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« on: May 02, 2015, 08:23:44 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 08:28:32 PM »




Lots of things wrong here.The more I look the more I find. But this little guitar is a fine sounding parlor and one way or another, at least it will play and sound like a Larrivee should (Eventualy).
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2015, 08:54:28 PM »

Make sure all the cracks are filled before sanding too much.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 08:54:54 PM »

looks like its taking a visit to the tone doctor. Great pictures  
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 08:58:23 PM »

Make sure all the cracks are filled before sanding too much.
Yup, I have a very thin spot right below the bridge area, gonna need a maple patch methinks. But I'm open to all you have to say Rob.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 09:04:35 PM »




 Three cracks in the top, the worst is coming right out of the G string hole and runs to the end of the lower bout.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 09:52:42 PM »




This is a sweet looking Sitka top. As I'm working on this 1999 Larrivee it reminds me of the Vancouver factory and all those folks we met many years ago.Such nice instruments made by good people. I think  about John running Vancouver and hope all is working out now.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2015, 04:17:41 PM »

two ways to go here you can use a wood strip {maple or spruce} to fill the crack or take some wood dust mixed with would glue and fill it that way.A small trick if you already didn't know it is to dampen the crack opening before glueing in the wood strip or the wood dust.When using wood dust and glue the mix should be about the consistency  of cake frosting and pack it in,remember 3 days to cure before sanding.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2015, 04:36:11 PM »

Thanks Rob, I cleaned the bad repair wood strip and glue out of the main long crack and also went ahead and cleaned out the two smaller cracks. Wood dust and glue is a good idea. I'm hoping to make thin strips of spruce from some sound hole cut outs I have from Vancouver. (Gotta keep it as original as possible)
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 09:14:24 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 09:36:03 PM »

     I'm having lots of trouble loading my pictures and being able to write something, so I'll do it separate.
The pic of the guitar shows how far I've got with the cracks and structure.
     What you can't see is the support under the top. The top was so thin and soft near the bridge that you could poke a hole in it quite easily. It is very solid now and the material used was ultra thin, but glued in well.
     The top has been sanded using all the micromesh pads (starting with sandpaper) but only up to the bridge area.
      I used cabinet scrapers on the intire top and will also micromesh the rest as well.
If the top had no cracks then the oil finish could be applied.But it would show all the cracks now.So I may do some coloring and attempt to conceal the large crack repair.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 10:01:19 PM »

Just my opinion here, but it appears those cracks have been there for quite some time and have had time to get dirt and grime crammed in.  I think it's going to be an uphill battle to make the cracks less conspicuous...  Best of luck, and post your methods.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 10:04:16 PM »

     Yes, of course you're right, but I did my best to clean them out. However it turns out,  it's the best I can do at this time.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 10:07:14 PM »

Enjoying the progress!!!
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 10:14:40 PM »

I enjoy restoring these basket cases. There is a point you reach where they are no longer just a neglected mess, rather they have been recovered to playing condition.
        Then the finish is brightened up and the Lil guitar probably ends up in a grandchilds arms.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2015, 11:18:09 PM »

Enjoying the progress!!!

Ditto that!  Thanks for sharing the photos and the written details.
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015, 12:36:18 AM »

I'm glad to see some like this thread. in case anyone is wondering what the red jig is, in the middle picture above. That's a Woodsmith cabinet scraper system, the jig and Mill file sharpen the scrapers and the pin is used to turn the burr.
     Those are well worth the money. I've never even seen anyone use a cabinet scraper, so for many years I've been learning to sharpen and use them properly.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 04:53:04 AM »

I've never even seen anyone use a cabinet scraper, so for many years I've been learning to sharpen and use them properly.

I used to be a pretty mean hand with a cabinet scraper actually.  Probably had something to do with working in a cabinet mill. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 05:44:04 AM »

Scrapers are the way to go with a lot of jobs like yours, Dan.  Once you figure out the nuances of burnishing them and angles of scraping, etc. they can save a lot of time and effort and you end up with a smooth surface that hardly needs any sanding.  I'm still learning but have already benefited from using scrapers many times.  Thanks so much for posting the pics of your project.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 06:32:20 AM »

I also am enjoying the project. The repair looks good, one small shaded area, could be a natural occurrence.  If you want to hide it maybe try a sunburst. Your choice of colors.
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