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Title: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 23, 2012, 04:21:13 PM
Not to be overly negative but these new Callahan saddles really s**k,sorry Larrivee.I just installed them on 2 tele's and have broken 3 strings on each guitar,not just once but 3 time's and different strings.I'm not talking about just the plain strings.With the break angle from the strings thru to the saddle the saddle edge is way to sharp and should be slightley rounded over.Once I got the OK to do so I don't have a problem any more.Anyone with a Bakersfield have this problem.Oh ya and they don't seem to intonate any better the the old style brass barral style saddle's.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: dr.underhill on August 23, 2012, 05:37:07 PM
Not to be overly negative but these new Callahan saddles really s**k,sorry Larrivee.I just installed them on 2 tele's and have broken 3 strings on each guitar,not just once but 3 time's and different strings.I'm not talking about just the plain strings.With the break angle from the strings thru to the saddle the saddle edge is way to sharp and should be slightley rounded over.Once I got the OK to do so I don't have a problem any more.Anyone with a Bakersfield have this problem.Oh ya and they don't seem to intonate any better the the old style brass barral style saddle's.

ahhh progress. don't you just love it.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: Strings4Him on August 23, 2012, 09:37:52 PM
Rob are you talking about the Callaham saddles on the Bakersfield or the Callaham saddle on other Tele's?  I am not a guitar tech (not even close  :winkin:).  Like you, I would be curious to hear back from some Bakersfield owners.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: Mikeymac on August 23, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
I don't usually have a problem with breaking strings on any of my guitars...

...and I haven't broken any on the Bakersfield.

 :coffee :donut :coffee :donut2


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2012, 11:16:22 PM
 I've installed Joe Barden replacement Bridges/Saddles on all but one of my Telecasters, never had a problem!! Love em'.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: teacycle on August 23, 2012, 11:54:58 PM
No problems yet.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: randmag on August 24, 2012, 12:11:04 AM
I have a Bakersfield and I haven't had any problems with string breakage either. I took a closer look at the saddle and did notice that the holes aren't rounded over so I'll try and remember that if I do break a string.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 24, 2012, 02:43:05 PM
Cool maybe its the set my customer got.Still for the money its a give or take at getting an even intonation.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 24, 2012, 06:21:54 PM
OK its seems that these saddle's were some sort of knock-off by some one trying to cash in on the fade.So since they weren't real Callaham saddle's I wish to apoligize to all that may have been offended with my statement.Sorry gang. :blush:


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Strings4Him on August 24, 2012, 09:41:37 PM
None taken  :winkin:.  Glad the real situation came to light.  I would hate to think the Bakersfield's image would be marred  :crying:  Thanks for closing the loop Rob.  It shows you're a person of integrity  :+1:


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: LeftyBlake on August 25, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
I was just about to say "I think this is the only negative comment I have ever heard on Callaham" then I saw your last post. Callaham's stuff really is top notch, IMO.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 25, 2012, 08:45:19 PM
When I had a client show up with real one's I noticed that his are rounded over and the one's that caused me to hate them were not,they had sharp edge's.I still don't like the idea that a premade duel saddle can intonate correctly.I mean someone that has an ear that can hear the slightest of offness in intonation shouldn't be using these.There is just no way to make a saddle with pre determined points for intonation to work on every guitar.For this you have to have seperate saddle's for each sting and on acoustics its even harder.I do remember a saddle called a grandaddy for acoustic with adjustable saddles for each string and I think at some point Gibson had tune-a-matics on there acoustics as well as some 70's era japanesse.So for me I'll stick with the old style tele saddle's and be happy.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Matthew Larrivee on August 29, 2012, 11:39:26 PM
I have to say that with the callaham saddles on the bakersfield you can get the intonation better that virtually every tele i've come across that uses three barrel saddles. What I most like about the bridge is its mass. It's a little thicker than vintage and at first I was a little un-sure about going "against-vintage" but I quickly came acround. WAAAY better than my 1953 original.

PS: tele neck covers came in today.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 30, 2012, 03:10:50 AM
I have to say that with the callaham saddles on the bakersfield you can get the intonation better that virtually every tele i've come across that uses three barrel saddles. What I most like about the bridge is its mass. It's a little thicker than vintage and at first I was a little un-sure about going "against-vintage" but I quickly came acround. WAAAY better than my 1953 original.

PS: tele neck covers came in today.

I don't mind the thicker bridge on the 2 Bakersfields that I have played I was really over joyed with the solidness of the guitar.I'm not a big stick in the mud when it come's to being vintage.It may just be all the years of playing and intonating the simple barral type saddle's.But when a client with picky ears come's in with these comp. saddle's and then say that the intonation will be right on and there not,then I bring out my personal guitars and they find that there about the same what can I do.Like I said its just my opinion and everyone has one.Matthew let me know when your sending the neck pickup I can't wait.The Matthew Esquire is going to be use this Sunday at a gig by a friend and one of my jazz clients wants to borrow it for a couple of up coming gigs so I can again say without a doubt that the bridge pu is a hit.Balanve volumn from E-E,great note seoeration and a wide range tone monster.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Mikeymac on August 30, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
PS: tele neck covers came in today.

 :+1:



Title: Re: Re: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Strings4Him on August 30, 2012, 02:57:29 PM
:+1:

I think this now means ALL pickups on the Bakersfield are now made in-house by Larrivee instead of the Seymour Duncan pups.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 30, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
 :nanadance :nanadance :nanadance


Title: Re: Re: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Mikeymac on August 30, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
I think this now means ALL pickups on the Bakersfield are now made in-house by Larrivee instead of the Seymour Duncan pups.

Yup. My Bakersfield is at Oxnard right now getting Larrivee bridge and mini-humbucker pups installed...looking forward to getting that guitar back - I've been missing it!

 :+1:


Title: Re: Re: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: bacchus on August 30, 2012, 08:38:44 PM
Yup. My Bakersfield is at Oxnard right now getting Larrivee bridge and mini-humbucker pups installed...looking forward to getting that guitar back - I've been missing it!

 :+1:

Sweet, let us know how you like those.


Title: Re: Re: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on August 30, 2012, 08:41:06 PM
Sweet, let us know how you like those.
  :+1: Me with 3 Bakersfields and none with the new Larrivee PUPS  :mad:


Title: Re: Re: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Mikeymac on August 31, 2012, 04:31:40 AM
  :+1: Me with 3 Bakersfields and none with the new Larrivee PUPS  :mad:

That's a problem that's easily solved ... all it takes is money!  :bgrin:


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: rockstar_not on August 31, 2012, 10:51:27 PM
I thought the Callaham saddles were one of the big 'upgrades' that the Bakersfield had over other Tele knock-offs.  And I thought that they were actually adjustable in some way besides one screw for two saddles.  But in looking at them up close on the Callaham site, it appears that they are 'fixed compensation' at least the two sides of the saddle per intonation screw.

Me, I like to fiddle around with different string diameters, and this almost always requires intonation adjustment across 6 strings, not just in pairs.  Also not being a traditionalist, I would love to see a 6 saddle bridge available on the Bakersfield.  And a pup arrangement like the Epiphone Nighthawk Custom, but that's just me.  I understand the desire to sell something that looks and feels familiar.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on August 31, 2012, 11:52:16 PM
rockstar when you go with 6 saddle's you trully loose the tele tone.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: rockstar_not on September 03, 2012, 04:43:00 AM
Rob, over in the Lollar thread read Mikeymac's post with the 59$ tele copy and inspect the photo.


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Mikeymac on September 03, 2012, 09:45:25 PM
Rob, over in the Lollar thread read Mikeymac's post with the 59$ tele copy and inspect the photo.

Are you commenting on the fact that the SX tele bridge has six saddles?

While I understand what unclrob is saying about the barrel saddles and tele tones, I've heard some nice Tele tones coming out of American Standard style Teles (with six individual saddles) and G&L's, which all use the six saddle bridge designed by Leo Fender...


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: SouthpawGuy on September 03, 2012, 11:19:23 PM
rockstar when you go with 6 saddle's you trully loose the tele tone.

Someone should tell this guy ... at 08:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz657p72ypk

 :bgrin:


Title: Re: I offically hate the new tele saddle's Retraction sort of
Post by: Barefoot Rob on September 04, 2012, 12:02:23 AM
We all hear different.I have had a tele with the 6 saddle's and it just didn't sound right too me.