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« on: November 16, 2015, 12:17:30 AM »

Looks interesting . . . wonder how it sounds?

iRig Acoustic Guitar Pickup


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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 04:08:59 PM »

Looks like it's available at Best Buy and Guitar Center, but no Bluetooth? 
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 04:20:03 PM »

  but no Bluetooth?   

I guess because it's meant to plug straight into a "device" - which when then give you your bluetooth - and wifi? blush
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 05:51:06 PM »

Probably sounds like a $50 mic.  Once processed through the AmpliTube app, it will probably sound ok, though not very much like the guitar.

Hmmm...  I guess this is a grumpy day for me.

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 06:11:19 PM »

I read about these and since its only designed to play thru a cell phone I'm out of luck since all I have is and old style flip phone because its a PHONE!!!!!My life does not revolve my PHONE!!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 06:42:59 PM »

I read about these and since its only designed to play thru a cell phone

I think there's a vanilla line out jack -  i.e. you can run it as a microphone - no software needed.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 06:48:21 PM »

some details from eleswhere:

http://www.gizmag.com/irig-acoustic/40373/

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23362-ik-multimedia-introduces-the-irig-acoustic

various different guitars and styles (audio only):
https://soundcloud.com/ikmultimedia

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 01:14:41 AM »

I am betting that it sounds quite good coupled with the app.  IK are right up there with the best with impulse response modeling and it appears that this is part of the app with the calibration feature.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 02:18:19 AM »

I am betting that it sounds quite good coupled with the app.  IK are right up there with the best with impulse response modeling and it appears that this is part of the app with the calibration feature.

Plus . . . the audio recording world is small potatoes compared to the cell phone world.

They are leveraging acquisition technologies that have A) focused on input in extremely diverse/problematic situations and B) had the benefit of very large carrots dangled in front of them for R&D.

It may be a very interesting show between vertical thinking (aka old school microphone technology) vs lateral thinking (with a good shot of Adam Smith's "economy of scale")
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 03:21:18 AM »

Plus . . . the audio recording world is small potatoes compared to the cell phone world.

They are leveraging acquisition technologies that have A) focused on input in extremely diverse/problematic situations and B) had the benefit of very large carrots dangled in front of them for R&D.

It may be a very interesting show between vertical thinking (aka old school microphone technology) vs lateral thinking (with a good shot of Adam Smith's "economy of scale")

Exactly. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 04:25:46 AM »

Plus . . . the audio recording world is small potatoes compared to the cell phone world.

They are leveraging acquisition technologies that have A) focused on input in extremely diverse/problematic situations and B) had the benefit of very large carrots dangled in front of them for R&D.

It may be a very interesting show between vertical thinking (aka old school microphone technology) vs lateral thinking (with a good shot of Adam Smith's "economy of scale")


Huh?  I'm so confused.  I'm still in the same stage as unclerob.  Flip phone.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 04:35:02 AM »

I guess because it's meant to plug straight into a "device" - which when then give you your bluetooth - and wifi? blush

Exactly, its made to plug into a I-phone. I can plug my car stereo into my I phone to play music but I can also toss the plug and just go bluetooth for music and hands free calling. Maybe size constraints, in other words maybe the Bluetooth ability would have made the mic to bulky.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 12:18:50 PM »

Exactly, its made to plug into a I-phone. I can plug my car stereo into my I phone to play music but I can also toss the plug and just go bluetooth for music and hands free calling. Maybe size constraints, in other words maybe the Bluetooth ability would have made the mic to bulky.

If my Fitbit (about 1/4"x3/8"X1") can have Bluetooth, they could fit it in this thing.  But, that would just further degrade the audio (IMO).

I have a tough time believing the tiny little mic element in his thing picks up a wide enough spectrum to be worth much...  of course at $50 it doesn't cost much.  And, I don't trust an algorithm to analyze the signal to get the best sound...  or I don't know, maybe all the professional recording engineers can hit the bricks and look for another line of work, *maybe* it's that good.  It just makes me think "autotune" (or more like autotone) for acoustic guitar.  I got one of the interface boxes for electric guitar.  It was interesting, but didn't do much for the sound of the guitar.

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 02:42:05 AM »

Ok, here's some current realities:  1
  Bluetooth latency makes monitoring the signal pretty unusable.
 2:  Take a look at the capsule in a BLUE snowball MIC and people brag about snowball recordings quote regularly.
3: The irig series is immensely popular due to the ubiquity of iOS devices.  The computing power and signal integrity in some iOS devices outpaces many dedicated recording devices, and the ability to put it right at the strings gives it a reliable position so that the device can be used for impulse response with a high physical acoustic signal to noise ratio.

There are plenty of handheld recorders that are using dinky capsules and you pay for the computing power of the recorder primarily.  You already have that with the iOS devices.

 
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 03:48:54 AM »

When I record something with an I-device, it is for convenience, not fidelity.  For posting something on Facebook or YouTube, this device is probably fine.

And, I've spent that much money on stuff I've been disappointed by before, and probably will again.  Lol!

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2015, 04:42:36 AM »

I read about these and since its only designed to play thru a cell phone I'm out of luck since all I have is and old style flip phone because its a PHONE!!!!!My life does not revolve my PHONE!!!!!

  I'm with you on that one, Rob!
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 05:01:36 AM »

When I record something with an I-device, it is for convenience, not fidelity.  For posting something on Facebook or YouTube, this device is probably fine.

And, I've spent that much money on stuff I've been disappointed by before, and probably will again.  Lol!

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Which is exactly the market for this thing.  I bet it will sound better than many of the much more expensive USB mics like the snowball due simply to being so close to the source.  I have the Blue Mikey which uses an iPhone but getting it positioned right for a good recording is a problem.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2015, 05:01:48 PM »

There are plenty of handheld recorders that are using dinky capsules and you pay for the computing power of the recorder primarily.  You already have that with the iOS devices.

A current iPod is about $250. Add in the iRig mic $50.

So for $300 you have a pickup, with pre-amp (EQs, reverbs etc), feedback suppression, and full recording abilities. You can move it to another guitar anytime you want.

When you're not using the iPod as a guitar pre-amp, you've got a very reasonable 720P video camera (amongst other things).

There could be some futzing happening here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXYo5KEePw but it's unlikely.
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There could be some futzing happening here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXYo5KEePw but it's unlikely.

With my headphones, and even streaming with the compression that youtube uses, I can hear a difference between the two. 

If you are going to suggest that a $50 mic is the same as a $3K+ mic, then I guess this thing is for you.

It amazes me how between digital recording, cheap little button speakers built into a computer monitor, and the various compression methods applied to streaming audio, we have all but given up on quality recording. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2015, 06:26:02 PM »

It amazes me how between digital recording, cheap little button speakers built into a computer monitor, and the various compression methods applied to streaming audio, we have all but given up on quality recording.   

For sure - many people accept obscenely low/no quality playback. However, my quest is for acess to a live solution - other than playing acoustically to only a dozen people at a time in a small room.

With my headphones, and even streaming with the compression that youtube uses, I can hear a difference between the two. 

Of course you can. I'm not suggesting they are the same - just presenting a comparrison.

If you are going to suggest that a $50 mic is the same as a $3K+ mic, then I guess this thing is for you. 

My comparison would be to a $200-300 (plus installation, plus pre-amp) guitar pickup. In particular, the rubber band sound that is an apparently beloved feature of every other pickup appears to be absent with the iRig.
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