Maybe I'm Amazed

[ducktrapper]

With modern technology that is. So I bought this Sony SRS XB-10 Bluetooth speaker for my laptop. I have other speakers including a nice pair of Bose designed to work with computers but they take up too much room. This thing is half the size of coke can. And you know what? It sounds awesome and takes up almost no room at all. For $60.00 (Cdn). Think I'll get another one.

https://www.pcmag.com/review/355687/sony-srs-xb10  

[broKen]

Yeah I'm beginning to see those things everywhere, young people have them wherever they go, especially at work.

[ducktrapper]

Yeah I'm beginning to see those things everywhere, young people have them wherever they go, especially at work.

Sure, you can link them to your phone, as well. 

[headsup]

yup, Bose did some stuff as well.

excuse me fr this rant-inadvance.
tiny little easy to use Bluetooth what ever speakers reproduce tiny little compressed files.

new keyboards simulating Hammond B3's do the same.

yes, professional musicians don't have to take their leslie 125's to a gig- chopped own or not ( my pals still do)

there'a reason.
Air movement, with a Leslie, the top horn rotates at one speed counter clockwise faster than the lower frequencies speaker rotating clockwise.

similarly, the movement of air in speakers , means a much more accurate reproduction of lower frequencies ( like the big warm fuzzy overtones of our guitars) or the slap of an upright bass, or the sound of the timpani drum on any record being heard (and felt) through a system that has power, and speakers moving air (like the Hammond), like the guitar, like the bass and like the drum.

I am too old and set in my ways to be won over by false sound enticements from small speakers delivering sound from 1,000 to 10,000 k.

yes I realize the old days of 20 to 20k @ .04% THD are long gone, but frankly, even as old as I am, I can tell what harmonic range is absent with all these new speakers.

Yet, in the world of live audio, companies are now delivering astounding frequency response speakers ( QSC) for live gigs unheard of back in the day when we were all lugging big front loaded horn cab's in and out of gigs...

simply. big guitar big sound, small guitar small sound,
same with speakers.
air has to move to reproduce frequencies- EVEN though mort MPE and compressed files these days don't even register.

I still have ears, old ones, that sometimes can't hear my wife saying something, but for music, they still work.

ok carry on, this idiot is done ranting....

[ducktrapper]

yup, Bose did some stuff as well.

excuse me fr this rant-inadvance.
tiny little easy to use Bluetooth what ever speakers reproduce tiny little compressed files.

new keyboards simulating Hammond B3's do the same.

yes, professional musicians don't have to take their leslie 125's to a gig- chopped own or not ( my pals still do)

there'a reason.
Air movement, with a Leslie, the top horn rotates at one speed counter clockwise faster than the lower frequencies speaker rotating clockwise.

similarly, the movement of air in speakers , means a much more accurate reproduction of lower frequencies ( like the big warm fuzzy overtones of our guitars) or the slap of an upright bass, or the sound of the timpani drum on any record being heard (and felt) through a system that has power, and speakers moving air (like the Hammond), like the guitar, like the bass and like the drum.

I am too old and set in my ways to be won over by false sound enticements from small speakers delivering sound from 1,000 to 10,000 k.

yes I realize the old days of 20 to 20k @ .04% THD are long gone, but frankly, even as old as I am, I can tell what harmonic range is absent with all these new speakers.

Yet, in the world of live audio, companies are now delivering astounding frequency response speakers ( QSC) for live gigs unheard of back in the day when we were all lugging big front loaded horn cab's in and out of gigs...

simply. big guitar big sound, small guitar small sound,
same with speakers.
air has to move to reproduce frequencies- EVEN though mort MPE and compressed files these days don't even register.

I still have ears, old ones, that sometimes can't hear my wife saying something, but for music, they still work.

ok carry on, this idiot is done ranting....

I don't disagree but this just for my laptop. It's not replacing my stereo. 

[headsup]

I have a gig this week-end with a Hammond player and leslie.
no small audio system can duplicate the sound to true fidelity moving air.

also, singing into a Neman U-87 in a studio can't really be noticed much though a "dock" or a shitty sound system.
we still record on the best gear possible playing the best guitars and instruments possible
why go cheap on reproducing the sound?
thats what cars are for..... .

[ducktrapper]

I have a gig this week-end with a Hammond player and leslie.
no small audio system can duplicate the sound to true fidelity moving air.

also, singing into a Neman U-87 in a studio can't really be noticed much though a "dock" or a shitty sound system.
we still record on the best gear possible playing the best guitars and instruments possible
why go cheap on reproducing the sound?
thats what cars are for..... .

Well, again while I don't disagree, I don't get your objection. I have a lot of different sound systems here and about. Again, this is just for my laptop. But hey, I used to listen to music way back when on a transistor radio the size of a deck of cards. I enjoyed the heck out of it. Thought it sounded great. Music occurs in the brain not the speaker, after all. It's the music not the sound system. Is listening to rap on the greatest sound system known to man, more betterer?   

[ducktrapper]

Stereos etc. Music players. Let me count the ways.

Pretty decent one in my Tundra. I listen to most of my music in my truck, perhaps. It's almost an hour drive into town. Lots of Sirius/XM and CDs.  
Component stereo in my studio apartment in the garage. Good amp, turntable, double cassette deck, 5 disc changer, CD burner/player, Bose 301's.
PC in same room with EV speakers attached.
Imac in same room with Bose speakers attached.
Fender PD 250 Passport system in garage. Takes a CD player. Heck of a stereo.  
Sony boom box (radio, cassette,CD) for outside use in nice weather.
Sirius radio boom box in my loft.
Bose radio and CD player in same.
Laptop with new Sony bluetooth speakers in same room.
Antique Admiral Console stereo that my wife listens to on occasion.
Roland BR-1600
Roland BR-8
Edirol R-09
Various TVs

I may have left out some. Anyway no shortage of ways to listen to muisic.  

Old ears.  



     

[headsup]

ya, sorry, we all do.

I guess my ears hurt when I don't like "certain" kinds of listening situations, (like cars, stores, computer speakers, etc.
so then I just don't listen . Was at the dentist today and asked them to turn off the music (in the room i was in).
stores, bars, restaurants etc.m I can't be in if the recorded or piped in music is terrible and played through terrible systems.
ya it's my issue, and I'm sorry to puke this crap on the nice folks on this forum.

certainly I'm not the only one with sensitive ears around such matters?
also...it appears, as i get older, it affects me more and more. earplugs are clearly on my horizon....

[Queequeg]

For the first time ever, I employed ear plugs for a concert over the weekend.
Definitely tamped down the decibels (along with my enjoyment of the music). Los Lobos in a small venue. They were incredibly loud.

We all begin to lose high frequency hearing at a relatively young age.
"The ability to hear high frequencies deteriorates in most humans with age (a condition known as presbycusis), typically observable by the age of 18!"
Have you heard about "The Mosquito"?
Take this test.
Can you hear the 17.4kHz buzz? I can't.

The Mosquito or Mosquito alarm is an electronic device used to deter loitering by young people by emitting sound at high frequency, in some versions so it can be heard mostly by younger people. The devices have attracted controversy on the basis of human rights and discrimination concerns.

The device is marketed as a safety and security tool for preventing youths from congregating in specific areas. As such, it is promoted to reduce anti-social behaviour, such as loitering, vandalism, drug use, drug distribution, and violence. In the UK, over 3,000 have been sold, mainly for use outside shops and near transport hubs.[2] The device is also sold in Australia, France, Denmark, Italy, Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Canada and the USA.[3]

Critics say that it discriminates against young people and infringes their human rights, while supporters argue that making the Mosquito illegal would infringe the rights of shopkeepers who suffer business losses when "unruly teenagers" drive away their customers.[4] Mosquito distributors have said that they keep standards to ensure that the device is not abused, and Howard Stapleton who invented the device has asked European governments to legislate guidelines governing its use.[3]

[ducktrapper]

No but I can hear a real mosquito. Youth is wasted on the young.   

[ducktrapper]

I don't care, this thing works very well for the purpose I bought it. And it sounds just fine. Fills the whole house this morning. Jesse Winchester makes me ....      

[headsup]

I don't care, this thing works very well for the purpose I bought it. And it sounds just fine. Fills the whole house this morning. Jesse Winchester makes me ....      

doing a Jesse tune with this new show we're rehearsing  "Isn't that so?" Always have a couple of his tunes on deck, beautiful man great writer, missed by all. 

[ducktrapper]

doing a Jesse tune with this new show we're rehearsing  "Isn't that so?" Always have a couple of his tunes on deck, beautiful man great writer, missed by all. 

His last album, "A Reasonable Amount of Trouble", is simply amazing. He was literally dying as he made it and passed away soon after and yet it's almost totally cheerful. Great, great stuff. 

[headsup]

indeed, right up until the end, he always had that playful lilt in his voice.
That particular outing is the one that some of us feel most poignant.....

[ducktrapper]

I had the pleasure of seeing him live at least a half dozen times. Always a pleasure. He should have been a household name but the black dog and avoiding the draft cost him. This song off that album just slays me.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jesse+winchester+just+so+much&rlz=1C1GCEA_enCA836CA836&oq=jesse+winchester+just+so+much&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.12701j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8  

[ducktrapper]

Then there's this. The look on Costello's face says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKGWpqnS8E

[headsup]

yup us old montrealers had that pleasure, didn't know about "Black dog" hurting his career.
did a couple shows with him ( Ontario) couldn't meet a sweeter guy..

[ducktrapper]

yup us old montrealers had that pleasure, didn't know about "Black dog" hurting his career.
did a couple shows with him ( Ontario) couldn't meet a sweeter guy..

Of course, the black dog refers to clinical depression. Good song though. I've played that one for years.

[Mikeymac]

Well, this thread finally turned in a more interesting direction...thanks for the links to those beautiful songs, Tom.