Enough about GOTOH 510 tuners on Larrivee...(Lots of Pics)

[didymus21]

Because all your questions can be answered here!

I just replaced the ping tuners with Gotoh 510's, so I can assure you they are a perfect fit----a perfect drop in with remaining screws and post width (some of you already knew this, so the post is intended for new members to the forum who are wondering.  Here was the process of installing Gold gotoh 510's with ebony matte buttons:
(I had not intended to advertise for Mike and Ike's)




Let's see what we have




Now...what do we have to work with



Washers and "bolts" removed



Posts removed (notice the unpleasant surprise of bubbled finish at the caudal ends of the E A and D holes)





Out with the old...



Now, the new set-up, be advised I did fix the tuner that appears at a slight slant














I think they look nice, any comments from forum members??

[Draddy]

looks great, I like the gold and black better than the crome.

[whiskeyjack]

I'm trying to make sense out of putting them on an OM-03R.  They're an expensive add-on.

Do you have any idea which other Gotohs would work.  I have the same vision you had with gold and ebony but I don't wanna pay the 'big bucks'.

They look absolutely gorgeous on your guitar@!!  Goood job.

[didymus21]

I'm trying to make sense out of putting them on an OM-03R.  They're an expensive add-on.

Do you have any idea which other Gotohs would work.  I have the same vision you had with gold and ebony but I don't wanna pay the 'big bucks'.

They look absolutely gorgeous on your guitar@!!  Goood job.

Thanks, I was surprised with how well they blended with the guitar, espcecially since I didn't conform to the "schaller" style tuner buttons that were originally on it.  Hmm...as far as your question, I would recommend as follows:


These Gotohs would be about half the cost as the 510's, though they are not the contoured design

Stew
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead/1/Gotoh_Large_Schaller-style_Knob_Tuners/Pictures.html#details

LMII ((and you can get the black matte with them)
http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts.asp?CategoryName=Tuning+Machines&NameProdHeader=Gotoh%99+Steel+String



Grover golds and purchase some black matte grover style buttons

Stew
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead/Grover_Mini_Locking_Guitar_Machines.html

Here are some grover black matte replacement buttons:

http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts.asp?CategoryName=Tuning+Machines&NameProdHeader=Gotoh%99+Replacement+Buttons

[Redeemed]

Great job didy, those look fabulous! 

What year is your L-10? (I noticed the gloss headstock)

Whiskeyjack, I agree that 510's are rather pricey... but their buttery smooth action and flawless craftsmanship more than justify the hefty price tag.  I had the Larrivee Pings on my L for a little over a year.. in that time, I got used to the flop and actually didn't mind it.  Well now that I've got the 510's, I wonder why it took me an entire year for me to swap the pings out.  They're really that nice.  Maybe didymus can elaborate on what I'm talkin' about.


-dan

[didymus21]

Great job didy, those look fabulous! 

What year is your L-10? (I noticed the gloss headstock)

Whiskeyjack, I agree that 510's are rather pricey... but their buttery smooth action and flawless craftsmanship more than justify the hefty price tag.  I had the Larrivee Pings on my L for a little over a year.. in that time, I got used to the flop and actually didn't mind it.  Well now that I've got the 510's, I wonder why it took me an entire year for me to swap the pings out.  They're really that nice.  Maybe didymus can elaborate on what I'm talkin' about.


-dan

Give me a few days with them and I can comment further, but as of yet...they are EXCELLENT!  Held up nicely when installing new strings.  I support Dark Paniel fully on his opinion.  Are the L-10's no longer a gloss headstock?  I've got to catch up with the times....I suppose if they are satin necks now, a satin headstock would make sense  :GRN>

The L10 is a '97...one of the special editions right after they moved to Oxnard.

The FWI saddle and nut will installed sometime this week....oh, and by the way guys, I'll have pics posted of the *new* larrivee cases. (I would have already had it, but larrivee sent an OM case, by error)

[lestrouble]

where can I get this gotoh with ebony tuner, mini buttons perhaps!

[didymus21]

where can I get this gotoh with ebony tuner, mini buttons perhaps!

You can find the mini's here:


http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts.asp?CategoryName=Tuning+Machines&NameProdHeader=Gotoh%99+Contour+Steel+String

Chrome ones (w/black buttons) are listed as: GGM6CSMB, gold ones (without black buttons) are listed as GGM6GSM

That help?

[lestrouble]

oh mine..............will cost almost the guitar's worth......

[Redeemed]

where can I get this gotoh with ebony tuner, mini buttons perhaps!

Hey lestrouble,

I don't believe anyone sells the 510's with normal looking buttons (the non "organic", "liver" shaped buttons) stock.  You would have to buy the tuners and the mini buttons separately.  I bought the mini schaller ebony buttons from FQMS and they fit quite well.  I personally like the more subtle looks of the mini buttons better than regular sized buttons. 


-dan

[Redeemed]

Are the L-10's no longer a gloss headstock?  I've got to catch up with the times....I suppose if they are satin necks now, a satin headstock would make sense  :GRN>

Hahhaha.. yes, the times have changed.  All Larrivee's (besides the ones that are sunburst finished) now come with a satin neck and headstock.  I custom ordered mine to have a satin neck but with a glossy headstock.  I think a glossy headstock adds a little zing to the overall aesthetics.


-dan

[mazareth]

Hmmm Mike and Ikes. Haven't had those in years... Got any left?  ^_^

On a serious note, those tuners do look really nice and that is one sweet looking guitar!

[whiskeyjack]

Thanks for the links.  I was wondering if the Schaller Mini's would fit.  I think I'll pickup ssome all-black ones for my OM-03R.

[HangFire]

Very cool, thanks for the pics! :WNK>

[didymus21]

Thanks for the links.  I was wondering if the Schaller Mini's would fit.  I think I'll pickup ssome all-black ones for my OM-03R.

I don;t believe the schaller mini screwholes will fit...they aren't off-set at enough of an angle.


By the way, let me know if any of the pictures aren't working for you guys....sometimes they don't seem to show up.

[jmhyer]

Looks great, didymus21!

I thought I was clear about the 510's being drop-in replacements, but there's a statement on that LMII link that discusses the standard vs. "Delta series" 510's.  Apparently, the differences are gear ratio (not a huge difference to me) and screw hole placement (which is a significant difference).  Just for clarification, are these the standard 510's that were exact drop-ins?

[didymus21]

Looks great, didymus21!

I thought I was clear about the 510's being drop-in replacements, but there's a statement on that LMII link that discusses the standard vs. "Delta series" 510's.  Apparently, the differences are gear ratio (not a huge difference to me) and screw hole placement (which is a significant difference).  Just for clarification, are these the standard 510's that were exact drop-ins?

Yes, the standard 510's are exact drop-ins.  Stay away from the delta's unless you want to be drilling new screw holes (I made the mistake of buying deltas first)

[jmhyer]

Thanks!

[joopie]

d21- thank you for sharing-
I just changed over to black buttons on my OM-03R- might change machines down the road...

:mellow: J.

[tchlfxvt]

Hey didymus21 ,
They look great , nice job
Did you get the tuners and buttons  from Stew mac or LMI ?
Does anybody make actual ebony buttons ?
Thanks Tom