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« on: March 30, 2006, 10:46:51 PM »

I'm kicking around the idea of getting a "beater/lower price" twelve string. Don't want to spend over $450.00 or so. New or used. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2006, 10:55:54 PM »

I'm kicking around the idea of getting a "beater/lower price" twelve string. Don't want to spend over $450.00 or so. New or used. Any suggestions?

Seagull S12+, solid cedar top, 3 ply cherry back and sides, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard and bridge, with a case, should be around or under $450.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 12:22:04 AM »

My solution was even cheaper. I just borrowed my sister's 12-string Aria dread. ^_^ She has not played for years.

For the past 2 weeks I've been building my courage to change the strings. Maybe tonight!
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006, 12:47:16 AM »

Denis is right on with the Seagull. I have a Norman, which is also made by Godin. Great guitars!
Some of the older Yamahas are very nice indeed!
There is also one model of Washburn--not sure what it is--that has some Southwestern designs on the rosette that is an amazing guitar for the money!
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2006, 12:49:13 AM »

For the past 2 weeks I've been building my courage to change the strings. Maybe tonight!
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2006, 01:25:50 AM »

Just one word of advice if you're bound and determined to stay under $450: whatever you do, don't try out a Larrivee D-03-12!

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 01:25:55 AM »

I picked up an alvarez jumbo 12. Maple back and sides, engleman spruce top, rosewood board. Plays like butter and sounds great. 500 bucks.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2006, 01:32:14 AM »

You can get a good solid top Yamaha for that money.  Their necks are generally less of a handful than most 12s.

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2006, 01:52:12 AM »

I picked up a used D-02 12 with electronics for $450 a couple years ago.  Sounds better than a friends Seagull.  Might want to look around for one if you're not in a hurry. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006, 01:55:20 AM »

I've seen (but not tried) Breedlove Atlas' for around $500 which look like a very nice guitar.

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006, 03:30:16 AM »


   I also have a Norman B-18 12 string cedar top.....same folks as Seagull. I'd surely recommend it !
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006, 08:29:57 AM »

One more chime for the Norman! I don't know about you, Cminor, but I can change the personality of my Norman with different strings. I actually put a set of GHS phosphor bronzes on it and it was a different guitar. The Martin SP's are nice and you can't beat the Elixers for longevity. Dean Markleys are like driving a Jaguar to me!
I would love to try out a Breedlove Atlas 12. I tried the 6 string Atlas models and was very impressed. I also like almost every Alvarez guitar I pick up--how many guitar makers can you say that about? I've seen Alvarez guitars in used shops that are beat to hell, but they play in tune! Amazing company and they are a value.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2006, 12:25:26 PM »

Spend just a little more and you can get a used D-03-12. Its worth it....

Or as has been suggested, keep your eyes open and you might find a D-02-12 at your price.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2006, 02:05:37 PM »

Tech advice here.....Make sure the neck angle is correct.I say this because I have had to tell people that the guitar they bought won't set up any better.I know going into a shop with a good straight edge is weird but heck so am I.If the bottom of the straight edge sits below the top of the bridge and the saddle is low  and the action is med high that is pretty much it.Spend the money and get a good 12 string,if you do you will get a joy beyond joy guitar,that might just replace your 6 string on more tune's then you realize.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2006, 06:19:49 PM »

Well said Randy and Rob.
I was in a shop one time and the owner told me he sold his most expensive Taylor guitar to someone who was learning to play. He said he showed the guy other options, but the customer said he wanted the best so he would always be smiling when he practiced and the investment would "keep" him motivated to learn. He said the customer said he could afford the luxury, so he bought a high end guitar.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2006, 06:53:39 PM »

I know going into a shop with a good straight edge is weird but heck so am I.

Don't all the really great stores have someone in the back with a straight edge to them?
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2006, 08:09:47 PM »

I have a soft spot for Normans but like with most of the Godin-related acoustics the neck profiles don't float my boat.  If they suit you then I think they're worth a punt for the price.  However, the best 12-string acoustic I've played is my L-03 12 MT...yes, I know you want something cheap but if you're at all tempted to spend a bit more then these (and I imagine something like a D-03 12 too) are great. 
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2006, 09:45:32 PM »

ill second that Alvarez jumbo aj60  sounded very good..
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 12:35:12 AM »

Ok, I'll see your Alvarez and Larrivee, but I'll raise you "one Yamaha!" Sorry, I am watching "Deal or No Deal" on TV and the gambler in me is typing! :GRN>
Seriously, I just saw a great used Yamaha 12 string with the plastic back and electronics--I believe it is the APX? It was listed at $349 and probably needs to have the  truss rod adjusted. But, it sounded great!
There are a lot of choices...good luck and enjoy!
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 03:45:36 AM »

Spend just a little more and you can get a used D-03-12. Its worth it....

Or as has been suggested, keep your eyes open and you might find a D-02-12 at your price.

Randy is right on here. A couple of months ago I bought a mint D-02-12 off fleabay for a bit less (delivered) than your're budgeting. Keep your eyes open. Deals do happen.

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