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Title: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on September 28, 2016, 01:59:25 PM
I did this back in the day when the "Orsino" method was in vogue and nobody realized Scratch-X had silicone in it - it worked great, of course, but we won't be doing that now!!
So, what is the "flavor of the month" for compounds to polish out after the 0000 steel wool?   I have Meguiars Deep Crystal polish #2 that I've been using to buff out scratches in gloss finish, but the bottle is getting low and wondering if there's something out there now that is preferred.   I have an L-03 Blackwood coming today that may get the treatment.....looks like there's some nice flame hiding under there :thumb

(http://i64.tinypic.com/rmqtc8.jpg)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: B0WIE on September 28, 2016, 05:03:17 PM
Use automotive wet/dry sandpaper with the appropriate blocks. Far more efficient than any of the other methods and cuts a more even surface as well.  You can get it as glossy as you want. Finish with a polish. I found Meguiar's Plastic X to actually be the best for getting gloss on a Larrivee UV cured finish.
I know I've gone into detail about the process on here a few times so searching the forum should provide more details if you're interested.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: nctom on September 28, 2016, 05:07:57 PM
I have been using Virtuoso cleaner and polish for the last couple of guitars. I prefer to polish to a soft gloss that enhances the grain and color rather than a high gloss. Just apply a couple of coats each with soft cloth and it's done. No silicone that I'm aware of, but it seems that there is always something hiding in the fine print.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: B0WIE on September 28, 2016, 05:37:08 PM
I have been using Virtuoso cleaner and polish for the last couple of guitars. I prefer to polish to a soft gloss that enhances the grain and color rather than a high gloss. Just apply a couple of coats each with soft cloth and it's done. No silicone that I'm aware of, but it seems that there is always something hiding in the fine print.
He's speaking of polishing a satin finish to a gloss,  not actual cleaning. When one cuts through the surface texture on a Larrivee 03 model,  they can have a deep, glossy shine.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on September 28, 2016, 10:23:50 PM
Thanks for the tips - I found a lot more flame than I was expecting.  I actually just did a quick run over with 0000 wool to get some of the "swoosh" out and it looks like this already!  
Unfortunately this one has major issues with unseated frets and is going to have to go back (the store said their tech would fix it and send it back)  Not sure if I should trust their "tech" or not..... :?   I'd rather have my guy at Elderly do it!

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2ign813.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/sflc7m.jpg)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: B0WIE on September 29, 2016, 03:55:55 AM
That back and (especially) side wood is gorgeous!  Absolute shame to have it hiding under stain fog.  There's nothing like a shiny, stripey side wood.
I hope the fret situation gets sorted out quick.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on September 29, 2016, 05:10:33 PM
another run of 0000 and about 40 minutes of aerobic polishing this morning and there's quite a difference already.....just used what I had here for now.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/dng582.jpg)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: strangeman on September 30, 2016, 01:53:41 AM
You got yourself a nice set of wood there. Congrats! Very beautiful.

I would second taking the guitar to a trusted luthier for the fret fix. You want that job done right.  :thumbsup


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: George on September 30, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
This one looks like a Keeper Todd! (when you get the frets fixed)  Looks almost like flamed koa...


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on September 30, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
This one looks like a Keeper Todd!
LOL If Todd kept all the keepers that passed through his hands - I think he would need a stadium sized storage facility!  :smile: 


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: strangeman on September 30, 2016, 03:12:01 PM
LOL If Todd kept all the keepers that passed through his hands - I think he would need a stadium sized storage facility!  :smile: 

The windds of GAS blow in mysterious ways.  :wink:


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on September 30, 2016, 09:01:20 PM
The windds of GAS blow in mysterious ways.  :wink:

Isn't that the truth - I dropped it at Elderly today - so it should be "right" soon. Also buffed out the sides some before I took it in.   


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: ffinke on October 01, 2016, 03:32:31 AM
This one looks like a Keeper Todd! (when you get the frets fixed)  Looks almost like flamed koa...

 :roll I give it 2 months... TOPS!


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 01, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
:roll I give it 2 months... TOPS!

That long??? :ohmy:


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 06, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
picked this up from Elderly today - did some polishing of the top and tweaked the action at the nut a bit.    Have a bone saddle coming and I'll probably "port" it this weekend.  Going to get this one good and "hopped up".   Sounds fantastic right now, but by the time I'm done it's going to be a Hot Rod!! :guitar


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: George on October 06, 2016, 11:57:20 PM
Make us one of your recordings when you are done.  Maybe we can convince you it is a keeper...  I know if it was mine...  Just Sayin'...


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 07, 2016, 12:25:29 AM
Make us one of your recordings when you are done.  Maybe we can convince you it is a keeper...  I know if it was mine...  Just Sayin'...


Will do - just got to get the setup tweaked with the new saddle (probably over the weekend.)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 08, 2016, 07:07:37 PM
Ported and a little more polishing - VERY happy with the results on this one.  I slowly widened the ports until I thought it was about as good as it could get.   As I've done more of these, I'm surprised by how small they can be and have a HUGE effect.   The upper bout port is about 5/8 and the lower bout is 1/2.  Louder, warmer, fatter trebles and more sustain.   I just spent about a half hour A/B ing it with the ports plugged and I just keep shaking my head!!

The back and sides are almost done with the polish - the top still has some to go - just did a couple treatments.   Next string change I'll finish the top and the headstock overlay, fit the bone saddle and get the setup dialed in (it's actually a bit low right now on the treble side and I'm getting some minor dampening)   and then I'll get to putting a song or two up with it.

The perma smile has returned......I love this one!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/a8myp.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2ily9o3.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/nec3kl.jpg)



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: Danny on October 08, 2016, 07:35:39 PM
 :nice guitar: So here I was looking at my 1940s vintage carpenters work bench. I began thinking it was time to get back to repairing, rebuilding and refinishing some of the seven or so guitars I've got waiting in their cases  (or shipping boxes)  for more TLC.
     A lot has transpired this year causing the delay.  But then I check in on the forum,  and here is your beautiful pix of recent mods to a fine guitar.
     I've got to get things set up again,  since my move this summer,  but your post definitely is an inspiration.

     I think we, and  others on the forum have a need to make guitars better.  It's like G.A.S. but from another slice of the guitar enthusiast embedded in our make up.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 08, 2016, 08:14:22 PM

     I think we, and  others on the forum have a need to make guitars better.  It's like G.A.S. but from another slice of the guitar enthusiast embedded in our make up.

No doubt about it - I love trying to get as much as I can out of an instrument.  Even the ones that go "down the road" - it makes me feel great when the new owner gets it and gushes over it. :thumb

Now get your tools out and get going :roll :roll


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: Danny on October 08, 2016, 08:22:03 PM
 Part of what got me on this track was discovering a plastic container full of wood treatments, oils, polishes, finish etc.
 I have not even unpacked all my containers yet.
          But I'll get with it :thumbsup


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: George on October 08, 2016, 08:22:20 PM
 :+1:     :bgrin:


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 13, 2016, 12:15:09 PM
As requested - here's a 7am first take with the Blackwood.  This is with capo at 2, so you can image the power this one has when it's not!
Hadn't played this one in a good, long while....

https://app.box.com/s/2hjtftonk80wgej6xngomxmo6cr6ujuo


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: Danny on October 13, 2016, 04:12:21 PM
    It sounds pretty good, and the song you chose is real nice. (you just need to work on your southern accent a little :winkin:)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 13, 2016, 07:08:31 PM
    It sounds pretty good, and the song you chose is real nice. (you just need to work on your southern accent a little :winkin:)

Yes - 54 years in Michigan doesn't do much for vocal inflection...... :roll


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: George on October 13, 2016, 07:46:10 PM
As requested - here's a 7am first take with the Blackwood.  This is with capo at 2, so you can image the power this one has when it's not!
Hadn't played this one in a good, long while....

https://app.box.com/s/2hjtftonk80wgej6xngomxmo6cr6ujuo

Awesome sounding guitar and vocal Todd!  Impressive capoed...  How did the saddle intonation go?


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 13, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
Awesome sounding guitar and vocal Todd!  Impressive capoed...  How did the saddle intonation go?


Thanks for listening - the intonation was pretty easy and it's 95% of the way there - next string change I'll dial it and drop the action just a smidge more.
I also have a set of ebony and abalone bridge pins to replace those nasty plastic ones!  I'll give the top another couple polish treatments too - back and sides are great already.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: ryler on October 15, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
That sounded great.  And it is a beautiful guitar. 


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 15, 2016, 11:08:53 PM
That sounded great.  And it is a beautiful guitar. 

Thanks for listening Ryler - really enjoying this one!!


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: dbirchett on October 17, 2016, 05:44:19 AM
You want some extra holes, err ports, in your Larrivee?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/dbirchett/Larrivee/D-09swisscheese.jpg)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 17, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
Whoa - where did you find that one??? :ohmy:


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 17, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
Looks great!

Question about my 2016 OM-40 Satin guitar.
It's only a few months old.

Should I wait a certain amount of time (months) before I polish it out?
Thought I read somewhere here that the newer finish needs to fully cure?

Would love to get the guitar's finish smoother!


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 17, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
Looks great!

Question about my 2016 OM-40 Satin guitar.
It's only a few months old.

Should I wait a certain amount of time (months) before I polish it out?
Thought I read somewhere here that the newer finish needs to fully cure?

Would love to get the guitar's finish smoother!

I would ask the folks at Larrivee to be sure - I'm far from a finish expert!  This one was over 10 years old I believe


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 17, 2016, 02:15:56 PM
Ok thanks!


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: dbirchett on October 17, 2016, 04:07:10 PM
Fitness, I saved the picture from an eBay auction.

Jake, when I polished mine, I did it soon after I got them. Didn't seem to make much difference. Like Fitness, I didn't go for a high gloss finish, just enough so smooth things over so that there wasn't the surface noise from playing it. I really liked the way they turned out. I have done three but these were the first two. The LV-03 is Blackwood, like Fitness's. The OM is Koa, Blackwood's cousin.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/dbirchett/My%20Guitars/Larrivees/DCP_0775.jpg)

I have posted this picture before. My apologies to any that are tired of seeing it.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: dbirchett on October 17, 2016, 05:48:09 PM
This is how my mahogany 12 string turned out:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/dbirchett/My%20Guitars/Larrivees/LV-03-12/DSC_1066.jpg)

One of the biggest things that you notice in buffing out the matte finish is the depth of the wood. It gives an almost 3D effect.

I did all of these back in the 2005-2006 era when all of us were following the lead of Orsino and polishing our -03s. I used the Meguiar's 3 step process that everyone said didn't contain silicones until we realized that they did. I would be afraid of using the sandpaper or steel wool that many have used since and would probably use Virtuoso polish iof I was going to do one today.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 17, 2016, 06:25:10 PM
Thanks..

Wow they look great !
I have a bottle of Virtuoso on hand already.

My main reason is the "scratchy noise" factor.
Drives me nuts! When recording with headphones.



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 17, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
I would ask the folks at Larrivee to be sure - I'm far from a finish expert!  This one was over 10 years old I believe

I did send an email to Larrivee support...
They replied and pointed me straight back to the forum!

Anyone want to advise me...
On a newer Larrivee OM-40 guitar, how long would you suggest I wait, before performing a de-satin-ization (polish method).
In regards to the original finish curing all the way, Or does it not matter time wise?



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: dbirchett on October 17, 2016, 09:35:31 PM
I did send an email to Larrivee support...
They replied and pointed me straight back to the forum!

Anyone want to advise me...
On a newer Larrivee OM-40 guitar, how long would you suggest I wait, before performing a de-satin-ization (polish method).
In regards to the original finish curing all the way, Or does it not matter time wise?



I don't think it matters. I did the top two (the blackwood and koa) almost as soon as I got them. If you want to date that, I did the blackwood while watching the report on Hurricane Katrina. The mahogany was already a year or two old when I got in in 2006 and I did it shortly after I got it. Didn't seem to make much difference one way or another.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 21, 2016, 03:01:42 PM
So what is the "best" method to go about this?

Simply use some 0000 Steel wool or go the Polish and "Elbow grease" method?
Also what product to use if going polish?

I am recording with the OM40 and the noise when my hand or arm touches the finish is driving me nuts.





Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: fitness1 on October 21, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
When I took this in to have the frets reworked, my tech of nearly 20 years mentioned micro mesh polishing pads to me.  They go from about 1000 to 12000 grit and according to him if you start with a 6000 and finish with 12000 you don't even have to buff out.   I would certainly get a second opinion on this before I'd move forward.....he's extremely knowledgeable, but don't take my word for it - hate to see you mess up you finish based on the limited info (may be some "tricks" to make it work best)


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: rbpicker on October 21, 2016, 05:22:17 PM
Jake, I polished my OM40 within a couple weeks of ownership. This is one that I sent you pictures of.  I used wet micro mesh pads, 0000 steel wool and Mcquires Polish.  The trick is to go deep enough into the finish to remove all of the swirls left by the factory orbital sander. They don't show through a matte finish, but sure show up as you are trying to achieve a gloss finish, so you need to get rid of them (without going TOO deep).

Rb


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 21, 2016, 06:53:18 PM
Jake, I polished my OM40 within a couple weeks of ownership. This is one that I sent you pictures of.  I used wet micro mesh pads, 0000 steel wool and Mcquires Polish.  The trick is to go deep enough into the finish to remove all of the swirls left by the factory orbital sander. They don't show through a matte finish, but sure show up as you are trying to achieve a gloss finish, so you need to get rid of them (without going TOO deep).

Rb

Thanks ! Yes I appreciate the photos and found the micro mesh pads at Stew Mac
http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Sanding/Micro-Mesh_Soft_Touch_Pads/Reviews/Page6.html#reviews



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 28, 2016, 01:15:41 AM

So, what is the "flavor of the month" for compounds to polish out after the 0000 steel wool?   I have Meguiars Deep Crystal polish #2 that I've been using to buff out scratches in gloss finish, but the bottle is getting low and wondering if there's something out there now that is preferred.   I have an L-03 Blackwood coming today that may get the treatment.....looks like there's some nice flame hiding under there :thumb

I am going to attempt to polish out my OM40 this weekend.

STEP 1)
Wet sand with 1500 or 2000 paper instead of steal wool.

STEP 2)
Meguiar's 2 Mirror Glaze Fine-Cut Cleaner

STEP 3)
Meguiar's 7 Mirror Glaze Show Car Glaze








Title: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: Mr_LV19E on October 28, 2016, 03:33:33 PM
I am going to attempt to polish out my OM40 this weekend.

STEP 1)
Wet sand with 1500 or 2000 paper instead of steal wool.

STEP 2)
Meguiar's 2 Mirror Glaze Fine-Cut Cleaner

STEP 3)
Meguiar's 7 Mirror Glaze Show Car Glaze
Make sure you use a sanding pad of some sort not just the paper and I would recommend Meguires #3 for your step 3 instead of the #7 glaze. You should be able to find the #3 at a auto parts store.

Make sure you cover your sound hole so you don't drip any water in there.
Also tape off your bridge, neck to body joint and fingerboard extension.
 


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Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 28, 2016, 03:48:55 PM
Make sure you use a sanding pad of some sort not just the paper and I would recommend Meguires #3 for your step 3 instead of the #7 glaze. You should be able to find the #3 at a auto parts store.

Make sure you cover your sound hole so you don't drip any water in there.
Also tape off your bridge, neck to body joint and fingerboard extension.

Thanks for the tips Mr LV19.

I have a small sanding block about 2"x2",
I was wondering how to properly get the sides /curves?
Or do I do those by hand?


I will check if the #3 is avail. Is it gentler than #7?

Lastly, when appying the polish and compounds... It is suggested to use a Sponge Pad attached to hand drill?
Or just doing by hand an "elbow grease" method?


- Jake


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: George on October 28, 2016, 06:37:39 PM
I would never use a power tool to polish a guitar.  I always do them by hand, you need to "see" what is happening up close.  I start with 4000 Micro Mesh pads and work up to 12000.  Any grit less than that may scratch the wood.  Work small sections instead of entire surfaces.  I use a two stage liquid compound for finishing above that.  Please take your time and you will be pleased with the results.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 28, 2016, 09:18:11 PM
I would never use a power tool to polish a guitar.  I always do them by hand, you need to "see" what is happening up close.  I start with 4000 Micro Mesh pads and work up to 12000.  Any grit less than that may scratch the wood.  Work small sections instead of entire surfaces.  I use a two stage liquid compound for finishing above that.  Please take your time and you will be pleased with the results.

Thanks for clarification on the power tool.



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on October 29, 2016, 07:31:17 AM
Thanks for the tips Mr LV19.

I have a small sanding block about 2"x2",
I was wondering how to properly get the sides /curves?
Or do I do those by hand?


I will check if the #3 is avail. Is it gentler than #7?

Lastly, when appying the polish and compounds... It is suggested to use a Sponge Pad attached to hand drill?
Or just doing by hand an "elbow grease" method?

- Jake

Make your own custom sanding blocks in any shape that makes it easy to fit and sand/polish whatever curve or tight spot you have to polish.  Buy the thickest sheet of dense foam pink insulation you can find and cut the blocks from it with an exacto knife.  Attach wet/dry sand paper to your Styrofoam "sanding blocks" with double-sided tape.  One sheet of this Styrofoam will last you a lifetime.

By the way, the micro-mesh grit size designations are not equivalent or directly comparable to the "P" grit designations often used for most sandpapers and abrasives.  For example, the micro-mesh grit designated "3200" (yellow) is approximately equivalent or slightly finer than P2500 sandpaper.  The micro-mesh designation of "1500" (rust color) is approximately equal to P600 sandpaper.  You wouldn't want to sand/polish to a P1000 wet/dry 3M sandpaper stage then follow up with a micro-mesh "1500" pad for example.  If you did, you would be regressing your polishing to a duller stage than you had already achieved.  Just something to be aware of.   I have attached a chart that I got from the Micro-Mesh website that clearly shows these relationships.

Click on the chart to make it big enough to read.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: jpmist on October 29, 2016, 02:50:50 PM
Great stuff L07. I'd run across the chart before, but it was good to have a refresher of how much those dang numbers shift from one sanding medium to another. The sanding pad idea is a great suggestion.

I'm strongly tempted to have at my satin OOV-03 but frankly I don't really have to have a perfectly flat shiny finish. After two years of use I see there are some areas where the surface has been burnished to a high sheen which makes the color deeper. That's what I'd like to see since it's the satin haze that's always bothered me about it.

Guessing that the polishing pastes alone would do that without the sanding pads or fine steel wool?


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 29, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
I'm strongly tempted to have at my satin OOV-03 but frankly I don't really have to have a perfectly flat shiny finish. After two years of use I see there are some areas where the surface has been burnished to a high sheen which makes the color deeper. That's what I'd like to see since it's the satin haze that's always bothered me about it.

Guessing that the polishing pastes alone would do that without the sanding pads or fine steel wool?

Ya.. I wonder the same thing. The Satin finish is very smooth on my OM40.
But I do feel a little abrasiveness.

Thinking of very lightly wet sanding with 1500 or 2000 grit.

Just to totally smooth it out.

Then polish.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 29, 2016, 09:47:41 PM
Jake here - In Middle of my OM-40 make over.

The 1500 Grit Wet Paper worked great!
Worked on back for about 1 hour... Lightly wet sanding.
No pressure just letting the block do the work.
It is now "smooth as a baby's butt"!

After Wet Sanding - Before Polishing

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/jakestone111/larr_1_zpsywt4ztsx.jpg~original)







Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: B0WIE on October 30, 2016, 07:37:30 AM
If you're going to polish by hand, save yourself a lot of work and go with finer grade papers first. I go up to 2500 grit, which gives a soft gloss. Then, it doesn't require nearly as much work in the polish stage and you're far less likely to see fine scratches from sanding.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on October 30, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
Thanks Bowie - I just did the 1500 wet.
Then I used Virtuoso polish.
Took a little work for sure...

The newly buffed/polished Guitar looks and feels amazing !

No more "shushing" and "swishing" sound .. yay!

Came out amazing!

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/jakestone111/om40gloss_2_zpsvxt42l8k.jpg~original)

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/jakestone111/om40_final_glss_9_zpsxlvbigbp.jpg)



Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on November 01, 2016, 02:21:11 AM
If you're going to polish by hand, save yourself a lot of work and go with finer grade papers first. I go up to 2500 grit, which gives a soft gloss. Then, it doesn't require nearly as much work in the polish stage and you're far less likely to see fine scratches from sanding.

I second that.  I use the same procedure and it works great.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: Danny on November 01, 2016, 03:19:29 AM
I only have one question. With the new thinner Larrivee finish, do you think what finish is left now will protect the wood?


   I don't.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on November 01, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
I only have one question. With the new thinner Larrivee finish, do you think what finish is left now will protect the wood?


   I don't.

Really?
With all do respect... I think I'm good.

With the procedure I performed? It was so slight and there is no possible way that the wood is not protected.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on November 03, 2016, 05:55:07 AM
If the wet sanding and follow up polishing is all done by hand, I think the chance of going too deep is pretty slim.  However, if polishing/buffing under power, beware!  Burning right through the finish is a possibility.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: JakeStone on November 03, 2016, 09:00:10 PM
If the wet sanding and follow up polishing is all done by hand, I think the chance of going too deep is pretty slim.  However, if polishing/buffing under power, beware!  Burning right through the finish is a possibility.

Yep... Just a light "shave" to rid the roughness.


Title: Re: Polishing out satin to semi gloss....
Post by: dbirchett on November 07, 2016, 09:21:42 PM
Nice job, Jake!  :nice guitar:

Polishing them seems to give a 3D depth to them.