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Title: Abalone Poaching
Post by: markj on February 15, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
And they throw away the shells???  :angry: :mad: :crying:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/02/wildlife-watch-abalone-poaching-south-africa/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=link_fb20170214news-abalonepoaching&utm_campaign=Content&sf56156553=1

I  have never consumed Abalone. Not that I plan on doing so, but has anyone here consumed Abalone? What does it taste like?  Chicken?   :roll


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: carruth on February 15, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
In New Zealand we call it Paua, and our variety is more colourful than the USA Abalone. We have excess of the shells. Perhaps Jean Larrivee needs to check this out. The NZ paua is quite special. The Paua meat is delicious. It has it's own taste. I like it in fritters.


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: Paraclete on February 16, 2017, 02:39:15 AM
I had it once in Hawaii.  It's good...kind of like clams, only sweeter.  Of course, one can always go to Michaels craft stores and buy abalone shells for crafting purposes.....


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: markj on February 16, 2017, 03:40:52 AM
Is it a CITES issue because of the poaching?


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: eded on February 16, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
Is it a CITES issue because of the poaching?

Endangered species...  overfishing and pollution got it to the ESA (Endangered Species Act), and poaching (most likely) got it to the CITES list.

Ed


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: tlp2 on February 16, 2017, 01:44:03 PM
I fished for abalone (free diving) in CA with my brother
but we got skunked.  Had fun in the cold kelp-y water though.
Ate some that others had caught.
It's good, mollusk-y and chewy,
but nothing I couldn't live without.

Abalone overfishing is a serious problem because of their low reproductive success rate;
ie, it takes a large population of abalone to maintain their population.
That equals a low take rate so it's easy to exceed.
I don't doubt that coastal water warming may also be a challenge for the CA population.



Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: eded on February 16, 2017, 02:42:58 PM
I fished for abalone (free diving) in CA with my brother
but we got skunked.  Had fun in the cold kelp-y water though.
Ate some that others had caught.
It's good, mollusk-y and chewy,
but nothing I couldn't live without.

Abalone overfishing is a serious problem because of their low reproductive success rate;
ie, it takes a large population of abalone to maintain their population.
That equals a low take rate so it's easy to exceed.
I don't doubt that coastal water warming may also be a challenge for the CA population.



And what the Fukushima power plant leaks will do remains to be seen.  The whole Pacific is affected with higher than normal radiation.  How individual species will react is anyones guess...

Ed


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: tlp2 on February 16, 2017, 06:31:03 PM
^True, but put Fukushima into perspective.
Fukushima released less radiation than Chernobyl.
Chernobyl released much much less than the Hiroshima bomb.
Between 1946 and 1962, the US conducted 105 atmospheric and underwater nuclear weapon tests at the Pacific Proving Grounds,
each much larger than Hiroshima.

This comparison is intentionally oversimplified, mea culpa,
but wanted to give some scale of reference.
Also, not saying good or bad, just relative. 

Whew.  How did we get from abalone diving to this? 
 :tongue:


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: eded on February 16, 2017, 07:41:33 PM
^True, but put Fukushima into perspective.
Fukushima released less radiation than Chernobyl.
Chernobyl released much much less than the Hiroshima bomb.
Between 1946 and 1962, the US conducted 105 atmospheric and underwater nuclear weapon tests at the Pacific Proving Grounds,
each much larger than Hiroshima.

This comparison is intentionally oversimplified, mea culpa,
but wanted to give some scale of reference.
Also, not saying good or bad, just relative. 

Yeah, the initial output was less, but it's still leaking.

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Whew.  How did we get from abalone diving to this? 
 :tongue:

Why abalone, and more generally all sorts of natural materials, are being banned from trade.

Ed


Title: Re: Abalone Poaching
Post by: Walkerman on February 16, 2017, 10:49:13 PM
When I was young and growing up in SoCal, nobody ate abalone, but everyone had abalone shell ashtrays.


Title: Re:
Post by: Hooked on February 17, 2017, 12:37:06 AM
In Florida it's conch fritters,  I'll pass

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