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Title: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on September 22, 2017, 05:48:59 AM
I really like SG's. And I really like P90's. So when this came up I couldnt resist. Still on layaway.....couple of weeks and itll be home I reckon. I havent owned an Electric in a long time!  :nana_guitar

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Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on September 22, 2017, 06:53:26 AM
I think you'll be glad you did.  I am also a P-90 fan.  I'm betting that combination of body wood and those pickups will sound great.  That guitar looks gorgeous regardless.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: George on September 22, 2017, 12:15:35 PM
Any idea what year this one was made Scott?  I love P90's as well.  The SG is a real classic.  Looks like the tuning machines have been upgraded?


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Walkerman on September 22, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
Hey mate, did that use to belong to Angus?


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on September 22, 2017, 12:54:35 PM
I think you'll be glad you did.  I am also a P-90 fan.  I'm betting that combination of body wood and those pickups will sound great.  That guitar looks gorgeous regardless.

Cheers mate!  :thumb

Any idea what year this one was made Scott?  I love P90's as well.  The SG is a real classic.  Looks like the tuning machines have been upgraded?

George, its an '08. Small button Klusons ala '60's SG are standard on this model.

Hey mate, did that use to belong to Angus?

Hey it's possible!  :bowdown:

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Mikeymac on September 22, 2017, 02:54:48 PM
Got an amp for that thing?

If not, I highly recommend you check out the Roland/Boss Katana 50w ($199 USD) and (even better) 100w 112 ($329 USD) amps. These things are the real deal for a solid state amp that gets very real sounding tube tone.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on September 22, 2017, 03:42:42 PM
My duo partner has a 67 SG Special that I restored and yes P90's are the best way to IMO.Lovely guitar.Congrats.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on September 22, 2017, 07:25:34 PM
 :nice guitar:

I too like the SG's have a couple tho none with P90's

My fav has the minis



Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on September 22, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
Got an amp for that thing?

If not, I highly recommend you check out the Roland/Boss Katana 50w ($199 USD) and (even better) 100w 112 ($329 USD) amps. These things are the real deal for a solid state amp that gets very real sounding tube tone.

Not yet. I'll be getting something with tubes in it with a vintage feel. Not sure what yet, I'm sure something expensive will pop up and pry money out of my wallet at some stage....  :tongue:

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on September 22, 2017, 11:35:40 PM
May I suggest for home or jamming with friends a Peavey Classic 30 or maybe a Fender Princeton Reverb from the early or mid 70's,I've got a 76 that I bought new and its all I need and my duo partner is playing my old 94 Peavey Classic 30 in his band.The newer Classic 30's are pretty nice and Fender has the Blues Jr. thats not a bad tube amp at 15 watts.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on September 23, 2017, 01:13:44 AM
May I suggest for home or jamming with friends a Peavey Classic 30 or maybe a Fender Princeton Reverb from the early or mid 70's,I've got a 76 that I bought new and its all I need and my duo partner is playing my old 94 Peavey Classic 30 in his band.The newer Classic 30's are pretty nice and Fender has the Blues Jr. thats not a bad tube amp at 15 watts.

Yep, considering the Peavey Classic 30 Rob, used to have one when I had a Strat, used to run an Fulltone OCD into the clean channel. Great sound!

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on September 23, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
The new one's come with a foot switch that allow's you to switch the channel's,turn the boost on and off and reverb on and off.If I was gigging on electric I would be buying the classic 30.Oh and then now come with a Celestrin speaker.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on September 23, 2017, 04:57:55 AM
Got an amp for that thing?

If not, I highly recommend you check out the Roland/Boss Katana 50w ($199 USD) and (even better) 100w 112 ($329 USD) amps. These things are the real deal for a solid state amp that gets very real sounding tube tone.

Why not just use a tube amp if you want real sounding tube tone?


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Mikeymac on September 23, 2017, 05:26:08 PM
Why not just use a tube amp if you want real sounding tube tone?

No reason... I've used tube amps for years, and still have one (out of MANY)...a Mesa Express Plus 5:25. But the Katana's sound so good, I'm seriously considering selling the Boogie and getting a Katana at this point in my life and playing circumstances (I'll be 60 in January and I mostly play for worship on Sunday mornings).

Tube amps are great - but they are more expensive, heavier, and require more maintenance than a decent solid state amp. Rob's suggestions are good ones; I had a Princeton reissue for years and loved it. I've also owned several Peavey Classic series tube amps - mostly the Delta Blues 115 or 2x10 - also great amps - the 2x10 is KILLER with a speaker change. They're great amps. I was just offering a more cost-conscious option if the price and weight are an issue.

I guess I could have said all this in my first post, but that takes time (to write, then read...).


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on September 24, 2017, 01:58:58 AM
Delta Blues 115 or 2x10 - also great amps - the 2x10 is KILLER with a speaker change. They're great amps.

What speakers did you put into it Mikeymac?

:nice guitar:

I too like the SG's have a couple tho none with P90's

My fav has the minis

That's an interesting looking SG mate, Ive never seen one with that combination of pickups and scratch plate. Is that a standard guitar or has it been hot-rodded?

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Mikeymac on September 24, 2017, 02:37:51 AM

What speakers did you put into it Mikeymac?


I had a set of Reverend 1025 (10" 25w speakers) that sounded great in it. Really opened it up and got rid of the boxiness and prominent mids; opened it up and made the highs nicer and more "Fendery."  A set of Jensen C10's did the same thing (actually, I had tried the Jensen's first; they were from a Fender CRV - after comparing the CRV with the Jensens and the Delta Blues 210 with the same Jensens, I decided to sell the Fender!).

The Reverends were very similar to the Jensens. If anything, they sounded better than the Jensens; they were less harsh or spikey in the highs. But the Jensens also sounded very good...much better than the stock Peavey Blue Marvel speakers.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on November 18, 2017, 03:14:22 AM
Its home finally. Took a bit longer to pick it up than intended.... :rolleye:

Sounds good through the little Trace Elliot amp Iíve got here. Picking up a Dr Z. Mini Z in about a month, should sound great through that.  :thumb

(https://i.imgur.com/EnezdYL.jpg)


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: George on November 18, 2017, 03:58:29 AM
Man, this makes me want one too....


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on December 11, 2017, 06:32:16 PM
Gday Folks, well I took a peek inside and it had the PCB mounted pots. Call me old fashioned but that just aint right! I also didn't like the linear taper pots, Im one for riding the volume and tone pots a bit so I prefer the audio taper versions. Also it sounded a little choked up tone wise too, so I decided to get a vintage wiring kit with 500k CTS pots, .22 orange drops and switchcraft plug and pickup selector. Copper lined the cavity while I was at it. Out with the new and in with the old!
 Ive only had a chance to plug it in briefly onto a DrZ Mini Z, but its more responsive now and the tone seems to breath a bit better now. Threw on some witches hats while I was at it (prefer those).

Cheers, Scott.

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Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: George on December 11, 2017, 07:48:51 PM
Did you also wire it with the vintage 50's design so that the volume controls operate independently of one another?  I have made that mod to some Les Paul's...  definitely makes them sound better...


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Mikeymac on December 11, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
Nice upgrade - no doubt it does sound and function better!

"Out with the new, in with the old!" - LOVE it!

Nice SG!  :bowdown:


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on December 12, 2017, 05:59:33 AM
Nice wiring job.  I love the wood grain and the classic finish on it.  That was the look I was going for on my hybrid build from last spring.  And thanks for the great pictures, too.  After looking at your SG, I think I'm going switch out my knobs, selector switch knob and ring, and pickup rings to all black instead of amber/cream.  It just looks more classic on the Cherry Red Mahogany.  The attached picture is before I put on amber knobs, which it still currently has.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on December 12, 2017, 06:08:51 AM
Nice clean wiring job.Just beautiful to see. :thumb


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on December 12, 2017, 09:08:49 AM
Nice clean wiring job.Just beautiful to see. :thumb

Ah thanks rob, that means a lot coming from you. It got pretty busy in there once I hooked up the pick ups and the earth..... came out ok though.  :thumb

Nice wiring job.  I love the wood grain and the classic finish on it.  That was the look I was going for on my hybrid build from last spring.  And thanks for the great pictures, too.  After looking at your SG, I think I'm going switch out my knobs, selector switch knob and ring, and pickup rings to all black instead of amber/cream.  It just looks more classic on the Cherry Red Mahogany.  The attached picture is before I put on amber knobs, which it still currently has.
Man that's a real Rocker! I bet it sounds awesome too. What wood is the body?

Nice upgrade - no doubt it does sound and function better!

"Out with the new, in with the old!" - LOVE it!

Nice SG!  :bowdown:

Cheers mate!  :thumb

Did you also wire it with the vintage 50's design so that the volume controls operate independently of one another?  I have made that mod to some Les Paul's...  definitely makes them sound better...

Yes mate they do, I can run the treble pick up full tilt and blend in the neck for some nice Clapton "Woman Tone", but you can dial down one volume when both are engaged and it mutes both once its down to zero. Don't know if its supposed to do that, but I like that it does.

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: Mikeymac on December 12, 2017, 04:03:03 PM
Nice wiring job.  I love the wood grain and the classic finish on it.  That was the look I was going for on my hybrid build from last spring.  And thanks for the great pictures, too.  After looking at your SG, I think I'm going switch out my knobs, selector switch knob and ring, and pickup rings to all black instead of amber/cream.  It just looks more classic on the Cherry Red Mahogany.  The attached picture is before I put on amber knobs, which it still currently has.

I remember that build - very nice! I agree, it will look even better with black pickup surrounds and switch ring and tip.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on December 13, 2017, 06:31:32 AM
..........Man that's a real Rocker! I bet it sounds awesome too. What wood is the body?.................


The body is a one-piece Khaya (African mahogany).  Here is a link to the build.  http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=50522.0


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: ST on December 13, 2017, 02:25:13 PM
I've got a Gibson SG Artist Model Paisley case that's been waiting for the right SG forever.

Mine looks just like this.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0983/2712/products/p1_uxibntapk_so_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491329641) (https://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-artist-model-paisley-floral-sg-case-1968-paisley-floral)
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Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: obe-wan on December 16, 2017, 03:46:14 AM
I've got a Gibson SG Artist Model Paisley case that's been waiting for the right SG forever.

That's an interesting looking case. What happened to the guitar out of it? And more importantly, what colour was it?

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: ST on December 16, 2017, 07:14:44 AM
Hi Scott,

I don't remember the exact circumstances when I got the case but would have been about 30 years ago. There may have been an SG in there. I vaguely recall having a guitar with a broken neck. Given my temperament back then, I would probably not have kept the guitar. But I kept the case.



Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: photodork on December 18, 2017, 12:15:25 AM
You guys have lovely sg's.  A bit jelly here.


Title: Re: NGD Gibson SG Classic P90.
Post by: George on December 18, 2017, 12:57:43 AM
I've got a Gibson SG Artist Model Paisley case that's been waiting for the right SG forever.

Mine looks just like this.



I have a plain old Guardian SG case that is empty as well.  I kept my Gibson Nighthawk in it for a short while.  I would Love to find a nice SG like Scott found to put in it...