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« on: July 20, 2011, 06:35:47 PM »

Does anyone know when the L-19 model ceased production under that number?  I have been told that the L-19 is now the same as the L-09, but my 19 came with the clear pickguard, the Eagle headstock and fancier fret markers.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 07:54:04 PM »

To the extent that I know these things the one indicates an elevated level of bling on an otherwise nine level instrument.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 10:15:52 PM »

Larrivee quit using the 19 designation in the late 90's, but then resurrected it a few years ago for the Calif series at least, and maybe some others.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 01:53:55 AM »

A -19 is a -09 with -10 level fretboard or headstock inlay.  Bassically a -10 but without the abalone purfling all around the top.

Jean has said that it was called a -19 because he thought that calling this level of trim a -9.5 would have sounded stupid.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 02:43:36 AM »

A -19 is a -09 with -10 level fretboard or headstock inlay.  Bassically a -10 but without the abalone purfling all around the top.

Jean has said that it was called a -19 because he thought that calling this level of trim a -9.5 would have sounded stupid.

That's pretty accurate.  a 19 might simply say Larrivee on the headstock or it might have one of Wendy's character inlays, or it might have a flourish style inlay like this.  It's a 1995 OM-19.  I really really like the rosewood binding on these older ones.  The only thing I don't like are the Schaller tuners and none of the Gotoh's are a perfect match for the existing holes. Rats!


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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 03:25:35 AM »

That's pretty accurate.  a 19 might simply say Larrivee on the headstock or it might have one of Wendy's character inlays, or it might have a flourish style inlay like this.  It's a 1995 OM-19.  I really really like the rosewood binding on these older ones.  The only thing I don't like are the Schaller tuners and none of the Gotoh's are a perfect match for the existing holes. Rats!
Just wondering why you don't care for the Schallers.  Aesthetics?  Function?  Stay in tune? etc.  Reason I ask is that my old-timer L-07 has the Schallers and I've never found anything wrong with them in terms of function and stability.  I never considered much how they look though so was just wondering what your judgement criteria is.

Cheers,  Kurt
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 01:08:09 AM »

The only problem with the Schallers is the 12:1 gear ratio.  After getting used to the Gotoh 510's and their 18:1 gear ratio, the Schallers just aren't as easy to nail down.  Once they're in tune, they hold it just fine.  I'm just spoiled  whistling
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 06:17:15 AM »

The only problem with the Schallers is the 12:1 gear ratio.  After getting used to the Gotoh 510's and their 18:1 gear ratio, the Schallers just aren't as easy to nail down.  Once they're in tune, they hold it just fine.  I'm just spoiled  whistling
Good point.  You know I never even thought of the gear ratio on mine till your post.  But it's true, they are harder to nail down as you say.  When I bought the guitar in 1985, I didn't have a clue about tuners and all that stuff.  But now, after having many guitars go through my hands, I agree about the effect of the lower gear ratio.  In the case of my Larrivee, though, I think I've become so accustomed to the tuners that I can "do it in my sleep" so to speak and I never even noticed.  I do strongly agree that once they are in tune, they stay that way.

I don't think I would ever change the tuners on my L-07 at this stage given it's age, my relationship with it, originality, or whatever unless they were truly wearing out.  But, if it came to that, I wouldn't be anal about installing the same ones.  I would replace them with whatever seemed the best in terms of tuning performance and ease of replacement.  (didn't mean to steer this thread towards tuners)
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