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« on: August 07, 2017, 11:34:57 PM »

A life time of bronze and phosphor bronze, the loud brash new sound, the slow decline to the lost intonation, harmonic edge as they go dead.
 Going dead, in the summer, with humidity and a lot of shows can be on one gig, or at best on week.

I tried the monels, and they were fine, different, and took getting used to but were consistent from day one to day ten.

Recently, I posted something about the new D'darrio nickel/bronze strings (with the little inside guitar tuner).
 I bought 5 sets.
 I put them on three stage guitars.

no there is no big new string brash sound from them, they're mellow, and clear, stay in tune, and keep their intonation for a couple or more weeks, and don't squeak.

the sound of them changes much less than bronze, and they consistency and stable tuning for live work (cuz I do a lot of that) is pretty important.
 they also really sound great with pick-ups and outboard gear.


 I wasn't sure how I was gonna feel about them, until I put a set of phosphor bronze back on one of the guitars and i had grown used to the subtle warmth of the nickel bronze that the new bronze I just put on just sound brash, & harsh.
 after one night, off they came, and i went back to the new alloy.

so yes, whether it's Monels or these new nickel/bronze strings, it takes some getting used to, but certainly worth it.

just 2 cents from an old guy who didn't think he could learn anything.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 11:48:53 PM »

 +1  I couldn't agree more with your synopsis, exactly what have experienced as well.  I now have either brand of acoustic nickel on more guitars than not...
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 12:14:38 AM »

 You are a good sales man. I am gonna definetly give these a try.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 12:57:00 AM »

 angry CR*P Kevin after years of the same old same old now I have to try a new string............
                                                                                                                               


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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 02:25:13 AM »

ya sorry,
 hey Rob, i try to keep an open mind, and honestly, i really tried my best to poo poo this concept.
 been playing bronze since 1969 or 70, never had an issue.
always loved the "new string day" and that big loud brassy KA CHANG of the first chord after a string change.
and, well, you know the deal, slowly they just become "KA THUMP/KA THUD  and intonation drops 2-5 points as you go up the neck etc.

so honestly, even for this old guy, to discover a new way to listen ( the alloy is a huge difference upon first listen) but the ooze & warmth and consistency just make the journey a better one.
 
Honestly? don't take my word for it.
 try the change, get used to the difference, be sceptical ( I was) then after a week or two, go back to bronze, and give me your opinion....
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 03:39:53 AM »

I'm just so old and in my ways,change come's hard,but I plan on checking them out.Did the tone translate when playing thru a plugged in?I'm using the Bagg's Anthem SL.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 12:15:12 PM »

I'm just so old and in my ways,change come's hard,but I plan on checking them out.Did the tone translate when playing thru a plugged in?I'm using the Bagg's Anthem SL.


I'm not familiar with that pick-up, I have Baggs Elements in most of my guitars and I liked the response through my personal system and through other rigs so far.
I wasn't born yesterday, not is it my first rodeo, but any solid challenge to status quo, from a a new of of approaching things, for me, is always a welcome thing....
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 12:42:05 AM »

I'm still pretty happy with the different alloy strings.
 the D'addario NB strings are slowly replacing the regular bronze strings on my guitars.
consistent from day one, no surprises, long life, get intonation.

not much else to say.

anybody else trying the "new" idea?

thoughts?

(ya it takes some getting used to, but once settled, hard to go back).....

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 01:55:47 AM »

As most may recall, I recently acquired my L-10, played the strings that came on it for about a week then switched to the D'Addario NB'S, I went down to lights, am thinking I may try them in the Mediums to see how those sound.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 02:56:45 AM »

As most may recall, I recently acquired my L-10, played the strings that came on it for about a week then switched to the D'Addario NB'S, I went down to lights, am thinking I may try them in the Mediums to see how those sound.

They make sets of NB's with light tops and heavy bottoms.  I like them.  Sometimes I find the bottom strings I like the most and just change the high E and B strings to a lighter gauge... The tension is better for my old fingers and I still get great tone...

On a side note, there are other brands of nickel that sound good too.  John Pearse makes Pure Nickel (not plated) sets in several gauges and they are extremely resonant.  On some guitars I like Martin Monel Retros and I often mix the gauges to get what I like to play.  Newtone makes nickel plated sets in Master Class acoustic and in their Archtop nickel which are doublewound.  All good...
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2017, 05:37:28 AM »

Oh man...I'd love to try those.  Unfortunately, my nickel sensitivity seems to be worsening with age.  Recently switched to steel strings from nickel on my bass for that very reason. So far the PBs don't cause the cracking and blistering on my fingers that nickel strings do.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2017, 11:38:04 AM »

As most may recall, I recently acquired my L-10, played the strings that came on it for about a week then switched to the D'Addario NB'S, I went down to lights, am thinking I may try them in the Mediums to see how those sound.







I just put a set of NB on my 1980 L10 last night. I think the "bluegrass" set (medium bottoms/light tops) are the way to go for me as well. Yes the Pearse pure alloy Monels are excellent strings, I chose the A'saddaric's because they were giving a nice sound hole tuner away with each purchase....
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 03:33:20 PM »

I can't believe I haven't responded in this thread yet, because I'm "another lover from a different mother" of the Monel Retros (and to a lesser extent, the D'A NB's). Kevin, you're right - once you get used to that warm tone, it's hard to go back.

Some people (on another forum I frequent by the company that makes the guitars as well as the Monel strings - ahem!) say that they only like the Monels on their hog guitars, but not on the rosewood ones. That hasn't been my experience: I like them on both (and on my silver oak C-10).

Some of you like heavy bottom/light tops - cool. But I like a 17 and 13 on the high B and E strings - to get as much meat in their tone as possible. This is easier on older, mature guitars - that thicker tone is there naturally, but on newer guitars, the thicker strings help. Like Barefoot unclrob, I've been known to put a 14 on the high E to really tame the twang...

My favorite set is the Laurence Juber in the Monels: heavy E on the bass and on the high E & B; lighter strings for the A, D & G. It really balances out to a nice playing, balanced set (as long as you don't need to bend a lot on the high strings). The Jubers are a little harder to find - but I can always get them at JustStrings.com. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 03:46:07 PM »

I agree that the heavier gauges do sound better even on the high end, but I just cannot fret them (High e and b) for as long as I want to play.  Any suggestions?
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 05:30:40 PM »


Some of you like heavy bottom/light tops - cool. But I like a 17 and 13 on the high B and E strings - to get as much meat in their tone as possible. This is easier on older, mature guitars - that thicker tone is there naturally, but on newer guitars, the thicker strings help. Like Barefoot unclrob, I've been known to put a 14 on the high E to really tame the twang...

My favorite set is the Laurence Juber in the Monels: heavy E on the bass and on the high E & B; lighter strings for the A, D & G. It really balances out to a nice playing, balanced set (as long as you don't need to bend a lot on the high strings). The Jubers are a little harder to find - but I can always get them at JustStrings.com. 

That's my string testimony an' I'm stickin' to it! 

Mike, ej24's meet that configuration as well.
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