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« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2012, 12:45:17 AM »

  So was Gibson importing these as well    No wonder they got busted.
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« Reply #121 on: January 04, 2012, 12:52:18 AM »

I could be a drum. The beat goes on.........................................
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« Reply #122 on: January 04, 2012, 12:59:25 AM »

Some African tribes, believing that the power of their slain enemies lived on in their skulls, made musical instruments from them for use in battle or to weaken hostile neighbours. They detached the lower jaws to make trumpets and used the craniums as drums.

Anthropology: Centuries of skulls

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« Reply #123 on: January 04, 2012, 01:08:46 AM »

While it appears unprecedented in human history, I say flatlander don't give up your dream to have your skull part of a stringed instrument!... you could have Damien Hirst do the inlay work.
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« Reply #124 on: January 04, 2012, 02:36:42 AM »

While it appears unprecedented in human history, I say flatlander don't give up your dream to have your skull part of a stringed instrument!... you could have Damien Hirst do the inlay work.

Wouldn't Damien Hirst just pickle your brains in formaldehyde?

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« Reply #125 on: January 04, 2012, 03:13:24 AM »

For the Love of God... a heavy metal skull.

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« Reply #126 on: January 04, 2012, 05:23:25 AM »

While it appears unprecedented in human history, I say flatlander don't give up your dream to have your skull part of a stringed instrument!... you could have Damien Hirst do the inlay work.
And our own Mr. Cree could paint me. Dang I just realized I'd probably get snagged up by some Dead Head. I can't take the smoke anymore. It'd kill me!
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« Reply #127 on: January 04, 2012, 07:19:39 PM »

   Needs a GIBSON HEADstock logo.
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« Reply #128 on: January 09, 2012, 01:20:28 PM »

But Danny it's not about saddles according to the warrent

After reading the warrent, it's clear that it is all about is all systematic, deliberate, long term & large scale smuggling & tax evasion

As long as your company pays it's taxes and does not engage in smuggling.... what's to fear but fear itself?

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« Reply #129 on: January 12, 2012, 04:33:02 AM »

My 1st guitar at 12 years old was 67 Gibson SG and had others after that. My pulse used to race when I would see certain Gibsons, but that has faded a great deal based on their quality and business ethics. Ohhh Gibson, will you ever come back around?

**I have an aquaintance that was employed by Gibson and others that had close biz relations supplying parts and more to them. Many of those on the inside circles have said "They are always guilty!" (referring to the wood).

Many of us are still fond of some of their instruments though and they are like a main artery in the industry. I just know they are poor about paying some bills, often hard to work for, less about customers, less about quailty instruments, more about executive profits, have incredible markups, and I am uncertain how they maintain a majority chunk of loyalty. I have been told a lot of their current success is from advertising apart from the tradition of The Gibson.
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« Reply #130 on: August 07, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »

Read about it here,
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« Reply #131 on: August 07, 2012, 04:34:15 AM »

"It is further understood that, if the Government determines that Gibson has committed any crime after signing this Agreement, or that Gibson has given false, incomplete, or misleading testimony or information, or has otherwise violated any provision of this Agreement, the Government may proceed with further investigation and enforcement."

This quote is taken right from the agreement government officials entered into with Gibson. I read most of it, and this is the best case they have, NOTHING. It amounts to this, " you had better prove that you are innocent, or else you will be charged."  But if you don't want to pay millions in legal fees, we'll take a few hundred grand to leave you alone.

Lawyers in government positions....Did you know that the big law schools were first founded as Seminaries???? We've come gone a long way.

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« Reply #132 on: August 07, 2012, 04:59:53 AM »

Next will be that "composites' are adding to global warning. PB's are endangering the National supply of Bronze.  Coated strings are toxic and a major cancer producer...
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« Reply #133 on: August 07, 2012, 03:12:45 PM »

Maybe congress will legislate that only parlours can be made in the future, because they use less wood.......
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« Reply #134 on: August 07, 2012, 03:25:56 PM »

Speaking of wood, so what happens to this stuff now?
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« Reply #135 on: August 07, 2012, 03:34:21 PM »

Duc the wood will be returned to the original country of origin to be processed legaly and then sold again according to there law's.
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« Reply #136 on: August 07, 2012, 03:58:47 PM »

Duc the wood will be returned to the original country of origin to be processed legaly and then sold again according to there law's.

So do they get to keep the proceeds of both sales too? Good deal for them!
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« Reply #137 on: August 07, 2012, 05:27:21 PM »

Speaking of wood, so what happens to this stuff now?



 "An important part of the settlement is that we are getting back the materials seized in a second armed raid on our factories and we have formal acknowledgement that we can continue to source rosewood and ebony fingerboards from India, as we have done for many decades."

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« Reply #138 on: August 07, 2012, 05:35:44 PM »

It really seems like a tempest in a teapot. Nothing to see here folks, move along.  cop
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« Reply #139 on: August 07, 2012, 05:47:18 PM »

It really seems like a tempest in a teapot. Nothing to see here folks, move along.  cop


Easy to say from a distance. None the less....Aye aye, Captain!
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