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« on: January 12, 2022, 10:00:45 PM »

Happy new year everyone,
I am in search of a small bodied mahogany 14 fret guitar. I have my eye on the Guild  OM 120, Also the Martin OO and OOO 15 and 17 series. My concern with the Martin guitars is that they are pure blues boxes which I don’t want. I have a budget ceiling of $2,000. Your input would be appreciated thanks in advance 
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2022, 12:06:59 AM »

Go with the Guild or an old Gibson Like a B15 which I have and really like and most of all my first brand name guitar and my first repair.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2022, 12:39:36 AM »

My advice would be to drop the preconceptions (Martin mahogany as pure blues, sorry but  rolleye)...  you make the guitar, not the other way around.  Close your eyes and go play every guitar you can and pick the one that feels and sounds right regardless of the headstock.

A short anecdote...  quite a while ago, thru some horse trading, I had accumulated a small (big for me at the time) sum and was out for a nice guitar.  I had pretty well settled (in my mind) on a Martin OO18 or something close.  I was sure I wanted mahogany/spruce small body Martin.  I spent 2 months going to every store within 50 miles of my house to try every guitar I could.  Finally, a shop a mile and a half from my house got a new shipment in and I tried a few...  one really caught my attention.  It was <gasp> a Taylor.  It had a spruce top, and a small body, but the back and sides were <double gasp> maple.  Two days later I went and bought that guitar.  It was my main guitar for a bunch of years.

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2022, 03:11:29 PM »

My advice would be to drop the preconceptions (Martin mahogany as pure blues, sorry but  rolleye)...  you make the guitar, not the other way around.  Close your eyes and go play every guitar you can and pick the one that feels and sounds right regardless of the headstock.

A short anecdote...  quite a while ago, thru some horse trading, I had accumulated a small (big for me at the time) sum and was out for a nice guitar.  I had pretty well settled (in my mind) on a Martin OO18 or something close.  I was sure I wanted mahogany/spruce small body Martin.  I spent 2 months going to every store within 50 miles of my house to try every guitar I could.  Finally, a shop a mile and a half from my house got a new shipment in and I tried a few...  one really caught my attention.  It was <gasp> a Taylor.  It had a spruce top, and a small body, but the back and sides were <double gasp> maple.  Two days later I went and bought that guitar.  It was my main guitar for a bunch of years.

Ed

This is good advice, and a great story.

If you can, go play the Martin 15 Series StreetMaster 000-15M. These guitars have the "played in/worn" finish - which turns some folks off - but it's actually an advantage, because it's a thinner finish than the other 15 Series Martins, which makes for a livelier, louder instrument. I had a DSS-15 StreetMaster and it was a cannon!

Because of the DSS, I also tried a 000-15M StreetMaster, and it was a wonderful sounding guitar - and I played several others in shops that were similar; they sounded much better than the standard 000-15M on the wall hanger next to them. I sent it back only because my old hands didn't get along with the 1 11/16" nut and Modified Low Oval neck shape. I really tried to get along with that neck, because the guitar just sounded so good. But I had to be realistic; my hands aren't getting any younger.

They are wonderful guitars.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2022, 08:24:26 AM »

If I were in the market for an all Mahogany 00, I would probably buy one of Ted's (LA Guitar Sales) custom 00-15 Martins with the Tort binding.

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2022, 11:23:49 AM »

I agree with AZLiberty’s suggestion on the 0015 custom especially if you don’t want to wait. I played one a couple of years ago and should have bought it, but didn’t. As Ed suggested, play everything you can and get the one you like best.

About 10 months ago, I priced out a Martin custom 00 all hog with sinker mahogany and still have the Spec sheet/quote saved. Then along came Mike from the Larrivee Forum last spring with an idea for for another Forum Guitar. I threw in my suggestions for an all hog with a 12 fret slotted headstock, then John Larrivee informed us that they had enough moonwood spruce and walnut to make up to 20 guitars with a 12 fret neck.  Options included adding a Venetian cutaway and a pickup. Decisions, decisions.

After a couple of weeks and with time running out, I jumped on the bandwagon and placed my order for a Forum VI. You might ask, why would someone looking for a smaller bodied all hog guitar buy an LSV W/ spruce and walnut? Here are three reasons:

1) The Forum VI offered a different combination of features that sounded interesting to me.
2) I was looking for a 6 string cutaway  to go with my first custom, an LV03 12 string with a hog top that I ordered in late 2005. While not exactly the same, the Forum VI encouraged me to jump onboard.
3) Based on the positive comments, photos, Mike’s YouTube video and observations from several who already have their Forum VI, I am confident that I made a good decision to join in the fun.

As an unintended side benefit, I can always go back to Larrivee with my original ideas: 00, all hog, 12 fret slotted head stock with a short scale neck and order one. The Forum VI is my second Larrivee Custom and my fourth Custom overall. My first was a custom 4 string Dulcimer made of cherry from a guy my uncle knew in Pittsburgh. I also ordered my third custom, a 000 Martin in 2015 after three years of thinking about it.

In closing Vid, lean in and enjoy your search.

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2022, 07:50:04 PM »

If I were in the market for an all Mahogany 00, I would probably buy one of Ted's (LA Guitar Sales) custom 00-15 Martins with the Tort binding.
I have on of Ted’s Custom Martin 00-15 Gloss (3/4” nut width).  Great guitar and more versatile than one might think.


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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2022, 03:37:08 PM »

A ooo15 has been my main acoustic for 7 years. Playing worship music, folk, and bluegrassy (sort of) stuff. No matter where we played, unplugged, miced, or plugged with an element pickup I've loved my tone and have always been complimented on my tone. Like every time. Not my playing though haha. And I don't even play the blues.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2022, 06:28:46 PM »

Hi all, Thanks to everyone for their productive comments on my continuous search! The challenge in today’s market is to find enough guitars to actually play with all the logistical issues that are currently involving inventory issues… but as they say patience is a virtue. As we speak, the Martin OOO-15 is the front runner but you never know. I’ll keep you in the loop as the search continues; that is part of the adventure! 
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2022, 06:45:55 PM »


As we speak, the Martin OOO-15 is the front runner but you never know.


I already said it once, but I'll say it again, since you're seriously considering the Martin 000-15. The Martin 000-15 StreetMaster goes to 11. Seriously. Don't overlook it (just because of the cosmetics).
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2022, 05:42:21 PM »

Thanks MikeyMac, The door is wide open including that Martin ooo-15 Street Master…thanks again
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2022, 07:10:47 PM »

Just as we start discussing this, one of the Custom 000-15 models with tort binding is up on my local Craigslist.

Must resist...
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2022, 05:32:08 PM »

Just as we start discussing this, one of the Custom 000-15 models with tort binding is up on my local Craigslist.

Must resist...

Oooo, that would be tough - good luck!  bigrin
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1992 OM-05
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