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« on: August 27, 2006, 06:08:36 AM »

On my Larrivee LV-03 playing the 1st fret 6 string F major chord is difficult and frequently you can not all of the notes well.  The G major (3rd fret) I can play with no problem.  I sanded (lowered) the guitars bridge, that did not help much, if any. What can I do to remove this problem?

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 11:33:25 AM »

If you have a problem fretting at the 1st fret you likely need t pay attention to the nut slot depth. Try placing a capo on the 1st fret and then barre a major F chord. If it is considerably easier with the capo this indicates that the nut slots may not be deep enough.

If you are skilled, and have the right tools, you can tackle this yourself. If not, go see a guitar tech.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2006, 05:51:53 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 06:40:16 PM »

It is a bit easier to play with the capo on.  I’d just leave the capo on if the unfretted strings were as good as they are without a capo, but they aren’t.
I’d put a Tusq nut in place of the one I have if it were not as difficult as I’m thinking it will be.
As far as fixing (improving) the slots the nut it already has, I am mechanically inclined and have some files.  But am a bit nervous about doing.  As far as taking it to a tech.  That could be expensive and I don’t have much money.  So I will probably try to do it myself.

Uncle Rob, what is the best way for me to do this?
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 06:53:09 PM »

Daniel,

have a look at this site: http://www.frets.com/FRETSPAGES/Musician/GenSetup/Nuts/nuts1.html

If what you see there doesn't scare you off, have a go at it! It is fairly simple and straight forward.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 06:59:07 PM »

Adjust the relief before you start screwing with the nut.  If it isn't right the string tension won't be quite right either and it won't play well at the nut anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 09:16:00 PM »

What Ron and Rob just said.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 04:47:44 AM »

Tension adjustment…It has been loosened, which did not noticeably change anything.
The Capo improved things a bit, but there was still need of improvement for me.  Playing at the 10th fret and higher is work also.
The main guitar I used for about 3-4 years before this one is a Tacoma RoadKing, which has a longer fretboard than this Larrivee, so the string is longer, so there is less tension…Other than this problem the Larrivee does seem like a better guitar to me, though I’m still trying to make this Rosewood guitar have a sound that is as bright as my Mahogany Tacoma.

Who is in or near Erie County (Erie, PA) that you would recommend I take my guitar to?

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 05:20:31 AM »


Who is in or near Erie County (Erie, PA) that you would recommend I take my guitar to?


Great idea, some things sound easier than they are and cannot be undone only repaired.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 12:56:53 PM »

As far as the idea of putting a Tusq Nut in, I have since found out that is probably what it has.  But still think this nut needs a guitar doctor!

Shortly after I received this guitar I adjusted the screw for the neck (loosed it a bit), but never noticed an improvement.  Should it be loosened even more?

When I lowered the Saddle, was I improving the action like I thought I was?

Does anyone know of a good person in or near Erie County (Erie, PA) that you would recommend I take my guitar to?
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2006, 09:08:14 PM »


The main guitar I used for about 3-4 years before this one is a Tacoma RoadKing, which has a longer fretboard than this Larrivee, so the string is longer, so there is less tension…


Just wanted to clear up a misstatement. The more you increase the scale (longer fretboard) the more tension you are putting on the neck. You have to tighten the strings more to reach the same note so the tension will be greater not less. This is why a Les Paul bends strings easier than a Strat or Tele. (Although unclrob can bend either perfectly well with 14s, what a guy!)  :GRN>


 

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 11:54:05 PM »

Just wanted to clear up a misstatement. The more you increase the scale (longer fretboard) the more tension you are putting on the neck. You have to tighten the strings more to reach the same note so the tension will be greater not less. This is why a Les Paul bends strings easier than a Strat or Tele. (Although unclrob can bend either perfectly well with 14s, what a guy!)  :GRN>


This Tacoma is the easiest of my guitars to bend the strings, even when using 13s, which are the ones I liked best on it.

I wish I could find out who would be the best person to take my Larrivee to.  I don't have much money, but this guitar needs to be set up by someone that knows how.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2006, 01:50:42 AM »

Ask around town who does the best work.Thiers always someone who know's someone.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2006, 10:57:57 AM »

I've got to say that if I were you I wouild not mess with the nut myself.  In fact, I would find a way to get my guitar to a good tech and ask him'her to do a full set up including any necessary adjustments to the nut.  I predict you will be very happy if you do that. It can make a world of difference.  I always assume that any new or used guitar I purchase will need a set up.  I usually wait a few months to let the guitar acclimate to my environment and then give it a complete once over.
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