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« on: March 18, 2015, 04:13:45 PM »

There sure is a lot of buzz about terrified tops on the "other" forum.  I wonder what JCL thinks of them? 
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2015, 07:17:14 PM »

I will have mine spruce, please..... Medium rare.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 07:35:05 PM »

There sure is a lot of buzz about terrified tops on the "other" forum.  I wonder what JCL thinks of them? 


Why would anyone want to terrify a top???I mean its a top what did it do to get this horrid reaction?Does it have something to do with CA or stupid glue?
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 07:47:11 PM »

extree extree.
read about about it.
Acoustic Soundboard: Torrefied Woods—Don’t be Afraid
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 08:05:59 PM »

Interesting reading, thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 08:22:10 PM »

I read the linked article from Acoustic Soundboard and noticed that they said the tops become more brittle, which other builders have also commented on.
Here is the definition of "brittle":
adj. adjective
1. Likely to break, snap, or crack, as when subjected to pressure.
brittle bones.
2. Easily damaged or disrupted; fragile.
a brittle friendship.
3. Difficult to deal with; snappish.
a brittle disposition.

None of those sound good on an acoustic guitar top which is subject to tremendous pressure and tension.     
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2015, 08:50:04 PM »

Taylor now uses Torrrefied tops on it's new revoiced 600 Maple guitars so there is a lot of buzz about Torrefication. I will say never have I played such a rich warm soundinding Maple guitar.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 08:54:26 PM »

I read the linked article from Acoustic Soundboard and noticed that they said the tops become more brittle, which other builders have also commented on.
Here is the definition of "brittle":
adj. adjective
1. Likely to break, snap, or crack, as when subjected to pressure.
brittle bones.
2. Easily damaged or disrupted; fragile.
a brittle friendship.
3. Difficult to deal with; snappish.
a brittle disposition.

None of those sound good on an acoustic guitar top which is subject to tremendous pressure and tension.     

I don't know if all of those definitons are applicable in this context but evidently there have been some Warranty "issues" (as we say in Ann Arbor).
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2015, 09:08:22 PM »

Cook tops? We have a Thermador gas one.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 02:55:13 AM »

Sounds like really good marketing.A magic process.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 03:36:35 AM »

I personally hear a huge difference in guitars that have been played in a lot so I don't doubt that torrefication may be a legit thing.  However, having not owned one or compared it to the same guitar with a virgin top, I can't say if it's a desirable thing or not.  Like most people, I haven't been swayed enough to feel that I need to seek out a torrefied guitar.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 05:27:39 AM »

I want a guitar that is going to stand the test of time and get better with age.  I'd rather have a guitar that I can watch and hear develop and open up over time rather than one that sounds perfect out of the factory but could be more at risk of cracking in the future.  I don't think we know how these Torrefied woods will stand up over time and I don't want to be te guinea pig.
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