"plastic" guitar suggestions

Started by broKen, May 24, 2014, 07:16:28 PM

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Hey Y'all,
I've been thinking of getting a non-wood guitar. Any suggestions please. Leaning toward CA OX raw. Cheaper is better but not the little ones. Thanks   :donut :donut2 :coffee
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I've played a few of the CA's and I liked the fact that it has brace's on the top.I'm not sure if they come with truss rods or not,would be good if they did.They've always sounded good to me.
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Thanks Rob. They seem to hold their value too.
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Check out MacNichols guitars ,they carry most if not all of the carbon fiber guitars,,I owned a Cargo a few years back,,sorry I sold it.Good sounding guitar you can take anywhere.
Larrivee L-03 SP

Thanks. Been there and have heard good things about them. I'm looking for some trusted experience/advice from fellow forumites.
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I owned a Cargo but sold it as I couldn't stand the sound hole blaring in my ear. I should have bought the CA OX raw I auditioned it with. A nice balanced good sounding OM.

I prefer the CA brand as they sound like guitars whereas the Rainsongs sound like Taylors to me

The CA neck is very nice and will never move. Unless Peavy added one they don't have a truss rod adjustment.  A minor concern but it would be nice to have
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I havent heard the cargo but the scale keeps me from going there. Thanks Chris
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Well, after playing both of these guitars, a Rainsong 12 string is on my lifetime wish list, as is a Taylor 8 string Baritone.

A friend has a CA dreadnaught and it's surprisingly heavy.  The Rainsong would sing just by what seemed like breathing on the strings.
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Thanks Scott. Rainsong makes their "shorty", which is a twelve fret short scale, but they are high $$$ for me.
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Rainsong "shorty"

Body is basically the same size as my Om-03R, slightly shallower.  This is one of the AGF customs from Ted at LA Guitar Sales.


Quote from: AZLiberty on May 29, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
Rainsong "shorty"

Body is basically the same size as my Om-03R, slightly shallower.  This is one of the AGF customs from Ted at LA Guitar Sales.


Need a description of the tone and playability of that Rainsong!  The only thing I don't care for is the huge truss rod cover on the headstock. Really? On a guitar with a carbon neck that probably doesn't even need a truss rod? It should be more inconspicuous...
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I think some composite material guitar makers specifically build the necks so a truss rod will allow custom setup.

I got in BIG trouble on another board (I got banned!) for calling plastic guitars what they are...  plastic.   :laughin:

I have had a couple...   not my bag, though there were a couple Rainsongs that were nice.  They were a bit high dollar for what they were IMO.  They are all durable as heck.  Except for a few Rainsongs, plastic guitars just don't have the tone I was looking for.

Ed

Hope I didn't offend using "plastic" to refer to those instruments. Are they some kind of resin reinforced with carbon-fiber woven fabric? Maybe I should ask this on some other site.

Edit:  Nevermind...I went to find out for myself.
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Composite guitar necks will bow over time.Plus I don't want want someone telling me how much relief should be in a neck.Thats like telling me I can't use my heavy guage strings.
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Hey Rob, if the builders know that, wouldn't they save themselves some problems and warranty issues by using truss rods?
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Quote from: broKen on May 30, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
Hope I didn't offend using "plastic" to refer to those instruments. Are they some kind of resin reinforced with carbon-fiber woven fabric? Maybe I should ask this on some other site.

Edit:  Nevermind...I went to find out for myself.

That resin is plastic.  That was always good enough for me to define the guitars as plastic guitars.  There were people who took offense.  They took offense at my just saying that the resin was plastic.

Ed

Quote from: Mikeymac on May 30, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
Need a description of the tone and playability of that Rainsong!  The only thing I don't care for is the huge truss rod cover on the headstock. Really? On a guitar with a carbon neck that probably doesn't even need a truss rod? It should be more inconspicuous...

Playability is great.  When I first got it I thought it was a touch to bright.  Replaced the Elixir 80/20s with some EXP-16s which I like a lot better.  Might try some PB Elixirs next.

The unidirectional carbon top is supposed to sound more "wood like" than the ones where the plys go in all directions.

Perhaps some Kipling:
http://youtu.be/26RumjHN76E

Not sure how clear the guitar is over the vocals.

Quote from: broKen on May 30, 2014, 01:56:06 PM
Hey Rob, if the builders know that, wouldn't they save themselves some problems and warranty issues by using truss rods?

When graphite necks first came out all of the man. said they didn't need truss rod's,10 years latter I had to tell players either replace the neck or a trick I figured out was to hand the neck with a weight attached to it for year or more just trying to get out the bow.
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Rainsong has basically stopped making guitars without truss-rods.

1)  Their customer base generally wants one, though there is a vocal minority who does not like it since the neck can be thinner without one.

2) The original design (without truss rod) uses a different mold than the one with the truss rod, and is much more labor intensive to use.  The molds are very expensive.

Thus if you want a 12-string Rainsong better buy one quick as they have stopped making them.

Quote from: cke on May 25, 2014, 09:50:59 AM

I prefer the CA brand as they sound like guitars whereas the Rainsongs sound like Taylors to me

Was that really necessary?  To each his or her own.  If all guitars sounded the same, that would be pretty boring.


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