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« on: September 28, 2008, 07:22:18 PM »

Hi Guys,
   I've recently purchased a Larrivee LV-03R that will be my main gigging acoustic. I purposefully got a model without onboard electronics because I have some unique, (strange) requirements for my sound, and I don't like the idea of having a big preamp in the side of the guitar, when systems seem to become obsolete every few years.
   I'm not in a big hurry, (I can externally mount my M-1 into the Para for now,) but did want to start asking some questions.
   I play mostly fingerstyle, but also do quite a few band gigs where I'll be playing with a pick. My first priority is getting a natural, and truly acoustic guitar sound, and one that will pick up percussive body taps. But I will still need to be able to cut through a band fairly often, without feeding back. A lot to ask of a pickup system.
    I've used a K&K setup for years, and love its fidelity, but for louder volumes, I've heard that the Baggs I-Beam is a better choice and offers similar fidelity. Any thoughts?
   
    I like the Baggs M-1 when properly setup and EQ'd. I think it's the most natural sounding magnetic. I've only tested the I-beam in stores, so I'm curious about people's opinions of that . Anwd as far as UST's go, (I usually don't like them, except to cut through a band,) I think that the Baggs Element is really good.
 
    I like how minimally invasive the Baggs I-Mix is, but for solo fingerstyle gigs, I'd probably prefer an M-1/I-beam combination for the most "acoustic" tone. However, I'd guess from experience (I've used an M-1/K&K combination,) that this would probably be too "live" and perhaps not cut through a band.

    Is there anyway to install an I-Mix system and be able to choose between the M-1 and the Element? So I could keep the M-1 in the case, and pick 2 out of the 3 pickups to use at a given concert? If I could do that, it'd be great, and very versatile as long as it wasn't too much work to make the switch, (sometimes I have a solo gig and a band gig on the same night.)
    And if this is possible, which M-1 should I use? I own a passive M-1, but would I need to get an Active, (I'd guess no, but you never know...)
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 07:11:21 AM »

There's always a solution, the impossible just takes a little longer  Not too sure of your exact requirement though  , and I can't speak for K&K because I don't know it, but take a look at http://www.shorelinemusic.com/amplification/baggs.shtml. Yes, you're right - I'm totally biased towards LR Baggs. I believe for your tapping requirement the I-Beam is the one.They have all the products to address your requirement. For the specific application, e-mail them. John is most helpful and has always answered my queries. Although I have no experience with remote-controls other than standard DI-boxes, they seem to cater in various ways with their Gig-pro Clip-on-belt and other similar products. Shoreline also carry the other brands and I'm sure they'll have a solution for you, they're very knowledgeable. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 06:48:12 PM »

Yes -- this is exactly what I did. You can install the iMix just like you would normally. Then you need to purchase a passive M-1 and get the attenuated cable. You can then use any combination of two (iBeam, Element, or M-1) that you plug into the mixer. I generally keep the iBeam and trade out the Element with the M-1 if feedback is an issue. The M-1 definitely gives more string attack sound than the Element.

I have the part number for the attenuated cable in my files. I'll look it up and post it later.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 06:56:02 PM »

Just took a peak in the file... no reciept kept. But, call LR Baggs customer service. I think the tech that told me about this was Bryan, but that may be wrong (long time ago). It is a similar set up to what Tom Petty and the Foo Fighters use. Petty uses the iBeam and M-1, the Foo Fighters use the Element and the M-1.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 08:42:36 PM »

I have an LV05E with an IMix system (IBeam and Element).  I love the IBeam.  The most natural sounding pickup I've heard.  I'm not crazy about under saddle transducers like the Element.  Too invasive for me IMHO but sounds good.  I like the IBeam so much that I just installed one in my Martin D28.  Also sounds great.  Definitely contact Baggs customer service.  They always write back within a day or two and I think mixing the IBeam with the M1 is most likely do-able because the literature that came with my IBeam says that a second pickup can be added.  They will explain the details.  Rich
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