We all know Larrivee makes the best guitars in the world, but I have concluded that they in fact make THE best guitar ever designed: the D-03. 

Recently I was thinking about when I first learned about Larrivee.  I guess it was around 1997 when I began seeing these very plain-looking (yet elegant) guitars on the wall of my local Guitar Center.  They were hanging on the wall next to the high-end makers, but priced at something like $450.  I could not then pronounce the name but I was intrigued.  Each time I would pick one up I would be absolutely blown away by the feel and sound.  There were usually two or three on the wall at any given time, and they were always D-03 models (I never saw the other styles till many years later). 

I was very young back then and always broke, so five bills for a guitar was a ton of money for me, plus I was mostly an electric guitarist.  I had an acoustic then, just not a very good one, and went through another lousy one before realizing I really needed something better.  With a young family and bills it was going to be near impossible to get a Taylor, Martin, Gibson, but those plain-Jane Frenchy-sounding guitars at GC were only around $500 and they sounded as good as the Taylors, et al.  I rat-holed and saved up money for a long time till I had about $600 that diapers, baby formula, and bills somehow didn't devour.   I was all set to buy a regular D-03 and finally have my "real" acoustic guitar when I found a blackwood model used for around the money I had saved.  I bought it and that was about twenty years ago now.  I don't have any more electric guitars but I still have my D-03.

So why is the D-03 the best guitar in the world? 

Versatility.  Of course anyone who can play well can play anything on any guitar, but a dread is overall a very versatile guitar.  Some would say the L-body is probably the most versatile (and a Larrivee original design gives it a cool-factor all its own), but the world over recognizes the dread as pretty much the original steel string acoustic guitar. 

Sound.  Come on, just play one. 

Aesthetics.  Being so plain and understated, they just look cool, they age well, and such a classic design will never be hipster or outdated.  They transcend all trends and will stand the test of time. 

Price.  This where the D-03 really makes sense, especially on the used market.  I still look almost daily online and on my local Craig's List at used guitars and routinely see D-03s going for well under $1000.  This makes it the most accessible high-end, small shop-made guitar in the world.  I still see them selling for around $600-$700. 

My D-03 is a lifetime guitar for me.  I love all Larrivees, and maybe some day I'll have the ability to become a collector and get a roomful of them, but I'm pretty sure my old guitar will still be my favorite.  Do you have a D-03?  What do you think?

Good post. I'll bite!

There are now really TWO Larrivee dreadnought models: the standard D's (03, 05, 09, etc.) with traditional Larrivee bracing (horizontal braces below the sound hole across the lower bout) and 40 Series D's (40, 40R, 44, etc.) which have the *newer to Larrivee* Martin style bracing (two diagonal braces below the sound hole/bridge plate across the lower bout).

The traditional Larrivee braces tend to create a more balanced tone across the strings, even in the dreadnought body. The 40 Series braces tend to create more bass/low end, leaning more in the Martin tone direction, although they still don't sound exactly like a Martin (which is a good thing; if people want that, they'll buy a Martin).

Either way, I agree that a dread could be the only guitar you need - and during the late 60's/early 70's, they were just about all you saw (except for the new Ovations, which were a different critter).

I've owned both a D-03 and a D-03R. I don't have either of them anymore (got bit by the Martin dread bug for awhile - tried both a D-18 and a D-35, still own a Model America 1); lately I've been looking at a Larrivee D-40 with an Italian top...very tempting!

Dreads are too big for me personally.  Love the sound of them though.


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I can understand your passion for your D03. My first high end guitar was a new Martin D35 that I bought for $600 cash on the barrel head as they say back in 1977. My next guitar was an Ovation 12 string Pacemaker that I never really bonded with. My wife and kids bought me a Martin Backpacker in 1995 that I set up for Nashville tuning.

I got my first Larrivee, a parlor in 2004 and was so impressed I ordered a 12 string LV03  in 2005. I am patiently waiting for my 3rd Larrivee, a Forum VI.
With the exception of the Ovation, every guitar I have is a keeper. I have complete confidence that I'll feel the same about my Forum VI.

I just shoveled two feet of snow of my front porch so I can chill for a while.

I have ended up selling almost every Dreadnought guitar I have owned.  They are just a wee too big and bulky to be comfortable.


So, obviously you meant Larrivee OM-03     :bgrin:

Quote from: AZLiberty on January 18, 2022, 03:42:18 PM
I have ended up selling almost every Dreadnought guitar I have owned.  They are just a wee too big and bulky to be comfortable.


So, obviously you meant Larrivee OM-03     :bgrin:

I see what you mean.  Maybe the rule should be: the 03 line are the absolute best all-around guitars in the world. 

Quote from: Silence Dogood on January 20, 2022, 06:57:43 AM
I see what you mean.  Maybe the rule should be: the 03 line are the absolute best all-around guitars in the world. 

Bang for your buck, the 03's are at the top of my list. Adding anything is icing on the cake, imo. 

I'm another "D is too big" person, but everyone should play what they want.  I'm partial to parlors, but I forget exactly who.... a diminutive woman player, Bonnie Raitt, Emylou Harris??  who plays a jumbo.  So I'm not going to say they are bad guitars. Lol

Ed

The Larrivee L-05 is the best guitar in the world.
Mike

Quote from: mike in lytle on January 20, 2022, 10:00:04 PM
The Larrivee L-05 is the best guitar in the world.
Mike

Can you elaborate on this? 

It's like the answer to the question about which exercise is the best.  It's the one you do consistently over time.  I've heard people make a toy guitar sound better than most other guitars.


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Quote from: Strings4Him on January 22, 2022, 12:51:30 PM
It's like the answer to the question about which exercise is the best.  It's the one you do consistently over time.  I've heard people make a toy guitar sound better than most other guitars.


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Actually, this is a bit different than saying, "This guitar is my favorite."  I tried to line out several reasons why this is the best all-around guitar as far an function, value, etc., goes.  Anyone looking for a lifelong guitar that does everything a guitar should do, will last beyond a lifetime, and doesn't cost a lot of money need look no further than a D-03.  That's not the same as saying, e.g., a Taylor 510 is the best guitar in the world because I own one. 
:smile:

Quote from: eded on January 20, 2022, 10:09:00 AM

I'm another "D is too big" person, but everyone should play what they want.  I'm partial to parlors, but I forget exactly who.... a diminutive woman player, Bonnie Raitt, Emylou Harris??  who plays a jumbo.  So I'm not going to say they are bad guitars. Lol

Emmylou Harris plays a Gibson J-200...big guitar.  :thumbsup

Wow you are on point with this one
I have had a couple of DO threes
And to my shame and embarrassment I must admit I have sold a couple but I have also given away a couple
I've given them away because I think they're such great guitars
I've sold a couple because I always thought that there was something better
But I've come to love the simpleness of the D03
And I've come not to care about fancy looks and glossy finishes
In fact I like the beauty and the simplicity of the matte finish D03
I have just bought another diesel three and it will be my last
But it won't be my last larrivee
I really believe in these guitars and I really believe in the company
You get so much for your money
And it when it really comes down with the sound of this wonderful guitar is unequaled
Yes you can get probably a slightly different sound from other brands
But I really love the balance and projection of the larrivee brand
So yes flaky as it seems I am back to the larrivee
I really like the beginning post really tells it like it is
God bless

Quote from: DaveyO on February 03, 2022, 11:59:19 PM
Wow you are on point with this one
I have had a couple of DO threes
And to my shame and embarrassment I must admit I have sold a couple but I have also given away a couple
I've given them away because I think they're such great guitars
I've sold a couple because I always thought that there was something better
But I've come to love the simpleness of the D03
And I've come not to care about fancy looks and glossy finishes
In fact I like the beauty and the simplicity of the matte finish D03
I have just bought another diesel three and it will be my last
But it won't be my last larrivee
I really believe in these guitars and I really believe in the company
You get so much for your money
And it when it really comes down with the sound of this wonderful guitar is unequaled
Yes you can get probably a slightly different sound from other brands
But I really love the balance and projection of the larrivee brand
So yes flaky as it seems I am back to the larrivee
I really like the beginning post really tells it like it is
God bless

You've given away a couple?  WOW!  Someone got lucky there and recv'd a lifetime guitar.  What type of D-03 do you have?  Canadian-made or American, etc.?  Mine is Canadian. 

Actually I have a d02
Mahogany made in the USA
Wonderful wonderful guitar
Rosewood instead of Ebony fingerboard and bridge
But the sound is very similar to any d03 that I had before
It really could be one of the best guitars out there

Quote from: DaveyO on April 06, 2022, 03:55:27 PM
Actually I have a d02
Mahogany made in the USA
Wonderful wonderful guitar
Rosewood instead of Ebony fingerboard and bridge
But the sound is very similar to any d03 that I had before
It really could be one of the best guitars out there

I've got a friend who owns a D-02.  I'm pretty sure his has an ebony board/bridge, but I'll look more closely next time I'm at his house.  It's more plain-Jane than my D-03 but I love his guitar. 

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Larrivee/Vintage-1996-D-03-Acoustic-Guitar.gc

Bumping an old thread to showcase a really good deal.  ^^^

I have long maintained that the D-03 is the best overall guitar in the world.  It's not only the best value but it's versatile and is really the only guitar most anyone would ever need.  I often cruise the GC site to look at used stuff, rare finds, and of course the occasional Larrivee arrival.  Today I came across this D03 used for a mere $809!  It goes to show that one need not spend a pile of money to get a lifelong keeper/player.  This guitar could make someone very happy.  I hope it ends up in someone's hands that will play it daily!

 :nice guitar:

I have always been curious about the D-03 instrument. I went with the 40 series as I was reading on the Maury's Music Blog a discussion of scalloped vs non-scalloped bracing on Martin instruments.  Maury's contention was than the top is more open with the scalloped bracing and the dealer I work with contends that the 40 series has a better sustain than the 03 instrument. As a fingerstyle player, I decided to the 40 series because of the sustain factor. I'd love to see a side by comparison of the 03 vs the D-40.

Quote from: William2 on February 10, 2024, 11:59:18 AMI have always been curious about the D-03 instrument. I went with the 40 series as I was reading on the Maury's Music Blog a discussion of scalloped vs non-scalloped bracing on Martin instruments.  Maury's contention was than the top is more open with the scalloped bracing and the dealer I work with contends that the 40 series has a better sustain than the 03 instrument. As a fingerstyle player, I decided to the 40 series because of the sustain factor. I'd love to see a side by comparison of the 03 vs the D-40.

The D03 was a gateway drug for me that ended up being all I needed. 

It's gotta be the mahogany!  Rosewood is more beautiful, but I am learning to love mahogany so much!

Quote from: StringPicker6 on February 10, 2024, 12:44:24 PMIt's gotta be the mahogany!  Rosewood is more beautiful, but I am learning to love mahogany so much!

Mine is neither but is Blackwood, kind of a best of both worlds. 

Quote from: Silence Dogood on February 10, 2024, 12:45:57 PMMine is neither but is Blackwood, kind of a best of both worlds. 

Is it African or Taz/AU? One is a rosewood and the other Acacia, and very close to koa. In practical terms, pretty much the same thing. Both are great, IMO. I think people will really grow to appreciate Acacia once companies start marketing it better.

Quote from: B0WIE on February 10, 2024, 10:30:11 PMIs it African or Taz/AU? One is a rosewood and the other Acacia, and very close to koa. In practical terms, pretty much the same thing. Both are great, IMO. I think people will really grow to appreciate Acacia once companies start marketing it better.

Mine is Australian.  Looks a lot like Koa.

I came across this review of the Larrivee D-03R and it also reviews the 000-40R. I found this to be an excellent review and good playing demonstrations on these instruments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOkKvcAMNZA&list=FLS3tqXJPPAJqoixuwOYW9yg&index=17

Here is my guitar's back and sides (complete with a bit of buckle-rash):

Quote from: StringPicker6 on February 10, 2024, 12:44:24 PMIt's gotta be the mahogany!  Rosewood is more beautiful, but I am learning to love mahogany so much!

I love mahogany. Interesting to hear what the new 24 series with adi top sound like though it's 40 series and I do prefer the normal bracing. Can you remind me why your preference is changing from rosewood to mahogany?

Question: are newer Larrivee "better" than older? I have never been into rosewood but heard one on YouTube recently and was wowed. I used to think only mahogany had a growl to it but now I'm thinking that's part of the Larrivee sound because this OM09 has a similar growl. Are the newer ones ALL braced with moon spruce? I don't know how that affects tone.

All mine are 02/03 bar my OM05. I have to say... The OM05 has eventually outshone the rest. It has a very vibrant feel to it and even more growl than my others and it's one of the newest so will sound even better in time. Satin does sound a touch more open but I swear the woods must be better or SOMETHING because the OM05 is glorious.

Anything bigger than an OM hurts my ears. A recent discovery which is prompting my L05 sale (market is dead, though).

So given the 05 is so amazing... I must admit I've been lusting after either a NEW OM09 (newer ones better??) or a used OM10... Hmm.

The best Larrivee is the one in your hand!

Quote from: Silence Dogood on February 11, 2024, 03:04:07 PMHere is my guitar's back and sides (complete with a bit of buckle-rash):

That just validates its Texas pedigree.  :bgrin:

I'm on phone and can't see pics for some reason but who was it that did the OO demo Sitka Vs Italian top? I would love to hear that again...

Quote from: guitarman001 on February 16, 2024, 02:03:29 PMI'm on phone and can't see pics for some reason but who was it that did the OO demo Sitka Vs Italian top? I would love to hear that again...

I didn't find a 00 demo but found an OM demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DaVuHswCMM

Ah yes I like that one... The moon spruce sounds better to me there.

Quote from: Silence Dogood on January 15, 2022, 08:21:29 AMWe all know Larrivee makes the best guitars in the world, but I have concluded that they in fact make THE best guitar ever designed: the D-03. 

Recently I was thinking about when I first learned about Larrivee.  I guess it was around 1997 when I began seeing these very plain-looking (yet elegant) guitars on the wall of my local Guitar Center.  They were hanging on the wall next to the high-end makers, but priced at something like $450.  I could not then pronounce the name but I was intrigued.  Each time I would pick one up I would be absolutely blown away by the feel and sound.  There were usually two or three on the wall at any given time, and they were always D-03 models (I never saw the other styles till many years later). 

I was very young back then and always broke, so five bills for a guitar was a ton of money for me, plus I was mostly an electric guitarist.  I had an acoustic then, just not a very good one, and went through another lousy one before realizing I really needed something better.  With a young family and bills it was going to be near impossible to get a Taylor, Martin, Gibson, but those plain-Jane Frenchy-sounding guitars at GC were only around $500 and they sounded as good as the Taylors, et al.  I rat-holed and saved up money for a long time till I had about $600 that diapers, baby formula, and bills somehow didn't devour.   I was all set to buy a regular D-03 and finally have my "real" acoustic guitar when I found a blackwood model used for around the money I had saved.  I bought it and that was about twenty years ago now.  I don't have any more electric guitars but I still have my D-03.

So why is the D-03 the best guitar in the world? 

Versatility.  Of course anyone who can play well can play anything on any guitar, but a dread is overall a very versatile guitar.  Some would say the L-body is probably the most versatile (and a Larrivee original design gives it a cool-factor all its own), but the world over recognizes the dread as pretty much the original steel string acoustic guitar. 

Sound.  Come on, just play one. 

Aesthetics.  Being so plain and understated, they just look cool, they age well, and such a classic design will never be hipster or outdated.  They transcend all trends and will stand the test of time. 

Price.  This where the D-03 really makes sense, especially on the used market.  I still look almost daily online and on my local Craig's List at used guitars and routinely see D-03s going for well under $1000.  This makes it the most accessible high-end, small shop-made guitar in the world.  I still see them selling for around $600-$700. 

My D-03 is a lifetime guitar for me.  I love all Larrivees, and maybe some day I'll have the ability to become a collector and get a roomful of them, but I'm pretty sure my old guitar will still be my favorite.  Do you have a D-03?  What do you think?

I referenced this thread in the recent D03 swamp ash thread and went ahead and reread the entire thing.  I want to add another point to my list of reasons the D03 is the best guitar in the world:

EBONY.  This should have been in my original post but somehow slipped my mind.  Of course, you get ebony with every Larrivee guitar, but you don't automatically get ebony with every other maker.  I remember 20-some years ago when I got my Larrivee and was looking around at all the other options in my price range.  I found a Martin D16GT that I really liked, but the FB material was "micarta."  That was honestly the main factor that turned me off from an otherwise really wonderful guitar.  I mean, do you really want a guitar whose FB is made out of the same wood used for molding and other "wooden" accessories in an RV?

 :nanadance

I knew I was going to keep my guitar for the rest of my life, and I seriously wondered if that micarata "wood" would end up crumbling to bits someday? 

Even with many "high-end" Gibsons you end up with a chalky and cheap-looking rosewood board and bridge rather than ebony.  Ebony looks better and feels so much better under the fingers than any other FB wood. 

"EBONY.  This should have been in my original post but somehow slipped my mind.  Of course, you get ebony with every Larrivee guitar, but you don't automatically get ebony with every other maker.  I remember 20-some years ago when I got my Larrivee and was looking around at all the other options in my price range.  I found a Martin D16GT that I really liked, but the FB material was "micarata."  That was honestly the main factor that turned me off from an otherwise really wonderful guitar.  I mean, do you really want a guitar whose FB is made out of the same wood used for molding and other "wooden" accessories in an RV?"

I totally agree with what you are saying. I would only buy an instrument that had the woods I wanted. I almost bought an Iris recently. I wanted the Roy Schmeck 12-fret model. But I just couldn't get past the alternative wood offerings, 2-piece neck, and the bolt on neck.

Quote from: William2 on May 18, 2024, 10:53:39 AM"EBONY.  This should have been in my original post but somehow slipped my mind.  Of course, you get ebony with every Larrivee guitar, but you don't automatically get ebony with every other maker.  I remember 20-some years ago when I got my Larrivee and was looking around at all the other options in my price range.  I found a Martin D16GT that I really liked, but the FB material was "micarata."  That was honestly the main factor that turned me off from an otherwise really wonderful guitar.  I mean, do you really want a guitar whose FB is made out of the same wood used for molding and other "wooden" accessories in an RV?"

I totally agree with what you are saying. I would only buy an instrument that had the woods I wanted. I almost bought an Iris recently. I wanted the Roy Schmeck 12-fret model. But I just couldn't get past the alternative wood offerings, 2-piece neck, and the bolt on neck.

Plus IRIS has the worst (to my eye) headstock design/font I've seen.  They should go back to the drawing board with that one. 

I've been listening to these sound comparisons of the D-03 and the D-03R. I'd have to say in this simple format of just single notes, I prefer the sound of the rosewood over the mahogany. I'd say the D-03R is the best guitar in the world LOL. I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these as the last instrument. Do you think the 03 series is too close sounding to a D-40? Should I just get something different? Is there more clarity in the lower register of the instrument compared with a 40 series?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4aJexKxe9w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7aHg7JeZU

A D03R would be a great lifetime keeper.  I've never played one but have played several regular mahogany D03 models.  I've liked them all.  Mine has Blackwood backs and sides and is a bit muddier than a mahogany model, but I'm used to it. No one guitar does everything perfectly but once you bond with one the strengths stand out more than anything else IMO.

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 13, 2024, 02:43:46 PMA D03R would be a great lifetime keeper.  I've never played one but have played several regular mahogany D03 models.  I've liked them all.  Mine has Blackwood backs and sides and is a bit muddier than a mahogany model, but I'm used to it. No one guitar does everything perfectly but once you bond with one the strengths stand out more than anything else IMO.

Well, here is the instrument I am considering and here is my D-40R I bought in 2021. Are they too much the same? I do want a Larrivee with the non-scalloped bracing and the only other I am thinking about is ordering a D-03 all mahogany. Several months ago, I bought a Martin 000-15SM. I really like it but wish I had waited and got the D-15. Oh well, at least I have a 000 instrument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7hW4fsPl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F3XtqHtqI

I don't know anything about bracing (scalloped or otherwise).  I never have fussed over that stuff.  I just believe the D03 is an amazing, basic guitar that can do pretty much anything. 

Interesting that the list price for a Larrivee D03 and Martin D18 with a satin finish are within $50 of each other. Pretty much the same list price difference between a D03R and a D28 with satin finish. I have not played a satin finish Martin but my Larrivees each have a satin finish. The Larrivees all have wood binding and the Martins have plastic binding and I'm cool with both.

Different strokes for different folks.

Quote from: teh on November 14, 2024, 04:34:46 PMInteresting that the list price for a Larrivee D03 and Martin D18 with a satin finish are within $50 of each other. Pretty much the same list price difference between a D03R and a D28 with satin finish. I have not played a satin finish Martin but my Larrivees each have a satin finish. The Larrivees all have wood binding and the Martins have plastic binding and I'm cool with both.

Different strokes for different folks.

One of the other differences between the Larrivee's and the Martins is the Larrivee 03 instruments are non-scalloped (a reason I'm considering owning one). I believe all the versions of the Martin D-18 have scalloped bracing now. And the bracing on the Martin D-28 Satin and gloss standard are also non-scalloped.

My D03 was made back in the day when they were using white plastic binding.  My son's has black plastic binding. I don't care for the black at all.  Wood binding looks great to my eye though.  YMMV. 

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 15, 2024, 08:40:54 AMMy D03 was made back in the day when they were using white plastic binding.  My son's has black plastic binding. I don't care for the black at all.  Wood binding looks great to my eye though.  YMMV. 

I like wood binding also. It is one of the reasons I prefer Larrivee over Martin. Yesterday I spent most of my practice time on the Martin 15-000SM. I love the clarity and sustain of a mahogany top. I thought I'd order a Larrivee D-03mh. But I ended up pulling out a Larrivee spruce top and WOW, you can't beat a spruce top LOL. I also listened to a lot of different sized guitars and was considering the Martin 000-17 because it has a different sound than so many guitars. But reflecting on this I decided not to. I love that sound, but I think it only works for certain types of music none of which I play. So, I'll think this over the weekend and probably end up calling Dave about the D-03R he has. I just want his opinion on this.
Is it too much the same instrument as the D-40R? I just got a Hercules 5 holder guitar stand and only have 4 guitars. I was thinking of telling Dave, I have this 5 guitar stand and only 4 guitars. Can you help me out?

I love my white binding!
 :wave

That does look nice against the dark wood.

That white binding does look nice.

One thing I noticed with my D35. Over the past 48 years, the lacquer on the binding has yellowed with age and chipped off from play wear giving the guitar a relic'd look. Also the plastic (a/k/a boltaron) used on the binding is really durable and protects the edges of the body and the neck. I'd be interested to see if that happens to your D03.

Quote from: teh on November 17, 2024, 04:46:32 PMThat white binding does look nice.

One thing I noticed with my D35. Over the past 48 years, the lacquer on the binding has yellowed with age and chipped off from play wear giving the guitar a relic'd look. Also the plastic (a/k/a boltaron) used on the binding is really durable and protects the edges of the body and the neck. I'd be interested to see if that happens to your D03.

I don't think my binding has any finish on it.  The guitar itself is matte-finished and maybe the binding was put on after, or masked off?  I don't know.  I don't know what the binding is made of exactly, but some of these high-quality plastics last a long time.  The pickguards on old mandolins and old Martins come to mind. 

I have noticed that the wood binding on current larrivees is susceptible to getting dented if I'm not careful.

Well, I finally made my decision to buy the Larrivee D-03. The decision was based on wanting something I didn't already have and that was the non-scalloped bracing on a Larrivee guitar. This instrument impressed me on a video Dave Dalton of Woodstock School of Music made. And while Dave usually prefers scalloped bracing, he said this instrument sounds particularly good. I'm very excited. It should arrive tomorrow and then I'll own the BEST guitar in the world.

Quote from: William2 on November 21, 2024, 07:15:48 AMWell, I finally made my decision to buy the Larrivee D-03. The decision was based on wanting something I didn't already have and that was the non-scalloped bracing on a Larrivee guitar. This instrument impressed me on a video Dave Dalton of Woodstock School of Music made. And while Dave usually prefers scalloped bracing, he said this instrument sounds particularly good. I'm very excited. It should arrive tomorrow and then I'll own the BEST guitar in the world.

Hands down, no contest THE BEST guitar in the world!  Congrats. 

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 21, 2024, 09:19:01 AMHands down, no contest THE BEST guitar in the world!  Congrats. 

LOL!!!

I have to admit, I really want to try out a D-03 now. All the reviews say they are amazing.

Quote from: StringPicker6 on November 21, 2024, 06:46:32 PMI have to admit, I really want to try out a D-03 now. All the reviews say they are amazing.

Worth trying. For me, it was the Larrivee I owned for the shortest amount of time. I liked it, but the volume it gave back for the amount of input I had to give was no where near what I got from the SDs. Guitars are all down to personal taste though. So, when someone says a guitar is the best they ever played, I believe them.

Quote from: B0WIE on November 21, 2024, 07:45:46 PMWorth trying. For me, it was the Larrivee I owned for the shortest amount of time. I liked it, but the volume it gave back for the amount of input I had to give was no where near what I got from the SDs. Guitars are all down to personal taste though. So, when someone says a guitar is the best they ever played, I believe them.

Your D03 was quiet?  Mine is plenty loud but not the loudest dread I've ever played for sure.

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 22, 2024, 12:19:11 AMYour D03 was quiet?  Mine is plenty loud but not the loudest dread I've ever played for sure.

The D03R and both L03s I've owned were definitely not loud. About average. The D02-12 has good volume. The SDs and J were LOUD and the D-09 was equally as loud, but it was Brazilian so it's not an equal comparison to a D03. 

 The music I play doesn't usually sound good with a hard attack, so I prefer instruments that give a lot of volume even with a light stroke. If I was strumming classic rock or country, a D03 would be more than loud enough. They're great guitars. I just felt I had better options for soft strumming and fingerstyle.

Quote from: B0WIE on November 22, 2024, 03:03:28 AMThe D03R and both L03s I've owned were definitely not loud. About average. The D02-12 has good volume. The SDs and J were LOUD and the D-09 was equally as loud, but it was Brazilian so it's not an equal comparison to a D03. 

 The music I play doesn't usually sound good with a hard attack, so I prefer instruments that give a lot of volume even with a light stroke. If I was strumming classic rock or country, a D03 would be more than loud enough. They're great guitars. I just felt I had better options for soft strumming and fingerstyle.

That makes sense.  My own guitar definitely quietens down when I play fingerstyle, but it will wake up to vocal-drowning volume when I use a pick - especially a stiffer one.  I have learned how to adapt to all its idiosyncrasies and mostly get it to do what I want it to do. But like I said somewhere else here, I don't believe any one guitar does everything perfectly, but in my experience, the D03 could get the average player through life.  I've only played a few L-bodies in shops over the years.  I could never warm up to the shape of them.  They look like classical guitars to me, and while I love classical guitars, I love them as classical guitars exclusively.   

I think what I look for in a guitar is a quality of sound. I sold my Martin DSS-17 as soon as I saw a demo by my dealer of the Larrivee D-40. The DSS-17 had that quick response and loud sound due to its light weight and extra-large body dimensions. But it just never sounded that pretty. even with different string types. I would put my Larrivee D-40 on a par with that Martin any day and I think most would prefer the Larrivee just because of its sound. I am curious about the new D-03 as to whether it has that clearer balance in the low end of the instrument that I've seen people mention. I can tell by the demo it sounds as loud as my Larrivee D-40R when I compare that video. The instrument should arrive this afternoon. I think depending on your technique, the dreadnought can sound just as effective fingerstyle as with a plectrum. I recently added just a bit on nail to my plucking hand. And I can play as incisively as a plectrum player. Here is a short video of a D-03 played hybrid style. The player is using fingernails, and it blends perfectly with his plectrum. I really like this sound. In the end, my other 3 Larrivee's I just love and have never seriously thought of selling. I'm sure this new one will be the same. Maybe if I sell that Martin 000-15SM I could get one more Larrivee. And it would be a 12-fret D-40.  I should have bought that when it became available, but I had just purchased the 14-fret D-40, and my wife would have had me committed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENSz29rFrA

William,

Congratulations on finding a guitar to enhance your playing style. From previous posts, it's clear that you have put a lot of thought and research into your decision. Here's hoping that this D-03 brings you years of enjoyment.

The dreadnought is one of the most versatile body shapes for multiple playing styles. I learned to fingerpick on a straight braced, Martin rosewood dread and it was my only guitar from 1977 to 2004. When I want/need more volume, I use a Fishman Humbucking soundhole pickup and run it through a 60 watt  Loudbox Mini acoustic amp.

If you want to try something different once you get your new guitar, buy a set of S.I.T. Royal Bronze Acoustic Strings RL1254 for $8.99. S.I.T. means "Stay in Tune and the string company was founded in Akron, OH in 1980 by the people that run Lay's Guitar Shop founded in 1962. I use light gauge strings on most of my guitars and I've used 2-3 sets of SIT Strings.

www.sitstrings.com

I currently have five Larrivees, three Martins plus an Alvarez Artist and a few other miscellaneous instruments. In my case, it's not a fear of my wife having me committed. It's more a case of running out of space in my guitar room.

"I currently have five Larrivee's, three Martins plus an Alvarez Artist and a few other miscellaneous instruments. In my case, it's not a fear of my wife having me committed. It's more a case of running out of space in my guitar room." I will check out those strings.

LOL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWiDFPDxRQ

^^^  This isn't a studio quality recording but just something recently captured with my iPhone.  It's also worth noting that I'm tuned down a whole step and in 432 Hz from 440 Hz. I'm capo'd and using medium strings (weird combo!).  I've experimented with lots of different tunings, string combos, etc.  Nothing is fixed but I'm always looking for something new that works.  Rather than buying guitars all the time, I'm always tweaking what I have. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9gKG60G9Y

^^^ Here is another quick one where I'm just tuned down a step but still in 440 Hz.  Big strings, big pick. 

My 2004 D-03R was super loud. I had more that one person tell me it was the loudest acoustic they ever heard. And of course it had that beautiful, balanced Larrivee sound! I guess some are better than others...Mine WAS the best guitar in the World! :bgrin:

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 22, 2024, 12:56:40 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWiDFPDxRQ

^^^  This isn't a studio quality recording but just something recently captured with my iPhone.  It's also worth noting that I'm tuned down a whole step and in 432 Hz from 440 Hz. I'm capo'd and using medium strings (weird combo!).  I've experimented with lots of different tunings, string combos, etc.  Nothing is fixed but I'm always looking for something new that works.  Rather than buying guitars all the time, I'm always tweaking what I have. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9gKG60G9Y

Nice videos. I really liked the top one.

^^^ Here is another quick one where I'm just tuned down a step but still in 440 Hz.  Big strings, big pick. 

Quote from: jweave69 on November 22, 2024, 01:20:17 PMMy 2004 D-03R was super loud. I had more that one person tell me it was the loudest acoustic they ever heard. And of course it had that beautiful, balanced Larrivee sound! I guess some are better than others...Mine WAS the best guitar in the World! :bgrin:

Well, I just got the instrument a while ago and am very happy with it. I agree with you, it is a loud instrument. Mine is as loud as any of my other three dreadnoughts. I do agree it has a nice balanced sound, and I particularly like the lower register of the instrument. This instrument has really got me re-thinking the non-scalloped bracing. But I think mine has to be the best guitar in the world LOL.

William2, thanks for listening!

Quote from: teh on November 22, 2024, 11:09:05 AMThe dreadnought is one of the most versatile body shapes for multiple playing styles.

I personally disagree, but it really depends on what one means by multiple styles. The dread is a more bass-heavy guitar and they never have the immediacy of attack that a smaller or even mid-sized instrument has. They just can't because of the physics involved in body shapes. If you're looking at popular music, it's definitely versatile. No doubt. If you're looking at a wider range, I feel it lacks the versatility of an OM, L, etc.

OBVIOUSLY, the only solution is to own ALL the body sizes!   :nana_guitar

I get up early and usually use my morning coffee to play studies on the guitar. Today I compared the D-40R with the new D-03R. There is a difference in their sound which makes me happy that I didn't buy a repeat instrument. I find the D-03R to be more articulate than the D-40R. This particularly evident in arpeggios and tremolo studies like the Brouwer Etudes #3 and #6 as well as the Villa lobos #1 and Carcassi Study in a minor. The bass notes are more are to my ear cleaner or clearer. I really like this a lot. The D-03R reminds me of my Martin 000-15SM. That mahogany has such a clarity of notes except in the lower register. But the D-03R has that clarity throughout its compas plus the prettiness of the spruce top. I may not need the Martin anymore LOL. I don't notice any difference in the picking hand needing more effort to get a certain volume on either instrument. My D-40R has those magical first and second strings that just have such a nice sustain, but the new D-03R is no slouch either and hasn't been played daily for three years either. I may end up becoming a non-scalloped player.

I have to admit, over the years I've become a lot more interested in 00-, 000-, OM-sized, etc. guitars.  The smaller body is more comfortable to play than a dread, and sometimes they just look cooler.  As an example, I really love the Larrivee 00-03 model, but I would want one that joins at the 14th because I like playing way up on the board.  It seems like lots of smaller guitars join at the 12th for some reason.

Quote from: William2 on November 23, 2024, 07:28:02 AMI get up early and usually use my morning coffee to play studies on the guitar. Today I compared the D-40R with the new D-03R. There is a difference in their sound which makes me happy that I didn't buy a repeat instrument. I find the D-03R to be more articulate than the D-40R. This particularly evident in arpeggios and tremolo studies like the Brouwer Etudes #3 and #6 as well as the Villa lobos #1 and Carcassi Study in a minor. The bass notes are more are to my ear cleaner or clearer. I really like this a lot. The D-03R reminds me of my Martin 000-15SM. That mahogany has such a clarity of notes except in the lower register. But the D-03R has that clarity throughout its compas plus the prettiness of the spruce top. I may not need the Martin anymore LOL. I don't notice any difference in the picking hand needing more effort to get a certain volume on either instrument. My D-40R has those magical first and second strings that just have such a nice sustain, but the new D-03R is no slouch either and hasn't been played daily for three years either. I may end up becoming a non-scalloped player.

The D03R sounds like a keeper for sure!  I have always like the look of RW back and sides up next to a mahogany neck, particularly on a Larrivee since they seem to have the most beautiful mahogany necks around.  I don't know if it's the particular way they stain them or what, but the neck wood on my guitar has always been one of my favorite things about it.  I would love to hear some samples of your Larrivees if you ever wish to do a recording. 

Quote from: teh on November 22, 2024, 11:09:05 AMWilliam,

Congratulations on finding a guitar to enhance your playing style. From previous posts, it's clear that you have put a lot of thought and research into your decision. Here's hoping that this D-03 brings you years of enjoyment.

The dreadnought is one of the most versatile body shapes for multiple playing styles. I learned to fingerpick on a straight braced, Martin rosewood dread and it was my only guitar from 1977 to 2004. When I want/need more volume, I use a Fishman Humbucking soundhole pickup and run it through a 60 watt  Loudbox Mini acoustic amp.

If you want to try something different once you get your new guitar, buy a set of S.I.T. Royal Bronze Acoustic Strings RL1254 for $8.99. S.I.T. means "Stay in Tune and the string company was founded in Akron, OH in 1980 by the people that run Lay's Guitar Shop founded in 1962. I use light gauge strings on most of my guitars and I've used 2-3 sets of SIT Strings.

www.sitstrings.com

I currently have five Larrivees, three Martins plus an Alvarez Artist and a few other miscellaneous instruments. In my case, it's not a fear of my wife having me committed. It's more a case of running out of space in my guitar room.

I've not seen a set of S.I.T. strings for a long time.  A few years ago at the Dallas Guitar Show there was a rep there from S.I.T.  He was selling sets of strings for something like $5.  I picked up some, and if memory serves I liked them ok.  I'm not sure if I achieved superior tuning stability or not, but they did seem to work just fine. 

I remember back in the 80s and early 90s, those strings were always in the guitar mags.  All the rockers from my time (80s) seemed to be endorsed by them. I guess their focus is more on the international side these days since I hardly ever see mention of them in the States anymore.  Great big world out there with lots of pickers!

 I'd be willing to bet that the Dreadnought is the most prevalent  body shape available today.

SD,
Larrivee would probably build you a 00 with a 14 fret neck if you asked and were patient. I think a 00 cutaway is rare because it's harder to build. Both of my L bodies have a Venetian cutaway that I paid a $250 upcharge for so I can play all the way up the neck. I never waited longer than seven months, even during COVID, for any of my three Larrivees with minor custom modifications.

None of my guitars are an exact duplicate of any of the others. The closest match would be the wood choices in two of my Martins. Both have a Sitka spruce top and three piece Indian Rosewood back and sides, 14 fret, 25.5" scale and a sunburst finish.

That's where the similarities end. The tonal differences between the two are that my 48 year old D-35 sounds like my 18 year old OM-35 on steroids. I also have seven other guitars with various wood combinations, body shapes, scale length and bracing. Having said that, my D-35 would be the last guitar to leave the field for several reasons:

1) It's my first good guitar purchased new almost 49 years ago.
2) It's my oldest guitar. The wood has aged well and settled in nicely.
3) It's easy to play and rings like a bell.
4) It's versatile, the one I learned to fingerpick on and is a great rhythm guitar.
5) I can tune my D-35 down one or two steps to get close to the sound of a baritone.
6) It's the reason I bought a dreadnought first.

Respectfully Bowie, Some of my earliest influences primarily played a 6 string dreadnought including Gordon Lightfoot (D-18, D-28, D-35, D-45, Custom McGlincy Dread); Michael Hedges used a D-28 as his main stage guitar; Jim Croce (D-21, D-35) and his lead guitarist Maury Muehleisen also used a D-18 and D-35 for composing and recording; John Fahey also played a D-35. There is also a YouTube clip of Roy Clark playing the classical song Malagueña using a steel string D-35 on The Odd Couple TV show for Tony Randall and Jack Klugman.

In closing, the SD-24 caught my eye when this series was first introduced earlier this year but an all mahogany 00 was on the top of my wish list.

I do agree that the dread is the most popular body size. It's the guitar of the baby boomers, the generation that really popularized the acoustic guitar and have kept acoustic sales strong.

I've seen guitar dealers on AGF say that dreads no longer dominate sales, and that it's pretty well spread out across body sizes with the OM being the biggest seller now. But, I think that may be for the mid level to high end market. I'd bet that dreads still sell the best across all price ranges. Doesn't change my thoughts on versatility but they are the most iconic acoustic and the only one that sold in any real volume for decades.

Personally, I'd take a Larrivee L over an OM size guitar. The L just has a bit more bass but still comfy.

Well. this is day 4 of my new D-03R. I have to say this is now maybe my favorite Larrivee. I absolutely love the clarity in the lower register compared with my D-40R. I love how my D-40 mahogany sounds with its note separation. This D-30R has that and also has that sound that rosewood gives. Comparing the D-03 with the D-03R, I also was more attracted to the sound of the 03R on videos. It is a richer sound. And this 03R has that richness, plus the clarity and note separation I get with my D-40. So, I have to say, you non-scalloped brace D-03 lovers know what you are talking about LOL.

Congratulations. There's no better feeling than getting a guitar that checks all of the boxes on your wish list. Glad to hear you are enjoying it. This guitar will make the Wisconsin winter fly by.

Quote from: William2 on November 26, 2024, 04:51:17 PMSo, I have to say, you non-scalloped brace D-03 lovers know what you are talking about LOL.

Why yes we do... :bgrin:  :roll

I'm just finally getting caught up here.
Silence Dogood: Very nice video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9gKG60G9Y  :thumb
William: Congratulations on your new D-03R, and may it bring you many years of pleasure playing it.  :beer

Quote from: Queequeg on November 26, 2024, 06:17:40 PMI'm just finally getting caught up here.
Silence Dogood: Very nice video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9gKG60G9Y  :thumb

Wow, thanks, man!  I came up with that little piece and grabbed it real quick with my iPhone.  There is a little chorus effect at the end of the video that I still can't figure out how I did.  I will say that the video really does capture the sound of my guitar very well.  It sounds just like that in real life.  Kind of jangly and bassy all at once. I love it. 

So far, the OM is my favourite... sits well, does fingerstyle and chords well, not too big, no overpowering bass.
I have yet to try a Larrivee OO...

Quote from: guitarman001 on November 29, 2024, 10:50:10 AMSo far, the OM is my favourite... sits well, does fingerstyle and chords well, not too big, no overpowering bass.
I have yet to try a Larrivee OO...

I'm a big fan of OMs, too.
The thing about that "overpowering bass" is that it is easily controlled with the right hand technique.
There, when you want and need it, lighter, when you don't.

Quote from: Queequeg on November 29, 2024, 11:12:47 AMI'm a big fan of OMs, too.
The thing about that "overpowering bass" is that it is easily controlled with the right-hand technique.
There, when you want and need it, lighter, when you don't.

Well said. It's all about technique. I will say that this D-03 is the most balanced of my dreadnoughts. There is no overpowering bass, just very balanced.

Damn... Obviously I've not been playing them right ;)

Technique can control bass but it can't make an L or D sound like an OM.

Quote from: Queequeg on November 29, 2024, 11:12:47 AMThe thing about that "overpowering bass" is that it is easily controlled with the right hand technique.
There, when you want and need it, lighter, when you don't.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.  And this is one of the advantages of playing just one guitar for many years as well: you get to learn every little nuance of the instrument and how to get out of it just what you want.  If I had a room full of nice guitars (which I would enjoy having!) I'd never have had to figure out my guitar so thoroughly and completely. 

Quote from: guitarman001 on November 29, 2024, 04:37:57 PMDamn... Obviously I've not been playing them right ;)

Technique can control bass but it can't make an L or D sound like an OM.

mkay.

Well, it's true :)

Btw does anybody here tune to non-A440? The G on one of my is hitting that "dead band" and I find if I just tune it out a bit, it resonates gloriously once again :D

Quote from: guitarman001 on November 30, 2024, 09:00:50 AMWell, it's true :)

Btw does anybody here tune to non-A440? The G on one of my is hitting that "dead band" and I find if I just tune it out a bit, it resonates gloriously once again :D

I usually keep my guitar in 432 Hz tuned a whole step down.  I love that tuning. 

I almost never tune to standard. Usually half a step down, sometimes a whole. Whichever sounds best on that particular instrument.

When I took an 11-year sabbatical from guitar and took up the recorder, I got involved in these different pitches.
I had a set of renaissance instruments built for me at466Hz in mean tone tuning, a standard 440 set, and a baroque set pitched at 415. On these wind instruments it really can add to the flavor of the music. From what I am seeing is that now recorder builders are upping the ante and making them at 442 pitches. Ultimately, it became apparent Americans aren't sophisticated enough to buy pro instruments. I pianist friend said she always liked the guitar and with that I sold my recorders and now have the best guitar in the world, the Larrivee D-03.  I've never had that urge to change pitches with the guitar. My ear is tuned to E 440 pitch. I would think you would get into a lot of string issues with the guitar. And it doesn't enhance the music on the guitar, but that is my ear. The other thing for me is that at least half of my repertoire consists of music in non-guitar keys (Ab.Eb,Db,} so maybe I am getting the effect that many guitar players seek changing their guitar pitch. I've also never been a fan of alternative. maybe it is laziness, but to me it looks like and easy way to get something done.  But on the D-03 you only need one pitch, 440 and you will be just fine LOL.

Is there a particular tuner you can use for A432, maybe a Stroboclip? And do you use a higher gauge string set since tuning down gives less tension?

I'm mainly doing it to get the sustain back on the G note for one or two guitars.

11 years is some break, wow! So you're liking the symmetrical bracing, great!

Quote from: William2 on November 30, 2024, 06:23:17 PMWhen I took an 11-year sabbatical from guitar and took up the recorder, I got involved in these different pitches.
I had a set of renaissance instruments built for me, a standard 440 set, and a baroque set pitched at 415. On these wind instruments it really can add to the flavor of the music. From what I am seeing is that now recorder builders are upping the ante and making them at 442 pitches. Ultimately, it became apparent Americans aren't sophisticated enough to buy pro instruments. I pianist friend said she alw3ays liked the guitar and with that I sold my recorders and now have the best guitar in the world, the Larrivee D-03.  I've never had that urge to change pitches with the guitar. My ear is tuned to E 440 pitch. I would think you would get into a lot of string issues with the guitar. And it doesn't enhance the music on the guitar, but that is my ear. The other thing for me is that at least half of my repertoire consists of music in non-guitar keys (Ab.Eb,Db,} so maybe I am getting the effect that many guitar players seek changing their guitar pitch. I've also never been a fan of alternative. maybe it is laziness, but to me it looks like and easy way to get something done. tunings for the most part. But on the D-03 you only need one pitch, 440 and you will be just fine LOL.

First off, you are correct that the D03 is the best guitar in the world.  Glad that is firmly settled! 
 The Larrivee company should pick up on this and add it to their marketing.
:laughin:

I can only go by my own experience, but for me, tuning down to 432 Hz really does enhance the music.  It seems to have a "lush" quality to it.  I use that word 'lush' on purpose, because it literally means "rich and providing great sensory pleasure."  That is the best way I can describe that tuning on my guitar.  It takes away the tightness of 440 and seems to let the guitar breathe a bit more, relax more. 

I won't spend my time on the conspiracies behind all this and how it does this or that to the brain/body: I just don't live life in that way, though I have people close to me that do.  But I have to admit, the only reason I heard about 432 was from these "ideas" and it got me curious enough to try it out.  Paul Davids (hot shot YouTuber) even has a nicely done video on this that I watched (I admit I skipped all the talk and went straight to the sound samples though).  Here it is in case anyone is curious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt3EAPDn-Ug

There are many things in life I cannot fully explain but just accept, and I suppose this tuning became one of them.  I don't know just what it does or why exactly, but I loved it and enjoyed playing my guitar more, so I ended up sticking with it.  The slightly less tension is also part of the equation.  Not all guitars are setup the same way, and sometimes I think a particular guitar wants to be played in a certain way.  I can say for sure that my guitar seems to have been built for lower tunings.  In this way it was serendipitous for this guitar to find its way into my hands, or what Dr. Jung would have called synchronicity. 

I was reading something recently about mandolins, the Gibson F-style in particular.  It seems like the article stated that when that design from Mr. Loar came about, the standard pitch of the day was something like 427 Hz. I don't trust my memory on this, but I do know it was less than 440 but it also wasn't 432.  I'm not sure how people landed on 432 being the "magic" number; finding that out would require me to go down rabbit holes and reddit posts, and like I said, that's not my thang!

As a strange side note I'll give you personal story: Each year my wife and I go to a friend's Christmas party and sing carols. My wife's sister comes along and provides harmony.  We usually get together a couple times before the party just to be on the same page.  I didn't tell them the other day that my guitar was in 432, but as we went through the list of songs, they kept saying that something was just off a bit.  Their harmonies weren't the same and they couldn't put a finger on it.  I tuned back up to 440 and the problem was solved.  Perhaps their ears and brains are tuned to 440?  I don't know!   
 :wave

Anyway, I say enjoy whatever tuning you like and play your guitar in good health. 

Quote from: guitarman001 on December 01, 2024, 03:47:40 AMIs there a particular tuner you can use for A432, maybe a Stroboclip? And do you use a higher gauge string set since tuning down gives less tension?

I'm mainly doing it to get the sustain back on the G note for one or two guitars.

11 years is some break, wow! So you're liking the symmetrical bracing, great!

https://www.guitarcenter.com/DAddario-Planet-Waves/NS-Micro-Headstock-Tuner-1375800279142.gc?template=0y7n73MAL4Km&cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_channel=paid-search&utm_source=google&utm_platform=google&utm_campaign=GC_G_NTM_PLA-PMX_N_Accessories&utm_ct=pla&utm_tactic=prospecting&utm_segment=accessory&utm_term=&utm_content=1375800279142&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAr7C6BhDRARIsAOUKifjTqGiTblsLQLFvYb1cK5DOB4Zfiyd7s1NDqpLi6wyhisPwNmphtwUaAhHREALw_wcB

^^^ This is the tuner I use.  There are some buttons that go side to side that allow you to choose a certain  pitch.  Around the time I got interested in 432 Hz I realized this tuner (that I already owned) could do this.  Again, another example of synchronicity? 
 :?

Years ago when I started tuning down a whole step, I took my guitar to the luthier and had him set it up for lower tuning with medium strings (in 440 because that's all I knew at the time).  I can go down from there into 432 Hz (and even play in drop D from there) and still have enough tension and no buzzing.  Maybe it was just the way he set up the guitar, or like I said in my previous post to William2, perhaps my guitar was just made to be played this way? 

At any rate, give some of this stuff a try if you are curious, especially if you have more than one guitar.  You've got nothing to lose and you might find something you love. 

Experimentation should be encouraged, if only to rule out an idea that "might work, for me".

Think of all of the crazy new ideas that have helped form the instrument as we now know it.

Steel strings?

New body sizes?

Different bracing patterns?

Finger picks?

Electric pickups?

Alternate tunings???? 

 Many phone app tuners (most of which are free) will let you tune off of 440. You don't need a special tuner.
I don't tune like this because I sing and I absolutely do not want to train my ears and vocal muscle memory to be off from the rest of the world. But, some people prefer it for their own reasons.

I was thinking about the original post on the D-03 and why it is the BEST guitar in the world (Versatility, Sound, Aesthetics, Price). Daisy chain playing through my 4 Larrivee dreadnoughts I am thinking the D-03 is taking first place. This says a lot since it is so new. It might be the most powerful and it has great note separation and sustain that I really like. I'm anxious to hear how it in a couple of years. I 've played a lot of sized guitars in the last years and classicals when I was young. The poster is correct when he said you can play anything on any guitar, but the dreadnought has so many possibilities. I understand if you are a singer, you may want something doesn't overwhelm your voice and is comfortable to hold. And there are some singers like that Quinton on Acoustic letter that wants to hide his voice behind the dreadnought LOL. But playing some studies this morning, I was impressed by how nice the instrument sounds at low volume. I have that extra something if I need it, but it isn't a main treason I play this instrument. I've actually come to like the looks of the square shoulder dreadnought body style more than the traditional figure 8 shape. And I kind of view the L and SD bodies as a somewhat niche thing and not quite delivering all the goods a square shoulder dread can. I've owned several burst instruments, but over time I just became tired of the look. I like the plain non-burst look. And as far as price, This new D-03 sounds better that all the past 16 guitars over the last 7 years. If you aren't a singer, but a player, I'd really consider owning a D-03.

I'm a singer and a player and still say it's the best guitar in the world.
 :nanadance

Quote from: Silence Dogood on December 02, 2024, 11:52:17 AMI'm a singer and a player and still say it's the best guitar in the world.
 :nanadance

LOL!!!

Singing is an interesting topic though.  It took me a lot of years to know just how to properly sing and play guitar. For more years than I care to admit, it never occurred to me that this was even an issue or a cause for concern.  Everyone starts out just sawing away at the chords and often times drowning out the vocals, me included.  But somewhere along the way I learned to dial things back and play with more nuance and became a much better performer.

These days I could sing with a quieter guitar or a banjo-killer.  It's figuring out the particular dynamics of any given instrument that is key.  YMMV.

William it's great to hear your take on the symmetrical series - I was keen to see what you thought as you praised the 40 highly but symmetrical has always been my fave by a long shot.

Good points earlier - some guitars might suit other tunings / uses etc than others... And it pays to experiment. Thanks for the tuner link!

Just bumping this thread up so the world will know. 
 :wave

LOL!!! I really love mine. In fact, it is my D-03R that has really made me question getting a 24 series. I would like a 12-fret dreadnought and if I decide to do this, it will be with the non-scalloped bracing (a D-03R 12-fret). And if I don't get a 12-fretter, I'll probably get another D-03 al mahogany dreadnought.

I still miss mine. It was an old 90's rosewood model that had resided in St Pete's and the humidity made the braces and bridge come loose. I fixed everything with hide glue and glossed up the satin, which made the already thin finish paper-thin. After that, it had such an airy, mellow tone. The overtones from the rosewood were glassy and beautiful. But, I had just discovered the SDs. The D03 whispered compared to their roar so I sold it to someone on here for way too little. Can't keep em all I suppose....

I knew you'd little the original symmetrical bracing. Best for sustain and complexity of notes. 12 fret even better for sustain.

OM05, though, has to take top spot for me. Something really magical about it and I've got the 02 and had the 03 equivalent.

I was cruising my local "for sale" spaces this AM and saw a mint D-03 for $800, and I bet the fellow could be talked down a bit from there.  For less than the average car payment these days, one could have a lifetime guitar (beyond a lifetime actually since it could be passed down and played for many more years).  The D-03 really is the best guitar in the world. 
 :nice guitar:

We all know the D-03 is the best guitar in the world, but I wonder if Larrivee keeps track on what is their bestselling instrument?

They don't need to keep track. It's obviously the LV-09, since that is the REAL greatest guitar in the world.  :nana_guitar

It would be cool to know what their best-selling model is.  I'd think the D03 for the price, but then again, they aren't nearly as cheap as they used to be. 

The P-03 is also a popular model, as well as the OM-03 and OM-40R

God yeah, the p-03 is great.

I'm not a rosewood guy but the new moon spruce and rosewood parlour I got from them is AMAZING.

Let's face it, they're all just fantastic!

Hey, I am new, this is my 1st message ever in a forum (Add a choco version please  :donut  :donut2  :donut ).
I tryed so many dreadnought guitars in the last months looking for an high end dreadnaught and I really liked the Larrive D03 Deluxe SE, I can buy one for around 2900 euro (I am in Italy) but i can't find any informations about how limited this run is, how many D03 Deluxe SE exist? And also, what are the differences besides aesthetics compared to a normal D03? Is it worth it?
I love vintage guitars but since I don't have money in my account I can't buy from a private individual, I can only buy in monthly installments in the shop. Thanks guys!

Quote from: Guera94 - LarriGuee on May 15, 2025, 03:57:16 AMHey, I am new, this is my 1st message ever in a forum (Add a choco version please  :donut  :donut2  :donut ).
I tryed so many dreadnought guitars in the last months looking for an high end dreadnaught and I really liked the Larrive D03 Deluxe SE, I can buy one for around 2900 euro (I am in Italy) but i can't find any informations about how limited this run is, how many D03 Deluxe SE exist? And also, what are the differences besides aesthetics compared to a normal D03? Is it worth it?
I love vintage guitars but since I don't have money in my account I can't buy from a private individual, I can only buy in monthly installments in the shop. Thanks guys!

I've never heard of a deluxe SE, but the D-03 can be had with a StagePro Element. Maybe that's the SE designation.(?) If that's the case, I wouldn't consider it a limited run. It would be the same as a regular D-03 but with the pickup. I'm sure others will chime in with more Larrivee experience than myself. Anyway, welcome to the forum...and if you haven't heard, that guitar you're considering is the BEST guitar in the world! :smile:

I think he might be referring to the D03R worth vine inlay?

Guera94

First, welcome to the Larrivee Guitar Forum.

You can find a lot of good information and gain a lot of insight from regular participants. Also review the Larrivee Guitar website as an additional resource and there are some nice videos from the Larrivee family discussing the history of the company and their designs.

The D-03 would be an excellent choice for your first Larrivee and I am a big fan of their satin finish models and as a result I have four of them. As you can see from this thread, the D-03 is a popular model. I am not familiar with the pricing and availability of Larrivee Guitars outside of the U.S. and Canada but their quality is unsurpassed. One factor that sets Larrivee apart is their selection and preparation of the wood used in their guitars.

From my experience, I am not a fan of "barn door" pickups like the Stage Pro Element referenced in one of the posts but many people love them. I prefer non-invasive pickups with soundhole controls and an endpin jack. I also use a Fishman Humbucker soundhole pickup for some of my other guitars.

Keep us posted on your decision and visit the Larrivee Forum on a regular basis. 

Quote from: Guera94 - LarriGuee on May 15, 2025, 03:57:16 AMHey, I am new, this is my 1st message ever in a forum (Add a choco version please  :donut  :donut2  :donut ).
I tryed so many dreadnought guitars in the last months looking for an high end dreadnaught and I really liked the Larrive D03 Deluxe SE, I can buy one for around 2900 euro (I am in Italy) but i can't find any informations about how limited this run is, how many D03 Deluxe SE exist? And also, what are the differences besides aesthetics compared to a normal D03? Is it worth it?
I love vintage guitars but since I don't have money in my account I can't buy from a private individual, I can only buy in monthly installments in the shop. Thanks guys!

Hello, and welcome to the Larrivee obsession!  In my experience, every D03 model will sound a little different, so there's no way to say which one to get over another.  But one thing is for sure: ANY D03 will sound great because it's impossible to get bad results with the perfect ingredients.  My son has a D03 (though his has mahogany back/sides and mine has blackwood) and it sounds very different than my guitar.  I think his sounds better (louder with more overall punch, but mine is warmer and more mature-sounding), but I like mine more because it's mine.  But either of them would be a fine choice for a lifetime guitar. 

The bottom line is: the D03 is the best guitar in the world.  Full stop.  End of discussion.   :tongue:

I say get one (any of them) and play it in good health for many years to come. 

Here's a cool story and a bit of interesting trivia for D-03 owners and potential buyers. 

I pulled my Summer-Fall 2005 Larrivee Catalog which has a two page history summarizing some of the high points of the company. This included a paragraph on the development and introduction of the D-03 back in 1997. Jean's vision was to produce an all solid wood guitar with a single piece neck for under $1,000. The D-03 was originally scheduled for a limited run of 1,000 guitars but demand led the company to make it a standard model.The simplicity of the 03 series with its satin finish, dovetail joint and maple body binding make it a great value.

In the interest of full disclosure: For both sentimental and practical reasons, I will never part with my 1976 Martin D-35 that was the first good guitar I purchased new in early 1977. I also have an OM-35 purchased 30 years later to complement the D-35. Both have spruce tops and rosewood back and sides, 14 fret guitars with 1/4" top bracing but the OM-35 has scalloped bracing and a 1 & 3/4" neck.

Larrivee might consider changing their "Makers of Fine Guitar for Over 50 Years" to:

"Makers of the Best Guitar in the World." 

 :nanadance

 :nanadance  :nanadance  :nanadance  :roll

Quote from: guitarman001 on May 15, 2025, 05:36:26 PMI think he might be referring to the D03R worth vine inlay?

Yeah, the D03 Deluxe SE (SE is for special edition) is a special D03 with vine inlays on the neck, bridge and head and amplified with L.R. Baggs in the hole.
There are only 6 in the world, it's a very limited edition. Now I am very undecided, my big doubt is whether to buy this D03 Deluxe SE new, in installments from the shop for 2900 euros or a 1989 D10 Custom from a guy near me for about the same price. Both are aesthetically spectacular, the D10 even has a griffin on the head.
This D10 features a Fishman under the bridge added years later (I don't know how invasive this modification is, it certainly compromises the originality of the guitar, is it such a bad thing in your opinion?)
Now, from what I know, the D10 is much more expensive new than the D03, so I wonder, is the difference really that big? Are the woods really that much better?
Thanks in advance for the advice and for the welcome, you are a beautiful group, even if I don't have one yet I'm already in love with these guitars!
 

From what I have learned on this forum, Larrivee wood is always highest quality, but they may use better looking wood visually on the 10 series, as well as more design and inlays, and also the gloss finish.

I've had an OM-02, OM-03 and OM-05 all the exact same model and woods.
The OM-05 is by far the best of the lot.
The OM-03 I sold.
The OM-02 (original factory, I think) being satin has a deeper bass but overall the bass response isn't as full as the OM-05.
Larrivee say that the higher series use better woods and I believe, strongly, that these models are an upgrade.
My OM-05 really is noticeably "better" - it feels alive.

So, the 05 is the greatest guitar in the world? It gets back to this question I always have, Is the gloss finish responsible for this superior sound? I just don't like gloss finish. And if gloss yields a better sound, I may have to re-think my ideas. I have even considered a higher end model without the gloss finish, but not if the finish is the secret.

I didn't think I'd be into the gloss finish but it's really nice on the OM-05.

Maybe it is the finish, I don't know.

I think Jean was quoted as saying that they might take more time to open up due to the gloss but that the better quality wood will shine through eventually. That's been bang on re my OM05 as sounded tight at first then 2-3 weeks of ToneRite and it's a MONSTER. Sometimes you get e.g. the G on low-E string being a bit thuddy with some guitars but all the notes on mine ring true and sustain forever.

I like satin for the parlours because they are a bit more open with initial more thump in the bass.

Are you near many shops? I was at my local this lunchtime.... because I am spec'ing a Halcyon and wanted to try different body shapes, woods etc. This is what I found.


It was an Aladdin's cave - so many guitars today.

Martin OO-18V I keep reading is great as has the same bridge spacing as Larrivee unlike the rest, which feel cramped for fingerstyle to me. I felt this guitar was a bit lifeless.

Multiple Martin OO-18 and OO-28... all felt different and had a different sound, not overly consistent. I wanted to specifically try the 24.9" scale OO 12 frets and I got to do that with OO-18, OO-28 Deluxe and also a Collings OO sitka/rosewood. I preferred the Martin to the Collings (!) but the lower scale length really resulted in a lot less bass oomph than the 14 fret OO but I just read that they are the same scale length (sure didn't feel like it).

Basically, I prefer the way Larrivee does it, moving the bridge down as opposed to bringing the shoulders up. Even on my parlours, the bass and overall tone is better than the 24.9" 12 fret Martin/Collings OO which both appeared to just move the shoulders up. I felt like Martin, Collings, Bourgeouis were almost replicas. None were as comfy as Larrivee to play. Got to try an adi/bubinga Bourgeouis -> nice enough tone (more mids than EIR) but I prefer the Bhilwara and Borneo rosewood I've got.

A Taylor Amazon rosewood sounded decent. Couldn't find any Madagascar.

There was a used LV-03R. Didn't sound shrill in the highs at all (usually how it sounds on videos) but it confirmed to me that whilst lovely, it might be a step far if I got the OM-10 since I already have the very similar OM-05.

I tried a Cole Clark (iirc) all-Tassie-Blackwood guitar. I loved it... the trebles sound so different to anything else. This is definitely the back & sides wood I will get on the Halcyon.

So - now I am set on the back & sides wood and a longer scale.

Anyway....... coming back home, I pulled all my guitars out. Absolutely no contest -> my Larrivee & Northwood just kill everything else in terms of looks, comfort, playability, quality (control), resonance and tone. Initially I was lured by that deep-ish Martin bass but when I went back after playing the LV-03R, I knew what I preferred...


Anyway, apologies. Suggest going to try all these even if it means a day trip - could be fun! :)

Guera94

Either guitar would be a good choice but here's a two factors to consider.

1) The D-03 is a great choice and buying an extremely limited edition (1 of 6) would be appealing. Larrivee also does a satin finish better than anyone so there's that to consider too.

2) The D-10 is part of Larrivee's top of the line series. In addition to a guitar with a headstock featuring Wendy Larrivee's art, you would be getting a guitar with 36 year old wood. I'll bet it sounds great.

3) I am unclear about what you mean about an L.R. BAGGS pickup "in the hole" on the D-03 Deluxe SE or the Fishman "under the bridge" in the D-10 Custom so I can't offer any input. I did add factory installed "no cut" Anthem pickups to my last two new Larrivee guitar purchases (LSV-03 and 00-24). If I decided to remove or replace either pickup, these pickups were minimally invasive as opposed to a "barn door" pickup.

Best of luck with your decision if you choose one of these guitars.

No argument here, though I'm a D-09 player/owner over D-03.

I came across this short video this morning comparing the D-03 against a Boucher. I think for this style of playing the modern bracing (non-scalloped) sure wins. But then the D-03 is the best guitar in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI3R-qYfOxg

The fact that it's being compared to an instrument more than twice it's cost is a pretty strong compliment.

Quote from: William2 on Today at 09:57:08 AMI came across this short video this morning comparing the D-03 against a Boucher. I think for this style of playing the modern bracing (non-scalloped) sure wins. But then the D-03 is the best guitar in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI3R-qYfOxg

I'm curious as to why you might focus on the bracing when comparing a 2017 Boucher Adirondack/rosewood with a
2024 Larrivee moonwood/mahogany.

Quote from: Queequeg on Today at 12:44:51 PMI'm curious as to why you might focus on the bracing when comparing a 2017 Boucher Adirondack/rosewood with a
2024 Larrivee moonwood/mahogany.

The tone wood is a point taken. But I just felt the D-03 sounded some much more powerful or that the player was able to dig in more with the D-03. Where the Boucher and for that matter the Larrivee 44 with the scalloped bracing seemed to reach its limits on the strumming demo. I thought the Boucher with the Adi top may have been the winner. Too bad the player didn't do a fingerstyle demo also.

For what I do, I liked the 000-44R and the Boucher, but I bet that D-03 would be a great flapicking guitar.