Low volume in my new Larrivee OM-03

Started by zurdillo, July 18, 2009, 02:33:31 AM

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Well, I've never played an OM-03, but I know my nylon string Francisco Navarro cedar & cypress flamenco guitar is much louder than my small bodied Larrivee Parlor rosewood & spruce steel string and it certainly has a much broader tonal palette. If they were both nylon string guitars, I would expect the spruce to be significantly louder than a cedar top, but I think comparing nylon string guitars to steel string ones is like comparing apples to oranges...

My friend has rosewood & spruce Martin dreadnought (a huge guitar!) that competes well in volume with my flamenco guitar, but my flamenco still has a broader and more colorful tonal palette. It also takes a lot more force for a steel string to drive its heavily braced top than it does for a nylon string to drive its lightly braced top.

I love nylon string guitars and I love steel strings too, but they sound different and require different technique. My steel string technique is frankly pretty lousy, but I am having fun anyway.

   I have to agree with Jeremy about the height. If you don't hear any buzzing when played harder, as you have not mentioned, I would throw on a set of the EJ-16's, the cheapest thing first. They give all of my guitars, including the OM's I've owned, more low end & a great overall sound. Try this first & play them in. Then take it from there. Sometimes the easiest & cheapest things can work, so it's worth a shot. Play it by ear after that! And welcome to the Forum! :welcome:
     Jeff   :guitar
'11 Martin OM18V Engelmann Custom
'11 Martin D-18 Adirondack Custom
'12 Martin MFG OM-35 Custom
'07 Larrivee OOO-60(Trinity Guitars)
'13 Larrivee OM-03 "Exotic"RW Custom(Oxnard C.S.)
'10 L.Canteri OO1JP Custom(IS/IT.WALNUT)


So it seems I have come to doubt, all that I once held as true

I would echo the recommendation of a "Traditional Series" model for larger volume, if you want to stay within the Larrivee family and the OM size.  Try an OM-50 or an OM-60 if you can get a chance, but keep in mind that the price will at least double from an OM-03(R).

If you want something even louder, then you pay even more and start going the "boutique" route (e.g. Goodall, Collings, Bourgeois, etc.)
'07 Larrivée OM-50 (Bone Nut/Saddle, K&K Pure Mini Pickup)
'09 Composite Acoustics OX Raw

Thank you very much for all your replies, all are very usefull. First I will change the strings, and now I'm sure this guitar will be with me for years.

I have recorded some videos with my OM-03 and now are uploaded in Youtube. If somebody is interested in ear the sound of my OM-03 for compare I will be grateful. These are the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dOndKxnepE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7wbKoDya7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxUun6Kxp2Q

Thank you!  :donut :donut :donut


Hi Guys, I think I`ve mentioned this before but it`s worth mentioning again, Jean built me 3 LV10 customs to use for the UK Larrivee clinics, all MR with Vine inlays...like 3 peas out of the same pod. I used #1 for every gig I did for 18 months, ( approx 700...3 a day at guitar shows!!!!) #2 was used in an open tuning for a couple of numbers per gig and #3 was a spare in case of string breakage.
18 months later and #1 is MUCH louder than #2 which is significantly louder than #3.
The outcome is that they get louder the more you play `em.... cheers, Pete
Pete Smith
www.petesmithguitarist.com
UK Clinician for Larrivee Guitars
Acoustic Guitar Clinician / Product Specialist for Sound Technology Plc

Quote from: petesmithguitarist on August 14, 2009, 03:18:46 AM
The outcome is that they get louder the more you play `em.... cheers, Pete


:+1:

As another thread suggests here, "play the snot out of it". My OM-03R is just starting to find it voice. Ive owned it for 1-1/2 years.


Cheers, Scott.
Martin OM-21. 
Martin HD-28e
Sigma SDM-18
Schertler David.

Victoria, Australia.

If you want a bit more volume, just sand the hard right angles off of the bracing. Use about 100 grit sandpaper and use some spray adhesive to attatch some sandpaper to a stick so you can reach the outer edges. You will get more volume and sustain.

Thank you, very valuable info in the last replies. The experience of petesmithguitarist of course has convenced to me, 700 gigs is a good chance to the guitar to obtain a good performance level!

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