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« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2011, 05:58:40 PM »

You have an interesting relationship with dogs then.

Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.


I wouldn't treat a dog like that either, hence I don't have any dogs in my house.

And maybe I have no idea what Dylan's talking about, but it just don't sound right.

Well ... b*tches are b*tches, after all.  whistling

yes, shame on you for that one ducktrapper.   cop
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« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2011, 06:04:41 PM »

What? I was kinda hoping we'd all evolved a little more than to still have those views. Sounds like the kind of thing your old man would've said.
I hope I am misinterpreting this, but it seems as if you you are championing men becoming more effeminate?
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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2011, 06:07:54 PM »

I hope I am misinterpreting this, but it seems as if you you are championing men becoming more effeminate?


What does "effeminate" mean?
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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2011, 06:19:11 PM »


I wouldn't treat a dog like that either, hence I don't have any dogs in my house.


Ok, so you don't want women or dogs in your bed. Got it.
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« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2011, 06:36:03 PM »


What does "effeminate" mean?
female like, as in more like a female than a male
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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2011, 06:49:32 PM »

To be more precise, it deals with males who are more female. A woman is not considered to be effeminate. She can be more or less feminine, however.  


ef·fem·i·nate   /adj. ɪˈfɛmənɪt; v. ɪˈfɛməˌneɪt/  Show Spelled
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2. characterized by excessive softness, delicacy, self-indulgence, etc.: effeminate luxury.
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2011, 07:05:32 PM »

Ok, so you don't want women or dogs in your bed. Got it.

How did you end up with that conclusion? 


–adjective
1. (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.
2. characterized by excessive softness, delicacy, self-indulgence, etc.: effeminate luxury.



None of that is allowed if you are a real man, unless you are a musician and you can make your guitar gently weep.

How ridiculous does this have to get? 
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2011, 07:23:07 PM »

How did you end up with that conclusion? 


None of that is allowed if you are a real man, unless you are a musician and you can make your guitar gently weep.

How ridiculous does this have to get? 

Ridiculous? Words have meanings. Decisions have consequences. Trends have ... um ... destinations. And George Harrison was hardly effeminate. 
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2011, 07:40:22 PM »

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George Harrison was hardly effeminate. 


Then in response to:

it seems as if you are championing men becoming more effeminate?


I would say, no I am not championing men becoming more effeminate, but rather,  less macho and condescending toward women as in Dylan's song "Just like a woman" and less needy and dependent like in "lay, lady lady" 

But hey, that was all forty-five years ago, I trust Dylan's grown up a bit since then.
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2011, 07:46:12 PM »

How did you end up with that conclusion? 




Lay Lady Lay(Across my big brass bed) + "I wouldn't treat a dog like that either" = joke

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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2011, 07:56:09 PM »

If

Then in response to:
 

I would say, no I am not championing men becoming more effeminate, but rather,  less macho and condescending toward women as in Dylan's song "Just like a woman" and less needy and dependent like in "lay, lady lady" 

But hey, that was all forty-five years ago, I trust Dylan's grown up a bit since then.
Just shows how dumb I amm. I thought all these years "Lay Lady Lay" was a love song. Telling his lover what she meant to him. Thanks (I think) for educating me.
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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2011, 08:06:08 PM »

Just shows how dumb I amm. I thought all these years "Lay Lady Lay" was a love song. Telling his lover what she meant to him. Thanks (I think) for educating me.

Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2011, 08:13:46 PM »

Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre.
Bizarre to me is flip flopping on your opinions. You called down "Duck" for saying too many singers (male) sing and look like women, which are physical attributes, then you say you meant attitudes. Would your wife prefer being calle d b***ch to being called "Lady"?
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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2011, 08:15:17 PM »

Would your wife prefer being calle d b***ch to being called "Lady"?

I really don't care for either one. And I don't call her "Babe" either! That's reserved for female pigs.
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2011, 08:25:41 PM »

Lay Lady Lay(Across my big brass bed) + "I wouldn't treat a dog like that either" = joke



That's what I thought you had in mind. Some people do let their pooches on the bed, hence my thinking Dylan wrote that song to a golden retriever.
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2011, 08:27:54 PM »

I really don't care for either one. And I don't call her "Babe" either! That's reserved for female pigs.
I didn't ask which you preferred, I was seeking a female opinion!
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2011, 08:47:36 PM »

I didn't ask which you preferred, I was seeking a female opinion!

Whoops. Well let me anticipate that her opinion would be one where if the choice was being called either "Lady" or "Bi*ch"?  "lady" would be the hands down winner.  Woof, woof.
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2011, 09:00:56 PM »

Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?

No, that would have never crossed my mind.
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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2011, 09:17:06 PM »

No, that would have never crossed my mind.


It's a lot more common than you think. When it comes to dogs, Lady is number 5 in popularity. Right behind Maggie, Bear, Molly and Shadow.

http://www.bowwow.com.au/find-a-name-for-your-pet/top-20-names/search-results.aspx?country=1&animal_type=2&animal_sex=Female&num_results=20&B3.x=40&B3.y=14&B3=Fetch

And on this list made it to the top, ahead of Princess, Maggie, Ginger and Daisy

http://www.dognameswoof.com/favoritegirldognames.htm

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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2011, 09:25:29 PM »

Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?

Gotta say friend I never made that association, very doubtful Dylan had either but an interesting view for sure
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