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Title: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 12:48:33 AM
 This forum helped me pick out my first guitar the OM-03.  I had only been playing a short time when I got that guitar.  Fast forward over eight years and I absolutely still love this guitar.

 Fortunately I have a few bucks to spend and really would like to buy another guitar. I have no interest in getting rid of my OM  and I'm simply looking for another guitar to complement it.  I have looked at the Taylor 814 CE and a number of Martin's.  The 814 CE sounded just a little too bright for me but it is growing on me. Really would like to try the  Martin 000–28 EC but cannot find one locally.   Sadly in South Florida the Larrivee inventory is almost nonexistent

  I consider myself a novice to an intermediate. Just like playing modern music everything from Dave Matthews to Allman Brothers. I considered it a milestone when I finally could play little Martha without sounding horrible!

Any thoughts would be appreciated


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: George on May 18, 2017, 01:20:19 AM
I have never owned a Larrivee that I did not love.  If I were you, I would consider an L body, quite different from an OM and an extraordinary guitar in its own right.  Buy one on online from a reputable Larrivee dealer...

 :nanadance :nana_guitar


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Walkerman on May 18, 2017, 02:29:41 AM
How do you want to use it?  Couch guitar, or playing with a group?  That will determine what size.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Barefoot Rob on May 18, 2017, 02:53:55 AM
Try an L03R different body shape different tone wood.Order from one of the on line dealers,some hang here but others may make a better suggestion.Where in S.Fl. are you?


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: AZLiberty on May 18, 2017, 03:00:15 AM
Larrivee L-03R or D-40R
Martin M-36 or D-35
Guild 12-string


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: eded on May 18, 2017, 03:33:43 AM
2 ways to go...

A) bigger and bassier...  i.e. dread or L (personally, I'd go L)
B) smaller and more articulate...  i.e. parlor

Or, 3.  AZ's 12 string suggestion is a great one.

Ed


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
How do you want to use it?  Couch guitar, or playing with a group?  That will determine what size.
Definitely a couch guitar. At my age just can't see ever joining a band.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:24:13 AM
  A few of you have mentioned the L series. Funny that was my dream guitar at the time the LV – 10. I just couldn't afford it but can now. It's just a little daunting to buy a guitar at that price point without ever having laid hands on it.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:26:51 AM
Try an L03R different body shape different tone wood.Order from one of the on line dealers,some hang here but others may make a better suggestion.Where in S.Fl. are you?
. Broward County. Sam ash used to carry Larrivee that's how I first discovered them.  I then found this form which was really helpful.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: rosborn on May 18, 2017, 11:30:36 AM
You can even go the "custom" route and order from Wildwood or Notable. Both have very nice prices and have great reputations as Larrivee dealers.


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Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 12:07:27 PM
You can even go the "custom" route and order from Wildwood or Notable. Both have very nice prices and have great reputations as Larrivee dealers.


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 Small world. Bought my OM03 from Jason at notable guitar based on this forum. Wonder if he still there   Looking at their website now re custom


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Mikeymac on May 18, 2017, 01:17:06 PM
Some great suggestions already.

Another possibility - a Larrivee LS body (small L body) - there have been a few made with cutaways, too. Jason might even have something along these lines in stock; he could certainly order you one.

An L body would still be pretty couch friendly (depending on how tall you are); the LS even more so. Rosewood b/s would be good since you have a hog OM.

Another one to consider - the Martin 000-18. It's been updated (in 2014 I think) and it gets rave reviews. Even though it is similar in size and woods to your Larrivee, it will have a different tone just because it's a Martin. But it would be very comfy on the couch, and have plenty of volume.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Walkerman on May 18, 2017, 01:41:14 PM
A couch guitar ....  OO all hog, 12 frets.  I have one and it is the perfect couch guitar.  It is my sitting on the couch, playing the blues when I have the blues guitar.  Unique sound ...... smoooooooth.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: rosborn on May 18, 2017, 02:27:45 PM
Some great suggestions already.

Another possibility - a Larrivee LS body (small L body) - there have been a few made with cutaways, too. Jason might even have something along these lines in stock; he could certainly order you one.

An L body would still be pretty couch friendly (depending on how tall you are); the LS even more so. Rosewood b/s would be good since you have a hog OM.

Another one to consider - the Martin 000-18. It's been updated (in 2014 I think) and it gets rave reviews. Even though it is similar in size and woods to your Larrivee, it will have a different tone just because it's a Martin. But it would be very comfy on the couch, and have plenty of volume.

I had a Martin 000-18 and you are absolutely correct in its sounding very different from a Larrivee OM-03, despite being the same woods. The OM-03 is much more balanced across the strings while the 000-18 has a more pronounced bass and treble. Great guitar. Although, the Larrivee 000-40, with its newer bracing, sounds very similar to a 000-18.


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Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: jpmist on May 18, 2017, 06:02:14 PM
This forum helped me pick out my first guitar the OM-03.  I had only been playing a short time when I got that guitar.  Fast forward over eight years and I absolutely still love this guitar.
. . . I consider myself a novice to an intermediate. Just like playing modern music everything from Dave Matthews to Allman Brothers. I considered it a milestone when I finally could play little Martha without sounding horrible!

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Having now accumulated 3 acoustics all of which receive regular play, I sometimes wonder, "what was I thinking? Three guitars?" Still no regrets as I've found that certain songs I play do better on a particular guitar.

What I like is that all three sound different, yet all three play exactly the same. So I guess that's where I'd lead you, to find another guitar with a much different tone, rather than one drastically different in size. That could mean the same body shape, but different top, back or sides, but you could go even further afield with a L or D size if you feel you wanna strum more.

Specifically, and I'm very biased here, I'd steer you to a 12 fret, since that's gonna be a much different tone than you're used to. Or consider a mahogany topped OM. There's a 12 fret OM on ebay currently, but you could also consider the Larrivee OO as well as any Taylor 12 fret Grand Concert.

Good luck, am sure you'll know the one you want when you see/hear it. . . :nana_guitar


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: George on May 18, 2017, 06:05:00 PM
Having now accumulated 3 acoustics all of which receive regular play, I sometimes wonder, "what was I thinking? Three guitars?" Still no regrets as I've found that certain songs I play do better on a particular guitar.

What I like is that all three sound different, yet all three play exactly the same. So I guess that's where I'd lead you, to find another guitar with a much different tone, rather than one drastically different in size. That could mean the same body shape, but different top, back or sides, but you could go even further afield with a L or D size if you feel you wanna strum more.

Specifically, and I'm very biased here, I'd steer you to a 12 fret, since that's gonna be a much different tone than you're used to. Or consider a mahogany topped OM. There's a 12 fret OM on ebay currently, but you could also consider the Larrivee OO as well as any Taylor 12 fret Grand Concert.

 :+1:  great comments, I have found the very same to be true...


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: carruth on May 18, 2017, 08:36:48 PM
Suggest a Larrivee 00. :thumb Perfect for playing on the couch.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on May 18, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
 A few of you have mentioned the L series. Funny that was my dream guitar at the time the LV – 10. I just couldn't afford it but can now. It's just a little daunting to buy a guitar at that price point without ever having laid hands on it.

Do it!  Get the 50th Anniversary model. I did. I am never getting rid of it.  :guitar :beer :donut :donut2 :coffee


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:22:43 PM
A couch guitar ....  OO all hog, 12 frets.  I have one and it is the perfect couch guitar.  It is my sitting on the couch, playing the blues when I have the blues guitar.  Unique sound ...... smoooooooth.

 Sorry man, have to show my ignorance. 00 all hog 12 fret would be.... which Larrivee? 


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on May 18, 2017, 11:26:57 PM
This guitar with a custom mahogany top. The "custom part" of adding a Mahogany top will cost you an additional $150.00 MSRP.

http://www.larrivee.com/products/00-40


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
Do it!  Get the 50th Anniversary model. I did. I am never getting rid of it.  :guitar :beer :donut :donut2 :coffee

 :cop:    No way! I just googled it. What a beautiful fantastic looking guitar!  I said I had a few bucks but yikes 7 g is pretty steep! But what in amazing instrument. Do you really have it? How  does it play? Talk me into it!


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:49:34 PM
This guitar with a custom mahogany top. The "custom part" of adding a Mahogany top will cost you an additional $150.00 MSRP.

http://www.larrivee.com/products/00-40

Got it thanks


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 18, 2017, 11:56:15 PM
Thanks for everyones feedback. In a day and a half I got  more valid comments then I could have spending three days surfing the net. In a nut shell I need to look at:

 Larrivee LS. Possible cut away. Rosewood back and sides will change tone from what I have.   
Or Martin 000-18. Or Larrivee 000-40
12 fret or mahogany topped OM
Larrivee 00 or any Taylor 12 fret grand concert
50th anniversary Lv-10 (so far that is my favorite. Cannot believe the craftsmanship on that guitar. But man what a price)
00-40 legacy with mahogany top



Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: rosborn on May 19, 2017, 01:14:20 AM
Thanks for everyones feedback. In a day and a half I got  more valid comments then I could have spending three days surfing the net. In a nut shell I need to look at:

 Larrivee LS. Possible cut away. Rosewood back and sides will change tone from what I have.   
Or Martin 000-18. Or Larrivee 000-40
12 fret or mahogany topped OM
Larrivee 00 or any Taylor 12 fret grand concert
50th anniversary Lv-10 (so far that is my favorite. Cannot believe the craftsmanship on that guitar. But man what a price)
00-40 legacy with mahogany top

You can kill two birds with one stone by just looking at the 000-40 because it is a 12 fretter.  Sooooo comfortable to play and such a rich tone and volume with the newer bracing.  I'm pretty sure that the 40 series has blown many people away.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on May 19, 2017, 01:48:53 AM

 :cop:    No way! I just googled it. What a beautiful fantastic looking guitar!  I said I had a few bucks but yikes 7 g is pretty steep! But what in amazing instrument. Do you really have it? How  does it play? Talk me into it!

Well, you don't have to pay 7g. Here is #1 of 50 listed on Reverb for $5,623.50.

https://reverb.com/item/5211135-larrivee-lv-10-50th-anniversary-model-number-1-of-50

Yes, I really have it. #2 of 50. I am already getting ready to change the factory strings out with another set that Larrivee sent me with an order from the Accessories store.

It is such a joy to play and to hear others play. The tone is so rich and full yet completely balanced. The dynamic range and headroom are second to none, and the projection is better than any guitar I have heard.

Just DO IT!   You will love it.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: ducktrapper on May 19, 2017, 11:09:19 AM
So ... you want another guitar that just sits on the couch and says nice things about your OM-03? Oh wait ... complement!  :guitar  


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 19, 2017, 01:30:48 PM
So ... you want another guitar that just sits on the couch and says nice things about your OM-03? Oh wait ... complement!  :guitar  

  :beer pretty much!


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 19, 2017, 01:32:59 PM
Well, you don't have to pay 7g. Here is #1 of 50 listed on Reverb for $5,623.50.

https://reverb.com/item/5211135-larrivee-lv-10-50th-anniversary-model-number-1-of-50

Yes, I really have it. #2 of 50. I am already getting ready to change the factory strings out with another set that Larrivee sent me with an order from the Accessories store.

It is such a joy to play and to hear others play. The tone is so rich and full yet completely balanced. The dynamic range and headroom are second to none, and the projection is better than any guitar I have heard.

Just DO IT!   You will love it.

 Thanks for the info. I am really blown away by the looks of that guitar. Fortunately I have a very understanding wife who probably would not bust my chops too badly about it. It's definitely on the radar


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Mikeymac on May 19, 2017, 08:05:41 PM
Thanks for the info. I am really blown away by the looks of that guitar. Fortunately I have a very understanding wife who probably would not bust my chops too badly about it. It's definitely on the radar

You have a very understanding (or intimidated) wife!  I would no longer be married if I did that - and not because she would divorce me either! She'd just go ahead and kill me! 

 :humour:  NOT.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: rosborn on May 20, 2017, 03:55:19 AM
You have a very understanding (or intimidated) wife!  I would no longer be married if I did that - and not because she would divorce me either! She'd just go ahead and kill me! 

 :humour:  NOT.

There you go.  Ya gotta sleep sometime.  I'm such a heavy sleeper that my wife of 31 years, this July 12, could easily put a pillow over my face and just quietly send me off to nappy land forever.  Fortunately, she's a benevolent dictator, far better than I deserve and indulges my few hobbies and enjoyments as long as I don't go insanely crazy - meaning as long as I keep it within since our budget.  I couldn't ask for more.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on May 20, 2017, 05:09:47 AM
Thanks for the info. I am really blown away by the looks of that guitar. Fortunately I have a very understanding wife who probably would not bust my chops too badly about it. It's definitely on the radar

It plays and sounds as good as it looks too!

As I reach to open the case and play it before I head to sleep...  :guitar


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Mikeymac on May 20, 2017, 05:20:51 PM
It plays and sounds as good as it looks too!

As I reach to open the case and play it before I head to sleep...  :guitar

Enabler!!!


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: df1k1 on May 27, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
 Thanks for the replies.  After playing a number of Martin's and Taylor's and some other as well I'm pretty set on the Taylor  814CE.  I love the sound from the guitar, the aesthetics and the playability. That's very important to me  But like I mentioned originally I really want to look at a Larrive as I love everything about my OM-03. So which one would be closest to the 814? LV-09?  The 10?  Something else? ( I think deep down I'm hoping someone can convince me to pull the trigger on the LV-10  50th anniversary!)  :bgrin:


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on May 28, 2017, 12:48:32 AM
Taylors are nice. The 814 is especially nice. I would not want one with built in electronics. Built-in obsolescence is not something I want in an acoustic guitar.

That being said, they are everywhere!

Be yourself!  Be unique!  1 of 50!   Get the LV-10 50th Anniversary.  :cheers


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on June 16, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
#1 is "on sale" on Reverb.

https://reverb.com/item/5211135-larrivee-lv-10-50th-anniversary-model-number-1-of-50

Save an additional 15% Father's Day Sale Discount Code: DADSROCK at checkout.

Your price delivered is now $4,779.97 or there about.  :winkin:



Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: rockstar_not on June 17, 2017, 03:00:01 PM
Taylors are nice. The 814 is especially nice. I would not want one with built in electronics. Built-in obsolescence is not something I want in an acoustic guitar.



Mark, help me understand the obsolescence comment.  I have a 414ce that I won in a drawing, and after getting an issue with string spacing resolved at the nut, I'm starting to prefer playing it over my L-03, partially due to the better 'plugged in' sound when playing out, than my L-03 with a mini pure western pup installed. The other reason I'm reaching for this guitar rather than my L-03, is that I'm usually a 2nd acoustic player in the band, when I'm not playing electric, bass or keys; and I will capo high normally between 5th and 7th frets, to have a broader acoustic sound overall with the main acoustic player.  The cutaway makes executing that with some melody stuff a little easier.  Acoustic unamplified sound-wise, it's pretty interesting how close the Taylor sounds to my L-03.  In a double blind recording situation, I'm guessing most couldn't say which was which, nor that there would be a strong preference for either sound.
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This one has the exp 2 system in it, which my understanding is a piezo element, that is mounted NEXT to the saddle, not underneath of the saddle, and there are 3 cams in the tailpiece that can be turned to apply more or less pressure to the piezo element.  There's also a rather large cavity cut into the endpin location to accomodate a 9V battery, that is a unique shape.  I've often wondered if those battery holders, which appear unique to Taylor, will be always available.  Is this the obsolescence you are talking about?  I don't think that if the system goes south it renders the guitar obsolete, but it does have holes in the body that might not be useful any longer (3 holes for the controls, battery holder hole, cam holes in the bridge) that will just be there doing nothing.

I don't think it obsoletes the guitar, but just makes it not as 'pristine'.



Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on June 17, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
Electronics go obsolete. That's a fact of life. How long it takes, varies by device and industry, but they all go obsolete. Especially proprietary electronics. As long as it works, and the manufacturer stands behind it and supports it with parts, updates, and repair availability, it will not be "obsolete". Once they drop support for it, it's done.

I might end up with a Taylor someday. I know they make wonderful guitars and I would be proud to own one. Especially an 8, or 9 series! ;) But, I would not own one with holes cut in it for knobs and batteries. That's just me and my stubborn opinion.

I hear good things about how well the Exp2 system works in a live situation but, again, I don't want holes in any of my guitar for such things. I will probably just go the M80 soundhole pickup route for my acoustics. You don't have to drill or cut anything, and it can be removed without leaving any evidence that it was there. I haven't decided what I am going to do when we start to play live. I think because we are just an acoustic duo, we will just mic the guitars.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: George on June 17, 2017, 08:18:50 PM
Electronics is like everything else on a guitar, mostly a lot of personal preference.  For example, I absolutely despise Takamine electronics even on their pro models.  They always sound harsh to me...


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Mikeymac on June 17, 2017, 10:20:12 PM
Yes, electronics keep "improving" at the pace of many other modern technologies, rendering holes in guitars obsolete and, therefore, ugly reminders of old technology.

I want to try one of these soon - this may be the future of acoustic amplification (as the technology - of course - improves):

iRig Acoustic pickup (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/ik-multimedia-irig-acoustic-stage)



Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: markj on June 17, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
I have an iRig Acoustic. I have tried it a couple of times on an amp and a PA.

Sounds great to my ear. I will probably use it live soon.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: Mikeymac on June 17, 2017, 11:13:14 PM
I have an iRig Acoustic. I have tried it a couple of times on an amp and a PA.

Sounds great to my ear. I will probably use it live soon.

That's good to hear - thanks for the thumbs up review.

I'm thinking about one of these for my Martin D-18, which I don't want to put a pickup in (don't even want to drill out the end pin for a jack on that guitar!). I might also try it on my '92 Larrivee OM-05, because I'd like to finally get rid of the under saddle pup on that guitar and just have the bone saddle directly touching the ebony bridge and top for the best possible acoustic tone...


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: George on June 17, 2017, 11:30:40 PM
I have an Irig Acoustic Stage I am going to sell... tested only, still in the box...


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: tammany on June 20, 2017, 09:45:31 AM
If you have an acoustic that you love and regularly play, my  best advice is to stick with it and double down on playing. I have found that there is an inverse relationship between the number of guitars I own and the enjoyment I derive from them.

I have owned lots of guitars and always end up mostly playing the same one to the exclusion of the others, which soon feels wasteful. Worse, I sometimes fall out of love with the guitar that was my regular and then the whole thing starts all over again. I also find myself wasting time switching from guitar to guitar instead of practicing. I had an exceptional Taylor 614 that I played for ten years as my go-to guitar. I sold it a couple of years ago as part of one of those switches and have regretted it since.

Unless you are dissatisfied with what you have or you have a specific need, I would not confuse things with a second guitar. I know this is going to sound like heresy to many on this forum but it is a point of view you should at least consider. Thoreau exhorted us to, "Simplify, simplify, simplify." If you have GAS, as we all do, add an electric. It's really a different instrument that opens up lots of creative doors.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: ST on June 20, 2017, 07:12:14 PM
Hi tammany,

Great post. I've tried to write something in this thread since it started, but I couldn't find a way to say this as nicely as you did.

ST


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on June 20, 2017, 08:41:49 PM
Hi tammany,

Great post. I've tried to write something in this thread since it started, but I couldn't find a way to say this as nicely as you did.
:+1:


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: tammany on June 20, 2017, 11:29:38 PM
Hi tammany,

Great post. I've tried to write something in this thread since it started, but I couldn't find a way to say this as nicely as you did.

ST

Thank you. Sorry for the typos. I wrote the post on my tablet very early this morning. I appreciate it.


Title: Re: Help me choose guitar to complement my OM – 03
Post by: kwakatak on June 21, 2017, 12:54:49 AM
Thanks for the replies.  After playing a number of Martin's and Taylor's and some other as well I'm pretty set on the Taylor  814CE.  I love the sound from the guitar, the aesthetics and the playability. That's very important to me  But like I mentioned originally I really want to look at a Larrive as I love everything about my OM-03. So which one would be closest to the 814? LV-09?  The 10?  Something else? ( I think deep down I'm hoping someone can convince me to pull the trigger on the LV-10  50th anniversary!)  :bgrin:


I'd look at a Taylor 416-R or a Martin D-35 or OM-21.