Cedar or Spruce

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April 20, 2006, 05:46:06 PM
I'd like to take a poll.   :GRN>

This is the best picture available of this distant piece, and as there is some controversy as to the topwood, in your estimation is it cedar or spruce?  many thanks.

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April 20, 2006, 05:49:22 PM #1
Nicely aged SPRUCE.  The orange hue developed with time---this is a vintage Larrivee.

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April 20, 2006, 05:53:59 PM #2
I dunno, looks like mastergrade cedar.  If it's not, then that is the tightest, straightest grained spruce I've ever seen.

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April 20, 2006, 05:55:47 PM #3
Larrivee used red cedar for some tops I believe.
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April 20, 2006, 05:58:13 PM #4
Looks like cedar to me.  Ebony at the top though  :GRN>

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April 20, 2006, 09:03:11 PM #5
My guess is cedar. Rosewood back.
April 21, 2006, 09:28:17 AM #6
Looks a lot like my Cedar topped Morgan.  I'm voting Cedar.
Michael

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April 21, 2006, 12:35:19 PM #7
My vote is spruce. Looks just like my old L.


Ron

April 21, 2006, 12:39:16 PM #8
My guess is cedar.
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April 21, 2006, 01:13:19 PM #9
does cedar ever form the meguliary rays evident in the pic (sp) like spruce? 


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April 21, 2006, 01:46:33 PM #10
Quote from: poki on April 21, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
does cedar ever form the meguliary rays evident in the pic (sp) like spruce? 

Yes!

But I still think it is spruce.  :WNK>
Ron

April 21, 2006, 05:27:13 PM #11
Not much to go by, but I would say spruce.

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April 21, 2006, 05:49:51 PM #12
In my experience nylon stringed guitars have cedar tops.  However I have seen spruce that color, but it clearly is a classical. Beautiful rosette.
April 21, 2006, 06:03:08 PM #13
Quote from: strive2walk on April 21, 2006, 05:49:51 PM
In my experience nylon stringed guitars have cedar tops.  However I have seen spruce that color, but it clearly is a classical. Beautiful rosette.

Welcome to the Forum.

That rosette was used on larrivee steel string guitars for many years. Jean got his start making classical instruments and many of the early appointments spoke to that.

Steel String Spruce!  :WNK> Sorry about the alliteration.
Ron

April 21, 2006, 06:10:31 PM #14
True Ron... but this is a classical.  It's the classical fret board and the strings are nylon. 

Wouldn't surprise me if it were cedar, but tought to tell from the picture.

-josh

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April 21, 2006, 06:37:23 PM #15
:<>OOOPPPSSS :rolleyes:

I was concentrating so hard on the top that I missed the obvious clues that it is a classical.

So, I am revising my alliterated comment to: Soft String Spruce  :WNK>
Ron

April 21, 2006, 06:40:23 PM #16
Hummm, I'm still sticking with SPRUCE.  I'm with Ron on this one.... classical I will agree, but cedar, not necessarily.  As the picture below shows, here is a nice vintage Larrivee classical with a spruce top.  Still say it's awfully hard to tell from the tiny picture of the top supplied.

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April 21, 2006, 06:43:32 PM #17
Ahh yes, I remember having a hand in each of these lovely classicals.  The contraversy over the first piece can be ended by knowing it's western red cedar.  I hope you can all sleep better at night now ^_^.  The piece above this post has a canadian sitka spruce soundboard. 

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April 21, 2006, 06:46:26 PM #18
In case anyone wants to look at the specs for the above guitar, it can be found at:  http://www.12fret.com/used/index.html  Just sroll down to the classical section and you will find this 1974 with European Spruce.  Here is the link to the detailed top:  http://www.12fret.com/used/larriveeClassical1974tp.jpg

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April 21, 2006, 07:29:15 PM #19
Quote from: Jean Larrivee on April 21, 2006, 06:43:32 PM
Ahh yes, I remember having a hand in each of these lovely classicals.  The contraversy over the first piece can be ended by knowing it's western red cedar.  I hope you can all sleep better at night now ^_^.  The piece above this post has a canadian sitka spruce soundboard. 

~Jean

I'll take his word for it!  :UND>

Ron

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