Hello,

I offered to post this on behalf of Jim Holler. It was mentioned to those of us present in Vancouver that there were some extra guitars that were being made. Exactly how many and which wood combinations were not known at the time. Jim received the following list from John Larrivee last night.

Anybody who is interested should contact Jim either via telephone or email as soon as possible as these are being sold on a first come first serve basis. Jim will require a deposit from you now, as was the case with the original orders with the remainder to be paid before shipping. Please note that direct shipping to Canada is still an option if you are a Canadian and wish for this. Also, for any Canadians interested in a Forum III, GST must be paid directly to Larrivee Guitars before shipping. Jim can provide details on who to contact there.

Without further adieu, here is the list:

1 mh - mahogany top & herringbone purfling  LS03MTHB 

3 mh - italian spruce top  LS03

3 mh - italian spruce top & herringbone purfling LS03 HB
   2 sold
   1 left

2 rw - italian spruce top & herring bone purfling LS03RHB

1 rw - italian spruce top LS03R

Jim is currently unsure as to when these will ship, but expects this to happen after the 78 original orders have shipped.

Lynda

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 06:28:44 PM

Jim is currently unsure as to when these will ship, but expects this to happen after the 78 original orders have shipped.

It had better be or there will be  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:humour:

Of course they're going to ship afterwards!  :smile:

Here Ricky Ricky...Here Ricky Ricky.....


I see a couple sold already...OK who picked an extra one up??????

Interesting - I know there was an extra RW/IS lefty - wonder what happened to it??!

Meanwhile, I have a beef - prices included two rounds of shipping plus bone saddle/setup. Those of us who did or will be picking our guitars up in person incurred neither of those expenses nor received the saddle/setup service.

Mike

Quote from: photomat on March 25, 2009, 06:51:57 PM
Here Ricky Ricky...Here Ricky Ricky.....


I see a couple sold already...OK who picked an extra one up??????

Guilty as charged  :roll

Quote from: Vancouver Southpaw on March 25, 2009, 06:52:09 PM
Interesting - I know there was an extra RW/IS lefty - wonder what happened to it??!

Meanwhile, I have a beef - prices included two rounds of shipping plus bone saddle/setup. Those of us who did or will be picking our guitars up in person incurred neither of those expenses nor received the saddle/setup service.

Mike

It's a moot point for me. I'm too happy with my lil git.

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Guilty as charged  :roll

Yea but what are you guilty of?

Quote from: Vancouver Southpaw on March 25, 2009, 06:52:09 PM
Interesting - I know there was an extra RW/IS lefty - wonder what happened to it??!

Meanwhile, I have a beef - prices included two rounds of shipping plus bone saddle/setup. Those of us who did or will be picking our guitars up in person incurred neither of those expenses nor received the saddle/setup service.

Mike

Mike
You make an excellent point.  I wonder if we could at least have the bone saddle sent to us so we can install it ourselves.    Indeed, picking up our guitars saved, in my case, 6,000 miles of shipping.   Perhaps a rebate  would not be unreasonable.

Quote from: dependan on March 25, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
  Yea but what are you guilty of?

For buying another Forum III.

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 07:08:10 PM
For buying another Forum III.

seriously Lynda!  What flavour did you get???  Hog/IS with HB?  Consider me jealous!

Quote from: BenF on March 25, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
seriously Lynda!  What flavour did you get???  Hog/IS with HB?  Consider me jealous!

Sorry Ben, but yes, that's what I got. Please don't be jealous, just know that the LS size is just perfect for me and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to get another.

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 07:12:32 PM
Sorry Ben, but yes, that's what I got. Please don't be jealous, just know that the LS size is just perfect for me and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to get another.

:thumbsup, and to think you nearly didn't get the first one. :guitar

As for the discussion here about the shipping/bone saddle subject, please speak to Jim Holler for clarification.

Quote from: BenF on March 25, 2009, 07:01:50 PM
The bone saddle was offered as a freebie by JH.  Nobody was paying for it, and the offer stood if you waited for it to be shipped with the others (as someone did at the factory visit).  Also, the pice includes one round of shipping.  If you bought another guitar from JH, would you be charged for the shipping from Larrivee to JH.  No, just the shipping from him to you.  Sorry to sound argumentative, but I think it is a bit out of line to gripe about this.  Jim is selling these guitars just as he would any other guitar, but with an even better than the normal level of excelent customer service.

Everyone who took theirs home on the 16th or chose direct shipping knew what the implications were.

Ben

Point taken about the double shipping. As for the saddles, nothing is free. Jim is in business and I'm sure a calculation was made. I don't have a problem with that - business is business. And yes, we knew the implications of taking 'em home that day, although I didn't have the option as they built mine backwards. Sorry that you feel I'm out of line.

Mike

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 07:12:32 PM
Sorry Ben, but yes, that's what I got. Please don't be jealous, just know that the LS size is just perfect for me and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to get another.

There are more available, why stop with two.

Roger, please stop enabling me.  :roll

Quote from: Vancouver Southpaw on March 25, 2009, 07:16:11 PM

Point taken about the double shipping. As for the saddles, nothing is free. Jim is in business and I'm sure a calculation was made. I don't have a problem with that - business is business. And yes, we knew the implications of taking 'em home that day, although I didn't have the option as they built mine backwards. Sorry that you feel I'm out of line.

Mike

Sorry too, I am not usually one for being confrontational.  I shouldn't say 'out of line'.   lets :cheers agree to disagree :cheers instead

I do, however, feel your pain about seeing your guitar the wrong way around, that must have been a pain on the day.

    I don't know about "out of line" but I do believe that this should be done between the dealer and the buyer if there is a problem.
   We have kept this a positive experience to this point and to make a small item loom larger in public is just not my cup of tea.
    I will personally make bone saddles and send them to anyone who was there and wants one if it makes you feel better.
danny

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 07:08:10 PM
For buying another Forum III.

You did what so many of us wanted to do. I'm glad you got the MH/IS, I think you will really enjoy it.

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 07:24:42 PM
Roger, please stop enabling me.  :roll

Here Lynda Lynda
Here Ricky Ricky
Here Lynda Lynda
Here Matt Matt


Voices everywhere...what to do.......what to do to make them stop   :wink:

Quote from: BenF on March 25, 2009, 07:26:08 PM
Sorry too, I am not usually one for being confrontational.  I shouldn't say 'out of line'.   :cheers agree to disagree :cheers

I do, however, feel your pain about seeing your guitar the wrong way around, that must have been a pain on the day.

And let me clear as to my feelings on this.  I didn't travel all the way to Vancouver at my own expense so that I could look at my guitar and then let it be packed up and shipped to New York for a brief stay and then packed up and shipped to California.   As long as it was "finished" and had the factory set-up
done I intended to take it with me.  I suppose, somewhere along the line the cost that would have gone to ship mine from New York was saved by my choice to take mine home with me..  I'm not complaining about that.  As far as the bone saddle is concerned they aren't super-expensive so I can easily get one on my own and fit it like I've done on my other guitars.  I wasn't asking for anything that hadn't already been offered.  And I did get a hat, even if it turned out to be Danny's.  :bgrin:

How many on the list of available guitars are lefty's??  As was pointed out, I know of one left handed RW/IS with purfling extra was built for sure.  Any other LH ones out there?

Quote from: johnny37 on March 25, 2009, 07:43:04 PM
How many on the list of available guitars are lefty's??  As was pointed out, I know of one left handed RW/IS with purfling extra was built for sure.  Any other LH ones out there?

John, I have no idea. You would have to contact Jim for that info.

hmm IS.......... yum.....

very tempting.. yet I cant wait for my hogtop....

Quote from: es-335 on March 25, 2009, 07:59:02 PM
hmm IS.......... yum.....

very tempting.. yet I cant wait for my hogtop....

Trust me Jeff, the IS is AMAZING!

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 06:28:44 PM
Hello,

I offered to post this on behalf of Jim Holler. It was mentioned to those of us present in Vancouver that there were some extra guitars that were being made. Exactly how many and which wood combinations were not known at the time. Jim received the following list from John Larrivee last night.

Anybody who is interested should contact Jim either via telephone or email as soon as possible as these are being sold on a first come first serve basis. Jim will require a deposit from you now, as was the case with the original orders with the remainder to be paid before shipping. Please note that direct shipping to Canada is still an option if you are a Canadian and wish for this. Also, for any Canadians interested in a Forum III, GST must be paid directly to Larrivee Guitars before shipping. Jim can provide details on who to contact there.

Without further adieu, here is the list:

1 mh - mahogany top & herringbone purfling  LS03MTHB 

3 mh - italian spruce top  LS03

3 mh - italian spruce top & herringbone purfling LS03 HB
   2 sold
   1 left

2 rw - italian spruce top & herring bone purfling LS03RHB

1 rw - italian spruce top LS03R

Jim is currently unsure as to when these will ship, but expects this to happen after the 78 original orders have shipped.

Lynda

Damn.....I just knew this would happen ......  I want one :crying:  Honey..........!!!!!  :guitar

I wonder...  if.. hog->IS switch is possible...  :whistling:

but then I think I should stick with stick with hog... because.. my J45(sitka/hog) is amazing... :)

Quote from: dependan on March 25, 2009, 07:31:17 PM
   I don't know about "out of line" but I do believe that this should be done between the dealer and the buyer if there is a problem.
   We have kept this a positive experience to this point and to make a small item loom larger in public is just not my cup of tea.
    I will personally make bone saddles and send them to anyone who was there and wants one if it makes you feel better.
danny

:beer

This is not helping me. Must resist.....

Quote from: Mr_LV19E on March 25, 2009, 07:24:10 PM
There are more available, why stop with two.

I smell BACON....

Lynda,

If you find a treasure of great value, as the Forum Guitar seems to be, I suppose you should do exactly what you did ... GO FOR IT!

There was a certain unassigned LS-03R that caught my eye in John Larrivee's photos. Jim had better not tell me that it is one of the available spares!!

Norman

Quote from: ronmac on March 25, 2009, 10:02:22 PM
This is not helping me. Must resist.....

Come on Ron. You didn't jump on the bandwagon before. Now is your second chance and that chance is limited. Yes, I'm enabling you. :cheers

 :+1:
This is good news...

Just wondering, what would be the number in the label.

#79 of 78 ?

:whistling:

Quote from: lyric_girl on March 25, 2009, 10:11:55 PM
Come on Ron. You didn't jump on the bandwagon before. Now is your second chance and that chance is limited. Yes, I'm enabling you. :cheers

Thanks. I think I'll go back and edit my post to say "YOU are not helping me."  :humour:

Must resist...

Quote from: ronmac on March 26, 2009, 06:49:48 AM
Thanks. I think I'll go back and edit my post to say "YOU are not helping me."  :humour:

Must resist...

resistance is futile Ron!!!!

I cannot wait to get that email from Denika saying "your guitar has shipped and here's your tracking number"

If I had the dough, I would love to get either an all hog or a RW/IS but you know, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with my MH/IS.  Once it arrives, I get the impression that the L and OO may not see the light of day for a little while! 

Now, someone post some more pictures so I can get even more excited!!!

Quote from: pehabe on March 26, 2009, 06:20:22 AM
:+1:
This is good news...

Just wondering, what would be the number in the label.

#79 of 78 ?

:whistling:

They have already used A and B I think. Or it may just say Forum III

Quote from: pehabe on March 26, 2009, 06:20:22 AM
:+1:
This is good news...

Just wondering, what would be the number in the label.

#79 of 78 ?

:whistling:

I am not sure they will label the numbers.. but I know ricky got the last numbered guitar and that was #78

Quote from: es-335 on March 26, 2009, 08:34:59 AM
I am not sure they will label the numbers.. but I know ricky got the last numbered guitar and that was #78

And the numbers were not printed on, John hand wrote them like this 1/78 etc.

I believe the label will be the same Forum III label (not sure if it's gonna be signed, as this wasn't spoken about), but the guitars will not be numbered. The original Forum III order will be 1-78 and these will be unnumbered.

PS Would be happy to enable anybody into one of these amazing guitars if you would like. :humour:

Grrrrrr!  :humour:

This is so not helping!!

Either get your head examined to see if they can discover any traces of insanity or buy one of these extra Forum III's...your choice.
:nanadance

It wouldn't help. I already know I'm insane, at least as far guitars go...

Sounds like you're on the right track then... :whistling:

Quote from: bluesman67 on March 26, 2009, 10:49:37 AM
Sounds like you're on the right track then... :whistling:

For sure in the right forum :arrow

So Mazareth, have you called Jim yet?  :roll

About these extra guitars: John Jr sent me an email just before I left for the Larrivee day on 3/16 but asked me not to let it out until he gave me the word. The email had the list of the extra Forum III guitars that were started in case anything happened to the first 78. Now that the guitars are almost done John has released these extra guitars so that we can make them available.
   Randy and I exchanged emails about what would be the best way to offer these guitars and here is the plan that resulted with his input.
1) The guitars would have the forum III label in them but would not get a series number #** of 78
2) They would first be offered to the list of people that missed the close of the order date for what ever reason and asked to be on a waiting list.
3) Next the general forum membership would get a crack at them
4) I will buy the balance if there are any as stock and offer them out of my studio.
  We felt it best to respect the series numbering on the original 78.
Hope this clears up some of the questions. We really wanted to be fair about these " extra " suprise guitars.

Jim Holler

Will the guitars still be personally signed? Why can't they just label them 1E-10E or "something"  :?

Quote from: Trinity Guitars on March 26, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
About these extra guitars: John Jr sent me an email just before I left for the Larrivee day on 3/16 but asked me not to let it out until he gave me the word. The email had the list of the extra Forum III guitars that were started in case anything happened to the first 78. Now that the guitars are almost done John has released these extra guitars so that we can make them available.
   Randy and I exchanged emails about what would be the best way to offer these guitars and here is the plan that resulted with his input.
1) The guitars would have the forum III label in them but would not get a series number #** of 78
2) They would first be offered to the list of people that missed the close of the order date for what ever reason and asked to be on a waiting list.
3) Next the general forum membership would get a crack at them
4) I will buy the balance if there are any as stock and offer them out of my studio.
  We felt it best to respect the series numbering on the original 78.
Hope this clears up some of the questions. We really wanted to be fair about these " extra " suprise guitars.

Jim Holler

FWIW, I think Jim and Randy have come up with a very reasonable approach to the availability of "over run" guitars. Respecting the intention of a numbered limited edition series is key to honoring the group of purchasers that ponied up before the well publicized deadline.

I must resist....

Quote from: ronmac on March 26, 2009, 03:33:02 PM
FWIW, I think Jim and Randy have come up with a very reasonable approach to the availability of "over run" guitars. Respecting the intention of a numbered limited edition series is key to honoring the group of purchasers that ponied up before the well publicized deadline.

I must resist....

I 100% agree. 

Whatever works. I mean, it's not like they said there were only going to be so many made to start with. They would have made 100 if that many orders were placed. Unfortunately, I wasn't a member then. But it certainly wouldn't be a stigma on the 78 to have some secondary numbering system for 10 more. Not a huge deal.....just saying is all  :whistling: But I'm sure all that was considered during their discussion, so no biggee  :winkin:

Quote from: ronmac on March 26, 2009, 03:33:02 PM
FWIW, I think Jim and Randy have come up with a very reasonable approach to the availability of "over run" guitars. Respecting the intention of a numbered limited edition series is key to honoring the group of purchasers that ponied up before the well publicized deadline.

I must resist....

Nuff said

Hi all,
I am really temped to get one of this "spare" FIII.
One question to you who has received and played it:  Hows the neck feels? Playability? Same "stiffness" like standard L series?
I am still on quest for easy playing yet good sounding guitar.
Your info would help my decision.

Thank you,
Peter

I purposely stayed away from the Forum Guitar threads and now you throw this at me  :mad:

As ronmac said, 'must resist'

John

Quote from: Johnny M on March 26, 2009, 07:05:07 PM
I purposely stayed away from the Forum Guitar threads and now you throw this at me  :mad:

As ronmac said, 'must resist'

John

Resistance is futile!  :roll

Quote from: pehabe on March 26, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
Hi all,
I am really temped to get one of this "spare" FIII.
One question to you who has received and played it:  Hows the neck feels? Playability? Same "stiffness" like standard L series?
I am still on quest for easy playing yet good sounding guitar.
Your info would help my decision.

Thank you,
Peter

Peter
For what it's worth:    I have an L-10, an OM-03r, a 000-50mt and a new Forum III.  I think the neck on this Forum III is the most comfortable and easiest to play.  Barre chords are a snap which is kind of my barometer for an easy to play guitar.  It's a great size and a very comfortable fit whether sitting or standing.  It just feels real good in my hands.

Quote from: tuffythepug on March 26, 2009, 07:18:45 PM
Peter
For what it's worth:    I have an L-10, an OM-03r, a 000-50mt and a new Forum III.  I think the neck on this Forum III is the most comfortable and easiest to play.  Barre chords are a snap which is kind of my barometer for an easy to play guitar.  It's a great size and a very comfortable fit whether sitting or standing.  It just feels real good in my hands.

Ditto

Tuffythepug,

Seems to me you are missing a Larrivee dread of some sort, any plans?  :cheers

Quote from: pehabe on March 26, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
Hi all,
I am really temped to get one of this "spare" FIII.
One question to you who has received and played it:  Hows the neck feels? Playability? Same "stiffness" like standard L series?
I am still on quest for easy playing yet good sounding guitar.
Your info would help my decision.

Thank you,
Peter

Peter, this F-3 is an amazing little piece.  The neck is a slightly nicer shape than my 1991 C-19 making it super easy to grab bar chords anywhere, but also to wrap your thumb over for the low E string whenever needed.  The playability is superb, and the tone of mine (IS/RW) is bright, bouncy and not at all tinkly on the trebles nor thuddy on the bass.  Over the whole spectrum, I love it.  My C-19 is sitka/rosewood, and the middles are better on that guitar, but its also almost 20 years old.  My F-3 is about two weeks old, so that one will still open up a ton more.  You're looking for an easy playing, good sounding guitar?  I don't see how you could do any better than the F-3.  If I didn't already have one, I'd buy one immediately.  Knowing now what I know after playing one and hearing others, I would be sorry if I didn't have it.

Quote from: bluesman67 on March 26, 2009, 09:30:24 PM
Tuffythepug,

Seems to me you are missing a Larrivee dread of some sort, any plans?  :cheers

I wouldn't say no to an SD-50 if I saw one at the right price................ I'll probably be selling my Guild Jumbo at some point and when I do I'll start seriously looking for an SD-50 or possibly a regular D-50.
The only dread I have is my 93 Gibson Gospel which I won't sell;  too many memories.

Quote from: tuffythepug on March 26, 2009, 09:53:07 PM

I wouldn't say no to an SD-50 if I saw one at the right price................ I'll probably be selling my Guild Jumbo at some point and when I do I'll start seriously looking for an SD-50 or possibly a regular D-50.
The only dread I have is my 93 Gibson Gospel which I won't sell;  too many memories.

I guess for some of us.. "Only a gibson isn't good enough." eh? lol :whistling:

my wife tells me all the time..

when I bought my first 'good' guitar J45.. She looked at the box it came in.. which says "Only a gibson is good enough".
and said, "So.. after this no more guitars right??" and I said "yes! only a gibson is good enough!!"..

but clearly.. man can't have only one guitar...

 :cheers :cheers :cheers

tuffythepug , dependan and johnny37 ... thanks for your kind input.
These hands on information is exactly what I need.
BTW What is your string gauge? and is it still EXPs (special for these FIII, right).

*so where is Jims email?... click... click... ah there you are... click... click*  :beer

:donut :donut :donut

Quote from: pehabe on March 27, 2009, 03:59:46 AM
:cheers :cheers :cheers

tuffythepug , dependan and johnny37 ... thanks for your kind input.
These hands on information is exactly what I need.
BTW What is your string gauge? and is it still EXPs (special for these FIII, right).

*so where is Jims email?... click... click... ah there you are... click... click*  :beer

:donut :donut :donut

EXP'S   12-54's I believe.

danny

Quote from: pehabe on March 27, 2009, 03:59:46 AM
:cheers :cheers :cheers

tuffythepug , dependan and johnny37 ... thanks for your kind input.
These hands on information is exactly what I need.
BTW What is your string gauge? and is it still EXPs (special for these FIII, right).

*so where is Jims email?... click... click... ah there you are... click... click*  :beer

:donut :donut :donut

Shall we be assuming that you have jumped on board then?

The Forum 3's are strung with EXP lights.

Dragon1952- I think as far as all that ordered are concerned, & Larrivee, the run is done & more would be no fun. Some squeezed in @ the end after the orders were closed. Not to be a party-pooper, but I think all that ordered by the deadline are those that got in. No more of these special guitars should be made. It's like jumping on the boat after the fish really start biting. Now that reviews of F-III's are coming in, many are kicking themselves in the -CENSORED- for not getting in. Apparently, if you check the new threads, there is an IS/HOG up for sale due to the economy & who knows what else might happen. Don't mean to sound spiteful or mean, but if you didn't go for it @ first you're probably out of luck. Not to say that Larrivee might now decide to offer an LS-03; I doubt it & they wouldn't have the same quality wood. Sorry. I think most feel the same as I do (that ordered). Danny, Lynn, Ben, Ricky, etc.? Check with Jim also & see if any others are backing out. :ohmy:
Jeff   :guitar

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 28, 2009, 01:19:54 AM
Dragon1952- I think as far as all that ordered are concerned, & Larrivee, the run is done & more would be no fun. Some squeezed in @ the end after the orders were closed. Not to be a party-pooper, but I think all that ordered by the deadline are those that got in. No more of these special guitars should be made. It's like jumping on the boat after the fish really start biting. Now that reviews of F-III's are coming in, many are kicking themselves in the -CENSORED- for not getting in. Apparently, if you check the new threads, there is an IS/HOG up for sale due to the economy & who knows what else might happen. Don't mean to sound spiteful or mean, but if you didn't go for it @ first you're probably out of luck. Not to say that Larrivee might now decide to offer an LS-03; I doubt it & they wouldn't have the same quality wood. Sorry. I think most feel the same as I do (that ordered). Danny, Lynn, Ben, Ricky, etc.? Check with Jim also & see if any others are backing out. :ohmy:Jeff   :guitar

The Martin UMGF forum guitar was available by order for a long time and might still be.  You could order it from any Martin dealer.  It was not a one-time deal.  I think that the FIII is a one-shot deal, but I would have no problems if Larrivee offered it on special order through Jim @ Trinity or any other quaility dealer. 

Spread the good news, why not?

I've been looking for "THE GUITAR" for a long time and I hope my up coming all Hog F3 will be the one.  It is difficult to find that special guitar that sings to your soul. If this guitar turns out to be the "ONE" for many of us, I hope Larrivee makes it available to anyone who wants it. 

I didn't order this guitar because it was the Forum 3 guitar, I ordered because the people here know what they are talking about and what they wanted in a guitar, which doesn't seem to be the typical guitar available to the masses. It was, and it is, what I want also. I want a smallish guitar with a warm big sound that feels and sounds alive when you play it.  I hope this is the one............ I really can't wait to get my hands on her  :winkin:

david

iDavid, If my All Mahogany OM 12 fret is any example, you should get just what you are looking for. 
I am not a fan of Elixer strings,  but that OM really loves the Nanowebs.       :beer

Hello all, happy to say I am one of the fortunate ones to secure one of the surplus FIII's and I am delighted.  Not concerned about the numbering or lack of numbering, but very stoked about getting an awesome guitar.  Looking forward to picking it up at Larrivee, I live in the Vancouver area, of course after all the original 78 receive theirs. Got an IS MH, they all look beautiful from the pictures.  I have L 03R, and I believe this will not only have a different feel but a complementary sound to the L 03R.  I feel very fortunate to be able to get one, thank you to Jim and all those originally in the project to make it happen.  Hope to report nothing but bliss once I get it.

Ray

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 28, 2009, 01:19:54 AM
Dragon1952- I think as far as all that ordered are concerned, & Larrivee, the run is done & more would be no fun. Some squeezed in @ the end after the orders were closed. Not to be a party-pooper, but I think all that ordered by the deadline are those that got in. No more of these special guitars should be made. It's like jumping on the boat after the fish really start biting. Now that reviews of F-III's are coming in, many are kicking themselves in the -CENSORED- for not getting in. Apparently, if you check the new threads, there is an IS/HOG up for sale due to the economy & who knows what else might happen. Don't mean to sound spiteful or mean, but if you didn't go for it @ first you're probably out of luck. Not to say that Larrivee might now decide to offer an LS-03; I doubt it & they wouldn't have the same quality wood. Sorry. I think most feel the same as I do (that ordered). Danny, Lynn, Ben, Ricky, etc.? Check with Jim also & see if any others are backing out. :ohmy:
Jeff   :guitar

I think you misunderstood. There are "extra" guitars....10 of them.....hence the name of this topic? (More Forum III Guitars Available)    :whistling:
I was just wondering why the "extra" 10 couldn't have had some kind of secondary numbering system. BTW, there's already one of the "extra"  IS/MH with my name on it.......and possibly even a 'numbered' one if things go right  :winkin:

BREAKING NEWS!

Just emailed Jim Holler and he provided the following updated list. Apparently, there were a few more than the original 10 made that were quoted in the first list. So this is the current updated list of Forum IIIs that are available:

LS03MT            2
LS03MT HB      1  but on hold
LS03                 3
LS03RHB          2
LS03RHB Lefty 2

As usual, please contact Jim for further information or to place your order. Also, I should note that a deposit is required to reserve your guitar just like in the big round of Forum IIIs.

Kinnez,

Congratulations on getting one, and on being able to pick it up at the factory. 

You are in for a treat!

Matt


Hey Lynda.Thanks for the update.  That sounds great. 

Quote from: kinnez on March 28, 2009, 02:32:46 AM
Hello all, happy to say I am one of the fortunate ones to secure one of the surplus FIII's and I am delighted.  Not concerned about the numbering or lack of numbering, but very stoked about getting an awesome guitar.  Looking forward to picking it up at Larrivee, I live in the Vancouver area, of course after all the original 78 receive theirs. Got an IS MH, they all look beautiful from the pictures.  I have L 03R, and I believe this will not only have a different feel but a complementary sound to the L 03R.  I feel very fortunate to be able to get one, thank you to Jim and all those originally in the project to make it happen.  Hope to report nothing but bliss once I get it.

Ray

:thumbsup - congratulations Ray

Misunderstood the name of the topic. Sounded like "maybe make 10 more" to me (the tone). I never heard in all of the posts from day one of this project that 10 more were being built, & now apparently more. Thought it was a limited run, thus the pressure to get your orders in by 1/2/09. If there was no rush, why the cutoff date? I have no regrets, just thought it was limited by time. Why else would people comment about "2 more squeezing in @ the last moment"? Not my words. Others posted comments about that. My feeling is those that got in @ the deadline, got in. That was how it all sounded. A "custom run with 3 wood options". Obviously, the fewer, the more unique & more attention to detail, as has been mentioned by those who received theirs. That's just MHOP. Obviously other's feel different. Would you rather have a "limited custom run guitar" or one with an open end? I see your point that it might make no difference, but I think that's mainly those that didn't order. So many are jumping on the order that can't keep his because of this sucky economy (posted yesterday).
Why would Danny want #1 & Ricky the last if it wasn't a closed run? Still baffles me. Don't mean to take something away from someone, especially something this special. As I said, they might bring back an LS-03, but w/o the I/S. Would become part of their standard offerings. Why they stopped the "J" series, I'll never know. Had a '94 J-09 & it was an awesome sounding instrument. Got GAS & parted ways. Mistake. LOL!   :thumb
Jeff   :guitar

Its very common to have some extra parts/components left over after a limited production run.  This tends to happen when a few of the products had to get redone/restarted due to very high quality standards.  It sounds like they ran a few extra in case issues arose.  I don't have an issue with them being sold off to people on this Forum especially after we have tortured the people who didn't order one with all of our pictures and gushing posts.   :bgrin: :bgrin: :bgrin: :bgrin:

I'm actually happy that a few lucky people got a nice surprise opportunity to buy one of these guitars.  I think its better that Larrivee has offered these extra guitars to Forum members vs. selling them off to dealers.  I certainly wouldn't support having the extras chopped into firewood.  That would be awful...

Peace.

Jordan.

And the so called "extras" won't be individually numbered, so it still maintains the integrity of the original intent (to a high degree anyway). As has been stated, the "extra" were started in case there were problems with any of the original 78 that might have developed during production, so it's not 'open-ended'. Not sure how often stuff happens during a build where they have to scrap a guitar, but maybe they also anticipated a few more people wanting one also. Personally, I was new to the forum and didn't even know about this until after the deadline had passed. Not sure how I would have felt about extras if I had got in on the original order, but I was fortunate to just pick up Richard's #76, so I guess I do have an opinion now........and I say "scrap 'em all!"  :angry: No just kidding  :humour: .....  :whistling: ......as long as they don't go over 100 in count anyway  :winkin:

Jordon & dragon, I stand corrected & agree with your opinions. As long as the "xtras" go to Forum members, that's cool. Like you said dragon, as long as they don't go over 100.... & they won't be #'d anyway!  :thumb
Jeff   :guitar

In response to your post in the For Sale area.....no you weren't taken as a jerk.  Just a 'concerned consumer'  :winkin:

  More will be made, we are the "Advertisement" for them. They will show up at "12th Fret" and other dealers as limited runs. They will just be called something other than F-III

danny

If thats true, then I hope they are substantially different, and much more expensive, or I will be more than a bit peeved, and less inclined to participate in future "special Forum guitars".

Tad

   Well they had made these before in limited quantities, just not with IS, MH tops and 3 microdots on the 12th fret.
     I've always thought that this would inspire the LS return to the Larrivee line up.

danny

I also hoped it would inspire the return of the LS to the regular line.

Dragon, thanks for making me feel a little better. I'm just getting jumpy & antsy waiting for mine to come. I'm even thinking about calling Jim & see if I can trade my OM-05 for a rosewood model. Unfortunately, I haven't played ANY F-III, so don't & won't know if I'd be making the right move until my IS/HOG comes.
Any comments? Danny, you have the same wood combo. Lynda, You have the one I'm thinking about getting. Any help, please? :?
Jeff  :guitar

Quote from: dragon1952 on March 28, 2009, 12:48:12 PM
As has been stated, the "extra" were started in case there were problems with any of the original 78 that might have developed during production, so it's not 'open-ended'. Not sure how often stuff happens during a build where they have to scrap a guitar

It happens. Take vancouver southpaw for example.  He ordered a lefty, but they built on right handed instead,.  The righty is now and"extra" and they have built him a sweet lefty to make up for it.  They built an extra lh rosewood/italian spruce too.  Larrivee gave me the option of which one to take, and the other one is now an "extra".  It gives them a bit of a comfort zone, and is a nice added bonus to those that did not get on board, for whatever reason, before the original cut off.

I do support the cut off too.  The extras should not be numbered in my opinion, to keep the integrity of the 'limited run" intact.  If there were a lefty available in IS/hog, I would have to think very hard about it.  Even though it would not be a numbered F-3, all of the same care that went into the limited run is in the extra ones.  And that, I think, is what it is about.  If you can, I highly suggest getting on board.  I can't see an LS-03 with the italian spruce making it into a production guitar again.  I think it'll be in the higher series, and likely not in an LS body.  My opinion only though.

 [/quote] Danny, you have the same wood combo. Lynda, You have the one I'm thinking about getting. Any help, please? :?
Jeff  :guitar
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          Jeff I have had 6 RW Larrivees and 1 maple until this MH F-III and I really am just amazed with the immaculate tones coming out, so for me no need for another F-III at all.

danny

Jeff, I have to say that I don't think you can go wrong with a Forum III numbered or not. As for the rosewood, well I LOVE rosewood and just adore Bella. The tones in this guitar are very different to the tones in Holly, the guitar. Hard to describe. I'm an enabler, so I'm gonna say go for it. The Italian Spruce is just amazing. Good luck.

I'm mainly worried about the same body style, even though they'd be different woods. My OM-05 is very versatile & I only flatpick. The sounds I get out of my OM are amazing, but now I wonder if the difference in the LS with different body woods would be as great. I swore my F-III would be my last guitar I buy, now this. I think I had too many beans with my dinner because I've got wicked GAS right about now. Another problem is what Jim would give me for my OM. I'm sure I'd have to make up a fair piece of $ to get one from him. My OM is almost mint, the only problem being a little bit of glue showing (if you look hard) where the neck was reset. When it came in from Larrivee, there was a gap on the heel side of the neck, where I could slide a piece of paper in about1/4"in. Got an R.A. within a week & had it fixed. It's fine now. I sold my Epi, owe $400 more on the F-III after subtracting that, trying to sell my camera to incognito's girlfriend, plus 3 watches, & Polk speakers to any takers. I'm getting desperate. My wife would have a s*** fit if I even bring this up to her, being in our financial situation. I have $ in my savings, just have to put it back. Now I'm in more of a quagmire than this post started.
Thanks Danny & Lynda for the answers & enabling me! :arrow
Jeff   :guitar

What's another $1100 or so....that's like, what.....75 pizzas? Pfftttt!  :rolleye:

Hi,

Late in the game, but how can I inquire about one of the Forum III guitars? 

Quote from: Pounder on March 29, 2009, 08:06:06 AM
Hi,

Late in the game, but how can I inquire about one of the Forum III guitars? 

I assume you mean how to purchase one. answer. contact Jim Holler at Trinity Guitars. JimHoller@TrinityGuitars.com

for details on the guitar, there is a specs thread http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=24123.0

Thanks!!! (I'm excited - a 12-fretter.....)

sc

Jim, did you get to my email yet? I haven't mentioned a word to my wife, so it's between us as of now. Won't last. :wave
Jeff   :guitar

Somebody, please buy the extra lefty.

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 29, 2009, 01:24:47 AM
I'm mainly worried about the same body style, even though they'd be different woods. My OM-05 is very versatile & I only flatpick. The sounds I get out of my OM are amazing, but now I wonder if the difference in the LS with different body woods would be as great. I swore my F-III would be my last guitar I buy, now this. I think I had too many beans with my dinner because I've got wicked GAS right about now. Another problem is what Jim would give me for my OM. I'm sure I'd have to make up a fair piece of $ to get one from him. My OM is almost mint, the only problem being a little bit of glue showing (if you look hard) where the neck was reset. When it came in from Larrivee, there was a gap on the heel side of the neck, where I could slide a piece of paper in about1/4"in. Got an R.A. within a week & had it fixed. It's fine now. I sold my Epi, owe $400 more on the F-III after subtracting that, trying to sell my camera to incognito's girlfriend, plus 3 watches, & Polk speakers to any takers. I'm getting desperate. My wife would have a s*** fit if I even bring this up to her, being in our financial situation. I have $ in my savings, just have to put it back. Now I'm in more of a quagmire than this post started.
Thanks Danny & Lynda for the answers & enabling me! :arrow
Jeff   :guitar

Jeff,

When I first saw Danny's hog/IS, I remember admiring the back of it. If I did not know any better, I would have sworn it was a one-piece back.
If I knew back in December what I know now, I probably would have ordered a hog/IS.

For sure, the FG III more than satisfies all that I'm looking for in a guitar - the size, the sound, the feel - it's just, I couldn't believe it, Sooooo Perfect !!!

I, myself said, I would like all three tonewood combos.  Man, I'd give up my Taylor, OM-40, and OO to be able to do that.

But, the brain for a change is ruling over the heart.   What really would I do with 3 FG IIIs when I'm already so very satisfied with my one FG III?

I played it leading about one dozen people I hardly know, they would normally very shy and would not sing much.  I can tell that they are appreciating the sound coming out of my FG III and the relative ease that I played it with feelings (I was one with my guitar). The songs were new to them - yet, I believe there was "magic" or shall we say, a connection between the sweet sound of my FG III which prompted these people to gladly sing along !!!

It is not too often I get that connection with the people I'm leading in singing. When I was playing my FG III with softer moderate strumming, the sound that I heard reminded me of a brand new piano which has still brand new felts on its hammers hitting the strings.

Even though mine is rosewood, when strummed moderately, it is not ringy and sharp sounding like my OO-09.  It actually sounds 'woody' - reminds me of my Taylor Walnut b&s 410E - a dreadnaught (did I spell that right?  got used to just saying "dread").

Long story short, for now, I'm happy with my one FG III.   Thanks also to Lynda for emailing my wife convincing her that I need a second FG III.

I won't talk about how my wife responded to that heroic enabling act. Unless, I have a liquid 1100usd, I won't be getting another FG III any time soon.

ricky

Quote from: rpm60912 on March 29, 2009, 11:01:50 PM
Jeff,

When I first saw Danny's hog/IS, I remember admiring the back of it. If I did not know any better, I would have sworn it was a one-piece back.
If I knew back in December what I know now, I probably would have ordered a hog/IS.

For sure, the FG III more than satisfies all that I'm looking for in a guitar - the size, the sound, the feel - it's just, I couldn't believe it, Sooooo Perfect !!!

I, myself said, I would like all three tonewood combos.  Man, I'd give up my Taylor, OM-40, and OO to be able to do that.

But, the brain for a change is ruling over the heart.   What really would I do with 3 FG IIIs when I'm already so very satisfied with my one FG III?

I played it leading about one dozen people I hardly know, they would normally very shy and would not sing much.  I can tell that they are appreciating the sound coming out of my FG III and the relative ease that I played it with feelings (I was one with my guitar). The songs were new to them - yet, I believe there was "magic" or shall we say, a connection between the sweet sound of my FG III which prompted these people to gladly sing along !!!

It is not too often I get that connection with the people I'm leading in singing. When I was playing my FG III with softer moderate strumming, the sound that I heard reminded me of a brand new piano which has still brand new felts on its hammers hitting the strings.

Even though mine is rosewood, when strummed moderately, it is not ringy and sharp sounding like my OO-09.  It actually sounds 'woody' - reminds me of my Taylor Walnut b&s 410E - a dreadnaught (did I spell that right?  got used to just saying "dread").

Long story short, for now, I'm happy with my one FG III.   Thanks also to Lynda for emailing my wife convincing her that I need a second FG III.

I won't talk about how my wife responded to that heroic enabling act. Unless, I have a liquid 1100usd, I won't be getting another FG III any time soon.

ricky

ricky it is good to here you enjoying your F-III, I know when I heard you play at Mike's place I thought that the RW/IS was the right choice for your style of playing. Now all you need is a pick up.

danny

   Bottom line with me, do I keep a mahogany OM-05 & F-III IS/HOG (plus my trusty L-10; feeds my RW need) or do I go for 2 guitars of the same body style, just different woods. Is the difference in sound that noticeable? Would I still be married next month? All things to ponder. I'm just feeding into the IS frenzy the Forum has created.
   Joseph emailed me & said why don't I keep my OM & ask Jim to swap my FG for a non-numbered RW. I thought about that, still am, just don't know what the heck to do.Wouldn't be the first time I had 2 of the same body style, just different woods ( 2 Flammang OM's, RW & HOG). Just haven't heard back from Jim yet to let me know if he wants my OM-05. I checked & he has none in stock, new or used. Might be a good sign. I don't know what he'd give me on trade. I did well with my OM-03SP I gave him towards the F-III I ordered.
   Someone please guide me to the light that's @ the end of the tunnel. It's starting to dim!
     Jeff   :guitar

Well brother, Jeff. We don't even have our IS/Hog FGs yet and each of us is considering a rosewood model. This is either great minds think alike or mad hysteria.

Logic says you must keep your L-10 Custom. And if body size isn't an issue for you you really don't need that rosewood FG.

Besides your IS/Hog FG is going to have the special neck with the position dots where you can see them. So I can't see you trading that in. The OM-05 decision needs to wait for the LS-03 before you trade it off at a financial loss.

I have been successfully resisting any contact with Jim regarding a surplus LS-03R since I have two great spruce and rosewood Larris with my LSV-11 and LV-10. My hidden weakness is the desire for an SD-50. So there you have it. GAS will always be with us. My advice to you is to play the hand you're being dealt.

Norman

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 30, 2009, 02:16:17 AM
   Bottom line with me, do I keep a mahogany OM-05 & F-III IS/HOG (plus my trusty L-10; feeds my RW need) or do I go for 2 guitars of the same body style, just different woods. Is the difference in sound that noticeable? Would I still be married next month? All things to ponder. I'm just feeding into the IS frenzy the Forum has created.
   Joseph emailed me & said why don't I keep my OM & ask Jim to swap my FG for a non-numbered RW. I thought about that, still am, just don't know what the heck to do.Wouldn't be the first time I had 2 of the same body style, just different woods ( 2 Flammang OM's, RW & HOG). Just haven't heard back from Jim yet to let me know if he wants my OM-05. I checked & he has none in stock, new or used. Might be a good sign. I don't know what he'd give me on trade. I did well with my OM-03SP I gave him towards the F-III I ordered.
   Someone please guide me to the light that's @ the end of the tunnel. It's starting to dim!
     Jeff   :guitar

I'm way out of my league to even comment on the sound difference between 2 FG IIIs --- IS/hog vs IS/rw

I'm told that I made the right choice with the rosewood because of my playing style which is strumming. If I were recording or doing more fingerstyle, I hear the IS/hog is better for that.

I would be inclined to hold on to your OM-05..... wait for your FG III - IS/hog --- you may be pleasantly surprised that your GASing for a FG III rosewood would be more than satisfied by ONE FG III IS/hog.

You will have an OM, a LS in your FG III and your L-10.... you've got a good variety of the body size covered in all the staple tonewoods.

ricky

Quote from: GeeNorm on March 30, 2009, 02:37:13 AM
I have been successfully resisting any contact with Jim regarding a surplus LS-03R since I have two great spruce and rosewood Larris with my LSV-11 and LV-10. My hidden weakness is the desire for an SD-50. So there you have it. GAS will always be with us.

Brother, you already have Larrivees in hog and rosewood very well covered. Why another rosewood?

Norman, what you really need to complete your acoustic guitar collection is a highly figured Hawaiian Koa b&s made by another respected American guitar maker with a proprietary pickup system that's one of the best in the business with a huskier voice than the FG III and do a noble and honorable act of giving a friend of yours a chance to add an IS/hog with the perfect size git for a man of smaller stature.

:humour:

ricky

Quote from: rpm60912 on March 30, 2009, 03:27:07 AM
Brother, you already have Larrivees in hog and rosewood very well covered. Why another rosewood?
... ricky

Exactly what I decided and what I said about the LS-03R to Jeff. But Ricky, the SD-50 is mahogany not rosewood, yielding two each of the primary tonewoods. Of course your T T T T aylor Koa would add a new category and disrupt the balance, opening the door for more. Need I mention maple and lacewood?  :drool:

It a good thing that dreaming can balance GAS!

Norman

Nothing wrong with having 2 or more of the same body style as long as there is something different about each of them...  :tongue:

So, Randy. What's the opposite of "got ya?" You got me!

The only real limit to GAS is finances, making me a conservationist.  :crying: But I am thinking Jeff and Ricky are exploring the conservationist cause along with me.  :wave

Norman

I would be happier if I could get my IS/Hog with a cutaway, just so it wouldn't look the same as Bella, but I really didn't think that was going to be possible. I am just happy to have the opportunity to get a second and one with the purfling which is so beautiful to look at.

Ricky & Norman, I'm a picker, a sinner (sometimes), & a flatpicker grinner (only).  :humour: Can't fingerpick due to my dysfunctional playing (backwards). I hear Lynda comment on Bella, know how good my OM sounds, but am feeding into the IS/RW sounds I've been hearing about. How can anyone resist? Yes, my L-10 feeds my RW needs (I'm poetic tonight!), but come on, won't having 2 IS LS's be the ultimate @ not much $ put in? Jim did me well on my OM-03SP trade; hoping he'll take pity & do better after all the $ he's made on this deal! :humour:
I'm just getting like my dog gets: overexcited & hard to calm down!
Someone help!
Jeffy

Sounds like you need congratulations instead of help, Jeff.

Trust me, I understand the excitement. Buy the LS-03R and hold it close. I would surely keep that L-10 though!

Guess it isn't enabling when your friend already has his heart set.  :thumbsup

Like I told Randy earlier my current financial situation has turned me into a conservationist, so no LS-03R in my future, or dreams.

Norman

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 30, 2009, 10:51:55 PM

I'm just getting like my dog gets: overexcited & hard to calm down!
Someone help!
Jeffy

"Sit Jeff! STAY!"

The L-10 will never leave me. Since I'm getting an IS/HOG & the OM-05 is HOG also & the IS/RW sounds to be a thing of beauty, I think I can live with parting with the OM. Can get another in the future. Can't get an LS-03 IS/RW then. Norman, I'm going to listen to you. I'm in the same boat financially. Might have to sell my coin collection now. But it just sits in the closet, unlike a Forum git would
Thanks!
Jeff
Penner, throw me atreat & it might work. Doubt it.

Jeff, you know we're the biggest bunch of enablers here! :roll Just don't want to see the opportunity to buy a second pass you by. Regret is a lousy feeling.

Lynda, I PM'd you with my bad news. Jim has only 1 RW LS available, with alot of inquiries into it. He would rather do cash than a trade, & I can't blame him. Now I have to see if ANYONE OUT THERE would do a direct trade for my OM-05. I don't care if it has HB or not, just RW. I'm going to put it in the sell/trade section, but I'm not holding my breath. Anyone with 2 RW's? Anyone? Please consider this once in a lifetime trade. The OM-05 IS a wonderful guitar, just if you're looking for a different body style & wood, this would be your choice. Just had it setup after the winter & not getting alot of play time until lately.Have a service contract with Sam Ash, might as well use it! I'll lose it once I sell the OM anyway. It's near mint or mint & hasn't been played in yet. Wonderful deal! Any takers? :crying:
Jeff   :guitar

And Lynda, that's like the pot calling the kettle "black"!  :humour:
Jeff   :guitar

You might not want to have 2 F-III's if you like 00's. You'll want to start saving.

I'm just going to have to wait, as some have said, 'till my F-III is in my hands. If totally blown away, it will end there. If I don't hear "piano-like" sounds, I'm going to GAS for an IS/RW. THE best sounding guitar I've ever heard was a Flammang OM with a mesquite body. Yes, mesquite. It sounded like a harp when lightly strummed. Blew me away. David said he had one more set left to build one for me, but it turns out he decided not since it was too knotty. I think I could have gotten over that, but he's the professional.
Jeff   :guitar

If there are any left, I sincerely recommend you to pick up one of these guitars!!

these things are amazing..

whether you get all hog , IS/hog or IS/RW.. you won't regret it..

I dont mean to be a party pooper on the extra FGIIIs being available but I wonder if its premature to be selling them. Maybe I'm a little cynical of the delivery services but what happens if a FGIII gets lost, destroyed or damaged in transit before it reaches the buyer.  Isn't that what the extras were intended to cover...in case something happened to one of the original 78?  I hope everyone gets theirs delivered safe and sound and fully intact but there is the possibility that might not happen.  I've seen the way the shipper/delivery service company's throw packages around.  Just my two cents.

Quote from: dazdarren on April 01, 2009, 02:06:17 AM
I've seen the way the shipper/delivery service company's throw packages around.  Just my two cents.

I notice the two large tire marks on jeffrey's guitar box.  at least they were the sidewalls, not the tread that was showing! :humour:

Quote from: BluesMan1 on March 31, 2009, 10:16:39 PM
I'm just going to have to wait, as some have said, 'till my F-III is in my hands. If totally blown away, it will end there. If I don't hear "piano-like" sounds, I'm going to GAS for an IS/RW.

My guess is that you'll be blown away by your IS/hog. You would not believe how satisfied you'll be!

I somehow can't imagine how a L-10 cannot deliver what a FG3 IS/rw can & then some; except for the LS perfect fit for smaller folks like me. The depth in sound of the FG3 belies its petite size.

Wait. GAS too will pass. If it persists, there will be used ones in the FS section.

ricky

The extras aren't shipping until the 78 are shipped is my understanding.

   Lynda's correct. Spoke with Jim yesterday & he said even though he had lots of people interested in the ONE IS/RWHB, he was going to wait 'till all of the F-III's were completed. Ricky, probably for the same reason you stated & also to get the "high priority" order taken care of first. I think he's thinking of all of us that didn't get theirs yet & sincerely wants to put them in ours hands. He really is a nice, sincere person, which is just my impression from phone conversations.
   Also Ricky, I'm not too sure one will pop up in the "for sale" area & if it does, it will get jumped on VERY quickly! I'm about to call him about that Larri SD-50 that he's had for a while. Slot-head, 12 to the body, SB gloss finish, just some dings & a small crack repair, which he did himself & describes all that was done. Onlt backlash from that is it's a HOG body, but what a fine body it is!
   I saw a Baden "A' series with a Euro Spruce top & RW body. The '08's are marked down alot, it is an "auditorium" size body, thus small & the closest I'd get to I/S. Most likely, pretty close in sound. Only dingy thing for me is the cutaway is on the wrong side, but I don't play above the twelfe fret too often, unless doing some lead work.
   Anybody have some input on Badens? I know for us Larrivee lovers it's a tricky question, but some honest input would be great! And Ricky, I can't say it too much about the fact that my L-10 is in the top 3 gits I've ever heard or played. That baby will never go! I sat down with George Youngblood for about 2-3 hrs. & planned that guitar out. Wendy was thinking of leaving the business & going back to school @ that time ('93), so I had to act fast to get her to do everything before she decided. As far as body size, be it mine or my gits, I'm 6'6" & really enjoy OM size or around there. Just sits so nicely in my lap & is so easy to play. I'm sure I'll be blown away by my F-III, but just wanted that smaller LS IS/RW. I know it's not too much different than my OM, but it also has the 12 to the body. Makes a big difference, @ least to my ears.The Baden just might fill my needs, @ around the same price.
   There I go again, rambling on. Have to work on posts 5 or less words!
Jeff   :guitar

Hey, Jeff, I live in Texas. We love gushers!!

I'd like to see that SD-50 go to a friend since I can't get it myself. But if you aren't used to being ribbed about your unorthodox playing style you should be. Don't rule out the Baden auditorium. European spruce and rosewood seems to be calling your name,  s o f t l y,   s w e e t l y.

Norman

   Norman, which one are you enabling me on? Always wanted an SD-50, just couldn't afford it. But the Baden seems to fill what I'm looking for: smaller body, Euro (maybe IS,who knows?), & RW. It's deeper than the LS, but has a bigger lower bout also. It's not 12 to the body, but it's a beauty. Have to ask Jim about them & the sound. Sounds like you're familiar with them. What do they sound like? You also seem to know about the SD-50. Don't you have one? Are you telling me to go for the Baden? Remember, I don't finger pick, so I need something that will sound good when strummed, not too heavily. I don't beat guitars. The only thing about the SD-50 is the condition. I take care of my guitars so anally it's almost obsessive. I put a cloth on the upper bout where my arm comes in contact so I don't leave any sweat marks. Every case has a cloth for that & a smaller one to wipe down the neck & strings when I'm done. I obsess alot & am a creature of habbit. Does that make me bad? :humour:
Please let me know about your bottom line opinions. I treasure them! :thumb
Jeff   :guitar

Also Norman, $ is tight, so I'm hoping for a direct trade for the Baden or on the SD, putting the rest on my balance for my F-III. I'm selling so much stuff; Dave's (ncognito) girlfiend wants my camera & the 3 high-end watches also are looking good to be sold. I'm going on-line & pricing out my coin collection later for more $, just sits there anyway. I THINK I'd get more pleasure out of a guitar than those. Who knows, by the weekend I might be able to pay off the F-III, trade the OM, & end up getting both of the gits I mentioned from Jim. My wife would be so thrilled! :humour:
Jeff   :guitar

Norman, I stopped @ George Youngbloods shop, while the guitar selling end is run by "acousticmusic.org" (Brian Wolf). Played 2 Baden "A" series & was blown away! Both had Euro tops with RW bodies. Simple ,yet great playing & sounding. Now I just have to convince Jim to deal with me. Give him a call also, will you?, & ask him to treat me kindly! :humour:
Talk later.
Jeff   :guitar

Jeff,

I've been out of the house all day. But yes, given your criteria the Baden should really be considered. Especially now that you have played one and like it, and since you prefer unblemished guitars for your collection, the new old stock Baden (in your choice of woods) is almost a no-brainer.

I only know either of these guitars based on advertising and comments on this forum. The SD-50 could take heavy strumming but I hear is is also very good for finger style aided by the wide nut spacing. Some folks adapt to the wider neck easily, others find it difficult. It would be good if you could also find one of those to play. Since I play my wife's classical I know it wouldn't be a problem for me.

As to influencing Jim, I know you were joking. There is no sway on my part. But I do trust his character and motivation so I believe your dealings with him will be positive.

Now if I could just get someone to buy me that used SD-50.  :whistling:  My own stab at wish it were true humor.
I know ... you buy it too and then sell it to me when I get another job?

Whatever you decide, or if you have more questions, you might want to start another thread to update us, so as not to highjack this one.

Norman

I played the used SD-50 @ Trinity Guitars last Wednesday night and I am amazed that no one has pounced on it yet. This is an exceptional value for the money and the buyer won't cry (as much) when they put the second ding in it. Whenever I get GAS pains, I just pull out my current guitars and count my blessings.

Ironically, I was in Tennessee over the weekend and since Cider Mill Music in Clinton was closed by the time I got there, the only guitar store I made it into was a Guitar Center. I went to their high end room and saw a number of high priced and shop worn new guitars including several Taylors, Gibsons and Martins with various scratches, gouges and nicks. At the same time, the "sale" price for these guitars was higher than I would have paid from other dealers. I did walk out with a music stand that was 60% off but what can you do to one of those? Overall, the experience reinforced my commitment to saving my big ticket guitar purchases to independent dealers.

I do have to confess that the nicest sounding guitar I played @ Trinity last week was the bent top classical that Jim built with the additional sound hole on the upper bout and on the stock front, the L-09QM 12 string was outstanding too.

   Norman,spoke to Jim earlier & he said the trade would be doable. I just have to send him pics of my OM, of course, & he is holding the Baden for me. He said he was really surprised @ what a difference there was between the Sitka & Euro spruce, the Euro sounding so much better. Like you said before, I've had comments made about playing the way i do, from "how do you do that" to "why didn't you ever learn the right way"? I guess this is the right way for me. Now I have to get the lighting just right on my digital camera. I'll try some of your ideas. I never  tried putting a piece of tape over the flash to lessen or diffuse it. Jim will get some nice picks now, but it's harder to photo a gloss finish than satin. You have to play one of these guitars, especially the "A" series. No flash, simple rosette, no dots on the fingerboard, & a gorgeous sound. Now I can't forget to have Jim puts neck dots on the opposite side!
   If I have the xtra $, I'll pick up the SD-50 & hold it for you. I had a '47 Epi Zenith Archtop that was in real good shape, but still had a few dings. Adds character, especially to something that old. I've had other used gits that had dings & lived with it, but they didn't get more after i owned them!
   I'm not kidding about the SD. If I get it & I'm not glued to it (still dig the slot-head, s.b. finish, 12 to the body, volute,etc.), I'll sell it to you when you're ready. Or I'm ready. Whichever comes first!
   Good thing come in threes: my F-III, the Baden, & the SD (?). Cross your fingers.
Jeff   :guitar

OK Norman, my behind is still smarting from that tactful spanking about the "highjacking" comment. I might have to rethink my comment about buying the SD-50 also & holding it for you! :humour:
I've just been trying, as you know, to get the last IS/RW from Jim, but I wasn't quick enough. I'll be satisfied soon & I promise I won't post on this thread unless provoked.
Jeff   :guitar
Why open a thread on my woes & about the fantastic Badan on a Larrivee forum? I'll hold off. :wave

Jeff.  :crying:

Let me use one of my memory's vocabulary words. In the angst of limited supply and fresh stirred demand the surplus Forum Guitars have baked up a batch of lust cookies for all of us to chew on. OK, I'd better cut out the cookie metafore before the oven gets too hot.

It helps me that all the LS-03Rs are gone. Now I don't have that temptation to deal with.

And, friend Jeff, there is an Other Guitar Makers Forum right here among us, so post away! I own an Ovation and two Takamines in addition to my Larrivees. Sometimes bang for buck yields to pop for pennies for me!

Say, I could win the lottery this week. The first five responders better get their requests into me now!  :roll

Norman

This was the email update I got from Jim this morning:

Lynda, I have been a busy guy. I have not been on the forum all week. I bet some folks are getting the guitar from me today. All but one of the first group is shipped or shipping today. I expect 8 more today or tomorrow and 20 will be shipped to me today. Back to the work bench!

Jim's working up a storm. Poor guy. I think he needs a vacation after this!

Quote from: lyric_girl on April 02, 2009, 11:23:17 AM
This was the email update I got from Jim this morning:

Lynda, I have been a busy guy. I have not been on the forum all week. I bet some folks are getting the guitar from me today. All but one of the first group is shipped or shipping today. I expect 8 more today or tomorrow and 20 will be shipped to me today. Back to the work bench!

Jim's working up a storm. Poor guy. I think he needs a vacation after this!

Jim emailed me on Monday and said he expected to get my guitar this week... I received my guitar from Jim via Fedex today.  He has to be working some pretty ridiculous hours this week.

Hey, I might get mine soon! But then again, since it's a "custom" order, they might put some extra love into it! If so, I can wait a day or so more! :humour:
Jeff   :guitar

Mine shipped today (from Jim)! :nana_guitar

And Tuffy's FIII caught me again, now as GOTM.  Now I have to sqinut and login so I don't see it.
Only a few more days before I see a real one...MINE.

Jim's Update of Today:

"Got another 9 today that I was not expecting! 20 more expected next week Friday. I am keeping up and getting the set ups done before the next batch comes in. I should have all 8 that arrived Thursday complete along with the 9 from today before the 20 arrive next week. The folks at FedEx are looking forward to my daily visits with 5 or 6 guitars. I have not had time to hop on the forum to see the feedback. Maybe Sunday. Hope all is well. Feel free to post this as an update. Let folks know I am alive and well and enjoying talking to each of them when there guitar arrives. I am enjoying each guitar as I work on it. Mine is here but alas remains mostly an orphan."

I wrote Jim and asked of any of these would be cutaways as I I'm finding out as I work on fingerpicking that a 12 fret is more constrictive for me when finger picking than flat picking.. If One of those sneaks in that we know about, please mention it. Thanks.

Quote from: flatlander on April 03, 2009, 07:31:51 PM
I wrote Jim and asked of any of these would be cutaways as I I'm finding out as I work on fingerpicking that a 12 fret is more constrictive for me when finger picking than flat picking.. If One of those sneaks in that we know about, please mention it. Thanks.

Matt, unfortunately there are no cutaways. Believe me, I would have grabbed one myself.

Hello everyone,

Congrats on your new Fourum III guitars.  Does anyone know if there are any left?  I tried Jim but he's obviously a bit preoccupied right now so I'm not sure if there are any officially not spoken for any longer? 

Quote from: wrightdawg on April 04, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
Hello everyone,

Congrats on your new Fourum III guitars.  Does anyone know if there are any left?  I tried Jim but he's obviously a bit preoccupied right now so I'm not sure if there are any officially not spoken for any longer? 

wrightdawg
Be patient and something will come up.    :thumb

   Jim gave me the impression when I sope to him Wed. that the list of those who wanted them was growing every day. I really don't think you'll see too many, if any, for sale by owners unless it's due to the economy! :crying:
   Lynn, still waiting to hear back from Jim after sending him the pics. I mentioned maybe working out something wiith the SD-50 (a package deal?), but I have to see what my funds are by next week. I didn;t forget about you!
     Jeff   :guitar

I will ask Jim for an updated list of what is still available today.

This is Jim's update today:

I am in a holding pattern to wait for John to release the final batch of extra guitars. Five off the original list are sold. John asked me to stop selling them until he has all of the original 78 completed. I am taking names via email for a waiting list of the people who want one. I have an email from Larrivee sales about this but have not taken the time yet to review it. As long as I have Forum guitars here to work on, that is the priority!
    To be clear about the extra guitars
1) They will have the forum Label, but no series number.
2) I will do the bone saddle and set up on all the ones that come here.
3) There will not be a forum III hat. This will only be for the first 78 who ordered before the deadline. The order quantity for the hats precludes a small lot order.