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Title: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 26, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
I just received delivery of a brand new L-03GR Silver Oak two days ago.  This is my first Larrivee and this thing is stunning!  I can't believe the sound and projection it has.  This model came with an upgraded Sitka top and black body stripe binding found on the 09 series.

On closer inspection I have a concern with the stripe binding on the sides.  In many places it looks as though the silver oak sides splintered slightly when it was cut resulting in small voids where it meets the stripe binding.  These voids appear to have been filled with black filler causing the black stripe to have a noticeable variance in thickness in several places around the guitar.  Comparatively, the striping on the top and back is perfect.  

For those that are familiar with Larrivee fit and finish, particularly with the 09 side striping, is this normal?  I will see if I can attach some pictures this afternoon for better reference.  

Edit:  This is my first post....donuts for all!    :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Barefoot Rob on October 26, 2017, 06:54:18 PM
no pix showed up


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 26, 2017, 07:00:25 PM
It took a couple of tries, but they are showing up when I look at the thread now.  

Edit:  I posted using Chrome and I can see the pictures.  I just tried viewing them on Explorer and nothing shows up!  I'll try again. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: markj on October 26, 2017, 07:39:56 PM
No pics.

You need to use a hosting site like http://postimages.org/ and paste the direct link between the [img]  tags


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 26, 2017, 07:55:28 PM
I was trying to link from Google Photo.  Hopefully Postimage.org works!

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Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: rbpicker on October 26, 2017, 08:15:04 PM
It does look very “un-Larrivee” like. I’m betting it will never get any worse, so if everything else about the guitar is stellar, I’d probably ignore it and enjoy a great guitar. 

Rb


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 26, 2017, 08:22:22 PM
It does look very “un-Larrivee” like. I’m betting it will never get any worse, so if everything else about the guitar is stellar, I’d probably ignore it and enjoy a great guitar. 

Rb

The guitar is amazing otherwise, but again it is my first Larrivee and I was expecting the fit and finish that you hear everyone rave about on these forums.  It is disappointing, but it solely cosmetic. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 26, 2017, 08:23:40 PM
Here is an email I just received from Larrivee:

It is some slight gapping between the purfling and the body along the routing channel. We never like to see this, but it can happen from time to time with certain tonewoods because of grain patterns and grain stability. There is nothing to be done repair wise. It is purely cosmetic. If it makes you unhappy, your recourse would be to return it to the dealer. If you have further comments or questions, I will continue to provide you with information. It is my hope that my comments have lessened your concern and you are able to continue to enjoy your new 03GR to it's full potential.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on October 26, 2017, 09:14:57 PM
I have a couple of dozen Larrivees, and I have never noticed anything like that.  But, to be honest, I have never looked that close.  I look at a guitar as a whole ... how does it play, sound and look.  But I do not magnify glass them, or put mirrors inside to see if there might be an errant spot of glue.  But then, that is me.  I look at Trigger, and all is well with my guitars.  But I think Larrivee gave you good advice.  Play it and enjoy it.  If the cosmetics prevent you from doing that return it.  But if it feels good, plays good and sounds good, I would think hard before I did that.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: rbpicker on October 26, 2017, 11:59:17 PM
i just checked my OM-03 Silver Oak, and it exhibits a little bit of the same condition. Not quite as pronounced as yours appears, but it’s there. Frankly I hadn’t noticed it. Now that I know it’s there, I will just continue enjoying this fabulous guitar and probably never think it about it again.

Rb


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Rockysdad on October 27, 2017, 01:22:24 AM
First off,  :welcome:
 I'm wondering if it's that much more noticeable because of the dark/light contrast? For me it's hard to tell how I'd feel, unless I saw it up close and personal. If you run your hand or a finger over it, can you feel any sort of deviation? If not, I'd keep it. Good luck!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on October 27, 2017, 04:35:39 AM
I wouldn't be happy with it, but once understanding the cause and explanation, I wouldn't return it based on that alone.  Seems you really like how it plays and sounds, so it boils down to how much it bothers you, I guess.
 :nice guitar:


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Gordo in OZ on October 27, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
This would annoy me every time I looked at the guitar. It is not something that I would expect to see on a Larrivee. Frankly I am surprised they let this one out of the factory unless it was sold as a "second". Every Larrivee I have seen has been immaculate in fine detail.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 27, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
It is slightly annoying that it has some flaws, but this thing sounds amazing!  I put on some Gotoh tuners last night and played for a couple of hours.  It is truly remarkable otherwise! 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 27, 2017, 03:53:58 PM
First off,  :welcome:
 I'm wondering if it's that much more noticeable because of the dark/light contrast? For me it's hard to tell how I'd feel, unless I saw it up close and personal. If you run your hand or a finger over it, can you feel any sort of deviation? If not, I'd keep it. Good luck!

No, there is no feeling of any deviation.  Nice and smooth.  I'm sure the contrast makes it more noticeable. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: George on October 27, 2017, 05:03:44 PM
It sounds to me like this may be the result of the wood grain selection for an 03 model and nothing more, the finishing seems to be uniform.  It is just more noticeable where the black filler is wider?  I have a J-60 Silver Oak that was constructed of the highest quality of Silver Oak and I see none of these issues on my guitar.  Irregardless, it sounds like you really love the guitar so keep on keepin' it and enjoying it sounds like a great plan...


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: webberink on October 27, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
I wouldn't be happy with this blemish even on a cheap chinese guitar.  It would be on its way back to Larrivee through the dealer., pronto  A guitar the likes of Larrivee has to look as good as it plays and sounds.  I think as Larrivee fans and consumers we need to be the last line of quality control.  I wouldn't want a visually blemished guitar that is due to construction to be sold on to another consumer.  Handling dings and other playing marks are completely different in my mind.  They add to a guitar's mystique and appearance.  That is my opinion


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 27, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
I wouldn't be happy with this blemish even on a cheap chinese guitar.  It would be on its way back to Larrivee through the dealer., pronto  A guitar the likes of Larrivee has to look as good as it plays and sounds.  I think as Larrivee fans and consumers we need to be the last line of quality control.  I wouldn't want a visually blemished guitar that is due to construction to be sold on to another consumer.  Handling dings and other playing marks are completely different in my mind.  They add to a guitar's mystique and appearance.  That is my opinion

This is how I was feeling when I first discovered the issue.  I have reached out to the vendor to see what suggestions they have. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 27, 2017, 08:18:06 PM
It sounds to me like this may be the result of the wood grain selection for an 03 model and nothing more, the finishing seems to be uniform.  It is just more noticeable where the black filler is wider?  I have a J-60 Silver Oak that was constructed of the highest quality of Silver Oak and I see none of these issues on my guitar.  Irregardless, it sounds like you really love the guitar so keep on keepin' it and enjoying it sounds like a great plan...

Yes, it is just the black filler that makes it appear wider. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Mikeymac on October 28, 2017, 12:47:54 AM

I have a J-60 Silver Oak that was constructed of the highest quality of Silver Oak and I see none of these issues on my guitar.


I have a C-10 with Silver Oak back and sides, and I also see none of this on mine. However, I noticed (looking very closely at the side binding) that the 10 series also has a very thin light layer of binding between the wood and the thicker black layer of binding...this may be hiding some imperfections, but even looking very closely, I see nothing like what you have there. My suspicion is that they used a dull dremel blade when they cut the binding rout on the sides of your guitar, and it chipped out more wood than a sharp blade would have...


I wouldn't be happy with this blemish even on a cheap chinese guitar.  It would be on its way back to Larrivee through the dealer, pronto  A guitar the likes of Larrivee has to look as good as it plays and sounds. I think as Larrivee fans and consumers we need to be the last line of quality control.  I wouldn't want a visually blemished guitar that is due to construction to be sold on to another consumer.  Handling dings and other playing marks are completely different in my mind.  They add to a guitar's mystique and appearance.  That is my opinion


I agree with this 100% - it's not acceptable, and if it bothered you enough to post here about it, it will keep bothering you in the future. But it's your call. I'd send it back.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: webberink on October 28, 2017, 01:42:16 AM
I think the Rev is right, it was probably a tool issue.  He is also probably right about it being a bother in the future.  For me, a guitar is kinda like a marriage  ... its best to get it right and then commit to making it last.  I can't figure this out though.  If you were going to fill the wood to try and finish after making gaps like this in the silver oak, why wasn't a light coloured filler to match the silver oak not used???


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: ST on October 28, 2017, 02:02:38 AM
Hi Tom,

There are lots of great sounding Larrivée guitars out there. I would send this one back.

ST



Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on October 28, 2017, 02:58:24 AM
I keep thinking of Trigger ......
Looks are not the over riding concern.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: markj on October 28, 2017, 05:17:18 AM
I keep thinking of Trigger ......
Looks are not the over riding concern.

Says the man with some of the most gorgeous guitars in the known universe!   :winkin:


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on October 28, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
Says the man with some of the most gorgeous guitars in the known universe!   :winkin:

And yet, you have never heard me complain about build quality.  With as many Larrivees as I have, if I looked close enough, I could probably find something somewhere on one or more of them.  I just think of the old days, sitting on the floor in a circle, passing the guitar around, taking turns playing and singing.  Never once saw anyone get a magnifying glass or jewelers loupe out and check out the smallest finish details before they smiled and played.  Never saw anyone getting a dentist’s mirror out to see if there was some errant glue anywhere on the inside.  Just not important to me.  As a friend of mine once said to me, nothing man made is perfect.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: broKen on October 28, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
My new guitar isn't perfect!!! :crying: :crying: :crying:   :rolleye:

But it sounds great  :tongue:


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Gordo in OZ on October 28, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
The noticeable filler is just not expected on a Larrivee. There seems to be quite a lot of it too. You just don't get that even on the entry level guitars. There is something wrong with this whole story. It sounds like a second being sold as a first I would send it back. The perfect replacement will be just as good and maybe better.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: webberink on October 28, 2017, 11:46:30 PM
Get real!!  There is a big difference between the kind of obvious construction blemishes found on every surface except the top of the guitar in question and a little glue residue found on a brace somewhere on the inside of a guitar.  Again, as a Larrivee consumer we are the final line of quality control for our beloved guitar company.  I wonder what The Man himself would say if he saw this guitar?  I expect that with his demanding quality control standards he would want to reel it back in and replace it.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: markj on October 29, 2017, 01:58:48 AM
And yet, you have never heard me complain about build quality.  With as many Larrivees as I have, if I looked close enough, I could probably find something somewhere on one or more of them.  I just think of the old days, sitting on the floor in a circle, passing the guitar around, taking turns playing and singing.  Never once saw anyone get a magnifying glass or jewelers loupe out and check out the smallest finish details before they smiled and played.  Never saw anyone getting a dentist’s mirror out to see if there was some errant glue anywhere on the inside.  Just not important to me.  As a friend of mine once said to me, nothing man made is perfect.

Yes, yes. But, you have to admit, at the level of expectation of high build quality that Larrivee guitars have garnered over the past 50 years, one would think that something this noticeable would have been rejected by QC.  If the edge of that piece of wood could not be made to the same standards as all the other guitars, and even guitars of lesser cost, it should have been rejected.

It's pretty noticeable man. I would be taking it back.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Dotneck on October 29, 2017, 03:34:19 AM
It's pretty noticeable man. I would be taking it back.

If I bought it used at a reduced rate it would be one thing but as a new guitar I wouldn't keep it. It would bug me.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 30, 2017, 05:59:23 PM
Hi everyone.  Thanks so much for all of your input!  I'm glad that many of you feel the same way I do about this guitar.  So, here is the update:

I contacted the vendor.  They were very receptive which has been good.  I was told I had 2 options.  The first is that they would offer me a reduction in the price of the guitar.  The second, I could return the guitar for a full refund and they would pay for the shipping.  

When I followed up, they informed me the partial refund was going to be $100.  Needless to say that made my decision easy...the guitar is going back.  Again, the vendor has been fantastic which is great because this could have been very messy.  I think the fact that I reached out to Larrivee first and was able to send the vendor my correspondence to support the questionable workmanship helped my cause.

I agree with the comments above that it seems to be a tooling issue.  The gaps only appear on the sides and not the back, which is also the same material.  I am perplexed why they would use black to fill such noticeable areas instead of a colour that would match the silver oak.  I too wonder what Jean would think!  I was so excited to have a limited edition Larrivee signed by the man himself made from such unique and beautiful tone wood.

Moral of the story, beware of buying guitars just by photographs.  I live in a small town and don't have easy access to high end stores, so I believed I would be safe purchasing a Larrivee.  Unfortunately this experience has left a bit a of negative stigma of the brand...I would like to be proven wrong though because for the price these guitars sound like they are normally fantastic!  I would love to hear suggestions for what I should look for as a replacement!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on October 30, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
If you liked the guitar, buy another Larrivee.  Obviously they took care of you.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on October 30, 2017, 08:16:12 PM

Moral of the story, beware of buying guitars just by photographs.  I live in a small town and don't have easy access to high end stores, so I believed I would be safe purchasing a Larrivee.  Unfortunately this experience has left a bit a of negative stigma of the brand...I would like to be proven wrong though because for the price these guitars sound like they are normally fantastic!  I would love to hear suggestions for what I should look for as a replacement!

Surprised you are left with a negative stigma? You had a guitar that played and sounded wonderful by a company that stood behind its product when a defect arose. If you can think of a brand that gives you your 1st two and you are guaranteed of no "unfortunate experience" on the latter - then go with that one.

Me I don't think the latter exists, so I stick mainly with Larrivee as I know it will play perfect, sound exceptional and should a workmanship defect arise they won't turn their back on me.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: George on October 30, 2017, 08:20:12 PM
I agree, I think you will be safe buying another Larrivee guitar, even with the same choice for back/sides wood.  I have never been dissatisfied with any Larrivee guitars, their dealers nor their support.  I rate them higher than any other production line guitar maker.  This case appears to me to be very unusual for the brand...


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on October 30, 2017, 08:31:48 PM
Surprised you are left with a negative stigma? You had a guitar that played and sounded wonderful by a company that stood behind its product when a defect arose. If you can think of a brand that gives you your 1st two and you are guaranteed of no "unfortunate experience" on the latter - then go with that one.

Me I don't think the latter exists, so I stick mainly with Larrivee as I know it will play perfect, sound exceptional and should a workmanship defect arise they won't turn their back on me.

Maybe I phrased it wrong.  I am super impressed with the company and their dealer support.  What I meant to express is that I have second thoughts ordering another Larrivee sight unseen.  The problem is that I have it in my head that I would like a guitar that is unique--which is hard to find where I live.  First world problems!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Danny on October 30, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
One time I had a top shelf Larrivee, that had a dab of soft putty in a small gap at the nut. I talked to Larrivee about it, the answer made sense. End of story.
     That was fourteen or so Larrivees back. I have another one being shipped this week. A total of eighteen now i think. Five in my stall now.
      I guess if I looked close enough there would be a flaw in each one. No big deal.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: broKen on October 30, 2017, 11:25:25 PM
I think you'll regret returning it.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on October 31, 2017, 06:49:50 PM
I think you'll regret returning it.

I second that emotion.  Personally, I would contact the dealer and make a counter offer.
Considering the cost of shipping, time and everything else involved, I believe there should be wiggle room in the price.  Especially if you make it clear that the replacement guitar will not be purchased from them.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: broKen on October 31, 2017, 07:10:04 PM
One time I had a top shelf Larrivee, that had a dab of soft putty in a small gap at the nut. I talked to Larrivee about it, the answer made sense. End of story.
     That was fourteen or so Larrivees back. I have another one being shipped this week. A total of eighteen now i think. Five in my stall now.
      I guess if I looked close enough there would be a flaw in each one. No big deal.

Triple OOOhhh  :nanadance


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on November 02, 2017, 02:31:23 PM
Update:

While I was waiting for the vendor to send me return shipping information I went out and played a number of guitars to try and decide what I wanted.  I tried everything from a Larrivee L-03 Canada 150th Commemorative Edition, J-45, J-35, Hummingbird, D-18 and a D-16.  Honestly, nothing else was the silver oak...especially considering some of those guitars are well over twice the price!!  I especially wasn't impressed with the fit and finish on the Gibson J's regardless of price.  

I was also contacted by a forum member who shared how special and rare silver oak is and how Jean does not believe he can get much more.  I reached out to the vendor again and asked for a larger discount and we came to a number I found more agreeable.  So, the guitar is going to be staying with me!  It's my birthday today, so I'm going to open the shipping box like it's the first time!!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: George on November 02, 2017, 03:04:06 PM
Update:

While I was waiting for the vendor to send me return shipping information I went out and played a number of guitars to try and decide what I wanted.  I tried everything from a Larrivee L-03 Canada 150th Commemorative Edition, J-45, J-35, Hummingbird, D-18 and a D-16.  Honestly, nothing else was the silver oak...especially considering some of those guitars are well over twice the price!!  I especially wasn't impressed with the fit and finish on the Gibson J's regardless of price.  

I was also contacted by a forum member who shared how special and rare silver oak is and how Jean does not believe he can get much more.  I reached out to the vendor again and asked for a larger discount and we came to a number I found more agreeable.  So, the guitar is going to be staying with me!  It's my birthday today, so I'm going to open the shipping box like it's the first time!!

Well Happy Birthday!  And I think you made a great decision, Larrivee's are very hard to beat...


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: markj on November 02, 2017, 03:50:00 PM
Happy to hear you got it resolved to your satisfaction with the dealer. and are able to keep what is essentially the best guitar you can find. Even knowing about the binding filler you still came back to this guitar. Says a lot about the guitar for sure.

I agree about Gibson acoustics btw. I don't understand the attraction to be honest.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Walkerman on November 02, 2017, 04:46:46 PM
I love happy endings...  :cheers


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Mikeymac on November 02, 2017, 06:52:16 PM
 

I was also contacted by a forum member who shared how special and rare silver oak is and how Jean does not believe he can get much more.
 

I don't know who told you this, but unless I heard it directly from Jean, Matthew or John Jr., I'd be skeptical of this claim. I have not heard of silver oak being rare or hard to get...  :?

...and while many of us around here like silver oak, and believe it has some wonderful aesthetic and tonal properties, I don't think it's lighting the world on fire in terms of demand for guitar bodies...

No offense, just sayin' ...  :donut :coffee


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: rbpicker on November 02, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
Wise move.
Rb


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on November 02, 2017, 07:40:08 PM
Well Happy Birthday!  And I think you made a great decision, Larrivee's are very hard to beat...

Thank you!   :cheers  :donut :donut2


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on November 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
I don't know who told you this, but unless I heard it directly from Jean, Matthew or John Jr., I'd be skeptical of this claim. I have not heard of silver oak being rare or hard to get...  :?

...and while many of us around here like silver oak, and believe it has some wonderful aesthetic and tonal properties, I don't think it's lighting the world on fire in terms of demand for guitar bodies...

No offense, just sayin' ...  :donut :coffee

I was told that in a one-on-one conversation:  "Jean says that he is running out of silver oak, and doesn’t know if he can get more." 

This wasn't the main reason I kept it obviously.  I really like the sound.  Realistically, how many builders are even using this wood?  To my knowledge Larrivee is the only one doing it on a regular basis. 


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on November 02, 2017, 07:52:15 PM
Happy to hear you got it resolved to your satisfaction with the dealer. and are able to keep what is essentially the best guitar you can find. Even knowing about the binding filler you still came back to this guitar. Says a lot about the guitar for sure.

I agree about Gibson acoustics btw. I don't understand the attraction to be honest.

They have the "cool" factor I guess.  The biggest thing I saw on the J-45 and J-35 was that the fretboards weren't bound and the side of the fretboards were sprayed with gloss.  Where the fretboard sits on the body of the guitar there was a build-up gloss finish that looked like it accumulated and dried.  The fretboard side facing the sound hole seemed to be unfinished and covered with overspray.  They sounded pretty good though!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Queequeg on November 02, 2017, 08:22:02 PM
Happy Birthday, Tom.  :thumb


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Rockysdad on November 02, 2017, 11:56:10 PM
Happy birthday and, enjoy that guitar.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Riverbend on November 03, 2017, 10:30:47 AM
If it was like that in just one spot, or maybe two, I'd probably be inclined to ignore it and move on. Your pictures paint the issue as being greater than one or two bad areas. That'd be tough for me. They're expected to sound great AND look great. My OM-04 had a pretty poor spot of binding on the back that surprised me for having cleared QC. I kept the guitar because it sounds great and only had the one cosmetic flaw.  
I didn't read to the end of the thread before commenting, so happy birthday and I'm glad there was a good resolution!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: Paraclete on November 03, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
Happy Birthday!  I don't think I'd stress about that binding if the guitar itself is not compromised. The sound and playability are more critical factors in my opinion.  It almost looks like a translucency thing with the wood grain, though hard to tell from pics.  Enjoy and play the heck out of it!


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on November 04, 2017, 07:04:25 AM
All's well that ends well.  Enjoy your hard-earned guitar.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: markj on November 05, 2017, 01:05:58 AM
I played one of these today at Hatfield Guitars in Janesville, WI. Bill just took delivery of it and 4 additional Larrivees.

The L-01 Silver Oak did in fact exhibit the same trim issue in places. It seemed more subtle on this particular guitar but it was there in several areas.

It sounded and played awesome. Very rich and deeper bass than I expected. Gorgeous to look at as well.


Title: Re: New L-03 Silver Oak - Body Stripe Concern
Post by: tom1 on November 06, 2017, 07:20:55 PM
I played one of these today at Hatfield Guitars in Janesville, WI. Bill just took delivery of it and 4 additional Larrivees.

The L-01 Silver Oak did in fact exhibit the same trim issue in places. It seemed more subtle on this particular guitar but it was there in sever areas.

It sounded and played awesome. Very rich and deeper bass than I expected. Gorgeous to look at as well.

Good to know mine is not the only one!