What would you like to see into'd at NAMM?

Started by cutaway, January 03, 2007, 07:26:24 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Quote from: jeremy3220 on January 05, 2007, 07:49:42 AM
I'd like to see an unclrob signature model with a beltsander inlaid on the 12th fret and a donut for the rosette.

Now, that would be worth the up charge for sure. We love you unclrob.

Hey, how about if they announced that their warranty could be transfered to whoever owns the guitar for a specific number of years like Traynor warrants their amp?
Ruben

  Return of: acoustic bass, florentine cutaways
  Introduction of: nylon string crossover (like Taylor's NS, but better and based on the L shape - I don't see a better candidate to do this but Jean, since he knows both steel and nylon strings inside out).
LV-04E

+1 on an L-body nylon string!  Maybe an L03N/R (nylon/rosewood) with either 1 7/8" or 1 15/16" nut!!!
1999 D-02 Left-handed
2002 L-05 Left-handed
Larrivee owner since 1992

L-03 rosewood or black walnut, 12 fret, slotted headstock, 1.75 nut, long scale, bone nut and saddle, ebony pins, tortoise pickguard, that would fulfill both high end and low end for me.

John

Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 03, 2007, 11:39:46 PM
news that they have stopped using Ping (chinese word for crap) tuners

But that'd take away all the fun for the compulsive upgrade weenies.  I've owned easily 25 Larrivees and never had a tuner problem.  Not even close. There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners.  Wrap strings ends around posts properly, keep nut slots and bridge saddles correctly angled and lubricated, throw away the digital tuner and learn how to tune by intervals.  The rest is just window dressing.

I see a lot of interest here in 12-fret -03 guitars.  Why, then, have so many Forum guitars been selling lately for so cheap?

Otherwise, as to NAMM, I'd still like to see an L-body maple back and side guitar in the -03 series.

quote:  "There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners." 

the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.

My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune). 

This has been the experience of many.  I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.


I'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.

Quote from: sdelsolray on January 08, 2007, 01:37:31 AM
I'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.

:+1:

it would be nice to see this happen again!!

:cheers

Blue
OM-05MT "Mary Helen"
Silvercreek T-170
Harmony Herd (1203, 162, 165, 6362)

QuoteI'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.
:+1::+1:

my current gas for a cutaway with cedar top (C19 vine + cedar top) would be filled nicely

hummmmmmmmm

Ta,

d.



QuoteThe option of different nut widths on L body guitars

Absolutely. 

Quote"There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners." 

the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.

My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune). 

This has been the experience of many.  I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.

Tuning stability has never been an issue with any of my Larrivees and they've all been 03 series, presumably with the "junk" tuners. 
"Looks like satin, feels like silk!" 

Larrivee D-03
Larrivee J-03R 
Larrivee D-03E Mahogany Top
Larrivee L-03 12 Mahogany Top 
Larrivee OMV-03RE (sold to friend whose style just suited it better!)

Quote from: SongMan on January 08, 2007, 01:58:28 PM
Some electric guitars would be nice...

A agree.  Maple LSV thin body.  (Make it satin and no flame to keep cost down).  1 Baggs M1 + Some sort of AST.  That's it.  Just pure durable performers guitar.  No T5 clone, but something acoustic but made to play electric stuff too (mostly acoustic still).
Larrivee LSV-05
Larrivee LV-09FM
Larrivee CS-30
Yamaha Chronos LL-16
Yamaha Pacifica 112J
Martin LX-1
Fender American Stratocaster Delux
Fender Mexican Stratocaster
Fender Mexican Telecaster
Rivera Sedon

Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 08, 2007, 12:48:11 AM
quote:  "There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners." 

the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.

My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune). 

This has been the experience of many.  I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.



I've been playing guitars for over 35 years now, and working as a tech since 1979.  Tuners are the first thing in the chain people blame for tuning problems, and almost always the last factor responsible for them.  I used to stand by and watch customers tune their freshly set up guitars, using harmonics, sounding the reference string then unknowingly mute it by sounding the next string, turn the tuners for BOTH strings while the second one was ringing, and wonder "why won't this thing tune up?"  People are idiots when it comes to tuning guitars.  Neither fancy tuning keys nor digital tuners will save them from themselves.

Customers also used to change out original Kluson tuners on pre-CBS Fenders (contrary to strong advice not to) and end up with WORSE tuning problems.  Those Klusons were great, inexpensive, efficient tuners, and Larrivee's Pings remind me of them a lot.  Sure, they're not as finely geared as some others, but they're perfectly OK.  Leo Fender knew what worked for his guitars and so does Jean Larriveé--give them the respect they deserve.  I have always suspected the folks who change out Pings on Larrivees do it out of some kind upgrade consciousness and gear snobbery--pimping their axes, if you will--more than any real need for them.  Again, make sure nut slots are correctly angled and lubricated, wrap the strings on the posts correctly, learn to tune the guitar to ITSELF rather than a tuner, and leave the damn thing stock--it'll work fine and always be more desriable on the secondary market (where they ALL end up, usually sooner than later).

Quote from: honkytone on January 12, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
I've been playing guitars for over 35 years now, and working as a tech since 1979.  Tuners are the first thing in the chain people blame for tuning problems, and almost always the last factor responsible for them.  I used to stand by and watch customers tune their freshly set up guitars, using harmonics, sounding the reference string then unknowingly mute it by sounding the next string, turn the tuners for BOTH strings while the second one was ringing, and wonder "why won't this thing tune up?"  People are idiots when it comes to tuning guitars.  Neither fancy tuning keys nor digital tuners will save them from themselves.

Customers also used to change out original Kluson tuners on pre-CBS Fenders (contrary to strong advice not to) and end up with WORSE tuning problems.  Those Klusons were great, inexpensive, efficient tuners, and Larrivee's Pings remind me of them a lot.  Sure, they're not as finely geared as some others, but they're perfectly OK.  Leo Fender knew what worked for his guitars and so does Jean Larriveé--give them the respect they deserve.  I have always suspected the folks who change out Pings on Larrivees do it out of some kind upgrade consciousness and gear snobbery--pimping their axes, if you will--more than any real need for them.  Again, make sure nut slots are correctly angled and lubricated, wrap the strings on the posts correctly, learn to tune the guitar to ITSELF rather than a tuner, and leave the damn thing stock--it'll work fine and always be more desriable on the secondary market (where they ALL end up, usually sooner than later).
Well, I have no doubt that there are "idiots" out there who cannot tune a guitar, but I am not one of them. 

Pings are JUNK.

Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 12, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Pings are JUNK.

If that be the case, can mere chance explain my complete lack of problems with them on over two dozen Larrivees, not to mention the many more I've played casually in stores and at NAMM shows?  Very unlikely.  That's too great a sample for me to accept the dictum that "Pings are JUNK."  Maybe people get spoiled by the response of ultra finely geared tuners, and Pings seem crude by comparison.  I know some people on this board think they're substandard, but there's plenty that agree with me that they're a fine, standard equipment tuner.  Regardless, one thing's for sure:  the premium tuner manufacturers will gladly and forever take a fool's money.

Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 12, 2007, 01:52:35 PM


Pings are JUNK.
Quote from: honkytone on January 12, 2007, 02:25:08 PM
If that be the case, can mere chance explain my complete lack of problems with them on over two dozen Larrivees, not to mention the many more I've played casually in stores and at NAMM shows?  Very unlikely.  That's too great a sample for me to accept the dictum that "Pings are JUNK."  Maybe people get spoiled by the response of ultra finely geared tuners, and Pings seem crude by comparison.  I know some people on this board think they're substandard, but there's plenty that agree with me that they're a fine, standard equipment tuner.  Regardless, one thing's for sure:  the premium tuner manufacturers will gladly and forever take a fool's money.


honkytone,

I agree - despite the aggressive claims to the contrary, Pings are not junk. I know there are fancier tuners but all I need to do my job are tuners that work. Pings have done the job admirably for me on my several Larrivees in the studio/live/tv and radio/big shows/small shows/whatever

Makes you wonder what some people expect from a set of tuners?

maybe...what key is it in?

Quote from: balanwood on January 12, 2007, 04:46:34 PM


Makes you wonder what some people expect from a set of tuners?


I expect them to make the guitar hold tune.  The only 2 people that I personally know that own or have owned Larrivee guitars have had terrible experiences with the stock Pings.  I'm glad that some here have not had the same thing.  But, I stand by my statement:  Pings are junk.

What would I like to see ?

12 fret, short scale, 1 3/4  nut,  rosewood

the nylon crossover sounds great also, once again, short scale, 1 7/8 max nut width

Tasteful  :donut inlays also  :humour:


10 Larrivee 00-03R 
09 CA Cargo
09 Taylor GA SS
06 Taylor 714CE
05 Santa Cruz OM S
04 Baby Taylor


Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 12, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Nobody has guessed it yet!  :bgrin:

OK, OK, time to go in another direction.

Inspired by the English Fylde "Single Malt" guitar, Larrivee is going to make a special run of guitars using North American whiskey barrels. In liu of spruce vs hog, the choice will be Canadian or Kentucky Bourbon whiskey.

It will be a OO-03 "Special Edition" and is guaranteed to improve with age.

Powered by EzPortal