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« on: November 07, 2006, 03:53:28 AM »

Hey yall,

Alright If I have a computer (that I will do nothing but record on), Nero 7, a Larrivee D-50, and my singing voice what else do I need to record on my computer? I know I will need a mic (which I have and just cant find it) and what else?

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 05:57:32 AM »

would love to see some good input on this thread. id like to record some of my stuff, but have no clue what to do.  i'd like to find something simple.  i'll not buy any of that fancy cakewalk-type software.  makes my head hurt even thinking of it....
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 10:50:22 AM »

Alright If I have a computer (that I will do nothing but record on), Nero 7, a Larrivee D-50, and my singing voice what else do I need to record on my computer? I know I will need a mic (which I have and just cant find it) and what else?

Here's my setup:

Samson CO1 condenser mic (2 of, plus a boom mic stand that holds both)
Edirol UA-25 (USB Audio/MIDI interface)
Audacity - freeware recording software, easy to use (have also played about with Reaper as well)

If you are only recording for your own pleasure thats all you need  Cakewalk etc. are total overkill for most of us and cost more than my mics & interface box !     

Worth experimenting where you actually play/record though for "live" vs "dead" sound.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 03:10:36 PM »

Here's some info I posted on another forum recently:

Recording is a fairly involved universe. Little of it is rocket science and the concepts and principles are easily absorbed. Still, it takes time to gather enough information for it to make sense. Fortunately, you seem to have the inquisitiveness and patience to get there.

If you want to get into recording your acoustic guitar (solo, non-vocals), and you stay with it, you will eventually end up with the folowing gear (most likely):

1. A well treated room.
2. Two small diaphragm condenser mics.
3. Two channels of microphone preamplifiers.
4. Two channels of analog to digital ("AD") converters and two channels of digital to analog ("DA") converters.
5. A computer soundcard (traffic cop) or a USB or firewire "recording interface" (which will combine the trafic cop functions of a soundcard and ## 3 and 4 above and # 6 below).
6. Recording, editing, mixing and mastering software, including plugins.
7. Nearfield reference monitors and a pair of headphones.
8. A workstation, cables, mic stands and other miscellaneous items.

You can spend, say, $1,000 on this stuff up to, say, $25,000, or anywhere inbetween. There are numerous products for each numbered item above in several price ranges. Thousands of products overall. Nearly all are at least good (some suck), many are excellent and some are simply stunning.

Now, that's the gear. Next - How the heck do you use it? Well, it's part art, part craft and part science. You'll become a "recording engineer", the current tag for a recording person. That takes time, experimentation and common sense. Like the guitar, your ear will be your friend.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 03:22:44 PM »

You can go the hard drive recording unit as well.  I've got one of these:  http://www.tascam.com/Products/dp01fx.html

It's just recording the old fashioned way except it's on a hard drive instead of tape.  You do all your recording, mixing and mastering on the unit, then you can simply download it onto your computer, complete any mixing using some of the software mentioned in previous posts, and burn to CD.  They are going for about $300 to start on Ebay.  All you'd need is a half decent mic(s) and away you go.  The nice feature for this is that it's portable so you can take it with you if you want to record in another room or location.


 
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 07:20:45 PM »

Okay.... I'm thinking my little setup ticks all these points

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1. A well treated room.

....I look after my living room really well.... nice big comfy chairs and a picture window looking out over the wooded hill opposite.... can watch the squirrels stuffing their faces from my pickin' stool

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2. Two small diaphragm condenser mics.

...yup got 'em

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3. Two channels of microphone preamplifiers.

yup, the Edirol UA-25 does that (no I don't work for them...)

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4. Two channels of analog to digital ("AD") converters and two channels of digital to analog ("DA") converters.

yup, that'll be the UA-25 interface again

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5. A computer soundcard (traffic cop) or a USB or firewire "recording interface" (which will combine the trafic cop functions of a soundcard and ## 3 and 4 above and # 6 below).

yup, errrr yup as you say its all one box...

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6. Recording, editing, mixing and mastering software, including plugins.

Audacity/Reaper for me..... "a plug-in huntin' I'll shall go" 

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7. Nearfield reference monitors and a pair of headphones.

yup, big ugly black things cluttering up my desk and some headphones that a really good salesman made me buy..... I was only in there for a TV.... 

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8. A workstation, cables, mic stands and other miscellaneous items.

yup, got..... and tripped over them....

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You can spend, say, $1,000 on this stuff up to, say, $25,000, or anywhere inbetween.

I've just added up all my bits and it comes to about $700...... including bits I already had (monitors and headphones)....but excluding the workstation as I'm just using an existing PC  as I have absolutely no truck with all that "dedicated optimised workstation required" bullsh*t  ....so I guess given I've not spent on recording software I'm still very much at the bargain basement end of that scale but I'm mainly using it as a record and self critique tool at moment .... and to send clips to my brother who likes a laugh as I mutilate another tune 

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2006, 07:33:56 PM »

Doug Jones answers all of your questions in this wonderfu three part video series over at Acoustic Player Magazine. Watch it! Doug is

http://www.acousticplayermagazine.com/apm001/techtalk001/homerecord1_001.html

Also  +1 on the "Reaper" suggestion for a good cheap recording software solution. I use Sonar myself, but it is very pricey.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2006, 02:00:08 AM »

Another thread here from earlier this year, a few other solutions were proposed as well.

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2006, 02:31:54 AM »

Another thread here from earlier this year, a few other solutions were proposed as well.



That was a good thread.  How's the recording going Gemnoc?
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2006, 03:04:50 AM »

It's not going at all actually. Just put the stuff in the closet not long after my first tries.

I've occupied myself with other interests in the past few months. But I'm planning on pursuing the recording thing this winter.
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