the showdown...

Started by suprswd, June 28, 2006, 07:32:02 PM

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Are you a 'hog guy or a rosewood kinda guy (back/sides) ?

rosewood
mahogany
Quote from: suprswd on June 29, 2006, 08:18:39 PM
to come to think of it,

i should have added some other tonewoods in the poll as well.

Yeah, you should have, then rosewood wouldn't take such a beating like right now. :<> ^_^
2005 Larrivée LV-03RE
2003 Larrivée Rosewood Special Edition Parlor
1998 Fender American Std Stratocaster
1991 Vantage VS-5 (beater)

   I prefer Mahogany over rosewood  :GRN>but if you add Koa and blackwood to the mix that changes things. :SHK> I love my Om-03K


kdonovan

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Quote from: suprswd on June 29, 2006, 08:18:39 PM
to come to think of it,

i should have added some other tonewoods in the poll as well. koa blackwood and maple should be in there.

man, do i want to try out a blackwood guitar. ive heard nothing but good about em. what can they be descibed as?

...a little rosewood and a little 'hog fused together?

:SHK>

~Logan :ph34r:

Koa is usually described as a mixture of mahogany and rosewood. Blackwood is more of the same but a little more to the rosewood end of the spectrum.

Unclrob coined the phrase "Koa on steroids" to describe blackwood. And I don't think he was referring to a pimply back and shrivelled testicles.
Don

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Martin D-18 RIP :crying:
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Gretsch Tennessee Rose
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Quote from: kdonovan on June 29, 2006, 08:35:29 PM
   I prefer Mahogany over rosewood  :GRN>but if you add Koa and blackwood to the mix that changes things. :SHK> I love my Om-03K


kdonovan

Kdonovan, that is a beautiful guitar. I hope that it plays and sounds just as good as mine does. Heckova guitar!
Don

Larrivée D-09BW
Larrivée LV-03BW
Larrivée OM-03K
Larrivée LV-03-12
Martin D-18 RIP :crying:
Mossman Tennessee 12
Gretsch Chet Atkins DC
Gretsch Tennessee Rose
Fender Am. Stratocaster
Guild X-170T Manhattan
Fender 90s Telecaster Custom
Guild Starfire 5
Gretsch 5422 12 String
G&L ASAT Deluxe Semi

kdonovan,  that koa is stunning.  it's the first time i've seen a koa guitar and thought that, to be honest - maybe i've never seen a picture of a back before.

i'd been living a pretty GAS-free life while i was cutting down on my Larriveeforum visits. Now L05's and koa's and blackwoods . . . . oh, it's all coming back.   :wacko:

Viva la difference! Like 'em both.

I will say that the mahogany LS-05 is easier to record -- I'm still trying to come up with a good recorded sound from the L-03R -- fault could be with low-end mike (Samson USB) and the difference in body size between LS and L (boominess). But like both in their own way for sound.
L-03R
LS-05

rosewoods makin a comeback  :TON>
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-LITTLE MARTIN LXM ($100+gift)
-1983 SQ SERIES STRAT (gift)
-ROLAND MICRO CUBE ($135)

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How can you have a serious discussion about tonewoods without talking about WALNUT?  :TON> :SHK>  :rolleyes:






Ron


ronmac,
   That is a sweet  looking guitar.  I have never had the opportunity to play a walnut guitar. I am curious what they sound like?  Thanks

kdonovan
kdonovan


Well if we were talking about food the answer would probably be "it tastes just like chicken".  :GRN>

It varies some from guitar to guitar, but the consensous seems to be that it is fairly neutral sounding and allows the top wood to play a more prominent roll in defining the tone of the instrument. I'll let Dana Bourgeois (maker of this instrument, using Curly Claro Walnut) tell you what he thinks:

QuoteBack and Sides

Besides serving to form the enclosure of the soundbox, the back and sides of the guitar also act as a sympathetic resonator whose oscillations contribute greatly to the harmonic mix. When judiciously selected (with due consideration given to design criteria and the other tonewoods used in the instrument), the back and sides can have a tremendous effect on the overall tone of the instrument.....

Maple and walnut tend to be more acoustically transparent than other tonewoods, due to a low velocity of sound and a high degree of internal damping. That is to say that they allow tonal characteristics of the top to be heard without the addition of extraneous coloration and may even serve to attenuate some of the overtones emanating from the top.

The harder, denser examples of these woods, such as sugar maple and black walnut- particularly quartersawn examples-tend to lean slightly more toward the tonal direction of mahogany, while softer examples, such as bigleaf maple and claro walnut, tend toward greater tonal transparency. Curly, quilted, or bird's-eye figures do not seem to have much effect on the tone of the wood, but they can be used, like bearclaw, as an indicator of other properties. Quilted figure, for example, occurs most often in softer species and is best displayed when the wood is flat sawn-two characteristics that tend to produce higher damping properties.
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Ron


rosewoods comin back
-YAMAHA FG-04 LTD ($200)
-LITTLE MARTIN LXM ($100+gift)
-1983 SQ SERIES STRAT (gift)
-ROLAND MICRO CUBE ($135)

http://www.myspace.com/suprswd
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Hmm... I had many of both(mohog and rose) and I still don't know which I prefer.

I'm not sure if I prefer one over the other. But if I had just one it would be a rosewood.

If I could have only one (perish the thought), it'd be maple.
But a nice guitar is a nice guitar ... I suspect I could be happy with most any good guitar.

- Richard
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plus a few other treasures

OM-03 or OM-03R...

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=12353.0

cant really decide for myself, so someone help me out. they are both so nice...:EM>

~Logan
-YAMAHA FG-04 LTD ($200)
-LITTLE MARTIN LXM ($100+gift)
-1983 SQ SERIES STRAT (gift)
-ROLAND MICRO CUBE ($135)

http://www.myspace.com/suprswd
reppppin.

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