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« on: April 14, 2005, 03:36:40 PM »

Don't know if this has been noticed/discussed on the forum (I couldn't find it in a search)

http://www.buffalobrosguitars.com/images17...d100/index.html

They are asking $100k for it. I like inlay as much as anyone, but wonder if I am the only person who views this as a bit over the top? :huh:

On another note, something I have been meaning to discuss for a while is guitar pricing versus other instruments. I am primarily an amateur violist, and have two violas, a cello and a violin in addition to the guitars listed below (I also sing in two choirs). My best viola and the cello, if replaced currently, would probably cost in the $4-5k range. These would be considered "good student" instruments, or perhaps as a second instrument for a professional. A professional would be more apt to own something in the 5 figure range, with six figures not be out of the question for someone playing in a large professional orchestra.

Its always struck me as odd how you can buy a top quality guitar, basically the same ones used by the pros, for so much less than a top quality violin.
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 04:59:24 PM »

Hey Mark,
  I think we as guitar players are extremely fortunate. A hand crafted, top quality guitar can be had for less than alot of other wood instruments. Compare the price of a Goodall or Ryan for example, pricey yes, but a heck of a lot less than a top notch violin or cello as you mentioned. A friend of mine payed 6k (it may have been more I forget) for his Hardanger fiddle and had to wait almost 3 years to get it. Maybe it's supply and demand. There are tons of guitar players out there who are serious enough to pay x amount of dollars for a boutique guitar. On the other hand, I would imagine there are less options for someone who wants to purchase a fine cello,viola, or violin. When I see what other high quality instruments cost, I'm glad I play guitar....and kazoo. :)


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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 05:04:22 PM »

My feeling is that they are not really instruments (or, more precisely, they are "coincidentally instruments") but "objets d'art".

They appeal, I'm guessing, to collectors (who may or may not play) and not players. There is a tremendous amount of labor injected into that guitar, very little of which is dedicated to making it supremely playable, beautiful in tone and performance, or exceptionally stable and durable. It's different than a great Cremonese violin or cello where the value is in the "musicallity" and rarity.

That said, I'm sure someone will buy it.

Personally, I find the high end Martin inlay to be a bit "much" for my taste. Assuming I had that kind of disposable income, which I don't, I still would not be inclined to acquire that sort of guitar. I'd probably go the route of Scott Chinery and try to get a few "Blue Guitars".

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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2005, 05:26:11 PM »

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When I see what other high quality instruments cost, I'm glad I play guitar....and kazoo. :)
Is there a kazoo acquisition syndrome? And can you buy inlaid kazoos?  :lol:  
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2005, 10:49:31 PM »

OMG, who would pay 100K for that thing, okay maybe someone would, but even if I was made out of money I wouldn't.

100 thousand clams for that guitar which probably killed a 100 thousand clams in the process LOL. :D  
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2005, 01:16:16 AM »

ive always liked inlay...and i appreciate all that work that went into that guitar...but i dont really care for that one myself...id take it if someone gave it to me though!
check out the inlays on this page...

http://www.williamlaskin.com/gallery2.html
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2005, 02:38:33 AM »

Sorry, it reminds me of a few customers I saw recently with many tatoos... Not that I have anything against tatoos, I just don't want them on my guitar.  B)  
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2005, 04:29:19 AM »

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check out the inlays on this page...

http://www.williamlaskin.com/gallery2.html
the 100K model is just to much for me.  
To much money
To much inlay

The William Laskin site is amazing. He is without a doubt one of the masters of his craft.  
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2005, 12:08:29 PM »

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check out the inlays on this page...

http://www.williamlaskin.com/gallery2.html
the 100K model is just to much for me.  
To much money
To much inlay

The William Laskin site is amazing. He is without a doubt one of the masters of his craft.
Well, he learned from the best, Jean Larrivee
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2005, 12:34:54 PM »

$100K is the retail price on that Martin.  I don't think any are selling at retail, though it begs the question if a standard discount makes it a better deal at $70K.  At any rate, the upcharge is for the many hours spent on inlay work.  Whether one likes it is a matter of taste.

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2005, 12:13:41 AM »

Maybe it's like the guy selling pencils for $10,000 apiece.  When told he wouldn't sell many pencils at that price, he said:  "All I have to do is sell one!"  :lol:  
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