


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_0078.jpg)

So is the deal with a satin neck option that the whole guitar has to be satin? (if so, then HECK NO!)

Varnish or Poly I have no preference.  Resin/Shellac-based varnish is closer to lacquer (just not solvent-based) but haven't had a varnish guitar but I am sure they are awesome - Poly is thicker and the poly finish on the RS4 I have NO complaints at all.  I think varnish should be pretty cool too - another thing to kinda set it apart for those already with an RS-4.  But whatever Larrivee thinks is best is fine by me.

@ bacchus:  I think I'm leaning towards the Callaham or Tonepros - you bring up a very good point regarding the 'reserve top' they plan to use.  If anything, I should put the Bigsby on my current RS4 and leave the Forum V's top as unobstructed as possible.  I already own some very nice tremolo guitars anyways.  My vote is with the Callaham in Gold.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 21, 2011, 01:56:37 PM
So is the deal with a satin neck option that the whole guitar has to be satin? (if so, then HECK NO!)

Sorry friends maybe it's the Nova Scotianese causing a little confusion on the finish  :wacko:

Your options here tho we all must have the same thus majority rules:

Full Poly ( like current RS4's)

Varnish Body Poly Neck

Varnish Body  with satan neck

Poly Body  with satan neck

Full Varnish

We are given a lot of options here with Pros and Cons to each. Hope this clarifies somewhat BUT I understand with choices we may sometimes find it hard to make a decision.  :smile:

Yeah, I just dug into the varnish vs. poly debates on some electric forums.  What did I learn?  Well, that there are a whole lot of very opinionated people when it comes to guitar finishes.

I would really like to have Matt or someone in the know weigh in on what they think as far as varnish vs. poly on Larrivee electrics.  Varnish would definitely make for a unique guitar.  Also, FWIW, I think a satin neck could be pretty nice.

Quote from: bacchus on October 21, 2011, 03:33:13 PM


I would really like to have Matt or someone in the know weigh in on what they think as far as varnish vs. poly on Larrivee electrics. 

Not sure there is a definitive answer that you seek on this  :beer

You mean to tell me that the ever-debated complexities which have filled forums and pubs (or, at least, I assume) cannot be definitively answered by one man?  Color me disillusioned. :-D.  I guess the varnish - satin neck option sounds pretty good to me then.

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 21, 2011, 02:36:08 PM
Sorry friends maybe it's the Nova Scotianese causing a little confusion on the finish  :wacko:

Your options here tho we all must have the same thus majority rules:

Full Poly ( like current RS4's)

Varnish Body Poly Neck

Varnish Body  with satan neck

Poly Body  with satan neck

Full Varnish

We are given a lot of options here with Pros and Cons to each. Hope this clarifies somewhat BUT I understand with choices we may sometimes find it hard to make a decision.  :smile:

If you're seeking opinions, I like the satin neck, but less concerned about the body.  I'll vote for a poly body if your pushing for votes.

Matt

My vote is for a satin neck with a poly body.

Me too.  Satin neck with poly body.

I can say that the varnish finish is very delicate.  For an electric, I'd opt for poly.

Tho Varnish may not have the durability of Poly ( nothing does) it is still very suitable for electric guitars as the electrics from the Gibbys from the 50's have proved.

Friends do some reading on the possibility of Varnish for all the Pros I have mentioned above as well as the uniqueness it would bring tho it wouldn't surprise me if Larrivee start offering this option more in the future on RS 4's  :wave

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 21, 2011, 02:36:08 PM
Sorry friends maybe it's the Nova Scotianese causing a little confusion on the finish  :wacko:

Your options here tho we all must have the same thus majority rules:

Full Poly ( like current RS4's)

Varnish Body Poly Neck

Varnish Body  with satan neck

Poly Body  with satan neck

Full Varnish

We are given a lot of options here with Pros and Cons to each. Hope this clarifies somewhat BUT I understand with choices we may sometimes find it hard to make a decision.  :smile:

It doesn't make sense to mix-n-match finishes and I'm sure it probably would be a PIA to do.  I'm voting for:

Gloss poly, satin poly back-of-neck
or
Gloss varnish, satin varnish back-of-neck

I really dont mind so long as it's one of these two.   Love the poly on my RS4 but never had a varnish electric so I got that excitement too.  Varnish would also make it smell different which is another unique factor to consider :D

Are we at a stage where we should round up who's in/out and start doing votes on each of the parametres?

Well, I like the idea of varnish, but poly is perfectly fine with me too.  I honestly haven't ever had experience with varnish on an electric so I would be presumptuous in arguing it's benefits.

QuoteAre we at a stage where we should round up who's in/out and start doing votes on each of the parametres?

I am definitely in, assuming we keep the $$ reasonable.  I think we can do this.

My first choice would be varnish body/satin neck. But if they can do all varnish (body and neck) I'm up for that, too.

Is the wrap around tailpiece an option? I've been rethinking the Bigsby thing based on comments others have made, and it might make more sense to just get an aftermarket one to install on my current RS-4 ... or even get the flat one and install it on my RS-2 ... a much less expensive option.

So ... is the wrap around one piece bridge an option?

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 22, 2011, 09:44:26 AM

Are we at a stage where we should round up who's in/out and start doing votes on each of the parametres?

I was hoping Ted from LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) would have a base starting point for Deposit and ballpark cost as well as turnaround time ( tho from my own experience on this  about 2 months). Once I get this kind of data I will PM everyone on this thread that has shown a remote interest to see if they want to start voting on options.

No sense to me anyway to have someone vote on an option that isn't interested in partaking in the launch

Suggestions to contrary - I am always open to ideas.

I'm very interested, but of course final spec and price will make the decision in the end.

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 22, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
I was hoping Ted from LA Guitars (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/836/) would have a base starting point for Deposit and ballpark cost as well as turnaround time ( tho from my own experience on this  about 2 months). Once I get this kind of data I will PM everyone on this thread that has shown a remote interest to see if they want to start voting on options.

No sense to me anyway to have someone vote on an option that isn't interested in partaking in the launch

Suggestions to contrary - I am always open to ideas.

Hi guys,

Spoke to Corey today and lead time will be between 60 - 90 days depending on when we finalize the specs, and once we have an idea of the specs I willl get some pricing for you as well. A couple of things to keep in mind is that we need at least ten orders to make this happen, which shouldn't be a problem, and all the guitars will be identical.

I will check in here daily but feel free to email or call me the store with any questions.

Ted

Sweet!

A couple more stragglers:

1)  Will there be a sample of the proposed finish?  I'd like to use this to decide if gold hardware will work or not.  And again I just wanna make a point that the burst should be very subtle so that top comes out!

2)  When specs are finalized, how do the 'user-options' get declared for each guitar order?

Quote from: Tarpman on October 24, 2011, 04:42:19 PM
Hi guys,

Spoke to Corey today and lead time will be between 60 - 90 days depending on when we finalize the specs, and once we have an idea of the specs I willl get some pricing for you as well. A couple of things to keep in mind is that we need at least ten orders to make this happen, which shouldn't be a problem, and all the guitars will be identical.

I will check in here daily but feel free to email or call me the store with any questions.

Ted

I appreciate this update, but the boldfaced comment above raises a question: we were told earlier that different pickup options would be allowed...there was also a hint that different bridges "might" be allowed. The bridge issue probably isn't as big a deal as the pickup options, as some folks want mini's in these, while others want full humbuckers or P-90's.

Does anyone have a clear answer on this?  Thanks ... not trying to stir the waters, just get clarification so we all know what we're committing to...

Mikeymac, et al.

That statement has me wondering also.

Kurt

If this is not a misprint and is meant for any option, then it would also be news to JOYCEfromNS since she/he? sort of clarified this in the vote thread, at least from the point of view of what options Larrivee will allow.

Ooh, I wanna add another question :D

3) What is the format of a mini humbucker?  I've been assuming it is like the JB mini or sth that fits in the size of a single coil PU.  Also, has anyone an idea of how it will sound or is this option kinda a Christmas morning sort of surprise?

Quote from: Mikeymac on October 25, 2011, 12:47:01 PM
I appreciate this update, but the boldfaced comment above raises a question: we were told earlier that different pickup options would be allowed...there was also a hint that different bridges "might" be allowed. The bridge issue probably isn't as big a deal as the pickup options, as some folks want mini's in these, while others want full humbuckers or P-90's.

Does anyone have a clear answer on this? 

No change any PUP config you want has been clearly  that way since start. Believe Ted is stressing the options requiring all the same such as color finish inlays, bridge etc. Hence the new topic  :smile:

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 25, 2011, 03:38:46 PM
No change any PUP config you want has been clearly  that way since start. Believe Ted is stressing the options requiring all the same such as color finish inlays, bridge etc. Hence the new topic  :smile:

Correct, pickup options in the Forum V Spec Vote thread (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=38232.0) have been approved as was the Bigsby option.

To keep this thread fresh and to ask a genuine question, i was wondering, would it be possible to have the Larrivee HB's do coil splitting?  I don't really know what is involved in this, so forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, but it would sure be cool to add that kind of versatility.  The reason I bring this up here is that if it is a simple enough modification, maybe it could be part of the forum V.  Any thoughts?

While anything is possible, the Larrivee humbuckers are made like vintage ones, with a hot wire and a ground sleeve around it ... Larrivee would have to change this wiring scheme and go to a four wire set-up for the tapping.

I personally find coil taps superfluous on a HxH guitar with two volumes and two tones...you can already pull a LOT of tones out of the guitar that way...and everything's still humbucking. With standard coil taps, you've introduced single coil noise. You can wire them series/parallel, but again, this seems unnecessary, and with some humbuckers (especially low output, vintage style ones), the single coil sound is anemic and unconvincing.

JMHO ...

Quote from: Mikeymac on November 12, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
While anything is possible, the Larrivee humbuckers are made like vintage ones, with a hot wire and a ground sleeve around it ... Larrivee would have to change this wiring scheme and go to a four wire set-up for the tapping.

I personally find coil tapes superflous on a HxH guitar with two volumes and two tones...you can already pull a LOT of tones out of the guitar that way...and everything's still humbucking. With standard coil taps, you've introduced single coil noise. You can wire them series parallel, but again, this seems unnecessary, and with some humbuckers (especially low output, vintage style ones), the single coil sound is anemic and unconvincing.

JMHO ...

I agree, so yes, lets not go there.  Classic/vintage all the way is what I say.

Ok, I agree, I would prefer the full vintage style HB's to having to change the design just for single coil effect.  Thanks for the knowlege.

Johnny come lately, but could be interested depending on final specs and price. Stilll catching up on all the threads.. :thumbsup

Quote from: LookingForLarri on November 22, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
Johnny come lately, cut could be interested depending on final specs and price. Stilll catching up on all the threads.. :thumbsup

Better Johnny come lately than Johnny come never.  I am definitely excited and would really love to see this get off the ground.

Thanks very much for your useful infomation.

Is this dead ?

I must admit I don't frequent forums as much as I used to but this has my interest.  However I don't see many updates, so I was wondering if this is a going to happen ?

Early donut offering

:donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2

Quote from: LookingForLarri on December 27, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
Is this dead ?

No not Dead at All  Only awaiting final pricing and deposit etc. Once established will post final specs and will pm those who are interested
:smile:

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on December 27, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
No not Dead at All  Only awaiting final pricing and deposit etc. Once established will post final specs and will pm those who are interested
:smile:

Awesome, Thank you for the update.  Looking forward to the final specs and pricing.  Count me in on the PM.   :cheers

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on December 27, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
No not Dead at All  Only awaiting final pricing and deposit etc. Once established will post final specs and will pm those who are interested
:smile:

Spoke to Ted at LA Guitars who said he hopes to have this finalized with Larrivee this coming week

Exciting update, thanks VM for navigating the process.  Patience will surely be rewarded for all who participate! :thumbsup

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on January 14, 2012, 04:25:31 PM
Spoke to Ted at LA Guitars who said he hopes to have this finalized with Larrivee this coming week

This is great news.  I cant wait!  Thanks to everyone working on this.

Is it too late to join this party??? I haven't been on the forum much lately and I loooooove my RS-4. I'd definitely be interested (depending on specs/pricing) if it's not too late...

Quote from: scdreger on January 16, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Is it too late to join this party??? I haven't been on the forum much lately and I loooooove my RS-4. I'd definitely be interested (depending on specs/pricing) if it's not too late...

Nope not at all. Once I get final pricing and deposit details from Dealer I will post Specs and other details and I will PM those who have indicated interest. I certainly want to avoid somebody missing out on this wonderful opportunity just because life got too busy.

I expect pricing details back from LA Guitars (http://laguitarsales.com/pages/907/mfg/10/) sometime this week  :smile:

Please add me to the list. I'm now considering an RS-4 after trading my Les Paul.

Jonesin so hard for this RS4 :drool:,wakin up from dreamin ,droolin
waitin for the unborn beauty to arrive!!!


:donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2 :donut2
:coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee :coffee
coffee time boys....and gals if any!!!

Joyce...not sure if I could pull off the Forum V after my recent Bakersfield but would appreciate the final spec  / pricing info once available.  Rick

I noticed the other Forum V thread was locked, so I thought I'd post here. I was lucky enough to slip in a late order for the F V, and I am so stoked.  :nanadance I went for nickel hardware and two mini humbuckers. I was tempted by the Bixby tremolo, but didn't end up going for it. I'm pretty sure I can add it later if I want. So did anyone else go for two minis? Anyone go for the Bixby?

I also went with the 2 mini's. Like you I was thinking of the Bigsby but decided against it.

congratulations on getting in on the FV. I can't wait to get mine.

Quote from: scdreger on March 28, 2012, 01:00:19 AMAnyone go for the Bixby?

What is this Bixby of which you speak? Is it that hulk of a tremolo?

:humour:

More pic updates on the Facebooks!!!!!


http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.345989445448068.76461.104036859643329&type=1

Quote from: PM33AUD on March 28, 2012, 01:36:36 PM
More pic updates on the Facebooks!!!!!


http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.345989445448068.76461.104036859643329&type=1

Oh man, that seriously made my week.  Looks like this bad boy is coming along beautifully.

Hello Fellow Larrivee Forumites - is anybody else curious how the build(s) are going?  I know I am - in a good way of course!

I am sure they are going to be Mahvelous!

:nanadance :nana_guitar

I was kind of hoping another photo update had been posted on Facebook by now.  Soon, hopefully.

I had a dream last night that mine randomly showed up in the mail.  Needless to say, I woke up a bit depressed this morning.

We'll have some new photos soon (within a week). The mini covers arrived yesterday which was a great surprise which allows me to really move things along.

Quote from: Matthew Larrivee on April 19, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
We'll have some new photos soon (within a week). The mini covers arrived yesterday which was a great surprise which allows me to really move things along.

Thanks Matthew, am so looking forward to the pics on the progress  :guitar

That's what I'm talking about Willis!!!

Thank You everybody!!

:thumb

Sure is quiet around here ... probably cuz most of us don't like to post unless we have something to say (we don't have a "never-ending thread" in here like in the acoustic forum - not yet, at least...  :whistling: ).

But I've got to say something about the oldest sibling among these new Larrivee electrics - the RS-4. I got to play mine for some extended time last night (after being away from home for a week of vacation), and it was pure pleasure...great tone, great feel, great weight - this guitar amazes me everytime I play it! It's such a great quality instrument - a lifetime investment for sure, like my (now 20 year old) OM-05; some guitars are just lifetime companions.

I posted in this thread for those of you who are waiting on the Forum V - just to tell you, if you haven't played or owned one of these yet, you're in for a real treat!  :thumb

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Quote from: Mikeymac on April 24, 2012, 09:17:44 AM
Sure is quiet around here ... probably cuz most of us don't like to post unless we have something to say (we don't have a "never-ending thread" in here like in the acoustic forum - not yet, at least...  :whistling: ).

But I've got to say something about the oldest sibling among these new Larrivee electrics - the RS-4. I got to play mine for some extended time last night (after being away from home for a week of vacation), and it was pure pleasure...great tone, great feel, great weight - this guitar amazes me everytime I play it! It's such a great quality instrument - a lifetime investment for sure, like my (now 20 year old) OM-05; some guitars are just lifetime companions.

I posted in this thread for those of you who are waiting on the Forum V - just to tell you, if you haven't played or owned one of these yet, you're in for a real treat!  :thumb

Thanks for giving us something beautiful to look at!  I, for one, am trying very hard to wait as patiently as possible and just let Matt and crew do their magic.  I figure that there is a lot of experimentation going on to get these mini's how he wants them.  

It has been awfully quiet around here lately, especially considering the incoming FV's and the newly announced Lancasters.

One thing I can say that I do wish for, is that more of the current RS-4 owners would post some videos and sound clips    :laughin: .  Not that I blame people for not taking the time and trouble, I have just been trying to keep myself occupied on the scant few I am able to find on the internet.  Some good stuff, just not much.

"Wake me up when we get there"!!!   :roll

Sorry, just trying to wake up this thread, and this build!   However I do know that 'Matthew and Crew' are busy getting this build perfect for us and I can't wait!!!

:cheers

I know I'm going to regret not getting in on this Forum guitar when I see 'em, but I really couldn't swing it this time...oh well! The good news is I have three Larrivee electrics right now and they're all awesome!

Quote from: bacchus on April 24, 2012, 10:27:09 AM
Thanks for giving us something beautiful to look at!  I, for one, am trying very hard to wait as patiently as possible and just let Matt and crew do their magic.  I figure that there is a lot of experimentation going on to get these mini's how he wants them.  

It has been awfully quiet around here lately, especially considering the incoming FV's and the newly announced Lancasters.

One thing I can say that I do wish for, is that more of the current RS-4 owners would post some videos and sound clips    :laughin: .  Not that I blame people for not taking the time and trouble, I have just been trying to keep myself occupied on the scant few I am able to find on the internet.  Some good stuff, just not much.

I will post some... I've been spending the last few months recording and going through about 10 different mics and getting the right combination for my cab.  I have a nice sound and a youtube channel so I will make some demo vids of the guitar.  You're right, not enough client advertisement going on... these guitars are really awesome.  I keep telling ppl you have to spend another grand or 2 to get the same quality at some other well-known manufacturers.  The pups are the best I've heard... can't wait for the mini!

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on May 01, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
I will post some... I've been spending the last few months recording and going through about 10 different mics and getting the right combination for my cab.  I have a nice sound and a youtube channel so I will make some demo vids of the guitar.  You're right, not enough client advertisement going on... these guitars are really awesome.  I keep telling ppl you have to spend another grand or 2 to get the same quality at some other well-known manufacturers.  The pups are the best I've heard... can't wait for the mini!

Phil

That would be awesome Phil.  I would really love to see more of these things in action.  This would serve the purpose of showing me what they are capable of and, honestly, keeping me occupied until I get one myself.

Maybe this w/e for a demo vid... :D

Anyone have any nitty-gritty downlow dark-alley news on the progress of our highly anticipated Forum V guitars?  How long do y'all think is left?

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on May 04, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
Maybe this w/e for a demo vid... :D

Anyone have any nitty-gritty downlow dark-alley news on the progress of our highly anticipated Forum V guitars?  How long do y'all think is left?

Phil

I am guessing somewhere between not long and really long.

I hope everything is going well here.  I vaguely recall the suggestion of forthcoming pictures.  The 'other' Forum guitar had better not be distracting anyone from this build  :tongue: . 

Quote from: PM33AUD on May 01, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
You're right, not enough client advertisement going on... these guitars are really awesome.

I hereby promise to do my part in helping promote these guitars.  This could include me posting some videos, but more likely, would include having me sign a contract prohibiting me from posting videos of myself playing this guitar.  I don't want to damage the brand by association.

Cameron

Quote from: bacchus on May 07, 2012, 03:59:39 PM
I hope everything is going well here.  I vaguely recall the suggestion of forthcoming pictures.  The 'other' Forum guitar had better not be distracting anyone from this build  :tongue: . 

The Forum VI hasn't officially been ordered yet - there aren't enough orders to start it up yet.

They're now offering another option - no cutaway at a lower price point. I asked someone to PM me what that is, but haven't heard yet. Don't know if I could swing it right now anyway; since I have a Dr. Z Maz18 Jr. head on order...

Quote from: Mikeymac on May 07, 2012, 08:38:22 PM
The Forum VI hasn't officially been ordered yet - there aren't enough orders to start it up yet.

They're now offering another option - no cutaway at a lower price point. I asked someone to PM me what that is, but haven't heard yet. Don't know if I could swing it right now anyway; since I have a Dr. Z Maz18 Jr. head on order...

Yeah I have been following that thread a little bit.  I am trying not to get interested myself.  Alas, I have some serious financial commitments this year so that should temper my gear lust.  However, I REALLY need an amp.  I have heard good things about the Dr. Z's in general.  Should be nice.

Quote from: bacchus on May 08, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Yeah I have been following that thread a little bit.  I am trying not to get interested myself.  Alas, I have some serious financial commitments this year so that should temper my gear lust.  However, I REALLY need an amp.  I have heard good things about the Dr. Z's in general.  Should be nice.

I don't know how much power you need from an amp, but these little tube amps at Guitar Adoptions look interesting (I have no affiliation with Dave or GA):

http://www.guitaradoptions.com/reason-bambino-amp.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j594HxCEyJI&feature=related

Quote from: Mikeymac on May 08, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
I don't know how much power you need from an amp, but these little tube amps at Guitar Adoptions look interesting (I have no affiliation with Dave or GA):

http://www.guitaradoptions.com/reason-bambino-amp.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j594HxCEyJI&feature=related

Interesting, that seems to have a pretty usable range.  I really don't need too much power.  As of now, I am only a bedroom player.  I hope to do some recording, but I don't think that gigging is a high priority when choosing an amp.

My RS-4 and this little thing are sublime together.

http://www.mackamps.com/gem-head-combo/

(http://www.tonepedia.com/sites/default/files/styles/ss_big/public/Gem_2G_dimensions.jpg)

Yeah I noticed that thread.  Those little guys sound (and look) pretty sweet.  I honestly have a lot to learn about amps as I have never seriously done any amp shopping.  I really wish that I had the ability to play a lot of these with RS-4 in hand to see what I could expect out of the various models that have peaked my interest.  I will definitely keep this in mind.

Cameron,

I forget - do you have an amp now?

There are lots of usable, inexpensive amps out there that you can certainly start with, while you do more research. Fender's little Frontman, or a Roland Microcube or one of the larger Cube's, or a Peavey Envoy or Bandit would sound just fine for starting out on. Many of these can be found used, or you can usually find a returned one on Musician's Friend at a discount below their regular discount price.

Local stores get amps traded in all the time; I'm always running across stuff in the local mom 'n' pop shop or the local pawn shops. The thing you have to do at the pawn shop is wave about 1/3 to 1/2 the asking price in cash in their face, and if they won't budge, walk. They are notorious for pricing used stuff higher than MF's new prices! The reality is they gave the person around 5-10% of what they're asking when it was brought in and pawned - so they have plenty of wiggle room; you won't hurt their profit.

If you looking for a sleeper, economical amp, check out the old Crate GX-212 and GX-212+.  They are virtually free and sound very nice.

Phil

Well, I do actually have an ok amp right now.  I have a hand-me-down Laney EA120 - which is a combo acoustic/electric solid state.  So I do have an amp to use, and it is sufficient, but I really want to get a nice little tube amp so that I have a nice amp to match my nice incoming guitar.

Quote from: bacchus on May 09, 2012, 01:45:46 PM
Well, I do actually have an ok amp right now.  I have a hand-me-down Laney EA120 - which is a combo acoustic/electric solid state.  So I do have an amp to use, and it is sufficient, but I really want to get a nice little tube amp so that I have a nice amp to match my nice incoming guitar.

Gotcha ... did you say what your budget is?

Quote from: Mikeymac on May 09, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
Gotcha ... did you say what your budget is?

I am really hoping somewhere in the 1K range.

Quote from: bacchus on May 09, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
I am really hoping somewhere in the 1K range.

That gives you LOTS of nice options - new and used. I'm sure you'll get more suggestions here!

Here's one - the Fender Super Sonic 22 (22 watts, like a Deluxe Reverb, but with a nice gain channel):

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-super-sonic-22-22w-1x12-tube-guitar-combo-amp

Of course, this may be one of the all time best amps for a good foundational clean tone, the Princeton Reverb Reissue - you'll need to get some pedals for dirt:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-65-princeton-reverb-15w-1x10-tube-guitar-combo-amp

Quote from: Mikeymac on May 09, 2012, 09:11:26 PM
That gives you LOTS of nice options - new and used. I'm sure you'll get more suggestions here!

Here's one - the Fender Super Sonic 22 (22 watts, like a Deluxe Reverb, but with a nice gain channel):

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-super-sonic-22-22w-1x12-tube-guitar-combo-amp

Of course, this may be one of the all time best amps for a good foundational clean tone, the Princeton Reverb Reissue - you'll need to get some pedals for dirt:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-65-princeton-reverb-15w-1x10-tube-guitar-combo-amp

Yeah, I have had very little time to play with any amps, but I definitely know that I like the 'fender' cleans, and I keep hearing a lot about the princeton reverb reissue.  At the same time I am starting to dig the Vox (ac 30ish) sound.  I really want a nice clean sound, but also really want a nice girthy distortion.  In the "Amps for an RS-4" thread there were a lot of suggestions given, only a few of which I have been able to demo.  I also have a PODxt which does some amp modeling to get me in the distant vicinity of the sound of many 'classic' style amps.  I have learned a lot from that, but ultimately need to play the real deals when I can.  Also, what sounds good (or bad) on my 200$ LTD Viper (with cheap, hot, humbuckers), may or may not have a similar effect on the RS-4.  I really can't wait to go play a bunch of amps though, seems like a good way to get to know my new guitar.  :bgrin:

I have a Vox module in my mod50 for the clean and crunch... awesome tones!  I've also played a little Vox AC15 2-12 at our rehearsal space a few times... very nice clean and you just turn it up to get some distortion.  Very nice sound.

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on May 04, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
Maybe this w/e for a demo vid... :D

...

Phil

Hey Phil, while we are waiting on the next updates on the F-V, I was wondering, whatever happened to this?   :burin:

Cameron

Quote from: bacchus on June 07, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
Hey Phil, while we are waiting on the next updates on the F-V, I was wondering, whatever happened to this?   :burin:

Cameron

Haha, I'll get one goin... maybe I'll submit it for the RS-2 giveaway too... I have some gold shoes it will match very nicely.  I been goin through some major rig changes the last 2 weeks - trying to get it all sorted out.  Got an AC30 I'm soupin up or at least getting it to the point it wont melt its own face off.  Sold the Mod50 as I found I didn't really need the versatility and ended up sticking with a Vox sound anyway... so figured why not just get the real deal...  AC30s are flippin' A W E S O M E.   I did have to get some ear muffs till the attenuator arrives... it's damn loud.  First night I 'accidentally' killed my hearing cos I got 'sucked' into playing it cranked for a couple hours.  :wacko:

Shoot me a PM if I forget again... I get those in my email.  :smile:

Phil

Larrivee Forum V pics up on the facebooks!  THey painted!

Phil

Matthew, Jean, John Jr, et al. -

Thank you so much for the recent updates to the photos on your company FB page.  They've presented a great chronicle of the progression of the build process, and the fact that we're looking so close is very exciting.  This has truely been a unique process for me to participate in, and the photos of the Forum V (as well as all of the other builds on your page), really show your participation in and commitment to producing high quality instruments in a very hands-on process.  I'm really looking forward to being an owner, especially since it looks like mine is the sole lefty!

Thank you!!!
Matt
:donut :donut2 :coffee :donut2 :donut

Anyone else getting fidgety?  Based on the latest pics (about 2 weeks ago), it looks like these beauties are really close to completion.  When this whole process is over, and I am done thinking constantly about my incoming guitar, I honestly dont know what I will do with myself.  I guess I can just play it.

Also,  :+1: to the above comment.  Let's not forget the efforts put in by Ted at L.A. Guitar Sales and Andrew (JoyceFromNS) for getting this thing together.

I'm making mini humbuckers today, so yes they are getting very close. We are also waiting on a package from an injection molder with the mini humbucker rings (the surrounds).

Matthew

Quote from: Matthew Larrivee on July 11, 2012, 12:49:48 PM
I'm making mini humbuckers today, so yes they are getting very close. We are also waiting on a package from an injection molder with the mini humbucker rings (the surrounds).

Matthew

Wow, I totally missed this reply for some reason, never showed up as new on my feed.  That is awesome news!  Thanks for the update Matt.

The first five have just landed...  :smile:

(http://www.laguitarsales.com/tools/local/imageupload/content/Short4/size2/63474e4f4545a3a4dfbbb94d76d77d19.jpg)

..and here's #1

http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/4717/Larrivee_Forum_V.htm

(http://www.laguitarsales.com/tools/local/imageupload/content/MainImage/size2/dca24000459a4c2d09de3251eeff74c9.jpg)

BTW, in all the excitement I totally forgot to get in on one of these.

No Freaking Way!?!?!?!  My heart is palpitating with joy (and probably a hearty dose of caffeine).

:bowdown:

That looks absolutely stunning and those mini's look amazing!

 :nana_guitar

Great news. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

:nanadance :nanadance :nanadance :nanadance :nanadance

Mine is one of the first five, I guess.  I just recieved notice it will be shipped to me tomorrow and I submitted the balance owing a few minutes ago.

Yippee!   :guitar

I just read the notice from L.A. Guitar Co. in my inbox. WooooooooooooooHooooooooooooo!  :nana_guitar I'd pick it up in person tomorrow, but it's my twin daughters' birthday. Might as well have it shipped.

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on July 30, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Mine is one of the first five, I guess.  I just recieved notice it will be shipped to me tomorrow and I submitted the balance owing a few minutes ago.

Yippee!   :guitar

Ditto!!!!   Oh Happy Days, Let the Fun Begin!

Thanks to Andrew and Ted for their involvement in making this happen!

:cheers

Thanks to Andrew and Ted for their involvement in making this happen!

  :+1:

Quote from: Frasier1 on July 30, 2012, 08:55:16 PM

Ditto!!!!   Oh Happy Days, Let the Fun Begin!

Thanks to Andrew and Ted for their involvement in making this happen!

:cheers

Shame on me for not also thanking Larrivee (Matt & Jean) for bringing to us such a unique (Boutique) guitar with all the special upgrades.

Thank You Larrivee Guitar Company and all it's employees!

 :+1:

Quote from: Frasier1 on July 31, 2012, 06:37:51 PM

Shame on me for not also thanking Larrivee (Matt & Jean) for bringing to us such a unique (Boutique) guitar with all the special upgrades.

Thank You Larrivee Guitar Company and all it's employees!

:+1: Absolutely right!  This has been a special experience, and I am glad to be a part of it. 

For those of you lucky dogs that made the first 5 list, make sure to let the rest of us know what you think when you get them.  In the meantime, I will just keep that beautiful image Ted posted open in my browser to either keep me sated or make me crazy, either way.

Here's a few more pictures.

(http://www.laguitarsales.com/tools/local/imageupload/content/Short2/size2/2c0a9f456f4346d7b22250f9a77a25cc.jpg)

(http://www.laguitarsales.com/tools/local/imageupload/content/Short3/size2/b15cbfec106a8b1f7dec5524667896d5.jpg)

I have to say that I just absolutely love the neck pickup we came up with. The first time I heard it was from across the shop and I said to myself "WOW that sounds great!" and ran over to final assembly to get a closer look. It might be my favorite pickup to date.

I gotta say that is one cool guitar.  If I didn't already have 2 RS-4's, I would have gotten one.  There are 10 very lucky guitar players out there.

Quote from: Matthew Larrivee on August 01, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
I have to say that I just absolutely love the neck pickup we came up with. The first time I heard it was from across the shop and I said to myself "WOW that sounds great!" and ran over to final assembly to get a closer look. It might be my favorite pickup to date.

First of all, this is just an absolutely gorgeous and classy looking guitar.  Based on these pictures, it has definitely exceeded my expectations.  Bravo to you and your team.

I really cant wait to get a listen to these pickups.  Even more so with your statement above.  Out of curiosity, what "flavor" of mini did you end up (PAF style, firebird, etc...)?

One last thing, I am kind of curious as to what pickup configurations everyone got here.  I ended up going with the mini in the neck and a full in the bridge.  Chime in if you guys have the time.

I also went for the mini in the neck and full size for the bridge.  I also opted for a bigsby. 

I can't wait to receive mine.   :nanadance

I went with both mini's. I have an RS-4 with humbuckers already and just love that guitar. The pictures of the ForumV are incredible. Can't wait to try out those mini's.

:donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

Quote from: Matthew Larrivee on August 01, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
I have to say that I just absolutely love the neck pickup we came up with. The first time I heard it was from across the shop and I said to myself "WOW that sounds great!" and ran over to final assembly to get a closer look. It might be my favorite pickup to date.

Great ... now I really want to order one of these mini's to try in my Bakersfield's neck position.  :bowdown:

Quote from: bacchus on August 01, 2012, 11:17:11 AM

One last thing, I am kind of curious as to what pickup configurations everyone got here.  I ended up going with the mini in the neck and a full in the bridge.  Chime in if you guys have the time.

I also went with a Mini and Full - although that was merely due to what seemed to be the popular choice at the time of ordering!!  I am new to Electrics but couldn't think of a better one to start with.

Mini & full for me as well.  I'm patiently waiting for my e-mail to come from LA Guitars, so in the meantime I'm really looking forward to the first player reviews!

I was looking at the pics of these on FB last night and I think the Full size/mini combo is going to be really cool. You guys are lucky you get to own such cool guitars  :bowdown:

Suprised to see so many mini/full combos, that is awesome!  As far as I can tell, that is not a very usual combination; at least not on any guitars that I have seen.

I agree that these are going to be very special guitars.  I feel lucky to have my first real electric be something of this caliber.

I went with 2 P90s.  Did anyone else get P90's in theirs?  I gave this a lot of thought before choosing and am still second guessing myself especially now reading the last few posts.  I guess I'll soon know if I made a good choice.  It will be cool if I end up owning the only Forum V with P90s in any case.

Matt, any personal comments on how the P90s sound in the guitar?  Honest opinions appreciated.

Kurt in Edmonton

If the P90's in the Forum 5 are the same ones that were done by Matthew and are in my RS-2 you will love them.

Very reassuring, Johnny.  Thanks for that.  I do love the P90s in my Gretch Pro Jet.

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 03, 2012, 12:03:44 AM
I went with 2 P90s.  Did anyone else get P90's in theirs?  I gave this a lot of thought before choosing and am still second guessing myself especially now reading the last few posts.  I guess I'll soon know if I made a good choice.  It will be cool if I end up owning the only Forum V with P90s in any case.

Matt, any personal comments on how the P90s sound in the guitar?  Honest opinions appreciated.

Kurt in Edmonton

I really don't think you have anything to worry about.  If you love P90's but got the HB's against your own intuition, then you might have had something to worry about.  I think these will be pretty awesome regardless.

Oh My Gosh!!!!   #8 has landed in Anchorage, Alaska and so far all I have done is Drool all over it!!!  What a beautiful piece of work!  Impeccable! 
Unfortunately the sound check will have to wait until early tomorrow morning due to this thing called Work!  :(

Thank You again to all involved!!

:thumbsup

Without pictures, deliveries have not happened!! :guitar :cop:

Quote from: johnny37 on August 04, 2012, 06:08:10 PM
Without pictures, deliveries have not happened!! :guitar :cop:

Fair enough!  I had to compress these to get them to load, so obviously they could be much better.

:cheers

Ahh, freaking beautiful man!  I am both thrilled to see these and also a little heartbroken to not have been in the first 5.  Let us know how she sounds when you can.

B E A U T I F U L !    :drool:

I can't wait to see the rest as they come in.

:nice guitar:

I love the finish on these, and the headstock inlay!

I'd like them better with cream pickup bezel's and switch tips, I think. JMHO...and it's an easy switch for those who want to do it.

:nice guitar:

So I just received my Forum V with 2 mini's. What an incredibly beautiful looking and sounding guitar. I won't post any pics because you can see that on page 9 under Tarpman's post. That's right, I have #1 of 10. I just played it for about 20 minutes and ran through several settings. Both mini's sounded great in all settings. It's a different sound from the full HB's for sure. I'll need more time to write a more in-depth review though. One thing I noticed immediately was that this guitar weighs noticeably less than my RS-4 Goldtop. The iced-tea burst is done very well. I thought about Mikeymac's suggestion of the cream pickup bezels but this guitar looks great with the black covers too. Maybe something I'll think of doing down the road.

Back to playing now. More to follow.

Quote from: Mikeymac on August 06, 2012, 10:06:51 AM
I love the finish on these, and the headstock inlay!

I'd like them better with cream pickup bezel's and switch tips, I think. JMHO...and it's an easy switch for those who want to do it.

:nice guitar:

I actually like the black ones myself, they match the headstock well.  Plus, I just like black.

I was just about to ask about whether people had received theirs, but as I was typing this, I got a notification that randmag had made a post.  
Thanks for sharing man, I look forward to some reviews and I cant wait to get an email myself...

Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.  I don't get home from my part-time job till 6:30 PM.  Hopefully it will be waiting for me when I get home.  It's been a long wait.  Full report to follow.

Kurt

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 07, 2012, 11:54:14 PM
Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.  I don't get home from my part-time job till 6:30 PM.  Hopefully it will be waiting for me when I get home.  It's been a long wait.  Full report to follow.

Kurt

I hope it is awaiting you as you are in for a real treat!  I see these making GOTM at some point!!

:beer

Just curious...who got #1........

Quote from: Walkerman on August 08, 2012, 11:07:36 AM
Just curious...who got #1........

Quote from: randmag on August 07, 2012, 05:17:39 PM
That's right, I have #1 of 10. I just played it for about 20 minutes and ran through several settings. Both mini's sounded great in all settings.

Back to playing now. More to follow.

Number 4 has arrived this afternoon while I was at work.  Here are some quick and dirty pics and a first impression review.

It is a beautiful looking guitar and plays great right out of the box.  I assume setup was done by LA Guitars?  The neck feels very natural in my hands as does the string spacing, so I was able to just start playing it and all was good.  I am really impressed with the balance from string to string.  The other thing that impressed me was how it responds to picking strength and how dynamic and responsive it is.

I played it for about an hour thru my Superchamp XD into my 1 X 12 JBL-equipped cabinet.  I can truly say the sounds that came out are the best I've heard from that amp since I got it.  The tones out of the P90s are outstanding.  The three switch positions provide just the variety in tone you would expect from a great guitar configured like this one.  It just barks on the bridge pickup and the neck pup has such a sweet mellow, bassy tone.  Any fears I had of these pups not being "fat" enough when turning up the gain, are now gone.  I haven't begun to explore the possibilties, but so far, I am already in love with this guitar.

I'm only what I would consider and intermediate player.  This guitar makes me sound like a better player already, and I foresee how it will inspire me to improve since I think I'll be playing it a lot.

I should mention, it is very comfortable to hold and balances well with the strap.  It isn't too heavy either.

Just my first impressions and looking forward to comments from the rest of you.

Kurt in Edmonton.

Wow!  Number 4 is another winner.   :thumb

Its killing me having to wait.   :whistling:

Quote from: Cybercanyon on August 09, 2012, 04:25:29 AM
Wow!  Number 4 is another winner.   :thumb

Its killing me having to wait.   :whistling:

Me too!  I know it'll be worth it though. 

Beautiful guitar Kurt, and thanks for the nice writeup.  It is good to see these reviews start to roll in, keep em coming.

Well, I got me email yesterday and I should have Forum V on Tuesday.  That was the best news I have heard in a while.

Im curious, Frasier1 (or anyone who has gotten the mini's), how are you liking the mini's or the mini/full combos?  I am curious to hear what people are thinking.

Glad for you Cameron.  I haven't had a chance to play mine since the first night due to other committments.  I'm off work for the next three days so it will get a good workout tomorrow.  :nana_guitar

I have one issue though.  I'm wondering what kind of "case candy" usually comes with a new Larrivee.  Mine did not include any paper or documents at all other than the bill of sale from LA Guitars.  No users guide or anything like that.  I didn't get any warranty registration card or warranty documentation of any kind which is the only missing piece I'm concerned about.   Is this the case for the rest of you who received their guitars?  I guess I will have to contact LA Guitars about this since I want to ensure I'm registered as the original owner.

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 11, 2012, 12:13:53 AM
Glad for you Cameron.  I haven't had a chance to play mine since the first night due to other committments.  I'm off work for the next three days so it will get a good workout tomorrow.  :nana_guitar

I have one issue though.  I'm wondering what kind of "case candy" usually comes with a new Larrivee.  Mine did not include any paper or documents at all other than the bill of sale from LA Guitars.  No users guide or anything like that.  I didn't get any warranty registration card or warranty documentation of any kind which is the only missing piece I'm concerned about.   Is this the case for the rest of you who received their guitars?  I guess I will have to contact LA Guitars about this since I want to ensure I'm registered as the original owner.

I have seen some other threads where people were receiving balersfields without 'case candy' specifically warranty cards.  I don't know the specifics, but I believe that it was determined to be the norm now and that it wasn't an issue with warranty.  I'm sure someone else can chime in with the details.

I emailed LA Guitars about the warranty issue.  No reply yet.

I finally got to play my new Forum V tonite for a couple of hours.  What a great guitar.  It is very articulate you might say, so any sloppy technique in my playing showed through.  That is a good thing, not a liability.  I "demoed" it for my wife.  She was  absolutely impressed.  I just got a new Fender Superchamp X2 head to go with my new guitar.  I plug it into the 1X12 cab equipped with a JBL G125-8 that I built a while ago and it is a superb combination.

Cameron, I know you have been looking for a great amp to go with your Forum V.  If you get a chance, try a Superchamp XD combo (now out of production), or it's replacement, the Superchamp X2 combo or head.  The combo has a 10" speaker in it and it sounds great.  The head with it's matching cab, SC112 is even better.

Wow those all look amazing! Congrats to everyone who got one of these beauties.

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 12, 2012, 02:23:37 AM
I emailed LA Guitars about the warranty issue.  No reply yet.

I finally got to play my new Forum V tonite for a couple of hours.  What a great guitar.  It is very articulate you might say, so any sloppy technique in my playing showed through.  That is a good thing, not a liability.  I "demoed" it for my wife.  She was  absolutely impressed.  I just got a new Fender Superchamp X2 head to go with my new guitar.  I plug it into the 1X12 cab equipped with a JBL G125-8 that I built a while ago and it is a superb combination.

Cameron, I know you have been looking for a great amp to go with your Forum V.  If you get a chance, try a Superchamp XD combo (now out of production), or it's replacement, the Superchamp X2 combo or head.  The combo has a 10" speaker in it and it sounds great.  The head with it's matching cab, SC112 is even better.

I cant wait for mine, it should be here tomorrow!

As far as amps go, I actually ended up finding a good deal on a used Morgan DAG 15, which is just a superb amp.  I updated the 'Amps' thread with some info and pics.  I will need to check out the superchamp though.  There very well may come a day when I need some fender representation in my flock here.

#2 Arrived today, and it's a very beautiful guitar.  It's going to take a while to get used to, especially coming from the single volume/tone controls of a tele, but I look forward to playing it loud and often!

Thanks again to everyone who had a hand in getting the build off the ground.  It's really been a pleasure to participate and monitor the progress over the past few months, and to get to know indirectly so many really great people on the forum. :beer

Best,
Matt

PS: Apologies for the crap pics, but the lighting in my old house is bad and I'm too lazy to play with the low light setting on my camera!  I'll post pics in better lighting soon.

OK, enough is enough!  You guys are driving me crazy with all these new guitars.   :wacko:
I can't wait for mine to be ready.

Nice guitar by the way.  So far I like the way the finish looks on the Forum V's.

:nice guitar:

Quote from: Cybercanyon on August 14, 2012, 04:35:04 AM
OK, enough is enough!  You guys are driving me crazy with all these new guitars.   :wacko:
I can't wait for mine to be ready.

Nice guitar by the way.  So far I like the way the finish looks on the Forum V's.

:nice guitar:

I hate to say it, but there is going to be one more giddy NGD this evening.  You can endure!  :crying:

Quote from: bacchus on August 02, 2012, 05:18:18 PM
Suprised to see so many mini/full combos, that is awesome!  As far as I can tell, that is not a very usual combination; at least not on any guitars that I have seen.

I agree that these are going to be very special guitars.  I feel lucky to have my first real electric be something of this caliber.

Just seeing all of this now!  Adding a 2nd PT job has been keeping me pretty busy :/

These look awesome.

RE: the mini/full combo: the more I use my current RS-4, the more I'm finding the bridge much brighter than the neck (sure, a lot of it is due to placement) and I'm rolling off the bridge tone quite a bit to match.  I also use the neck mostly for clean and the bridge for distorted and a mini in both spots may not give me the gain I need to push the vox to insano land..  These 2 reasons are why I think the full bridge and mini neck will be the perfect combo.  If I like it maybe I can hide a mini under a full size cover and have neck minis in both.

I still need to make a damn demo video.   :laughin:  Well, I guess now I'll be able to do a demo/comparison video shortly!

I got #3 last night.  Man this thing is sweet!  I love everything about it.  This thing looks great, feels great, and man o' man does this thing sound great. 

There are so many usable tones in every position.  And the mini - this thing is so cool!  It does exactly what I hoped it would.  You get that nice, thick, smooth neck tone, all without any of the associated muddiness of a hot hum in the neck position.  The neck doesn't seem to overdrive very easily, but I am more than OK with that because it sounds fantastic clean to crunchy.  The bridge full-HB is no slouch either, obviously.  It just screams rock, this thing sings like a rugged gentleman.  The guitar itself is just so balanced and resonant, it is hard to get it to sound bad.

Long story short, I am very happy!  I am obviously still firmly in honeymoon phase, but all signs point to this guitar being a lifer.  Thanks to everyone at Larrivee for doing such a great job on these.  A very special thanks to the facilitators of this process: Matt, Ted, and Andrew.

Anyway, sorry to babble, here are some more pics.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8422/7788191216_4f54b1b219_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8302/7788193292_e4d656ee0d_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8293/7788194392_b1682453bc_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8290/7788194746_d0d0a2ed8d_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8297/7788195684_f2fb1cd563_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/7788197186_db4d67de52_z.jpg)

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 14, 2012, 10:37:02 AM
Just seeing all of this now!  Adding a 2nd PT job has been keeping me pretty busy :/

These look awesome.

RE: the mini/full combo: the more I use my current RS-4, the more I'm finding the bridge much brighter than the neck (sure, a lot of it is due to placement) and I'm rolling off the bridge tone quite a bit to match.  I also use the neck mostly for clean and the bridge for distorted and a mini in both spots may not give me the gain I need to push the vox to insano land..  These 2 reasons are why I think the full bridge and mini neck will be the perfect combo.  If I like it maybe I can hide a mini under a full size cover and have neck minis in both.

I still need to make a damn demo video.   :laughin:  Well, I guess now I'll be able to do a demo/comparison video shortly!

Good to see you back, you should post a demo  :tongue:.  I have made a goal that i will post one myself very soon, at least when i am able get a decent recording.

bacchus,

Definitely!

That guitar looks amazing.  The top on #3 has a subtle touch of quilt to it.  I cannot wait.  The way you describe the neck is exactly what I'm looking for so now I'm even more excited!  I find with heavier stuffs, you gots to use the bridge as the neck gets muddy in the mix but clean bridge sounds a bit honky like a bridge HB does.  I plan to use the neck for sparkly and lightly overdriven 'warm' cleans.

On another note, I just got finished modding the AC30 - added dual ch. powerscaling, MIDI control for trem and powerscaling ch. selection, choke replacement/PSU 'fixing', and other circuit mods.  It's flipping sweet and can't wait to get it into actual service and try it out with the mini.

Personally, I really dig the black pup bezels - didn't think of that one!  The colour looks absolutely awesome.  Nice n vintagey and def different enough than my rootbeer which I was hopin for!

Quick question: is the entire neck satin or just the back of the neck?  I can't tell from any of the pics if the headstock face is gloss !?

Cant wait!!!

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 15, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
bacchus,

Definitely!

That guitar looks amazing.  The top on #3 has a subtle touch of quilt to it.  I cannot wait.  The way you describe the neck is exactly what I'm looking for so now I'm even more excited!  I find with heavier stuffs, you gots to use the bridge as the neck gets muddy in the mix but clean bridge sounds a bit honky like a bridge HB does.  I plan to use the neck for sparkly and lightly overdriven 'warm' cleans.

On another note, I just got finished modding the AC30 - added dual ch. powerscaling, MIDI control for trem and powerscaling ch. selection, choke replacement/PSU 'fixing', and other circuit mods.  It's flipping sweet and can't wait to get it into actual service and try it out with the mini.

Personally, I really dig the black pup bezels - didn't think of that one!  The colour looks absolutely awesome.  Nice n vintagey and def different enough than my rootbeer which I was hopin for!

Quick question: is the entire neck satin or just the back of the neck?  I can't tell from any of the pics if the headstock face is gloss !?

Cant wait!!!

That AC30 sounds nice.  I think you will need some comparison before and after clips.

Regarding your question, the neck itself is satin (and very nice to the touch, smooth as silk) and the headstock veneer is gloss. 

A couple of other things that I neglected to mention earlier, some things that surprised me:

- I really like the case, it is very classy.
- The inlays are fantastic, more than expected actually.  They are very well executed and extremely colorful.
- The weight of this thing is perfect.  Just heavy enough to feel nice and sturdy, but light on the shoulders.

I wish I wasn't at work today....

Quote from: bacchus on August 15, 2012, 10:40:22 AM

- The weight of this thing is perfect.  Just heavy enough to feel nice and sturdy, but light on the shoulders.

Anybody get a chance to weigh one, as Matthew had said he had a special reserve of light mahogany just for these guitars :?

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on August 15, 2012, 10:44:57 AM
Anybody get a chance to weigh one, as Matthew had said he had a special reserve of light mahogany just for these guitars :?

Even my standard RS-4 is not that heavy on the shoulder because of the body's design and thickness. Yet, as mentioned above, it still feels like a very solid, substantial guitar - and when you play it you notice it's great resonance from body to neck and back.

The RS-4 is just a great design all around.

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on August 15, 2012, 10:44:57 AM
Anybody get a chance to weigh one, as Matthew had said he had a special reserve of light mahogany just for these guitars :?

I weighed my RS-4 Goldtop at 8.55 lbs.

The RS-4 Forum V weighs 7.5 lbs

The difference in weight is something I noticed immediately. I've been playing the FV for about a week now and the honeymoon is definitely NOT over. The mini pickups are just incredible. I love all the tones I'm getting from this guitar but obviously it sounds best when it's pushing my amp (Swart AST). Like some here I would consider myself intermediate at best but I plan on doing some sound comparisons between the Goldtop and FV. It won't be anything fancy but I try and capture several different configs for you guys to hear. I'll try and do that this weekend and post next week.

Wow,

That's pretty significant weight savings!  I though my RS4 was already extremely light and comfortable.  This one would approach my Ibanezes!

I think it's really great they did gloss on the veneer.  More work but I was a bit curious if they'd be willing to take the extra step.  I should have known better!

Phil

Quote from: randmag on August 15, 2012, 01:16:56 PM
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Like some here I would consider myself intermediate at best but I plan on doing some sound comparisons between the Goldtop and FV. It won't be anything fancy but I try and capture several different configs for you guys to hear. I'll try and do that this weekend and post next week.

That would be awesome.  We need to get more clips of these things in action, they definitely deserve it. 

Quote from: bacchus on August 15, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
I got #3 last night.  Man this thing is sweet!  I love everything about it.  This thing looks great, feels great, and man o' man does this thing sound great. 

There are so many usable tones in every position.  And the mini - this thing is so cool!  It does exactly what I hoped it would.  You get that nice, thick, smooth neck tone, all without any of the associated muddiness of a hot hum in the neck position.  The neck doesn't seem to overdrive very easily, but I am more than OK with that because it sounds fantastic clean to crunchy.  The bridge full-HB is no slouch either, obviously.  It just screams rock, this thing sings like a rugged gentleman.  The guitar itself is just so balanced and resonant, it is hard to get it to sound bad.

Long story short, I am very happy!  I am obviously still firmly in honeymoon phase, but all signs point to this guitar being a lifer.  Thanks to everyone at Larrivee for doing such a great job on these.  A very special thanks to the facilitators of this process: Matt, Ted, and Andrew.

Anyway, sorry to babble, here are some more pics.



(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8302/7788193292_e4d656ee0d_z.jpg)

The guitar is a thing of beauty, fabulous color.

One question, why does it look like the wound strings are not set in the middle of the saddles?  I know less than nothing about electric guitars, that's why I'm asking.

I think that this is just an artifact of camera perspective.  I'll check tonight.

Quote from: randmag on August 15, 2012, 01:16:56 PM
I weighed my RS-4 Goldtop at 8.55 lbs.

The RS-4 Forum V weighs 7.5 lbs

The difference in weight is something I noticed immediately. .................................

Boy, I just weighed mine and it's WAY heavier than both of yours, Randy.  It's almost 17 lbs.!  Oh wait a minute, let me take it out of the case.  :blush:

Seriously though, mine comes in at right around 8 lbs.  However, I could be out half a pound either way as I don't have any real accurate scales here.  On the fishing scale in my tackle box, I get around 8.5 and on my bathroom scale, about 8 lbs. (both by weighing it alone, and deducting it from my weight while holding it).

Also, I hate to harp on this, but what kind of documentation, if any, did the rest of you get with your guitar?  Wondering about warranty registration.  Still no response from L.A. Guitars on this.

Kurt

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 15, 2012, 10:35:01 PM
Also, I hate to harp on this, but what kind of documentation, if any, did the rest of you get with your guitar?  Wondering about warranty registration.  Still no response from L.A. Guitars on this.

None to speak of for me either.

Quote from: Mr_LV19E on August 15, 2012, 04:36:14 PM
The guitar is a thing of beauty, fabulous color.

One question, why does it look like the wound strings are not set in the middle of the saddles?  I know less than nothing about electric guitars, that's why I'm asking.

Welp, I got home and noticed that you were right,  the wound strings were not in the saddle slots... oops.  I slipped them in there this evening and all is well...  I don't know how I missed that earlier.  I must have been blinded by the elation of a new guitar.  :?

Quote from: bacchus on August 16, 2012, 12:18:08 AM


  I must have been blinded by the elation of a new guitar.  :?

Not surprising, I'd have a hard time taking my eyes off it long enough to play it.  Glad it was something easily fixed.

Greetings all.  :donut   Number 7 of 10 checking in !  I received my Larrivee RS-4 Forum V yesterday.  I only had a chance to play around with it briefly but long enough to form an initial impression. 

I am delighted with it!  Fit and finish are flawless.  Set up is perfect.  The maple top is very aesthetic and tasteful.  Love the headstock inlay.  I will get pics up later, but it looks much like the others actually.  :smile:

I got the mini/mini.  The pick-ups are very clear and articulate with good note separation, and they seem nicely touch sensitive.  I look forward to "dialing it in" through my Swart STR-Tweed 5W amp and various OD and delay pedals.  This guitar is perfect complement to my all mahogany RS4 with the gen3 humbuckers.

It is always leap of faith to buy a custom model, but this exceeded all of my expectations.  Thanks to Matt and the team at Larrivee and LA Guitar. 

Quote from: jojo123 on August 21, 2012, 12:32:04 PM
I am delighted with it!  Fit and finish are flawless.  Set up is perfect.  The maple top is very aesthetic and tasteful.  Love the headstock inlay.  I will get pics up later, but it looks much like the others actually.  :smile:

I got the mini/mini.  The pick-ups are very clear and articulate with good note separation, and they seem nicely touch sensitive.  I look forward to "dialing it in" through my Swart STR-Tweed 5W amp and various OD and delay pedals.  This guitar is perfect complement to my all mahogany RS4 with the gen3 humbuckers.

It is always leap of faith to buy a custom model, but this exceeded all of my expectations.  Thanks to Matt and the team at Larrivee and LA Guitar. 

Aren't these just awesome?  We still want pics  :laughin:  It is nice to see how they all turned out.

Im curious how you think the mini in the neck on the FV compares to the full neck PU in your RS4?  I am really loving all the tones I am getting out of this thing.  The neck PU has really exceeded my expectations.

 :gotpics:    :whistling:

Here is #2 (again) flanked by my other 2 Larrivees.
-Matt

Great Pic and :nice guitar:'s

Quote from: bacchus on August 22, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Aren't these just awesome?  We still want pics  :laughin:  It is nice to see how they all turned out.

Im curious how you think the mini in the neck on the FV compares to the full neck PU in your RS4?  I am really loving all the tones I am getting out of this thing.  The neck PU has really exceeded my expectations.

This is indoor artificial lighting so crappy photos.  Below are pics of pics of #7 and some other guitars as well. 

Pictured with the Forum V is an all mahogany RS4 which is my main electric.  I originally came with gold hardware, which was too blingy for my simple tastes.  So I swapped out the hardware to nickel.  I put in gen3 humbuckers which are finished in like a gunmetal black; the originals were gold and gen 2 I think.  I also sanded the neck (very carefully) to make it satin. 

In the rack are my family of Larrivees.  The other guitars: the semi-hollow body is a Vox Virage.  It is a great guitar, super comfortable, with sophisticated construction.  However the original pickups were not that great, so I installed some Dimarzio soapbar P90's, plus put black knobs on it.  I'm not done with it yet, I may even try the Larrivee mini's in it to see how it sounds.  The tele is a Squier J5.  Made in China, very well built guitar, but cheap electronics and pickups.  I just recently installed some gen3 uncovered humbuckers and replaced the electrics with a prewired Callaham control plate.  The difference was noticeable.  It roars like a beast now.        

Quote from: bacchus on August 22, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
Aren't these just awesome?  We still want pics  :laughin:  It is nice to see how they all turned out.

Im curious how you think the mini in the neck on the FV compares to the full neck PU in your RS4?  I am really loving all the tones I am getting out of this thing.  The neck PU has really exceeded my expectations.

Regarding the mini neck pickup compared to the full humbucker neck pickup, that is a good question !!   I REALLY like the Larrivee gen3 full humbucker neck pickups.  I have them in my RS4 and modded a tele with the gen3's as well.  The sound is thick with great bass presence and power.  The bridge pickups are more bright, focused and twangy and good change of pace.

Compared to the full humbucker neck pickups the minis seem tighter, more focused, more touch sensitive (left hand needs to be accurate) with a faster attack.  They also seem "hotter."  The fulls seem warmer, and more organic.  Both are good pickups of course, with good note separation.  Your preference would likely depend on what kind of music you play.  I play blues stuff, so I actually prefer the fulls.  Keep in mind I am just a hobbyist (with steadily expanding guitar collection) !!     

Quote from: jojo123 on August 23, 2012, 03:33:32 AM
Regarding the mini neck pickup compared to the full humbucker neck pickup, that is a good question !!   I REALLY like the Larrivee gen3 full humbucker neck pickups.  I have them in my RS4 and modded a tele with the gen3's as well.  The sound is thick with great bass presence and power.  The bridge pickups are more bright, focused and twangy and good change of pace.

Compared to the full humbucker neck pickups the minis seem tighter, more focused, more touch sensitive (left hand needs to be accurate) with a faster attack.  They also seem "hotter."  The fulls seem warmer, and more organic.  Both are good pickups of course, with good note separation.  Your preference would likely depend on what kind of music you play.  I play blues stuff, so I actually prefer the fulls.  Keep in mind I am just a hobbyist (with steadily expanding guitar collection) !!     

Thanks for sharing!

You have quite a collection.  Very nice!  I love the all mahogany RS-4, looks very cool and very unique.  I also love the flame on your F-V.

I don't have much to compare it too, granted, but I am really liking the neck mini.  One thing it is doing for me is encouraging me to play some cleaner stuff because it just sounds so nice that way.  It is very smooth but with great articulation.  It's also got a nice balance from the warmth of the neck position and the slightly brighter nature of the pickup itself.  I am also really liking the pup driven with just enough gain to get a nice, chunky grind.

I don't even need to mention the full Gen3 bridge pup, that thing is exactly what I wanted, particularly for the real rock stuff, top notch.  I couldn't be happier here.  I am curious to hear the mini's in the bridge position though.

I haven't messed much with the in between settings, but really want to dive in there too.  So much to do...

Quote from: bacchus on August 23, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Thanks for sharing!

You have quite a collection.  Very nice!  I love the all mahogany RS-4, looks very cool and very unique.  I also love the flame on your F-V.

I don't have much to compare it too, granted, but I am really liking the neck mini.  One thing it is doing for me is encouraging me to play some cleaner stuff because it just sounds so nice that way.  It is very smooth but with great articulation.  It's also got a nice balance from the warmth of the neck position and the slightly brighter nature of the pickup itself.  I am also really liking the pup driven with just enough gain to get a nice, chunky grind.

I don't even need to mention the full Gen3 bridge pup, that thing is exactly what I wanted, particularly for the real rock stuff, top notch.  I couldn't be happier here.  I am curious to hear the mini's in the bridge position though.

I haven't messed much with the in between settings, but really want to dive in there too.  So much to do...

Thanks, the mahogany RS4 turned out really well.  There are some amazing finish details on that guitar, and the mahogany is amazing too, in my opinion.  Of course, none of this can really be seen in the photo.  I'll try to get a pic of it outdoors on cloudy day or something.

I'm looking forward to playing the FV and the minis.  Honestly, I haven't even put my usual strings on it or fine-tuned the set up to my preferences yet.  It is good to have different options as well, I don't want all my guitars to sound the same.  Hope you enjoy yours!   :thumbsup

Jojo,

Is there any binding on the neck of your mahogany RS-4?

Love that guitar, BTW - heck - love BOTH of them!

Mine came in a few hours ago!  Think it's #6.

The mini is more crisp than the full neck HB on my other one which is a plus as I think the FS neck is a little too bassy compared to the bridge.  The bridge pickup sounds a hair different as well, even after I pulled off the cover - some of it's probably the strings, some of it due to the potting (which, coincidentally removes a little bit of the janglyness I've discovered - for me, probably a good thing considering I have enough jangle in the amp).  The neck mini is much hotter than I expected and do not think it's potted bc it sorta 'feedback chimes' with higher gain/volume but nothing like the regular humbuckers did.  Will have to keep that one's volume pulled a hair till I get it sorted out.  Sounds great, satin on the neck is def a winner.  HS inlay is very nice too!  Had to do a quick setup on it... action was pretty high for an electric, nut slots a little high, too much relief, etc... I'm sure the fact that it's been shipped several thousand miles played a big role in that - no biggie.  Both RS4s are very close in weight... or at least I can't tell without a scale.  I don't know which one I like better yet.  My rootbeer RS4 has an absolutely stunning figure and the pups are working well for me.  The satin neck and the mini are what will ultimately make that decision for me I think.

Need to get these pups potted ASAP!

Thanks for those who pulled this one together.  My failed Forum attempt has most definitely shown me how much of a PIA it is to organize so again, thanks!

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 24, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
Mine came in a few hours ago!  Think it's #6.

The mini is more crisp than the full neck HB on my other one which is a plus as I think the FS neck is a little too bassy compared to the bridge.  The bridge pickup sounds a hair different as well, even after I pulled off the cover - some of it's probably the strings, some of it due to the potting (which, coincidentally removes a little bit of the janglyness I've discovered - for me, probably a good thing considering I have enough jangle in the amp).  The neck mini is much hotter than I expected and do not think it's potted bc it sorta 'feedback chimes' with higher gain/volume but nothing like the regular humbuckers did.  Will have to keep that one's volume pulled a hair till I get it sorted out.  Sounds great, satin on the neck is def a winner.  HS inlay is very nice too!  Had to do a quick setup on it... action was pretty high for an electric, nut slots a little high, too much relief, etc... I'm sure the fact that it's been shipped several thousand miles played a big role in that - no biggie.  Both RS4s are very close in weight... or at least I can't tell without a scale.  I don't know which one I like better yet.  My rootbeer RS4 has an absolutely stunning figure and the pups are working well for me.  The satin neck and the mini are what will ultimately make that decision for me I think.

Need to get these pups potted ASAP!

Thanks for those who pulled this one together.  My failed Forum attempt has most definitely shown me how much of a PIA it is to organize so again, thanks!

Phil

Glad to see that you got yours.  All this talk makes me very curious to hear the full sized neck HB.  The full bridge just rocks my world in so many ways.  On the other hand, I have been playing with the neck mini way more than I expected.  Certainly way more than I ever played neck HB's before.

My F-V could probably also use a little adjustment for relief and action in general, but I am going to try to wait it out for a little bit and let everything get adjusted to my ridiculous climate.

Keep us posted on your evolving impression on this.

BTW - obligitory  :gotpics: ...
   

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 24, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
Mine came in a few hours ago!  Think it's #6..........

You THINK it's number 6?  :?

Quote from: Mikeymac on August 24, 2012, 09:26:43 AM
Jojo,

Is there any binding on the neck of your mahogany RS-4?

Love that guitar, BTW - heck - love BOTH of them!

Greetings and thanks!  Yes, the all mahogany RS-4 has black binding on the neck and the binding around the top of body has neat little white pinstriping.  Top slab of mahogany is quite impressive in my opinion, and deserving of better pics.  I will try to get some posted in the picture forum...

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 25, 2012, 12:42:39 AM
You THINK it's number 6?  :?

When I wrote I wasn't near the guitar and wasn't 100% sure.  I checked this morning.  It definitely is number 6.

Phil

Shot a quick vid with my phone goin through the pickups clean n distorted on the FV... I say what position the selector is in but it's pretty faint since the amp is so loud and the phone's mic limiter has a pretty slow release/attack.  The rig here uses a TimeLine delay, WET reverb, and a VFE phaser in the FX loop and a custom built MOSFET booster running into an OCD which is set as another stage of boost.  I pop on a HOG at some point as well.  These go right into the front of an AC30CCH running through a 412 with V30s... for those that are curious :)

Video: RS4 FV, etc stuff (https://plus.google.com/photos/108821144678309407858/albums/5780652730364147201/5780652727242386226)

The bridge HB is a nasty freak but not so great for clean (the honk of a bridge HB doesn't sound pretty to me).  The mini in the neck, on the other hand, has much more scooped mids than the full HB, more 'crystal' high end.. sounds real sweet clean... like a super hot single coil with more mids. I am liking the neck mini the more I play around.  Seems more balanced with the bridge pickup.

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 25, 2012, 11:54:31 AM
Shot a quick vid with my phone goin through the pickups clean n distorted on the FV... I say what position the selector is in but it's pretty faint since the amp is so loud and the phone's mic limiter has a pretty slow release/attack.  The rig here uses a TimeLine delay, WET reverb, and a VFE phaser in the FX loop and a custom built MOSFET booster running into an OCD which is set as another stage of boost.  I pop on a HOG at some point as well.  These go right into the front of an AC30CCH running through a 412 with V30s... for those that are curious :)

Video: RS4 FV, etc stuff (https://plus.google.com/photos/108821144678309407858/albums/5780652730364147201/5780652727242386226)

The bridge HB is a nasty freak but not so great for clean (the honk of a bridge HB doesn't sound pretty to me).  The mini in the neck, on the other hand, has much more scooped mids than the full HB, more 'crystal' high end.. sounds real sweet clean... like a super hot single coil with more mids. I am liking the neck mini the more I play around.  Seems more balanced with the bridge pickup.

Phil

Thanks for the demo!  Very interesting.  You have a nice set up there!  Needless to say, your phone mic doesn't do it justice.   :smile:  I'm getting used to the mini in the neck as well.  Still seems a bit "hot", but I will play it for a while before tweaking anything.  I lowered the action too.  Interestingly, I did notice that there wasn't any conductive shielding paint in the pickup cavity or in the control cavity.  I usually see that on the high end electrics although the FV isn't very "noisy" so probably doesn't need it.   Thanks again for the analysis, I'm interesting in seeing what you end up doing with the mini, any mods, etc.   

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 25, 2012, 11:54:31 AM
Shot a quick vid with my phone goin through the pickups clean n distorted on the FV... I say what position the selector is in but it's pretty faint since the amp is so loud and the phone's mic limiter has a pretty slow release/attack.  The rig here uses a TimeLine delay, WET reverb, and a VFE phaser in the FX loop and a custom built MOSFET booster running into an OCD which is set as another stage of boost.  I pop on a HOG at some point as well.  These go right into the front of an AC30CCH running through a 412 with V30s... for those that are curious :)

Video: RS4 FV, etc stuff (https://plus.google.com/photos/108821144678309407858/albums/5780652730364147201/5780652727242386226)

The bridge HB is a nasty freak but not so great for clean (the honk of a bridge HB doesn't sound pretty to me).  The mini in the neck, on the other hand, has much more scooped mids than the full HB, more 'crystal' high end.. sounds real sweet clean... like a super hot single coil with more mids. I am liking the neck mini the more I play around.  Seems more balanced with the bridge pickup.

Phil

Nice demo.  The first few notes sound piano-like to me.  Would like to hear some more demos from others, especially playing more straight thru without too many effects.  Maybe I'll attempt one myself!

Kurt

Very nice demo Phil, that sounded really great!

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 25, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
Nice demo.  The first few notes sound piano-like to me.  Would like to hear some more demos from others, especially playing more straight thru without too many effects.  Maybe I'll attempt one myself!
Kurt

I actually sat down a week ago to record some demos on this and found my recording equipment not up to task.  I have, in the meantime, been trying to get some decent stuff together with what I have (an iphone and a little line6 backtrack mini recorder).

Yea, I'll get a decent one done one of these days.  I'd like to add a side-by-side with the other RS4 for a decent comparison between the mini and fullsize pickups.

Here's a pic:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DtRQ7Nlm6Hg/UDpwBBvAm0I/AAAAAAAAA5g/a7AilRtNUrA/s931/photo+%286%29.JPG)

I will probably switch out the cream bridge for an all black one; didn't realize when I spec'd bobbin colour that the plastics were going to be black :/

Phil

I am so stupid, I have been waiting thinking that I'll find a good day to drive to LA and pick it up in person saving on shipping. It hasn't worked out in like three weeks (work/home/raising chitlins/1hour+ away/etc.). I finally gave in and emailed Helene for a Paypal invoice today. Ughh. I could have had it weeks ago.  :blush:

Quote from: PM33AUD on August 26, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
Yea, I'll get a decent one done one of these days.  I'd like to add a side-by-side with the other RS4 for a decent comparison between the mini and fullsize pickups.

Here's a pic:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DtRQ7Nlm6Hg/UDpwBBvAm0I/AAAAAAAAA5g/a7AilRtNUrA/s931/photo+%286%29.JPG)

I will probably switch out the cream bridge for an all black one; didn't realize when I spec'd bobbin colour that the plastics were going to be black :/

Phil

That's a great pic, Phil.

Quote from: scdreger on August 29, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
I finally gave in and emailed Helene for a Paypal invoice today. Ughh. I could have had it weeks ago.  :blush:

So did you get it  :?

Who's still waiting :?

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on September 10, 2012, 04:46:16 PM


Who's still waiting :?

I am still waiting.  I haven't heard any status report.  I feel kind of left out.  :crying:

Quote from: Cybercanyon on September 11, 2012, 05:35:16 AM

I am still waiting.  I haven't heard any status report.  I feel kind of left out.  :crying:

Surely they're all finished. Which dealer did you order through? Local?  :?

Quote from: Mikeymac on September 11, 2012, 07:52:01 AM
Which dealer did you order through? Local?  :?

:? Mike they were all ordered thru LA Guitar Sales (http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/3040/mfg/10/)

Cybercanyon - I suspected yours would be the last due to the Bigsby. Not too many RS-4's made with a Bigsby  :wink: You know what thy say all good things come to those who wait :smile:

So looking forward to pics of yours with the Bigsby

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on September 11, 2012, 08:06:03 AM

Cybercanyon - I suspected yours would be the last due to the Bigsby. Not too many RS-4's made with a Bigsby  :wink: You know what thy say all good things come to those who wait :smile:

So looking forward to pics of yours with the Bigsby

I will wait patiently as best as I can.   :whistling:
I can always play my other guitars.  One of them has a Bigsby I can pass the time with.   :nana_guitar

Quote from: Cybercanyon on September 11, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
I will wait patiently as best as I can.   :whistling:
I can always play my other guitars.  One of them has a Bigsby I can pass the time with.   :nana_guitar

Ummmm... You might wanna check the Larrivee FB page... Jus' sayin'!  :wave

Quote from: CZERO9RW on September 11, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
Ummmm... You might wanna check the Larrivee FB page... Jus' sayin'!  :wave

:+1:

That thing is AMAZING - well worth the wait!!!

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!   :bowdown:

Man, that one is gorgeous!  That gold hardware and bigsby actually look pretty freaking nice.

Mike, that is one nice Forum guitar coming your way!  :nice guitar:

Wow is right!  I am speechless.  Matthew that is one beautiful guitar.   :drool:
Congratulations to you, your family and staff for a truly amazing guitar.  Joyce, thank you and LA Guitars for helping make the Forum V's come to fruition.

Mike

Who's got the Bigsby FV?!  I gots me sum questions! :D

Phil

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 09, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
Who's got the Bigsby FV?!  I gots me sum questions! :D

Phil

I believe that would be Cybercanyon, AKA, Mike.

Quote from: PM33AUD on October 09, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
Who's got the Bigsby FV?!  I gots me sum questions! :D

Phil

What questions do you have?

Mike

Quote from: Cybercanyon on October 09, 2012, 03:13:06 PM
What questions do you have?

Mike

Hi Mike!

I was on the fence with a Bigsby on my FV and ended up going stop tail but am really wanting to get myself a decent 6 string trem guitar as I already have a stop tail RS4 (which is why I have the FV up FS).

My questions about the Bigsby are pretty simple:

1)  how is tuning stability for maybe up to 1 octave range down?  How far 'up' does it go?   2)  How is the placement of the arm?  3)  do the strings pop off the saddles when playing aggressively?

I am used to ibanezes and strats as far as trems go.  Maybe you can comment if this would be a good trem to install?  I was looking at the stetsbar pro II and a new 'bolt on' floyd rose trem for LPs called the FRX, which has me very excited but not out yet (and may not even be released).  The stetsbar is very nice and stable trem from what I've seen and would allow me to drop the guitar to D without problem, which I routinely go back and forth with.  The stetsbar, however, does look a little goofy.  I guess I dont care at the end of the day if I do plan on using the guitar more often and keep it.

Thanks much,
Phil

Where to begin?  First off I am very happy with both my RS4 / Bigsby setups.  I use them primarily for subtle shimmering vibrato effects for which they perform flawlessly and an occasional aggressive play.  I have no tuning issues with how I play and having the roller bridge is a must.  Both RS4s are setup with a B3 Bigsby paired with a Schaller roller bridge.

1.)  It has a limited range compared to the strat type trems I have on my other guitars.  My friend has a Stetsbar he fitted on an LP and he likes it.  We compared it to the Bigsby and it definitely has more range both up and down and can be played more aggressively than the B3.  Pulling up to far on the B3 can result in the spring popping out.  He didn't have any tuning issues with his Stetsbar.  

2.)  I like the B3 arm placement, no problems.  When I was comparing Bigsby's, I did find the arm placement awkward if you modified it or used a Bigsby other than the B3 for a guitar like the RS4.

3.)  I experienced no problems with the strings popping off with aggressive playing.  The Schaller roller bridge works great.  The OEM Tonepros on the RS4 won't work well.

Yes, I also think the Stetsbar looks goofy.  The Bigsby B3 on my RS4 F-V definitely looks more classy and aesthetically pleasing.  Ultimately it finally comes down to your playing style as to the best choice for your RS4.  The best advice I can give is to try before you buy, although that is easier said than done for some of us.

I hope this helps.

Mike

No.6  Changed hands, Lucky me !

Quote from: psr-740 on October 21, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
No.6  Changed hands, Lucky me !

I'd say. You now have a couple fairly unique RS-4's there friend.  :thumb

Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on October 21, 2012, 06:57:16 PM
I'd say. You now have a couple fairly unique RS-4's there friend.  :thumb

:cheers

Can more people post up some pictures of their V's? I haven't had GAS since I bought my L-03, but then I discovered the forum V! Did anyone opt for the wrap around tail piece? Thought that would be interesting to see.

Congrats psr-740!  I was just thinking about posting something about these.  I was playing mine today and realizing how much I am enjoying this guitar.  I have really been playing this thing as much as I can get my hands on it, and it just keeps getting better.

Enjoy yours, Im curious to know what you think of it.

Quote from: Long813 on October 21, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Can more people post up some pictures of their V's? I haven't had GAS since I bought my L-03, but then I discovered the forum V! Did anyone opt for the wrap around tail piece? Thought that would be interesting to see.

Yes, and also I'm still trying to find out if I am the only one who got P90s on theirs.  So again I ask, did anyone else get one with P90's installed?

Kurt

Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on October 21, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
Yes, and also I'm still trying to find out if I am the only one who got P90s on theirs.  So again I ask, did anyone else get one with P90's installed?

Kurt

You might be Kurt, I don't recall any others.  I hope they are treating you well.