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« on: January 13, 2021, 12:23:25 AM »

Just received my 12 string. First Larivee and I love it. I'm curious about thoughts on tuning down a semitone or full tone. I've read a lot with some suggesting it will help the neck tension on 12's. This guitar feels "beefy" enough that makes me wonder about the necessity. Other question - any recommendations on capos for this acoustic? Thanks and excited about my ne Larivee!

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 05:23:44 AM »

Both of the 12 strings I owned I used in standard tuning and a few open tunings

Never had a issue

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 06:03:16 AM »

It can definitely help prevent issues. While it should be fine to play it as you like, 12 strings are simply more prone to bellying. It ultimately comes down to which is more important, compromising your ideal set up to avoid a small risk, or enjoying the instrument to the fullest and dealing with any issues that may come up.

Personally, I think my Larrivee 12 strong sounds better with 11's and tuned half a step down so I guess I'm fortunate in that regard.

The best capo for the money is the KatsEyez (sp?) custom made brass capo. They are essentially like those silly $130 capos people in AGF buy, but completely custom sized for your instrument and half the price. They put equal pressure across the fret board to so you don't compromise your tuning (something that drove me nuts with regular capos). No spring either so they don't put unnecessary tension causing fret wear from the strings. Worth looking into.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 01:10:17 PM »

Shubb makes a HQ capo for 12 strings. My experience with Shubbs for over 30 years is that they are durable, reliable, effective and have a relatively low profile. And they're pretty modestly priced compared to some others.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 04:06:49 PM »

It is built to stand up to standard tuning - if it wasn't, Larrivee would tell you so, and wouldn't cover issues under warranty. So tune to standard if that works for you.

G7 makes two capos with a rubber bar notched for 12 strings. I have both and both work well. The Heritage Yoked Capo (more traditional) is $150; the Newport is under 35.  The Newport actually get's in your way less, so it's definitely the way to go, unless you really have to have a traditional yoked capo.

You can buy them directly from England at this link: https://www.g7th.com/12-string

They're also available from Sweetwater at about the same price.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 06:42:01 PM »

Thanks so much. I REALLY appreciate all of your thoughts and recommendations.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2021, 07:10:28 PM »

P.S. I use 12-string sets gauged from .047 (low wound E) to .010 (high plain E strings), and tune to standard pitch. Works fine.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2021, 12:10:10 AM »

I tune mine down a full step with no problems. I also prefer light gauge strings and have no loss of tone or playability.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2021, 11:09:12 PM »

Thanks for all the responses and advice. I love this guitar. Supremely resonant and I haven’t even turned on the Anthem yet. Regarding string tension and neck pressure, this guitar has weight and heft to it. I presume largely to deal with tension. There are so many differing opinions out there about tuning 12 strings. I presume, if you have a well built guitar, tuning down becomes less relevant. But appreciate the array of thoughts and experience.
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