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Title: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: BillnhisD-03RE on December 29, 2005, 02:31:10 AM
Hey everybody, I just changed out the tusq saddle on my D-03RE to a bone one from Larrivee. It REALLY made a difference!, more sustain, tone, note separation and BASS!!! Now it causes my belly to rumble like a Taco Bell lunch  :GRN> , man I am really glad I installed it now. Has anyone else noticed this dramatic of a change when they went to bone on their rosewood drednaught? 

Bill D.
saddle..beating a dead horse :GRN>


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: WVUBAMA on December 29, 2005, 03:33:02 AM
I had a Larrivee bone saddle replace the stock Tusq saddle on my D-03R. Man, what a difference!


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Calvin on December 29, 2005, 09:27:08 AM
I've only said it about 100 times already lol :GRN>


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Mikeymac on December 29, 2005, 03:53:20 PM
How much does Larrivee want ($$$) for a bone replacement saddle?

 :huh:


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jmhyer on December 29, 2005, 04:21:31 PM
Not sure, but I think about $20-25 USD, plus shipping.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jwsamuel on December 29, 2005, 04:26:32 PM
I read the title of this thread and it got me to wondering it the bone saddles are from a horse.

Jim


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Randy_R on December 29, 2005, 04:31:11 PM
I read the title of this thread and it got me to wondering it the bone saddles are from a horse.

Jim

Old cavalrymen..     :WNK>


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: BillnhisD-03RE on December 29, 2005, 05:04:25 PM
HEY MIKEY, I GOT MY NEW SADDLE FROM THE DEALER WHERE I BOUGHT MY LARRIVEE. TRY THAT FIRST, I THINK I ONLY PAID 20 BUCKS FOR IT AND SAVED SHIPPING TIME AND COSTS. I FILED IT DOWN TO FIT MYSELF  AND IT ONLY TOOK AN HOUR OR SO. IF YOU HAVE ELECTRONICS INSTALLED IN YOUR GUITAR IT WILL REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE CARE TO INSTALL THE NEW ONE.

CHEERS...
BILL D.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: rpg51 on December 29, 2005, 09:59:50 PM
Oh yea, got to do the bone. 


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: didymus21 on December 29, 2005, 10:54:15 PM
I'm about to replace with FWI...anyone experience significant differences between the bone and FWI with saddle material?


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: sublro on December 30, 2005, 02:52:24 PM
can anyone comment on going from TUSQ to bone on an OM-03R?


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jwsamuel on December 30, 2005, 02:56:41 PM
can anyone comment on going from TUSQ to bone on an OM-03R?

I did it when I had an OM-03R. Only thing I noticed was an addtional $25 on my credit card.

Try different types of strings.

Jim


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: rustychicken on December 30, 2005, 03:14:08 PM
i think sometimes there will be dramatic differences, sometimes subtle, sometimes not anything. of course that covers the whole gamut  :GRN>
i put a bone saddle in my L-09 and notices some nice subtle differences, none whatsoever in my OM-03MT,,,if anything it seems to prefer TUSQ.  i know a guitar builder who said he changed a Corian saddle to bone and it made a huge difference, but that was the only guitar in hundreds of changes that it happened to. it happens,,, i think it is probably more unusual to notice a whopping difference, but that sure is worth the incentive :ph34r:  of course, that's just speculation.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: prof_stack on December 30, 2005, 03:36:52 PM
Quote
I put a bone saddle in my L-09 and notices some nice subtle differences, none whatsoever in my OM-03MT,,,if anything it seems to prefer TUSQ.
Yeah, that's exactly what I found on my L-03MT.  I wanted to believe that bone was better but my ears said otherwise for this guitar.  Go figure.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Peter Cree on December 30, 2005, 03:42:31 PM
I've fooled around with this on at least 20 guitars.  Sometimes it makes a large difference and sometimes I'll go back to the tusq.

In Alabama the tusq's are loosa........................


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: saffron_boots on December 30, 2005, 04:01:28 PM
Does anybody have a photo of the bone replacement? I'm curious about the string compensation Larrivée is currently using.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: BillnhisD-03RE on December 30, 2005, 04:33:44 PM
I guess it is something that works best with the dreds. Friends have not had much if any change on their OMs or L body Larris either. I have not heard from anyone here if they did this on a "hog" D-03 and had a dramatic change like some of us with rosewood have. How about it mahogany owners???

cheers..
Bill D.

The next addition to my Larrivee stable will be an 05...man mahogany sounds so good too!!!


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jwsamuel on December 30, 2005, 04:47:31 PM
Does anybody have a photo of the bone replacement?

Not sure if it's what you were looking for, but here is a bone replacement:

(http://www.kluge-knee-hip.com/revisedknee.jpg)

Jim


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jwsamuel on December 30, 2005, 04:49:44 PM
I've fooled around with this on at least 20 guitars.  Sometimes it makes a large difference and sometimes I'll go back to the tusq.

I think you can get more of a difference by trying different types and gauges of strings.

Jim


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: NewStrings on December 30, 2005, 04:52:05 PM
Best laugh I've had in a while!!!!!!!  That is priceless!!!!!!!     :GRN>

NewStrings


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Peter Cree on December 30, 2005, 05:04:28 PM
I agree JW.   Chose the strings first.  Then set-up around those.  Just the way I do it.  D'ad 16's are always the choice for me.

Happy New Year!


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: saffron_boots on December 30, 2005, 05:28:50 PM
Not sure if it's what you were looking for, but here is a bone replacement:

(http://www.kluge-knee-hip.com/revisedknee.jpg)

Jim

Wow! That's quite the difference between the bass and treble sides. Good one.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: jwsamuel on December 30, 2005, 06:19:09 PM
I agree JW.   Chose the strings first.  Then set-up around those.  Just the way I do it.  D'ad 16's are always the choice for me.

Happy New Year!

D'ad 16s have become my choice as well - especially with mahogany.

Jim


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: didymus21 on December 30, 2005, 07:49:18 PM
Does anybody have a photo of the bone replacement? I'm curious about the string compensation Larrivée is currently using.

Here's a pic Saffron





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Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: BillnhisD-03RE on December 30, 2005, 10:17:36 PM
Yep that looks just like the one I got Didy.....is that a picture of a horses leg bone??? :GRN>

Bill D.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: naboz on December 31, 2005, 03:42:30 PM
Well, at least this dead horse still can smile...
 :GRN>
you guys are funny  ^_^


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: markwillplay on December 31, 2005, 04:34:59 PM
strange sometimes how things work.  When i replaced the tusq with bone on my old L09 it changed it very much.  I actually liked the tusq better as it really mellowed out the sound compared to the peircing bone sound.  This is the only guitar I have ever had that liked the tusq better.   Just sounded deeper and rounder with it.  My other guitars have been the opposite.


Peter, you should keep all those one liners in a collection  ^_^ 


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Peter Cree on December 31, 2005, 08:12:49 PM
Hi Markus,

Happy New Year!!!

My head just comes up with all this stuff and it spills out into the forums.  Lord help me.......

How's the Daithi?


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: markwillplay on December 31, 2005, 08:21:02 PM
enjoying dadgad the most.  sustain forever and getting deeper all the time.


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Bullhead00 on January 04, 2006, 06:28:47 PM
Has anyone tried replacing the saddle with walrus ivory?


Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: Denis on January 04, 2006, 06:33:40 PM
Has anyone trid replacing the saddle with walrus ivory?


Yes, I am curious about this as well.  Is it worth the $43?



Title: Re: New saddle...beating a dead horse?
Post by: didymus21 on January 05, 2006, 08:32:59 PM

Yes, I am curious about this as well.  Is it worth the $43?



I'll let you guys know within the week. :)  Just waiting for my tuners before I do it.  I also will have sound samples for you to show the difference.