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« on: October 18, 2014, 10:37:16 PM »

and whyj? for me its Gibsons, I have never played one that i liked
how about you all?
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2014, 11:07:17 PM »

Don't think I have any.  I may not be a fan of every brand but have never found one I hate. 

(However I haven't played an Esteban or an Urban.)
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2014, 12:06:16 AM »

Anything sold by HSN.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2014, 12:28:06 AM »

I have a hard time playing any guitars where the bridge is suspended higher than a fender style tailpiece or an acoustic with a glued on bridge.  Having my hand suspended out over the guitar is tough for me.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2014, 03:16:13 AM »

Don't think I have any.  I may not be a fan of every brand but have never found one I hate. 

(However I haven't played an Esteban or an Urban.)

I'm in the same boat as you, Steve.

UNLESS you count my very first guitar which was an acoustic my brother and I found in someones garbage can in a back alley.  At the time we thought it was a prophetic omen because we wanted to start a band and could never afford actually buying any instruments.  I was 12 at the time and my brother was 11.  It had a cowboy picture on the front which we immediately sanded off.  After all, we were going to be the next Beatles.  Having a guitar with a cowboy on it was definitely not cool.

I think it was about the size of a typical "folk" guitar; small, but not as small as a parlor.  I don't remember what brand it was, and I don't think we really cared.  It was a free guitar and that's all that counted.  I'm betting it was a harmony or stella now that I know a bit more about guitars. In hindsight, it might be worth some money today, as a collectors item if it still had the cowboy intact.  I remember it had a thin metal tailpiece attached at the strap button on the lower bout, like the cheaper guitars of the day.  I don't remember what the bridge was like or whether it was moveable.  It only had a couple or 3 rusty old strings on it, and that's all we played it with for a long, long time before we discovered how to tune a guitar and scraped up enough funds to buy a set.  Another thing I remember was that we draped a piece of that ball-chain, like you would find attached to your sink drain plug, over the strings in the area of the sound hole.  That was so it would sound more electric when it was strummed

I had no idea about chords, and just played little riffs on it at first.  I think the first one I learned was the riff from the song "Kicks" by Paul Revere and the Raiders.  Another early one was "Wild Thing" by the Troggs; just the notes, not the chords.

Why did I hate that guitar you ask?  Because even at my early stage of understanding these instruments, I could tell that it's intonation was horrible.  And the action was incredibly high.  I had no idea how to make this better, but it's all I had so I made it work.  I am so thankful to my mother who recognized my passion for playing and that the guitar was holding me back.  For my 13th birthday, she bought me a Silvertone acoustic from the Sears catalogue.  It was like heaven, even though it wasn't perfect either.  It was my only guitar for the next 6 years.  On it, I learned all the basics that are the foundation of my playing today.  I performed with it many times, beginning with "Folk Mass" at church and later, "Coffee Houses" in high school and church basements.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2014, 04:15:08 AM »

I truly do not like Taylors. I find all of them sound weak and thin compared to the same size Larrivee or Martin. While the tone is clean I find it simple and uninteresting.  Most seem to be played plugged in which merely gives the sound of the transducer.

Most of all I get irritated by Bob. He claims to have practically invented every aspect of guitar building when actually all he has done is choose techniques solely to maximize profit while offering none of the savings to the consumer. In other words he charges too much. Why he gets it must be due to his company's admitted marketing prowess.

Not long ago bob started claiming to be the worlds expert in choosing lumber featuring pictures him with fielded trees. Remind you of anyone who actually does do that? I expect any day now he will claim to have created trees...
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2014, 04:40:08 AM »

I truly do not like Taylors. I find all of them sound weak and thin compared to the same size Larrivee or Martin. While the tone is clean I find it simple and uninteresting.  Most seem to be played plugged in which merely gives the sound of the transducer.

Most of all I get irritated by Bob. He claims to have practically invented every aspect of guitar building when actually all he has done is choose techniques solely to maximize profit while offering none of the savings to the consumer. In other words he charges too much. Why he gets it must be due to his company's admitted marketing prowess.

Not long ago bob started claiming to be the worlds expert in choosing lumber featuring pictures him with fielded trees. Remind you of anyone who actually does do that? I expect any day now he will claim to have created trees...

I'm not going into bashing here, but yes, I agree, the Larrivees show videos that are the real deal when it comes to choosing woods.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2014, 04:52:04 AM »

I truly do not like Taylors. I find all of them sound weak and thin compared to the same size Larrivee or Martin. While the tone is clean I find it simple and uninteresting.  Most seem to be played plugged in which merely gives the sound of the transducer.

Most of all I get irritated by Bob. He claims to have practically invented every aspect of guitar building when actually all he has done is choose techniques solely to maximize profit while offering none of the savings to the consumer. In other words he charges too much. Why he gets it must be due to his company's admitted marketing prowess.

Not long ago bob started claiming to be the worlds expert in choosing lumber featuring pictures him with fielded trees. Remind you of anyone who actually does do that? I expect any day now he will claim to have created trees...

Well, I stood next to the CNC machine that does most of the rough shaping of necks in the Larrivée plant in Oxnard on a tour given by Mr. Jean Larrivée - this would have been about 2006 or 2007, and he was very proud of the machine and of the fact that his good friend, Bob Taylor, showed him this machine. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2014, 05:43:52 AM »

Well, I stood next to the CNC machine that does most of the rough shaping of necks in the Larrivée plant in Oxnard on a tour given by Mr. Jean Larrivée - this would have been about 2006 or 2007, and he was very proud of the machine and of the fact that his good friend, Bob Taylor, showed him this machine. 
I have had the same experience. CNC makes sense. That is why just about everybody uses them. JCL uses it to keep prices reasonable and value high.  Bob does not offer value. Bob has bought a lot of wood from Jean, but does not give credit where due
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2014, 05:58:42 AM »

For some reason, I  have a problem with the Taylor image but not the guitars.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2014, 01:05:54 PM »

Assuming only "major" brands here (not cheapies or small builders), and acoustics only;

Gibson.  Not saying I have never played one I liked (or loved even), but they are far and few between for me.
Fender.  I don't remember a Fender acoustic that I'd want to own.

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2014, 04:40:57 PM »

Assuming only "major" brands here (not cheapies or small builders), and acoustics only;

Gibson.  Not saying I have never played one I liked (or loved even), but they are far and few between for me.
Fender.  I don't remember a Fender acoustic that I'd want to own.

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2014, 06:58:38 PM »

Cannot imagine a world without Gibson guitars!  Sure they make some duds but they also make many many fabulous guitars
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2014, 08:03:31 PM »

Maton...sorry Tommy Emmanual, but have yet to play one I liked.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2014, 12:33:00 AM »

1:Taylor

2:Takamine

3:Fender
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2014, 01:18:58 AM »

1:Taylor

2:Takamine

3:Fender

Fender is to acoustic
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2014, 01:27:24 AM »

Fender is to acoustic
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2014, 02:38:47 AM »

I had an Applause shallow bowl - never really grooved with it and accidentally cooked it in my car.  Mr. LV19E took it off my hands and I believe turned it into a lefty.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 02:41:55 AM »

I really like the Taylor 8-strings - a very interesting tonal combination.  Just thought I'd throw that in here amongst the Taylor dislike.  I don't like the Taylor open pore feel on their cheaper guitar necks.  The expression pickup system is quite nice for a built-in solution.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 04:03:29 AM »

Cannot imagine a world without Gibson guitars!  Sure they make some duds but they also make many many fabulous guitars

I would never slam the brand.   I've owned three Gibson guitars and two were great but one was a dud:  It happened to be the most expensive of the bunch.  You pay your money and you take your chances, I guess.
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