Always Shop Guitar Center!

[C-10-4-me]

I see where GC is opening up a store in Dayton Oh. which is a short distance from me.
I've got to go in there just to see what all the fuss is about.

[jeremy3220]

Here is an interesting point:

If a stand up comic does a routine where he/she make fun of people, politicians, government etc, we all laugh and applaud.  But if someone finds humour in a guitar store and the way they conduct business, we quickly shoot him down.  Funny isn't it.... why is that?  There is humour in most things in our life, but I guess it's depends on how it is presented.     :huh:

Just thought I would throw that out there.....

NewStrings

yeh, it didn't make me laugh. your analogy isn't analogous to this situation. A comic presents things for a different reason(to make people laugh). Stuco wasn't doing a comedy routine. And we don't "ALL laugh and applaud" at a certain comedy routines, I'm sure some disagree and are even offended.
And "shooting someone down" is a strong phrase to use for someone having a different opinion/view. It's not like anyone called stuco an Ovation loving troll.

[ronmac]

I can see some humour in stuco's post. On the other hand I don't see any humour at all in some of the post replies.

My blood begins to boil when "freedom of speech" and "I can say it because I can get away with it" is played as some sort of trump card that is supposed to remove all personal responsibility for action. There is nothing wrong with a healthy debate on any of these issues. In fact, I like to see it because it demonstrates our diversity of experiences and views that can benefit all of us, if we take the time to listen.

Thoughtful and respectful disagreement is not a bad thing. Rage and needless personal attack are another thing altogether...

End of rant.

[NewStrings]

Well put Ron, I couldn't have said it any better!!!

NewStrings

[jeremy3220]

"Rage and needless personal attack are another thing altogether..."

I don't remember anyone in a rage or personally attacking anyone.

[ronmac]

Those comments are not specific to this thread. Have a scan through threads of the last week or two and you should see what this reffered to.

[naboz]

I havent been here as often lately, and I hear/see there is a bit of growing pains going on, but I am glad you are here putting in good, rational, and most often kind words, Ron Mac  -_-  (among others, I should add).
I think the core of the Old Crew can weather this storm and stay and be happy...
or just wander off and play guitar instead  :GRN>
So, where is Zac?!

[Sabatini]

A lot of anti-GC post start out "every time I go in there..." So they are at least going into the store. And probably alot of people are buying stuff who "hate" GC.
I rarely go into wally world these days. I feel queezy when I go and it's busy... all those "people"  :WNK>.

Kind of reminds me of a Yogi Berra quote.  "Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded."

[jwsamuel]

My blood begins to boil when "freedom of speech" and "I can say it because I can get away with it" is played as some sort of trump card that is supposed to remove all personal responsibility for action.

I agree 100%, Ron.

When people use the phrase "freedom of speech," they often do not even understand what that phrase means.

All the Constitution says is that the government cannot prevent you from expressing yourself. Nowhere does the Constitution say that you can say whatever you want without consequence or without being held responsible for what you've said.

End of my rant.

Jim

[jwsamuel]

with all the complaining that folks do (including myself) about guitar center, wal*mart, home depot, and other large, soulless, money-grubbin', bottom-feeding, corporate pond scum companies, they are still making money.....lots of it.

That's because so many people will express their political, moral, ethical views but when it comes to taking an action, they go right for the lowest price.

Jim

[Caleb]

That's because so many people will express their political, moral, ethical views but when it comes to taking an action, they go right for the lowest price.

Jim

bingo, jimmy. most of us are all talk and no walk.  :mellow:

[roknroll]

bingo, jimmy. most of us are all talk and no walk.  :mellow:

when I think of shopping at walmart, I don't necessarily think of it as compromising any sort of moral values...living a life that goes against anything corporate isn't exactly a fulfilling way to live a life...it seems pretty small minded if you ask me

[Tycho]

There's something to be said for helping local businesses stay afloat.

[roknroll]

There's something to be said for helping local businesses stay afloat.

That's true, but they need to adjust there prices accordingly, and most of them don't...most family run businesses mark up products pretty rediculously.

[Caleb]

when I think of shopping at walmart, I don't necessarily think of it as compromising any sort of moral values...living a life that goes against anything corporate isn't exactly a fulfilling way to live a life...it seems pretty small minded if you ask me

i care very little about what most ppl believe in, but the fact is that lots of folks simply dont stick by those beliefs very closely. the only way to live fullfilled is to live what you believe in, whatever that may be.

[roknroll]

i care very little about what most ppl believe in, but the fact is that lots of folks simply dont stick by those beliefs very closely. the only way to live fullfilled is to live what you believe in, whatever that may be.

here here...life's to short to worry about "the man" screwing everyone over...whethers it's oil companies, walmart, microshaft...who cares...I know it means nothing in the long run, so why worry.

[Caleb]

here here...life's to short to worry about "the man" screwing everyone over...whethers it's oil companies, walmart, microshaft...who cares...I know it means nothing in the long run, so why worry.

i see your point, but i cant agree with your worldview....seems to fatalistic. to me, everything means something in the long run. everything that is past has made what you see today. and everything we do today will matter tomorrow. just make the choices that are important to you and dont waste your vote. you only get one.

[roknroll]

i see your point, but i cant agree with your worldview....seems to fatalistic. to me, everything means something in the long run. everything that is past has made what you see today. and everything we do today will matter tomorrow. just make the choices that are important to you and dont waste your vote. you only get one.

I'm talking about how life is so short compared to eternity...there are plenty of other important things to direct my concerns...I'm not saying just wait around and do nothing until you die, it's just that I have more important things to think about and deal w/, other than walmart.

[Caleb]

I'm talking about how life is so short compared to eternity...there are plenty of other important things to direct my concerns...I'm not saying just wait around and do nothing until you die, it's just that I have more important things to think about and deal w/, other than walmart.

but what if walmart is actually the devil? 

[roknroll]

but what if walmart is actually the devil? 

then the devil comes up w/ some pretty cheezy disguises.