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« on: October 16, 2006, 10:15:10 AM »

Hello !! 

I own a OM-09 with no electronic and I would like to a add it to make recordings at home.

I've already a static mic but I want to add a pickup to increase the precision whereas the mic add depth and sust.
Two solution in my opinion :
1) add a simple pickup and use my mic and mix them together 
2) add a pickup + internal mic (blender) : all in one solution 

It's only to make home recordings, with the best quality sound (no live).

What do you think of the blender system ? Do you have advices about a good pickup ? a good blender (I've heard Fishman can't fit into the guitar due to X-braces  ) ?

Many thanks in advance 

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 12:38:22 PM »

Get an Ibeam and use an external mic.With the internal mic you don't the airiness of an external mic.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 12:57:38 PM »

Thanks !!

Any idea of which IBeam ? Active/passive ?

Sorry, big newbie there 
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2006, 09:07:27 PM »

DF,
           The active pick up will have a battery that will attach somewhere inside the guitar. The passive pick up will probably require some outside pre amp  especially if you use long cords to get the sound you are looking for. I have an Om-09 that has an active UST pick up, together with a mic I can get some great sounds.  I think there is  some I beams in the Buy and sell section here on the forum as Unclrob has suggested.

Good luck

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2006, 12:28:47 AM »

Get an Ibeam and use an external mic.With the internal mic you don't the airiness of an external mic.

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I use an iBeam active and a large diaphram condenser microphone combination. It is a wonderful combination.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 01:11:59 PM »

Thanks !!

Ibeam is not a UST but a AST, right ? 

Does AST have same precision as UST pickup ? I mean AST and MIC have almost same function, adding deph and sust .... whereas UST is more designed to get strings attack, consequently the sound is much close to Electric, quite cold, in oposite to the warmer AST/Mic. Maybe I'm wrong 

If I use IBeam + Mic, maybe I would not the advantage of UST

My luthier recommend me also a B-Band A2.2 dual source (UST + AST), what do you think ? 

Sorry for all these questions, not easy to choose    Does anyone have few sample audio clip with I-Beam, B-Band ... with no effect ?  :UND>
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2006, 02:25:48 PM »

http://www.dougyoungguitar.com/pickuptest.htm
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2006, 05:32:13 PM »

WOW,that is a GREAT resource, exactly what I have been looking for(audio comparison site). Can anyone verify the statement regarding the fishman blend and it's inability to fit the larrivee? For my needs, a decent system that allows me to plug in is adequate, and the fishman seems to give flexibility and decent quality at a good price, without drilling or changing appearances (much), so that's the way I was leaning. I've got an L-03 cutaway.

thanks, and please post back with your decision/conclusion!

 
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2006, 04:45:29 PM »

I'm not a fan of using a pickup to record, but the K&K Pure Western is the best I've heard.  If you go that route, I would suggest an external mic instead of something internal.  Internal mics can be nice live to add a little bit of air, but for recording they're going to sound boxy. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2006, 08:22:31 AM »

Thanks !!

I've given up the Ibeam pickup for the moment. The problem with K&K Mini Western is it must be glued to be fixed under the bridge... and removing it would be (almost) impossible later. I saw many people changed their pickup either to upgrade or because they dislike the sound...  It's shame because everybody there love their K&K system... and I can't know in advance if I would be happy with it 

My choice would be the B-Band system (A2.2 : AST/UST), that Larrivee used on its guitars so I assume it was not a bad system I can use UST + my external mic to make recordings at home, and if someday I've the chance to play for a live, I could use UST with AST (without an external mic)... What's your opinion ? 

Thanks again for all the advices !

PS : Does somebody make a fingerstyle recording with a Larrivee and K&K system (with no voice) ?
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