Brazilian?

[dee-ten]

Seller claims it's Brazilian... what do you say?

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[bhika]

The coloring looks right. If it is Brazilian it's an awfully nice 1/4 sawn set.

[ducktrapper]

From the pic, I couldn't even be sure it's rosewood. Could be, I guess.   

[unclrob]

Thats a fairly light coloured brazillian.If its a Larrivee it would say Brazillian on the label or stamped on the neck block brazilian or BZ.

[Dale_I]

You definitly need a better picture if you are going to pay a premium for BZ. Looks pretty straight grained for BZ... but could be. With only that pic, I would lean more towards Indian Rosewood.

[OutWithTheBlue]

I'm going to have to go not Brazilian.

[zpcm04]

Get the serial number and forward it to the manufacturer and see what they say.

[dee-ten]

Thanks for your input everyone. 

Get the serial number and forward it to the manufacturer and see what they say.

In process... I'll let you know.


Here is the ad, if you want to have a look: http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-guitars-Larrivee-12-String-Guitar-W0QQAdIdZ220927596

[JOYCEfromNS]

Well friend even if its IR it appears to be a great deal tho I caution - do the deal in person don't send money as many Kijiji scams. If BR the price to me is too good to be true. Because the Git is so old I believe Larrivee has had some record keeping issues thus they may not have that info you desire either.

Good Luck

[AZLiberty]

Unlikely to be Braz.

BUT.  That's still a very good price for a D-09-12.  I'd be tempted to buy it anyway.  Interesting headstock, never seen Larrivee written sideways like that before.

[Pickering_Picker]

Whoa! That brings back memories! I once had an Edgar Mönch classical with a Brazilian set just like that. Same yellow+brown colour; same quarter-sawn grain lines. (Mönch was Larrivee's teacher.) You'd need better focus and resolution to really call the wood, but to my eye it's definitely in the running as being Brazilian. Certainly have never seen Indian RW anywhere near that colour.

[Randy_R]

I doubt its Brazilian. Looks like a mid-80's L-09-12. Same style of scripted Larrivee logo as the recent thread on the L-07. That matches the sellers claim to have bought it 25 years ago.

Nice guitar if the neck and bridge are ok.

picture posted here for posterity.



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[ducktrapper]

Oddly, to me, the back looks more like Braz, seen through the soundhole. 

[Randy_R]

The Indian RW that Larrivee was using in the early mid-80's had that look. The circa 1983 L-07 I have with the same logo (normal orientation) is very similar.

1982 on left, 1983 on right...




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[dee-ten]

Here's the reply I received from Larrivee:


Unfortunately we made a move a few years back and in the process of that move we lost our serial record from the beginning up until about 1987.  Slowly we've been trying to reconstruct the database with information about owners with our older guitars.  This 12 string in particular was probably built around 1982. It could be Brazilian Rosewood but I'd only be able to confirm that if I saw pictures.

So I sent the pictures, including the ones below. I'm guessing they'll say it's Indian.

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[dee-ten]

and a couple more...

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[L07 Shooting Star]

The Indian RW that Larrivee was using in the early mid-80's had that look. The circa 1983 L-07 I have with the same logo (normal orientation) is very similar.

Randy and all.
Here's the back of my 1982-83 L07.  Looks very similiar to yours, eh?  So ours are both Indian Rosewood, then?

Kurt


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[ducktrapper]

Brazilian sometimes looks like this.

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[L07 Shooting Star]

Here's the reply I received from Larrivee:

Unfortunately we made a move a few years back and in the process of that move we lost our serial record from the beginning up until about 1987.  Slowly we've been trying to reconstruct the database with information about owners with our older guitars.  This 12 string in particular was probably built around 1982. It could be Brazilian Rosewood but I'd only be able to confirm that if I saw pictures.
So I sent the pictures, including the ones below. I'm guessing they'll say it's Indian.

Dee-ten, maybe a dumb question, but did you include the full pic of the guitar's back that you originally posted to start the thread?

Kurt

[L07 Shooting Star]

Brazilian sometimes looks like this.

Man oh man, how does one even tell for sure, then?  And if it's that hard to tell, how significant is it in the big picture?  Duck, after seeing your pic, I'm again in doubt about what mine is.  Now I want mine to be Brazilian too, but I don't even know why for sure.     I guess I'm mostly wondering what it is about the Brazilian that makes it so much more desirable, and why it demands a premium.  Is it the rarity factor (thus collectability) mostly, the aesthetics, is there a tone advantage?

Kurt