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« on: August 27, 2006, 03:55:37 AM »

Hello there,

I am new to the forum. I own an SC-05 for close to ten years and is my most precious possession. Recently I been trying to install a Soundhole cover to eliminate feedback on stage. I bought a lutehole cover and a Dean Markley, both were too big for my soundhole, I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with this "feedback eliminators" and if so which fits nicely. thank you!
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 06:26:16 AM »

The "Feedback Buster" from Kaman Music fits my L05 like a glove. I haven't had to use it much though, because my LRBaggs iBeam just doesn't feedback that much.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 05:33:48 AM »

I use the "Feedback Buster" with my L03, due to feedback problems in high volume situations.  Pup is the K&K Mini Western - a very nice sounding pickup, but somewhat prone to feedback..
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 04:40:33 PM »

I have the mahogany LuteHole soundcover that fits both my Martin D28 and my Washburn D10SCE ( the latter sounds pretty darned good when plugged in and playing live ).  This very same soundhole cover ( if needed)  will also fit my Larrivee D03 ( have not yet decided on a pickup system for this guitar) .

IMHO - I'll never use a rubber soundhole plug ever again - the Lute hole covers are much more superior in terms of being able to preserve some measure of acoustic resonance . plus they are visually striking.  But it's the preservation of instrument sound quality that makes them so much better to use.

IF your instrument cannot accomodate a "stock size" lute hole cover , then two options : 1) Lutehole Co can make customized sizes , or 2) you can do some discreet filing of the cover on your own - I have, and it works - at least on dreadnaught sized different makes of guitar.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 07:16:18 PM »

I remember seeing John Stewart play at what have come to be called "The Phoenix Concerts". He taped a square of cardboard over the soundhole of his D-41. That was back in the days when we used soundboard pickups mounted on the top of the soundboard. Can you say F.R.A.P.?

 
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 07:27:49 PM »

Yep I remember duck's taped over my soundhole.....wait I meant duct tape and cardboard........
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2006, 04:59:34 AM »

I already bought a lutehole cover, you are right they are very good looking but it didn't fit, then I borrowed my friend's Dean Markley, also too big, finally I bought the Kaiman music that some of you recommended, fits my d28 but not my larrivee. I guess I'm gonna have to "kick it old school" with the tape and the cardboard. I think my guitar model (SC05) was produced with a smaller soundhole, It was back when Jean was only in Canada so maybe is the "canadian style hole" I don`t know.  :UND>
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2006, 03:40:17 PM »

Cut a round piece of plastic, slightly larger than your sound hole. Cut a piece of foam, slightly smaller than the plastic and just about the same diameter as your soundhole or maybe just a very slight bit larger. Glue it to the plastic. Then you can push the foam into the soundhole and the pressure will hold it in place. Presto, your very own homemade feedback reducer. You can decorate it as you please.

 
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2006, 09:14:17 PM »

You might also consider one of these.  You can find used ones for under $100 on eBay.

Sabine single channel Feedback exterminator:
http://www.sabine.com/resources/FBX/Literature/FBX-SOLO-820-3-page.pdf#search=%22fbx%20solo%22
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 04:22:51 AM »

I have been having the same trouble.   I have a LV-03re that has a 3 3/4" soundhole.  I have tried the planet waves and the Dean Markley.  Think I'm going to have to resort to making my own.  I'm not a huge fan of the design of the lute holes.  I would use one if it were solid and not cut out.  hmm
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 08:08:09 AM »

I've used a Feedback Buster for years. The Lute Hole Covers will not do near as good of a job because they will not seal the sound hole as well. They are much more decorative, but they are also very porous.

You might try defining the problem and trying to fix it "on stage". Sometimes just moving a monitor or standing in a different postion can eliminate the majority of it. Moving over a few feet to the right or left can really help. Is it feedback or guitar resonance that is giving you the problem? Are the main speakers in front of you pointing out or behind you? Floor monitor, stand monitor, or ear buds? Is the monitor pointed at the guitar?

I used to play with a floor monitor and moved it to my left at a 90 degree angle. That stopped the interaction with my top and internal mic... solution. Then, I moved to a smaller monitor and mounted it on a stand. That worked well too. Eventually, we all moved to ear buds and now it isn't an issue at all.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 12:34:59 PM »

Lutehole Co. has different levels of coverage available, light , med, heavy & will custom design one for you too. I'm sure they will do a solid if you like but the cover (feedback buster etc) is designed to block the frequency feeding back from resonating inside your guitar and interrupt the cycle from speaker to mic, not block the sound. Some use the lutehole cover to modify, or quiet the sound of the guitar permanently, or some use it for latenight practice etc., personally I use a heavy design of my own just for feed back and rarely need to use it at all. You really have to be in a bad situation placement wise with your monitor, or be screamin' loud with little EQ control to produce feedback that can not be managed with a tweak of the offending frequency. I have a Behringer feedback destroyer for my PA that seeks and kills the frequencies feeding back automatically for each room, works pretty good, but if I turn and face a monitor or amp I am going to get feedback with an acoustic guitar. If you are playing in a rock band in small clubs and need to crank it you are likely going to need a roll back on your EQ before any feedback device would be of benefit. I just noticed this thread is from 2006, this issue has likely been resolved. but here is the buster/lutehole designed for me.



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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 07:33:21 PM »

What do these lute hole covers do for an unamplified git?  Do they take much away? I really like their look but never play my D03HH plugged in....
 
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 08:36:58 PM »

I think, in the long run, you're better off controlling your signal. A good pre-amp DI with EQ might be a better idea. 
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