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« Reply #700 on: April 28, 2009, 11:53:37 AM »

My impressions about the FIII:

What I have: #22, hog b/s, cut-away, herringbone purfling, installed i-Mix. Great set-up by Trinity guitars, BTW (thanks!).

I love the way this guitar sounds and at the price that I paid.... wow. What I don't like: the tuners. I use a lot of open tunings and these tuners (Ping tuners?) aren't my cup of tea. They will hold one tuning (like standard tuning) just fine, but I switch around tunings quite a lot, especially playing out, these tuners just don't seem to work well. I'm playing out this weekend and was planning to take the FIII exclusively, but the tuner thing really bothers me... I'll probably take the FIII and a Huss and Dalton OM (as a backup to the FIII) if I find myself frustrated with this. I'll swap the tuners out on the FIII soon.  Enough said (my 2 cents of course  -- others may not have the same tuner "OCD" that I have).

The guitar is well built, sounds better than another custom OM (name not mentioned) that I had built for twice the $. Satin finish on the entire body -- my first experience and I think this will work our nicely.

Ron

Congrats Ron.  I don't like the pings all that much either, but when I change tunings I am not having the issues you are.  I do notice that to Schaller's or Gotoh are easier to get into tune because the gear ratio makes it easy to hit your target.  On these pings, I tend to tune right past the pitch and then readjust a couple times.  But they are always holding the pitch for me.  If you have a bad set of tuners maybe Larrivee can send you a set to swap with out with.
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« Reply #701 on: April 28, 2009, 11:55:28 AM »

That's an interesting point regarding alternate tunings and would jive with Ben's experience. I can't stand the Pings for a few reasons and they will go asap. Anyone got a spare set set of Schallers they'd want to barter for?

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« Reply #702 on: April 28, 2009, 12:21:51 PM »

It really blows that Larrivee decided to use the ping mini's on the FIII's because there really isn't a replacement tuner that I like that would drop in without having to fill holes.  I even have a real nice new set of Gotoh 510s that I bought for my FIII because I assumed they would drop right in and replace the standard pings.  Oh well, mine work fine and the Gotoh's have graced my FI guitar.
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« Reply #703 on: April 28, 2009, 04:00:32 PM »

These look like they would work
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« Reply #704 on: April 28, 2009, 04:05:45 PM »

Or maybe these
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« Reply #705 on: April 28, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »

Tadol can advise on which size Gotohs drop in.
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« Reply #706 on: April 28, 2009, 04:52:45 PM »

Minis? Did I miss (yet again) something? That bumps the cost up for sure. I guess I'll use the cash my guitar (that is arriving tommorrow)is stuffed with to replace them.

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« Reply #707 on: April 28, 2009, 05:14:24 PM »

are you guys having problems with your tuners?

I am very satisfied with my tuning machines!

I wouldn't want to change a thing on mine :)
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« Reply #708 on: April 28, 2009, 06:01:36 PM »

These look like they would work

YES they would.  There are a set of Gotohs out there that works too, I can't remember the model but there's a thread about it...but neither of these have an aesthetic improvement the way the 510's would.

Or maybe these
Nope.  Those are the 510s and they definitely don't work, I speak from 1st hand experience.
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« Reply #709 on: April 28, 2009, 06:05:15 PM »

Minis? Did I miss (yet again) something? That bumps the cost up for sure. I guess I'll use the cash my guitar (that is arriving tommorrow)is stuffed with to replace them.

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« Reply #710 on: April 28, 2009, 06:25:41 PM »

Gotoh SG 360's are the Schaller M-^ mini knock off':

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« Reply #711 on: April 28, 2009, 07:40:27 PM »

I don't have an issue whatsoever with how the guitar was delivered and even the use of pings. I typically replace tuners after some time anyway. I've burned through 3 sets of Grovers over my 35 years of playing ... please don't mistake my impression as negative. Because of my constant tuning (I use at least 13 tunings and will retune quickly between songs) and my requirements for tuners may be different than some players. I love the way that the FIII was built, set-up, and delivered. It sounds great. The tuners are really my issue... due to how and what tunes I play. This is a beautiful sounding guitar and it's a keeper. 

BTW, I ordered some mini-Schaller's on eBay that someone had used.

Hope everyone is enjoying the guitar as much as I am.

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« Reply #712 on: April 28, 2009, 08:25:39 PM »

What were you expecting, Waverly's? 

Nope. I was expecting Schaller.

I went to StewMac, I could have sworn they had less expensice Schaller tuners, all black for about $35. That's where I bought all my previous replacement tuners. But now they just have the three. Hmmm.

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« Reply #713 on: April 28, 2009, 08:44:51 PM »

Nevermind, I'm thinking of these http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Gotoh_Large_Schaller-style_Knob_Tuners.html but those won't work.

I'm a little fried, my bank (the one run by a man with no soul, apprently) just charged me $35 because my account was short 90 cents. I'd like to sing him a tune....

No matter, so it's mini's then.

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« Reply #714 on: April 28, 2009, 09:04:42 PM »

Sorry to hear that. As Mark Twain once said: "A banker is someone who will loan you an umbrella when the sun is shining and ask you to give it back when it starts raining."
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« Reply #715 on: April 28, 2009, 09:13:06 PM »

Did Mark say it was OK to stick the umbrella through his cold, black heart? And then twist it? Cause I'm all over that...

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« Reply #716 on: April 28, 2009, 11:50:20 PM »

   Joseph, found a thread from years ago with a post made by Matt Larrivee,Admin., with 218 posts! Long time ago, but he swears by the Pingwells (Pings), all versions included. He included a thread, but it didn't work to take you to it. here it is. Good luck!
www.larriveeforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2at=42
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« Reply #717 on: April 28, 2009, 11:52:36 PM »

   Page isn't showing any more. Google Pingwell tuners & see what you get. Some mention of being used on Baby Taylors & Big Baby Taylors.
   Sorry.
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« Reply #718 on: April 29, 2009, 03:02:29 PM »


 my bank (the one run by a man with no soul, apprently)

No need to explain the obvious.
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« Reply #719 on: April 29, 2009, 09:15:12 PM »

Did Mark say it was OK to stick the umbrella through his cold, black heart? And then twist it? Cause I'm all over that...

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I think Twain would have been fine with that. He became quite the misanthropist later in life...

I have an umbrella you can borrow.

Any bank that would do that doesn't deserve yours or anyone else's business.

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