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Title: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 03, 2017, 12:54:43 AM
 :coffee :coffee :donut2 :donut
So now I am curious.
How many of us have Larrivee brazilian rosewood guitars? I count three so far.
I recently got a Larrivee 95 L-10 brazilian. And yes, it is pretty much my dream guitar tho the LV-10 and 98 C-05 are in the same arena, but can't match....
It gets played a lot.
Mike


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 03, 2017, 02:45:27 AM
I don't own any Brazilian guitars I have played a lot of them,vintage Martins and Gibson and was never a fan until I played an OM09 Brazilian,come to think of it I didn't ever really care for rosewood of any kind guitars until I owned an LS10 that was my main gig guitar for years.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: B0WIE on August 03, 2017, 03:36:09 AM
No Brazilian Larrivee but I have a Bourgeois. There are two Larrivee SDs out there, one which comes up for sale every so often but it's always over priced. If that one ever comes up at a fair price I'll probably snatch it.  Truthfully, I'm not really knocked out by Brazilian as being necessarily better than other options. But, it can be very nice.  The top wood is really where it's at.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: markj on August 03, 2017, 04:25:47 AM
The EIR on my 50th Anniversary is about as close to Brazilian Roesewood as I am likely to get.

I have zero complaints about the tone of this masterpiece of a guitar.   :nana_guitar


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: 247hoopsfan on August 03, 2017, 04:28:02 AM
The L10 must be nice Mike.  I have a 1998 D10 Brazilian Flying Eagle.  It's just an incredible guitar.  I did have a D10 EIR before I bought the Brazilian
and kept both for a while.  So I had ample time to compare the 2 and in my mind, the Brazilian makes a big difference.  There is just more sustain and
overtones that come out of the Brazilian.  Some refer to it as a glassy, reverb tone and I agree.  It is also noticeably lighter than my Goodall and my
JCL 40th Anniversary Edition.  
Here is a recording of the D10: https://soundcloud.com/247hoopsfan/parsley-sage-rosemary-thyme

Mark, your L10 sure looks nice as GOTM.



Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on August 03, 2017, 11:18:45 AM
Here's my BR


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Walkerman on August 03, 2017, 12:59:41 PM
Andrew ... what service do you use to post your pictures?


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: George on August 03, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
Here's my BR

Andrew what C model is this custom Brazilian florentine cutaway?  Is the back satin finished?


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on August 03, 2017, 02:28:05 PM
 
Here is a recording of the D10: https://soundcloud.com/247hoopsfan/parsley-sage-rosemary-thyme

Mark, your L10 sure looks nice as GOTM.


Very nice sound clip - as are the others you have on there!  :+1:

For some reason, I can't see the GOTM - don't know if it's my browser or what... I'm logged in, so it's not that.  :?


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: markj on August 03, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
It's not showing up on the home page? at: http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php

Does it show up here?

(https://s19.postimg.org/sc4b1cbyr/LV10_Tree_Shot.jpg)


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: B0WIE on August 03, 2017, 04:46:11 PM
Here's my BR
That's got to be my favorite fretboard inlay of any Larrivee I've seen.  Nice!!  Bold, but also tasteful.  I think more of the Wendy headstock guitars should have fretboard work like that, for symmetry. 


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 03, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
The L10 must be nice Mike.  I have a 1998 D10 Brazilian Flying Eagle.  It's just an incredible guitar.  I did have a D10 EIR before I bought the Brazilian
and kept both for a while.  So I had ample time to compare the 2 and in my mind, the Brazilian makes a big difference.  There is just more sustain and
overtones that come out of the Brazilian.  Some refer to it as a glassy, reverb tone and I agree.
:donut :donut2 :coffee
The L-10 BZ is nice and has a cool head stock inlay, and had some fret work done before I got it, so it had been well played.
The only guitar I can compare to is the 2010 LV-10, but the guitars are 15 years apart.
I do reach for the L-10 first nowadays. When I put the Martin retro monel strings on it, it was great. Then the strings "mellowed quickly to a warm vintage tone", which Martin may say is more "fundamental", which is another way of saying "they were dead" after a month, which is normal for a guitar that gets played a couple hours every day.

Anyhow, I still have a couple sets left of the Martin SP PB 12-54 that Danny gave me, so both guitars will get changed at the same time.
I will admit tho, that after I got the LV-10, plus played the rosewood Larrivees recently at Guitar Tex, and now this BZ, that Larrivee does rosewood really good, especially on the L-bodies. It took the L-05 to get me off my Martins, and the C-05s to reinforce that, and now I am circling back into rosewood from the Larrivee direction.

Mike


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on August 04, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
It's not showing up on the home page? at: http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php

Does it show up here?


When I open that link (or go to the Forum homepage) I can't see the guitar, but I can see the photo of it in your post - very nice indeed! Thanks for sharing it!



Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: J M Larrivée on August 04, 2017, 04:13:45 PM
  If anyone is interested, I happen to have an unplayed L-09 Braz from early 2014 I'd be happy to release at a decent price. If you are interested, message me. No tire kickers please  :thumbsup

 Regards

 john jr


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 04, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
  If anyone is interested, I happen to have an unplayed L-09 Braz from early 2014 I'd be happy to release at a decent price. If you are interested, message me. No tire kickers please  :thumbsup
 Regards
 john jr
:donut :donut2 :coffee
John,
I am not sure if it would be right for any of us to own more than one BZ, and I personally have to buy used Larrivee guitars to have really good ones, but it would be an act of kindness for us all if you could post a picture of the back of the 2014 so we can at least see it.
Mike


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: J M Larrivée on August 04, 2017, 06:54:07 PM


 Here is the L-09, photos below.

(I also have a 000-60 Brazilian/Adirondack combo that is a 2005 and lightly used with a sappy wood patch on the back. Nice Price, needs a good home)


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Walkerman on August 05, 2017, 03:09:17 AM
Here's my BR

Crap.  I took a close look at your guitar picture, and it really freaked me out.  I thought man, you not only have the same couch as me,  you even have the same pillows ..... then I remembered.  Old age is a drag.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: ducktrapper on August 05, 2017, 03:27:24 PM
I'll get back to you.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: 247hoopsfan on August 05, 2017, 04:20:39 PM
Here is a little brazilian back and sides from my D10>




(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4398/36219508212_984cfed1e3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XbArVw)LarriveeBrazilianFlyingEagle002 (https://flic.kr/p/XbArVw) by KEITH GREENAWAY (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157495815@N05/), on Flickr



(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4349/36219531342_0398aa59db_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XbAyNj)LarriveeBrazilianFlyingEagle004 (https://flic.kr/p/XbAyNj) by KEITH GREENAWAY (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157495815@N05/), on Flickr



Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on August 05, 2017, 05:55:22 PM
Crap.  I took a close look at your guitar picture, and it really freaked me out.  I thought man, you not only have the same couch as me,  you even have the same pillows ..... then I remembered.  Old age is a drag.
  :roll


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: George on August 05, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
I still have not received mine yet, it should arrive late next week, but I can share some photos...


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: 247hoopsfan on August 05, 2017, 08:57:23 PM
George, the D10 looks awesome.  Wait till you get a whiff of that brazilian coming out of the sound hole, not
to mention the mesmerizing sound!   :nanadance :nice guitar:


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Walkerman on August 05, 2017, 09:56:13 PM
I'll get back to you.
Duck .... you just do not see Braz like that anymore.  That is a keeper.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 05, 2017, 11:12:02 PM
Ok, here is mine. 1995 L-10.
(edit - I got this thru the forum a few months back)


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: ducktrapper on August 05, 2017, 11:38:00 PM
Duck .... you just do not see Braz like that anymore.  That is a keeper.

You got that right and it's not going anywhere.   :cheers


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 05, 2017, 11:51:04 PM
Duck .... you just do not see Braz like that anymore.  That is a keeper.
Yep, I agree. Really, really nice. I'd like to play it one of these days, if Duck doesn't shoot me when I get near his lawn, his lake, his sky......  :smile:
Mike


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: ducktrapper on August 06, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
Yep, I agree. Really, really nice. I'd like to play it one of these days, if Duck doesn't shoot me when I get near his lawn, his lake, his sky......  :smile:
Mike

Any time mate. I don't even have a gun on this side of the border. Whole lot of rigamarole to go through to possess a gun, any gun, in Canada. If a fox or something bigger grabs one of our dogs. all I have is a sharp stick. And I'd likely be in trouble if I used it.   :cheers   


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: headsup on August 07, 2017, 11:21:43 PM
I have an older c-09 custom BZ.
 it's cannon, compared to all my other guitars.
I'm one of those people who pretends he can tell the difference.
I DO know the attack immediacy, and protection of BZ over EI is more than noticeable.

sound people and audience types always comment that particular guitar when it's on the gig, more so than any of the others.
 It was made for some-one, who asked for no logo, single 12th fret inlay and the celtic thing on the bridge wings.
 Maple binding, and the most perfect quarter sawn mahogany neck I've ever seen on any guitar.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: George on August 07, 2017, 11:46:08 PM
I have an older c-09 custom BZ.
 it's cannon, compared to all my other guitars.
I'm one of those people who pretends he can tell the difference.
I DO know the attack immediacy, and protection of BZ over EI is more than noticeable.

sound people and audience types always comment pos that particular guitar when it's on the gig, more so than any of the others.
 It was made for some-one, who asked for no logo, single 12th fret inlay and the celtic thing on the bridge wings.
 Maple binding, and the most perfect quarter sam mahogany neck I've ever seen on any guitar.


Beautiful guitar Kevin!


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Davy Vanthuyne on August 08, 2017, 12:06:50 AM
If it was legal in Europe, I really would like to play a brazilian Larrivée. You all are lucky guys.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: edbruton on August 08, 2017, 01:43:35 AM
I have a 2008, 000-60  Brazilian I got last year; supposedly a Larrivee rep.s guitar.
My love however is a 000-60 Madagascar with a gorgeous back and bear claw top complete with
amazing sound that I got from our own Bob Warman, last year also!


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: mike in lytle on August 11, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
I did have a D10 EIR before I bought the Brazilian and kept both for a while.  So I had ample time to compare the 2 and in my mind, the Brazilian makes a big difference.  There is just more sustain and overtones that come out of the Brazilian.  Some refer to it as a glassy, reverb tone and I agree.
:donut :donut2 :coffee
I have now had a chance to do a comparison, with 12-54 Martin monel retros on the L-10 BZ (1995) and an L-09 EIR (2006), and yes there is a difference and it is easily noticed.
On the E, A, and D strings there is a lower and deeper bass frequency response on the L-09, which is not on the L-10. It is not a problem except for finger picking quick alternate bass patterns, then those patterns lose some clarity. The L-10 has much less of those lower bass frequencies, all the notes ring out clear. The L-10 also seems to have a faster attack in the bass range that seems not so evident on the L-09. I have never completely understood the term "bloom", perhaps that is what I am hearing on the L-09. The sustain of both guitars seems similar, but with the L-10, is more enjoyable to hear.
There doesn't seem to be a difference I can hear with the G, B, and E strings.
The term "glassy" does apply to the L-10, as well as "piano-like".

I also played the LV-10 (2010) with it's newer 12-53 Elixer nano 80-20, and the same comments apply as with the L-09. One can sense with the same strings the LV-10 and L-09 would sound in the same "zone". I have no idea the effect of the spruce tops on the 3 guitars. They do look different.
Not sure about "projection", and I kinda think all 3 guitars are similar, volume-wise.

The lack of lower end boom and quick attack are also what I like about the L-05 and C-05s, except they decay much faster.
The L-10 needs a new saddle, the current one is pretty well "grooved" at all 6 strings. I did notice the bridge pin at the high E string is unslotted, but the guitar is 22 years old.

I hope this makes sense.
(edit - added pic)
Mike


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: fretwired on September 08, 2017, 04:41:55 PM
 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 ...  "The Zen philosopher, Basho, once wrote, 'A flute with no holes, is not a flute. A donut with no hole, is a Danish.' He was a funny guy." - Ty Webb/CaddyShack

Hello everyone. My name is Paul and I too own a beautiful Larrivee Brazilian. In fact, I own two. One is a C-10 and the other D-10. Both purchased new in 1996. Each was made in 1994.
 
Long story short, mid 90's. Never had owned a BZ before but was ready to purchase. Friend of a friend was a dealer in the Chicagoland area, doing business with the likes of Makin Music, Chicago Music Exchange...etc. Through a phone call the dealer told me that he had just come upon a Larrivee Dreadnaught and would I like to audition the guitar? Of course, why not? I had, prior to that meeting, auditioned a few in the Chicago area and nothing caught my fancy. Anyway, I meet this guy and play the guitar. Stunning right? Sonically, visually. My dream guitar. Well he says before you fall in love with that guitar, I've something to show you. He leaves the room and comes back with another. This one is a gorgeous C-10. Again, the attention to detail was out of this world but now he had thrown me for a loop. Two beautiful guitars, but sonically totally different. I sat there for what seemed like an eternity playing them, trying to decide which one to buy. Well, you know how that turned out. When he said "Well if you can't decide, why don't you take them both", my head spun. One of these is putting me in the dog house with the wife, two and she would send me to the pound. But I did it. I walked out with two Larrivee Brazilians.

I spoke to John Jr. yesterday. I had some questions pertaining to the C-10. Wanted to know the build year and exact material used. I mentioned that I might want to sell the C-10 but didn't know what it's value is or what direction to go. He recommended I visit the forum, introduce myself and most likely someone would be willing to stear me in the right direction.

Anyway, here's some C-10 Jester porn. Looking forward to the dialogue.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: headsup on September 08, 2017, 05:36:48 PM
nice couch too. :+1:


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on September 09, 2017, 11:24:10 PM
I've always assumed my 79 L-19 is EIR; anyone here think it might be BZ? The back looks more like EIR; but the sides look a little like BZ... I know, wishful thinking!

Thanks! Sorry I don't have better pics.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on September 09, 2017, 11:27:23 PM
Two more...

 :donut :coffee


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: rosborn on September 10, 2017, 12:06:04 AM
Crap.  I took a close look at your guitar picture, and it really freaked me out.  I thought man, you not only have the same couch as me,  you even have the same pillows ..... then I remembered.  Old age is a drag.

Now that was funny!


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Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: eded on September 10, 2017, 12:06:22 AM
Just out of curiosity...  how many's in a Brazilian?  

 :humour:

Ed


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: rosborn on September 10, 2017, 12:07:06 AM
Two more...

 :donut :coffee

Beautiful!


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Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: George on September 10, 2017, 02:27:19 AM
I've always assumed my 79 L-19 is EIR; anyone here think it might be BZ? The back looks more like EIR; but the sides look a little like BZ... I know, wishful thinking!

Thanks! Sorry I don't have better pics.

Could be Madagascar RW? Sometimes they look an awful lot like BZ...


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Walkerman on September 10, 2017, 02:42:00 PM
Andrew what C model is this custom Brazilian florentine cutaway?  Is the back satin finished?

It is the 30th anniversary model.  Lady in the mirror inlay.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Walkerman on September 10, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Some braz

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4365/36960700036_d81092eb6c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Yj6fqU)DSC01723-1 (https://flic.kr/p/Yj6fqU) by
 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156856606@N07/)


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: George on September 10, 2017, 09:18:37 PM
Some braz

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4365/36960700036_d81092eb6c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Yj6fqU)DSC01723-1 (https://flic.kr/p/Yj6fqU) by

 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156856606@N07/)

Bu-tee-full!


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on September 10, 2017, 09:56:23 PM
Could be Madagascar RW? Sometimes they look an awful lot like BZ...

I don't think Larrivee used any Madagascar back in the 70's/80's - but I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: J M Larrivée on September 13, 2017, 02:56:57 PM
Two more...

 :donut :coffee


East Indian Rosewood 100% :thumbsup


Title: Re: Brazilian Owners
Post by: Mikeymac on September 13, 2017, 06:16:57 PM

East Indian Rosewood 100% :thumbsup

Thanks, John!