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« on: February 16, 2010, 01:35:37 PM »

I just completed my arrangement of ' You've Got a Friend ' for my finger style playing.

In doing so, I went to youtube and listened to James Taylor perform it
and then listened to the writer and original performer Carole King perform it.

Carole seems to sing it pretty much the same every time while J.T. varies it.

One difference I noticed-
Carole wrote and sings it as 'YOU'VE got a friend'
The best I can determine, J.T. sings it as ' YOU got a friend '

I like J.T's  YOU  better than Carole's YOU'VE
It flows easier - smoother,  easier to pronounce - and I think sounds nicer - warmer, more personal - more like people would really say it in normal conversation.

When I sing it I say 'YOU'
when I play it as my arranged instrumental my guitar does not know the difference 

A great song and one that was an inspiration back then and now.
"hey, ain't it good to know you got a friend'   bigrin

- Larry
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 02:07:35 PM »

I think the singing it you've is very unique   
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 02:54:34 PM »

  Larry I like this song quite a bit. Are you going to record your version and put it up?
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 03:17:56 PM »

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Larry I like this song quite a bit. Are you going to record your version and put it up?

I was not planning to unless someone ask-  because of my poor equipment - digital camera video mode  :-(
so now I guess I have motivation to do it.  bigrin

I've completed my arrangement - now I'm working on being able to play it through smoothly.
I do it in the key of C and don't have the nice guitar intro that J.T. uses.

I have a slide in it and a descending half stop run that's a challenge to me - but its coming along  bigrin

In the future I plan to figure out how he does the intro in his key of G
and then see if I can transpose it to C and get the same effect.

I do a lot of things in C.
Did you know the guitar is actually called a C instrument and was designed around the key of C - according to what I read about it.

In the songs I do
the melody often leaves the open position C and goes up the neck.
When an F chord is needed up there - I often use the C form of the F chord at the 5th position and play an open D in the base.
It sweetens the F - and the melodies sound good coming out of it  (at least to my ear)

and for the G chord I often just slide that form up 2 frets and do the same thing.

- Larry
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 04:43:56 PM »

Larry, I'd like to hear it, even on a digital camera. Always liked that song.
I think that JT's "you" vs Carole's "you've" might be a function of their roots, growing up in N Carolina vs NYC. JT is such a great mix of that refined New England character from his mother, together with Carolina's easy, southern charm where his father's roots were.
King & Taylor are soon to begin a world tour together, "Troubadour".
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 05:11:11 PM »

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King & Taylor are soon to begin a world tour together, "Troubadour".

really, ...didn't know that.....will check it out.....hope they stop in Nashville

J.T. should provide me a free pass if he does Nashville.
I went to his Nashville concert back in 69, 70...?  something like that....
...did not get my money's worth that time.....bad concert..... but, I forgive him...it was in his drugged out days...

I'm working on a finger style instrumental of Fire and Rain....got most of the intro down - and the melody/chords are finished.
....just love the intro he does on it.....
....the slide up , then down, all the hammers and pulls in D and A.....beautiful...
that intro is one of the things that made me want to play guitar in the first place when I first heard it back in the 60s.

- Larry
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 05:17:12 PM »

Hey, they are including Nashville in their tour  +1
   bigrin

Now, I need to get in touch with J.T. about that free pass he owes me 


Here is the schedule

James Taylor/Carole King
May 7 – Portland, OR @ Rose Garden Arena
May 9 – Seattle, WA @ Key Arena
May 11 – San Jose, CA @ HP Pavilion
May 13-15 – Los Angeles, CA @ Hollywood Bowl
May 19 – Phoenix, AZ @ Jobing.com Arena
May 21 – Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
May 22 – Nashville, TN @ Sommet Center
May 24 – Chicago, IL @ Allstate Arena
May 25 – St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
May 27 – Detroit, MI @ The Palace of Auburn Hills
May 28 – Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
May 30 – Columbus, OH @ Schottenstein Center
Jun. 2 – Charlotte, NC @ Time Warner Cable Arena
Jun. 3 – Atlanta, GA @ The Arena at Gwinnett Center
Jun. 5 – Fort Lauderdale, FL @ Bankatlantic Center
Jun. 6 – Tampa, FL @ St. Pete Times Arena
Jun. 8 – Washington, DC @ Verizon Center
Jun. 10 – Philadelphia, PA @ Wachovia Center
Jun. 12 – Hartford, CT @ Mohegan Sun Arena
Jun. 15 – New York, NY @ Madison Square Garden
Jun. 19 – Boston, MA @ TD Garden
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 05:21:46 PM »



Now, I need to get in touch with J.T. about that free pass he owes me 
uh  yeah.
Good luck with that, Larry.   whistling
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 06:18:09 AM »

Hmmm, another lesson learnt today - I always thought James Taylor wrote the song. (never too old hey?) thanx Larry.

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"You've Got a Friend" is a Grammy Award winning song from 1971. The song, written by Carole King, was included in her album Tapestry of 1971, but was made famous by James Taylor's cover version the same year. Taylor's rendition, released as a single from his own 1971 album Mud Slide Slim and the Blue Horizon, reached number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 4 on the UK Singles Chart, and won Grammy Awards both for Taylor (Best Pop Vocal Performance, Male) and King (Song of the Year).

The song was recorded also during 1971 by Dusty Springfield, a recording that predates Taylor's version. It was recorded for her third album for Atlantic Records, but a dispute with the company meant the album was unreleased. The song was left unissued until 1999, when it was issued as a bonus track for the Rhino Records deluxe re-release of Dusty in Memphis.

Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ve_Got_a_Friend
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 08:03:58 PM »

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  Hmmm, another lesson learnt today - I always thought James Taylor wrote the song. (never too old hey?) thanx Larry.

you're welcome.
Yes, I was around to hear Carole King sing it originally then later JT.
I like his version best -  probably because of his guitar part.

There is a youtube post of Carole and jt together performing the song - back in the day -

I'm really enjoying playing my simple instrumental version of it.
My next challenge is to learn the intro that James does on guitar and add that to my arrangement.

- Larry
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2010, 02:55:18 PM »

   One correction for the tour schedule. It says Hartford, but the Mohegan Sun Arena is on the Indian reservation. About an hour away from Hartford. Two tribes, land is side by side, both with casinos & now, BIG music halls. If Hartford, probably the Civic Center. Hate the Civic Center. If in Foxwoods, I'll have to get tics & see if I can sit for about 2 hours, plus the drive. Love JT. My body just doesn't let me do what I used to.
   Always wondered about him playing such small guitars for years. Mainly Olsens. I'm about the same size as he, just weigh a little more? Got my Flammang OMs years ago & opened my eyes to smaller guitars than I was playing.
   Now just have to get him to play a Larrivee. Think he'll like it!
     Jeff
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2010, 03:31:36 PM »

   Just checked & it is @ the casino, not Hartford. Dates are 6/12 & 6/13. $75 & $95, sold out. Have some connections, so will try those?
     Jeff
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