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« on: August 26, 2017, 01:49:04 AM »

Hello all. 
Been snooping around in my 000-40 and found something that has me curious. Does anyone know if all 40 series models have non-symmetrical bracing?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2017, 01:50:21 PM »

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40 Mahogany Legacy Series
The revolutionary new 40 Series features our "Scalloped Parabolic Hybrid" bracing system design.
Based on our tried and true "X-Brace" design, Jean blended a non-symmetrical scalloped lateral cross-bracing pattern with our standard X-Brace. This means maximum strength using the least amount of material. It's a build that allows even further vibration of the soundboard, while still offering a controlled bass response. The 40 Series are built in America using all solid wood, like all Larrivée's, and feature brand new upgrades like bone bridge pins, nut and saddle, diamond fingerboard dots and 18:1 open back tuners. Jean's exciting new design means a fresh new sound that is sure to appeal to traditional and long-time Larrivée players alike.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2017, 02:00:06 PM »

Thanks Steve. I wonder if that applies to all models. My ooo-40 has symmetrical cross bracing, like the 03 models.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2017, 12:36:39 AM »

The -40 series bracing uses the same parabolic X brace as the standard bracing.

The lower symmetric cross brace is replaced by two Martin style scalloped tone bars.  Thus the bracing pattern is no longer symmetric.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 01:50:32 AM »

The -40 series bracing uses the same parabolic X brace as the standard bracing.

The lower symmetric cross brace is replaced by two Martin style scalloped tone bars.  Thus the bracing pattern is no longer symmetric.

Well that's what I thought, but my ooo tells another story. I'm not complaining, for I would have purchased it if it were an 03.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2017, 06:35:38 AM »

Well that's what I thought, but my ooo tells another story. I'm not complaining, for I would have purchased it if it were an 03.

Is there something you don't like about your OOO-40?


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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2017, 01:10:58 PM »

Is there something you don't like about your OOO-40?


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Not since I replaced the saddle.
No, I was only saying the braces are symmetrical, like those of an 03. The guitar is fine.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2017, 05:29:11 PM »

Not since I replaced the saddle.
No, I was only saying the braces are symmetrical, like those of an 03. The guitar is fine.

Gotcha. I am an admitted Larrivee fanboy but, even with that being stated, I was so impressed with my OOO-40 that I just had to get a OOO-40R. Love 'em both. To me, they so much richer than the L-03 I used to own.


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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2017, 06:07:49 PM »

Hi rosborn. I like my ooo, but it's certainly not the best of my guitars.
Have a look inside your guitars to see what bracing style was used.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2017, 07:40:04 PM »

Not since I replaced the saddle.
No, I was only saying the braces are symmetrical, like those of an 03. The guitar is fine.

Ahh.   I presume then that your OOO-40 is one of the older -40 series from a few years back and not one of the newer "Legacy"s series.

The older series -40 were braced with standard bracing like the -50 and -60 series.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2017, 09:03:23 PM »

Hi rosborn. I like my ooo, but it's certainly not the best of my guitars.
Have a look inside your guitars to see what bracing style was used.

My OOO-40 was made in 2015 and my OOO-40R was made in 2016. I assume they both have the Legacy bracing.


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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2017, 09:11:00 PM »

My OOO-40 was made in 2015 and my OOO-40R was made in 2016. I assume they both have the Legacy bracing.


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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2017, 09:34:40 PM »

I am pretty sure the legacy bracing came out in mid 2016.

Could be but I can safely say that my OOO-40 has much more presence than my L-03 ever did.


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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2017, 09:46:55 PM »

I have three D-40's, one was built in August of 2013 and both of the others were built in the fourth quarter of 2016.  In the description of my oldest one I have noted that it was a Legacy model.  Both of the 2016's are customs with Moonwood tops and supposedly moonwood bracing.  I would really like to know if there was a change in bracing pattern over this time period.  How could I tell by using my inspection mirror?  Are there guideline photos in existence?  I wonder if JM Larrivee would care to comment?
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2017, 01:38:57 AM »

 

I would really like to know if there was a change in bracing pattern over this time period.  How could I tell by using my inspection mirror?  Are there guideline photos in existence?


If the braces run straight across the body below the X-brace, that is the traditional Larrivee bracing pattern. If the braces run at an angle across the lower body (as in a Martin), that is the newer 40-Series bracing pattern.
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2017, 01:57:35 AM »

https://m.facebook.com/LarriveeGuitars/photos/a.167965536583794.32283.104036859643329/1556241591089508/?type=3&source=48

This is the guitar I'm talking about, a 2016 model
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2017, 02:17:22 AM »

Hi rosborn. I like my ooo, but it's certainly not the best of my guitars.
Have a look inside your guitars to see what bracing style was used.

I never look inside my guitars, don't even have the tools to do so.  For me, that would be like going into the kitchen of a restaurant I love.  Depending on what I saw, I may never eat there again. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2017, 03:32:27 AM »

Ahh.   I presume then that your OOO-40 is one of the older -40 series from a few years back and not one of the newer "Legacy"s series.

The older series -40 were braced with standard bracing like the -50 and -60 series.

Who knows how it came about, but it is a 2016 model, I think. Bought it new in Sept/ Oct
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2017, 04:13:01 AM »

This is the current -40 series bracing:



You can see the standard X, the horizontal brace above the soundhole, and two scalloped tone bars below the bridgeplate.

The standard bracing has a straight horizontal brace (or 2 - depending on size)  below the bridgeplate instead of the tone bars.

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2017, 03:04:37 PM »

This is the current -40 series bracing:

You can see the standard X, the horizontal brace above the soundhole, and two scalloped tone bars below the bridgeplate.

The standard bracing has a straight horizontal brace (or 2 - depending on size)  below the bridgeplate instead of the tone bars.


All of my 40 series top bracing look just like this, I used an inspection mirror this morning to check them out.  I love the way they sound, but I also love the way the standard and traditional series sound too....  I seem to recall someone posting a pic like this of standard bracing?
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