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Title: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Mikeymac on March 29, 2017, 03:28:02 PM
Okay, question for you Canadians about the popularity of Canadian artists - at least those from "my era" - hah!

Leaving Neil Young out of the equation - it's pretty obvious he's well known both solo and with CSN&Y...

Is Gordon Lightfoot next in line for popularity as a Canadian rock/pop/folk (however you want to classify him) artist?

Who would be next - Valdy or Bruce Cockburn? I'm thinking mostly in terms of their popularity in Canada - what do YOU folks north of the 49th think? (Didn't mean to leave out our own Kevin/headsup - so correct me if he should be on that list...)

And am I missing someone because I'm just a dumb American?

Thanks - look forward to the opinions, discussion, and maybe the discovery of some new music.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Marauder on March 29, 2017, 06:43:24 PM
The Tragically Hip are a great Canadian band. I listen to them way more than the artists you mention.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Mikeymac on March 29, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
The Tragically Hip are a great Canadian band. I listen to them way more than the artists you mention.

Yeah - I was going back to artists who were popular from the late '60's on through the '70's - I'm less familiar with more recent artists/bands (spent a lot of years focused on grad school, raising kids, work, etc. - kept me from expanding my listening as much as I might have liked).


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Marauder on March 29, 2017, 08:05:09 PM
Then I would have to say from my 57 year old point of view it would have to be  The Guess Who. No rhyme intended :laughin:


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 29, 2017, 08:56:21 PM
Let's not forget Joni Mitchell who is better than all of them. I like Cockburn and Lightfoot, never thought much of most of Valdy's work. I always found him a little too precious for my liking. Play me a damn rock'n'roll song, already. Shoulda stayed home with a case of beer. I am that guy!
For me, I'll take Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, Fred Eaglesmith and the late Willie P. Bennett, The Odds with Craig Northey, Ian Tyson, Corb Lund, David Francey, kd lang and Jeff Healy and a few others that I've forgotten.   :cheers      


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 30, 2017, 12:38:09 AM
All roads lead to Lightfoot; like Dylan everywhere else

Luv Valdy Cockburn Bachman, Cuddy, Keeler, Robertson....... but really can't think of any in the same sentence as Lightfoot


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on March 30, 2017, 02:32:57 AM
Seems to me it started with PP&M
 Then there is The Band
As for NY, I think his best work was in Buffalo Springfield
Neil Young
Stephen Stills
Ritchie Furay
Jim Messina
Dewey Martin

Perhaps the original supergroup.
 


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 30, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
Seems to me it started with PP&M
 Then there is The Band
As for NY, I think his best work was in Buffalo Springfield
Neil Young
Stephen Stills
Ritchie Furay
Jim Messina
Dewey Martin

Perhaps the original supergroup.
 

How could I forget The Band? Robbie Robertson is the best Canadian songwriter .... EVAH. Well, him and Joni.   


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 30, 2017, 04:17:16 PM
All roads lead to Lightfoot; like Dylan everywhere else

Luv Valdy Cockburn Bachman, Cuddy, Keeler, Robertson....... but really can't think of any in the same sentence as Lightfoot

A matter of subjective taste. Last time I saw Gordie, however, I wanted my money back. Come to think of it, the last time I saw Dylan, I felt the same way. For different reasons. 


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on March 30, 2017, 05:22:21 PM
How could I forget The Band? Robbie Robertson is the best Canadian songwriter .... EVAH. Well, him and Joni.  
Oh I dunno .... Neil has a pretty impressive catalogue.  In all honesty, I would put him ahead of Joni too.  MOF, I would list him as the #1 Canadian songwriter.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 30, 2017, 06:21:14 PM
Oh I dunno .... Neil has a pretty impressive catalogue.  In all honesty, I would put him ahead of Joni too.  MOF, I would list him as the #1 Canadian songwriter.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on that. Acadian Driftwood, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, The Weight, Unfaithful Servant .... Neil is one of the greats, no doubt, but besides the journey through into the past, Robertson's last album was terrific as is everything he's done and Young's last several have been anything but. And then there's Trans.  :?


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: webberink on March 30, 2017, 10:24:08 PM
Yep, Gordon Lightfoot for voice and songwriting, Joni Mitchel for creativity, Bruce Cockburn for guitar virtuosity, and so on and so on.  In Canada we have been richly blessed as this thread reveals.  That being said though, for my money, a truly folk troubadour has to have the whole package, voice, virtuosity, vision, and be able to do it all supporting themselves instrumentally.  There are not a lot of people like that. One that comes to mind is Garry Fjellgaard.  This Saskatchewan farm boy, BC logger, multi award winning song writer/performer,  has been doing it all solo for almost as many years as I have been alive, and I am old.  He is a stand up musician/song writer who continues to show up in town with just his OM Martin and his finger style playing and sings the most amazing stories delivered with a wonderfully rich clear voice.  There are not a lot like him.  John McCutcheon in the US is one that comes to mind.  Check him out if you don't know him.
David


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on March 30, 2017, 11:00:46 PM
We're going to have to agree to disagree on that. Acadian Driftwood, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, The Weight, Unfaithful Servant .... Neil is one of the greats, no doubt, but besides the journey through into the past, Robertson's last album was terrific as is everything he's done and Young's last several have been anything but. And then there's Trans.  :?

Actually, Neil's Tran show was really good. 


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 31, 2017, 12:30:15 AM
Actually, Neil's Tran show was really good. 

Well, we're really going to have to agree to disagree on that one. I'm a pretty huge Neil Young fan, however, unlike Dylan there is a lot of stuff I just don't like all that much. I have all his albums up to and including Le Noise which left me flat and made me decide it was the last NY album I'd buy sight unseen sound unheard. Haven't really cared for much of his stuff after Harvest Moon and almost none of the things he's done this century other than Prairie Wind although I liked a lot of Psychedelic Pill. I generally prefer his work with Crazy Horse.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on March 31, 2017, 02:19:34 AM
See, after blood on the tracks, Dylan has left me bored.  So, we will have to agree to disagree.  Maybe that was the genius of the Beatles ...... they quit at the right time. We all thought it was too soon, but, well, look at the Stones.  Total embarrassment.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 31, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
A matter of subjective taste. 
Pretty much sums it when you get down to the nitty gritty


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 31, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
See, after blood on the tracks, Dylan has left me bored.  So, we will have to agree to disagree.  Maybe that was the genius of the Beatles ...... they quit at the right time. We all thought it was too soon, but, well, look at the Stones.  Total embarrassment.

I think the trio of albums Dylan made in the late 90's, early oughts, matches some of his best work. Especially Love and Theft. And call me crazy but I dig this Sinatra-ish thing he's doing now. His new CD, Triplicate, should be at the door today according to Amazon Prime. Tea comes in many flavors, I guess.     


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on March 31, 2017, 12:48:08 PM
I think the trio of albums Dylan made in the late 90's, early oughts, matches some of his best work. Especially Love and Theft. And call me crazy but I dig this Sinatra-ish thing he's doing now. His new CD, Triplicate, should be at the door today according to Amazon Prime. Tea comes in many flavors, I guess.     

Well, the Beatles Anthology, released after their breakup, are great, but I don't consider them as being contemporary Beatles music.  Anyhow, you like Dylan, and I suspect that you always will.  It is just a matter of preferenc.


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on March 31, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Well, the Beatles Anthology, released after their breakup, are great, but I don't consider them as being contemporary Beatles music.  Anyhow, you like Dylan, and I suspect that you always will.  It is just a matter of preferenc.

Exactly. To me, however, The Beatles and Dylan travel(ed) in a sphere all their own.   


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: webberink on March 31, 2017, 09:40:43 PM
This posting started out with: "Okay, question for you Canadians about the popularity of Canadian artists - at least those from "my era"
Never knew that Dylan and the Beatles were Canadians, although like everybody else they probably wannabe as Canada tends to be the seat of all true talent.  At any rate cool thread.  :beer
Dave


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Mikeymac on March 31, 2017, 11:11:21 PM
Yes... getting back to CANADIANS...

...I'm kinda surprised Jack Semple hasn't been mentioned yet, however, I suppose he hasn't had any radio hits (has he?), but what a great singer, player!

Rainy Night In Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGOG9vUSDMQ)

 :bowdown:


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: George on March 31, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
Yes... getting back to CANADIANS...

...I'm kinda surprised Jack Semple hasn't been mentioned yet, however, I suppose he hasn't had any radio hits (has he?), but what a great singer, player!

Rainy Night In Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGOG9vUSDMQ)

 :bowdown:

He is absolutely killer!  Never heard him before...   :bowdown:


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on April 01, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
This posting started out with: "Okay, question for you Canadians about the popularity of Canadian artists - at least those from "my era"
Never knew that Dylan and the Beatles were Canadians, although like everybody else they probably wannabe as Canada tends to be the seat of all true talent.  At any rate cool thread.  :beer
Dave

Golly pardon us for gallivanting.   :rolleye:


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Walkerman on April 01, 2017, 04:31:40 PM
Well, we're really going to have to agree to disagree on that one. I'm a pretty huge Neil Young fan, however, unlike Dylan there is a lot of stuff I just don't like all that much. I have all his albums up to and including Le Noise which left me flat and made me decide it was the last NY album I'd buy sight unseen sound unheard. Haven't really cared for much of his stuff after Harvest Moon and almost none of the things he's done this century other than Prairie Wind although I liked a lot of Psychedelic Pill. I generally prefer his work with Crazy Horse.

Do you also have the so called "missing albums?"  Stars and Bars, Hawks and Doves, ReAcTor, On The Beach and Chrome Dreams .....


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Mikeymac on April 01, 2017, 10:02:32 PM
He is absolutely killer!  Never heard him before...   :bowdown:

Yeah - isn't he a revelation? And he's getting that killer tone through a Roland multi-effects pedal (a V-55 or something like that?) and a Peavey Bandit SS amp! Just amazing. Shows how much tone is in the fingers (and the head and heart)!


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on April 01, 2017, 11:30:41 PM
Do you also have the so called "missing albums?"  Stars and Bars, Hawks and Doves, ReAcTor, On The Beach and Chrome Dreams .....

The first three on vinyl, On the Beach and Chrome Dreams on CD. I even have Time Fades Away. I was a completist at one time.   :arrow


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on April 01, 2017, 11:33:04 PM
Yeah - isn't he a revelation? And he's getting that killer tone through a Roland multi-effects pedal (a V-55 or something like that?) and a Peavey Bandit SS amp! Just amazing. Shows how much tone is in the fingers (and the head and heart)!

Sure but why not Rainy Night in Saskatchewan? That's where he's from.   :arrow

If we're leaning towards regional celebrities, here's my friend  Rodney Brown. Thunder Bay's own folk star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYeZW_gHFf0

http://www.rodneybrown.ca/north-land


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: Denis on April 03, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
How about this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0CvSIhF_tA


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: ducktrapper on April 03, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
How about this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0CvSIhF_tA


Face palm! How could I forget Stan Rogers? Tremendous talent gone too soon. 


Title: Re: Gordon Lightfoot, Valdy and Bruce Cockburn - Or...
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on April 08, 2017, 07:08:03 AM
Hank Snow?  Paul Anka? :whistling: