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Title: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on February 15, 2008, 07:02:09 PM
A friend of mine wanted to buy a guitar for her husband's birthday, so I helped her choose one today. After playing several Larrivees and slew of Martins, we decided on this one:

http://www.wildwoodmusic.com/LarL09Mad.html

The interesting thing is this; the top is very rare red sitka. The woman who owns the shop (Wildwood Music in Coshocton, Ohio) spoke with Jean himself about this guitar. Evidently, the top wood is a hybrid of sitka and another type, which in some ways is even more resonant that Adi. This guitar is a gem, and Dave (her husband) has no idea he's getting this next Saturday. Total surprise.

The RW pattern is pretty nice too.

This is a great shop to visit, BTW. Very friendly and knowledgable people.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: immelman on February 15, 2008, 07:15:27 PM
WOW!!! What a wife!!! I think she needs to become a consultant (to other wives)
:nice guitar:

Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on February 15, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
Or divorce him and move in with me :nanadance

For his 40th birthday she bought him a killer Martin D-42. Cindy is rare in the best possible way. (This is his 50th)

I played that guitar for about twenty minutes straight. It's a daisy. The only other guitar, to my ear, that was close was a very, very nice Martin OM-35. I might drive back up there and get that one. Played an Eric Clapton that was only average( but still nice  :smile: ). Another one that was in the running was a OM-09.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: LarryDelux on February 16, 2008, 04:50:30 PM
That is a super guitar indeed. I don't think the top is that rare. Adirondack spruce is being used alot these days. The Madagascar rosewood is quite the novelty these days though. Nice combo. I had inquired about that guitar but felt that Wildwood was asking too much for it.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dermot on February 16, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
QuoteI don't think the top is that rare. Adirondack spruce is being used alot these days.

i think the top is Red Sitka, not Adi... and that top wood is quite rare - from a post by JR last October;
QuoteI asked Brian Trepanier that same question last month when I saw an L-09 MR similar to mine at Guitar Adoptions which was described as having a red sitka spruce top. Here's Brian's response:

A bit of research later, this is what has been found out:

The spruce used on those particular guitars is from one very special log. Obviously, we work with a fair number of spruce logs (as we cut our own wood). We had never seen a Sitka log that was so red before. As you can tell from your guitar, it borders on the color of cedar. However, unlike cedar, these tops were extremely rigid. Rigidity is a highly desirable trait in a guitar top as it allows us to get the top as thin as possible while maintaining strength. We were able to get about 300 premium soundboards out of the wood. 100 of them were used for a special edition for our Japanese distributor, and many were used for a Canadian dealer named Long and McQuade. 120 of them were used on a set of guitars we called the "Roadshow" guitars which were a series of guitars (L-09's of varying wood species) what were made for our German distributor and were toured throughout Germany on a "Roadshow". We also built the 12th Fret limited's out of this wood. As it stands we have about 25 soundboards left, and we haven't decided what to do with them yet. We often refer to the wood in house as "Red Spruce" which clearly confuses it with Adirondack, of which it is not.

The most amazing thing about Brian's response to me, other than it being very interesting, is its length! All the other times I've asked him questions, his replies have always been so succinct - no more than one or two sentences!  I've always admired his skill at doing this, but I really appreciate the research he did to answer this question!


i saw it online, and it really got me thinking.... i have a red sitka topped OM already, and it's a winner... but red sitka over Mad it could be a really special guitar, i hope so for your friend - it is an amazing and lovely gift....

Here's hopeing he makes great music with it for years to come!

Ta,

d.

I'm working with a luither on a custom instead....
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: blued03r on February 16, 2008, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: dermot on February 16, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
i think the top is Red Sitka, not Adi... and that top wood is quite rare - from a post by JR last October;
Ta,

d.



Boy, if you really want to beat a dead horse, take the above quote from Brian and paste into the, "THIS BEAR HAD SHARP CLAWS" post.  That should keep 'em talking for a couple more pages!   :roll

More importantly,  :nice guitar:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on February 17, 2008, 06:45:42 AM
Larry, my point was this:

"Evidently, the top wood is a hybrid of sitka and another type, which in some ways is even more resonant that Adi.

Dermot, that's the wood Marty was talking about on the phone with Jean. It does sort of have that Adi look. Thanks for posting that quote.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: LarryDelux on February 17, 2008, 09:10:02 AM
Well this is true. All red spruce is not Adirondack, of course. I assumed it was Adi because there is so much Adi (at least out of Martin factory) these days. I just assumed it was Adirondack. Kinda looks like adi too. Anyway, I think that guitar is really nicely thought out. I have a JCL, and it is an amazing guitar, very different from other L rosewood guitars. And though it satisfies all my demands and then some for an L series, I am going to buy the L-09LE! It's a winner. I just hope the two will be far enough away tone wise from each other.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: axmaster on February 18, 2008, 08:49:26 AM
Hello people,

I've owned Larrivee guitars since 2001, but only recently found out about this forum! Great lurking here, and now it's time for my first post.

Interesting info on red spruce. I bought an OM-09 MR recently. It wasn't until I inquired after the date of manufacturing that I realized the top had a different colour then my previous 2001 OMV-09. Other then the MR the specs on this guitar are different from regular -09 series guitars: inlay on the headstock, gold tuners with white striped plastic (ivoroid?) buttons, and of course the reddish top. The pics posted by Topographic of the wildwood L-09 appear to have the same appointments.

Luke from Larrivee informed me that red sitka spruce is Larrivee's own designation of a very red piece of sitka, and that my guitar was probably a custom order. I wonder how it made its way to Europe (I'm from The Netherlands). Reading Brain's info on the red sitka spruce makes me wonder if the top of my guitar comes from this special log. My guitar was built in December 2006. Does anyone else have a Larrivee with a red spruce top and the aforementioned appointments that was built around that time?

Regards,

Peter
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: mika on February 18, 2008, 08:40:15 PM
WOW!!! What a wife!!! I think she needs to become a consultant (to other wives)


I second that.  Where do I sign my wife up for lessons?
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: billybob308 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:13 PM
heres is  my L-09MR made in Nov. of 07 It has the red sitka top to.
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/fritzy1911/AaronwithL-09outside001.jpg)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/fritzy1911/LarriveeL-o9MR006.jpg)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/fritzy1911/Aubreys_Awsome_Pics_1301-1.jpg)
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on February 24, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Hello all! First post here, though I've stopped by to read a few times in the past.

I am the lucky person to receive the L-09 Custom Topo is talking about.  :smile:

I'm pretty much a Martin guy, but the 'L' Larrivee has always been a favorite of mine. So this Larrivee is a great gift! What a nice, rich sounding guitar! And beautiful...wow! I going to send it out in a couple days to be setup. I can't wait to get it back!!

I fully intend to put it to good use! And, yes... I am trying to get my wife to be a consultant for your wives!

See you good folks on the forum!

Dave
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on February 25, 2008, 08:29:54 AM
Yeah, I think your surprise party worked out pretty well, Dave :nice guitar:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 25, 2008, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: dave42 on February 24, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Hello all! First post here, though I've stopped by to read a few times in the past.

I am the lucky person to receive the L-09 Custom Topo is talking about.  :smile:

I'm pretty much a Martin guy, but the 'L' Larrivee has always been a favorite of mine. So this Larrivee is a great gift! What a nice, rich sounding guitar! And beautiful...wow! I going to send it out in a couple days to be setup. I can't wait to get it back!!

I fully intend to put it to good use! And, yes... I am trying to get my wife to be a consultant for your wives!

See you good folks on the forum!

Dave

Welcome to the Forum.   :nice guitar:
A very nice gift indeed!
I am already blessed with a wife that spoils me with guitars so my wife will not be needing needing any consultation.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Mr_LV19E on February 25, 2008, 11:51:14 AM
 :welcome: to the forum Dave. That is one  :nice guitar:

:wave
:donut  :coffee  :donut2
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Mikeymac on February 25, 2008, 04:10:12 PM
Beautiful guitar!  But it just reinforces my belief (personal taste?) that L body Larrivee's don't look right with traditional pickguards on 'em...JMHO...

:nice guitar:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on February 25, 2008, 09:59:16 PM
Thanks for the welcome folks!
I see I forgot something us newbies are to do here! So here ya go!  :smile:
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/roninnotforhire/Donuts007.jpg)
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: axmaster on February 26, 2008, 06:04:12 AM
Hello Billybob,
What can I say, you have a great looking guitar! The appointments of your L-09MR appear to be the same as my OM-09MR! I love the Larrivee aesthetics.

I noticed one difference, my label states OM-09MR, with the by line 'Madagascar rosewood', whereas your label reads 'L-09' and has the byline 'custom'. Interesting difference!

As soon as I have enough posts I'll post some pics.

Regards,

Peter
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on April 22, 2008, 12:15:06 AM
Hello, all!
I have settled in with my Larrivee, and it is a wonderful sounding guitar!! I had to have the 18th fret worked on as it was a little high on the treb side.

I added bone bridge pins (http://www.guitarsaddles.com/) and added new tuners (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/1/Gotoh_Midsize_510_Tuners_with_Metal_Knobs/Pictures.html#details). Nothing to do but play it now!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/Larrivee%20L-09/Label.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/Larrivee%20L-09/Larriveetop2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/Larrivee%20L-09/Backandside.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/Larrivee%20L-09/Maplebinding.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/Larrivee%20L-09/2006LarriveeL-09MadagascarCustom.jpg)
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on April 22, 2008, 10:09:07 AM
Dave, those tuners look spectacular!

Is that the same pickguard? I don't remember it looking like that way....oh well, it looks great regardless.

Now I absolutely have to swing by and play it sometime. :nana_guitar
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: John R on April 22, 2008, 02:41:45 PM
Awesome, and fantastic photos too. Welcome my friend. Keep us updated please. I could do with some lessons on how to take photos like that  :arrow
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on April 22, 2008, 08:59:11 PM
Thx for the nice words!

Topo, that is the same pickguard. If John A. still had DeepRiver material, it likely would have been changed, too. But it remains the same, likely for good. I really like the new tuners.. much better. Easy swap.
Dave :guitar
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: topographic on April 23, 2008, 07:50:59 AM
PS: I think you better cut your grass pretty soon!!  :winkin:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on April 23, 2008, 08:22:46 AM
You know, I did right after these pics, but the darn stuff keeps growing!!!!!    :bgrin:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Denis on April 23, 2008, 10:10:33 AM
I've only ever tried a couple of Madagascar RW guitars.  But those L-09s look stunning.  I remember when the 12th Fret had a bunch up on their site...think it was a half dozen...maybe?  They had pictures of several and they went pretty quick if memory serves.  Beautiful red spruce tops, lovely tuners...and the pickguard, well, pickguards are there for one reason if you ask me, to be taken off! 

I'd love to try one.

:nice guitar:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on July 28, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
Hey all!! Just an update about this fine guitar.

Wow!! Really sounds great. Couldn't be happier. I had it at a music party yesterday and I had a few few friends play it. Sure was nice to hear it from out front! One guy there that as played a lot of guitars in his day said it was one of the top 10 guitars he's played.  I was stunned... but happy !!   :smile:

Dave
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: JR on July 30, 2008, 02:10:18 AM
Dave, thanks for the update on your guitar. I feel very privileged and proud to own an L-09 MR myself! Next month I'll have had it for a whole year, and I can't believe how much better it's gotten! I just changed the strings today as well as the strings on my H&D TDM Custom - used Newtone mediums - and both guitars sound like a chorus of angels! And as fantastic as my H&D is, I still prefer playing my Larrivée!  :thumbsup

After reading all the posts on how the sound can be improved by changing saddles, I'm contemplating getting a Fossilized Walrus Ivory saddle. Also, Dave, did you notice a big change when you replaced the ebony pins with the bone ones? I'm thinking I might do the same, or maybe even get FWI pins.

John

Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 03:57:40 AM
I'm a newbie and fairly clueless, but I just got an L03R and the spruce top looks remarkably similar to the "red spruce" discussed here.  It is darker and more richly grained than any other Larries I've seen (prior to the photos in this thread).  Would they dare use this beautiful wood on a "lowly" 03 model?  Did I get really lucky and someone at the factory with a bad hangover put the wrong top on my L03?
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: guitone on July 30, 2008, 07:51:24 AM
Nice, very nice. There is something about Madrose. I picked up a very limited one, a madrose parlor with bearclaw sitka top with 10 appointments, even though it is designated an 09. It is the one I play the most these days, just a delight. The think I love about Larrivee is that they do not rape us over the upcharge for madrose, not like some makers.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Danny on July 30, 2008, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 03:57:40 AM
I'm a newbie and fairly clueless, but I just got an L03R and the spruce top looks remarkably similar to the "red spruce" discussed here.  It is darker and more richly grained than any other Larries I've seen (prior to the photos in this thread).  Would they dare use this beautiful wood on a "lowly" 03 model?  Did I get really lucky and someone at the factory with a bad hangover put the wrong top on my L03?
If your 03 is an older model it could be aging well and getting a "tan".

              :nice guitar: Madrose looks good. I like the tuners also.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 11:00:41 AM
Nope, I hope it's not "tanning" that easily or it'll end up with skin cancer--it's brand spanking new (still checking it's born-on date from the factory folks).  Maybe I'll try and post a photo for comparison--it looks exactly like  the photos posted for the MadRose.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Danny on July 30, 2008, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 11:00:41 AM
Nope, I hope it's not "tanning" that easily or it'll end up with skin cancer--it's brand spanking new (still checking it's born-on date from the factory folks).  Maybe I'll try and post a photo for comparison--it looks exactly like  the photos posted for the MadRose.
pennerblue start a new topic in Larrivee guitars and if you need help with photo's some of us will assist you.     Danny
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
Thanks for the offer Danny. Apparently newbies can't post photos (according to forum rules).  I'll have to wait until I get upgraded I guess...
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Danny on July 30, 2008, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: pennerblue on July 30, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
Thanks for the offer Danny. Apparently newbies can't post photos (according to forum rules).  I'll have to wait until I get upgraded I guess...
Start a new topic, post your text and just ask for help with pics. E-mail them to one of us and we'll put em up for you in your thread. We can do it easily. Danny
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: PMC on July 30, 2008, 05:47:22 PM
Hi all,

This is my first post! I just wanted to chime in here and say that I played dave42's L-09 over the weekend and it "is" one of the top 10 guitars I have ever played. I still cant get that sound out of my head. Like dave said, I have had a lot of guitars pass through my hands and this guitar is just amazing.

I think I am going to buy a Larrivee real soon!  :smile:
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Danny on July 30, 2008, 07:31:53 PM
 :welcome: PMC There's a lot of nice ones for sale right here on the forum. Keep us posted.   Danny
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: dave42 on August 01, 2008, 10:50:49 PM
JR, Yes, the bone pins brightened it up, as expected. I like 'bone tone' rather then 'ebony tone'. I am in no way saying one is right, just what pleases my ears.  :smile: But to be fair, the L-09 changed so much, so quickly the first 2 months, it could have been heading the brighter way, anyway! It was an amazing first couple of months.

Folks, PMC is a great person. Great ears for acoustic guitar tone, imho.
:donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

Thx for the nice comments, PMC! Can't go wrong with a 'L' body Larrivee. I know of a D-60 that sounded great, too!  :smile:

My wife bought this L-09 for me. She really wants me to play the heck out of it. It just may see some gig action! Kinda fancy for me at a gig, but it is really getting a lot of playing time lately.
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Danny on August 01, 2008, 11:29:14 PM
Quote from: dave42 on August 01, 2008, 10:50:49 PM
JR, Yes, the bone pins brightened it up, as expected. I like 'bone tone' rather then 'ebony tone'. I am in no way saying one is right, just what pleases my ears.  :smile: But to be fair, the L-09 changed so much, so quickly the first 2 months, it could have been heading the brighter way, anyway! It was an amazing first couple of months.

Folks, PMC is a great person. Great ears for acoustic guitar tone, imho.
:donut :donut2 :donut :donut2

Thx for the nice comments, PMC! Can't go wrong with a 'L' body Larrivee. I know of a D-60 that sounded great, too!  :smile:

My wife bought this L-09 for me. She really wants me to play the heck out of it. It just may see some gig action! Kinda fancy for me at a gig, but it is really getting a lot of playing time lately.
Gig away, It sounds like it's the git for you, play it :guitar IMHO   Danny
Title: Re: L-09 Madagascar RW Special Edition
Post by: Edwardtang on August 02, 2008, 12:53:19 AM
 :nice guitar:
Congradulations! I know how you feel!
My girlfriend boguht me a Gibson SG '61 a year ago and ...wow!
What else can a guy ask for?
Your guitar has really nice grain and just by the looks of it, it should sound awesome!
:nana_guitar :nana_guitar