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Title: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 25, 2010, 07:18:36 PM
From Expecting Rain. Feel free to add more. The first person to declare that he can't sing will get a prize.   

http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/news-and-views/cover-story/69-Things-to-Love-About-Bob-Dylan-110465714.html?page=1&comments=1&showAll=


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: carruth on November 25, 2010, 08:37:01 PM
Bob Dylan   :bowdown:  and he sings about as good as me.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: broKen on November 25, 2010, 09:56:51 PM
I never was a big fan of Dylan. I did enjoy one of his works, the one with "Tangled Up In Blue". Back when the blood was young.
A great musician and writer, no doubt. Thanks for the info.

btw, who says he can't sing?  :?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: BenF on November 25, 2010, 10:08:18 PM
Everybody can sing, its just that some folks don't like it!


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ffinke on November 26, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Some people can carry a tune and some need a bull dozer.

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Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 26, 2010, 04:49:03 PM
Close but no "cigar" ... yet. 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: guitom on November 26, 2010, 05:00:32 PM
While I'm not a Bob Dylan completist, I love every record of his that I have.  And his singing is as good as anyone else's in my opinion.  Crap, that ain't gonna win me jack.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: broKen on November 26, 2010, 09:21:22 PM
I'll have a go. Mr. Dylan can't sing any better than he used to.

Just send my prize to the nearest Salvation Army. It's getting near Christmas you know. Thanks,,,er,,uh, merci.  :donut2 :coffee


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 27, 2010, 11:22:26 AM
I'll have a go. Mr. Dylan can't sing any better than he used to.

Just send my prize to the nearest Salvation Army. It's getting near Christmas you know. Thanks,,,er,,uh, merci.  :donut2 :coffee
I always give to the SA on Christmas. I hope everybody does. That's where the rubber meets the road, so to speak. And nope, in response to the prize portion of our event, unclear comments will be dismissed by our judges. Thanks for participating.  :smile:   


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bb blues on November 27, 2010, 03:48:05 PM
legendary songwriter and lyricist...not so legendary on singing front...can only do Dylan in bite-sized chuncks


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on November 27, 2010, 08:30:34 PM
I declare, Bob Dylan can't sing.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 28, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
I declare, Bob Dylan can't sing.

You are an official curmudgeon, ain't ye? The judges have declared a winner, bingo has been called, ladies and gentlemen!  :laughin:

Well, PM me an address and your prize will be in the mail.   




Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: NotConvicted on November 28, 2010, 03:10:53 PM
I think the NPR guy from all songs considered summed it up for me:  Noboy Ruins Dylan Like Dylan (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2010/11/15/131328227/nobody-ruins-dylan-like-dylan)


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 28, 2010, 03:39:33 PM
I think the NPR guy from all songs considered summed it up for me:  Noboy Ruins Dylan Like Dylan (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2010/11/15/131328227/nobody-ruins-dylan-like-dylan)

How 'bout girls? Anyway too late! Bingo has been called. Please try again.   :arrow


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on November 28, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
A nice review from Sean Wilentz, who's new book, Bob Dylan in America, is a must read. At least, for me it is.  :smile:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-27/bob-dylan-concerts-at-terminal-5/


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on November 28, 2010, 11:52:30 PM
Saw him last month in Nashville. He was totally on his A game. The concert would have made a great live album. I also think it's for good reason people tend to be either really into his music or not a fan at all. I think the most talented artists, of any medium, will either be not very well known or will be polarizing.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on November 29, 2010, 01:46:28 AM
Saw him last month in Nashville.  He was totally on his A game. The concert would have made a great live album. I also think it's for good reason people tend to be either really into his music or not a fan at all. I think the most talented artists, of any medium, will either be not very well known or will be polarizing.

Glad to hear you enjoyed the concert.  Dylan to me is a towering figure but I still have mixed feelings about the guy. Great voice but never liked the macho posturing at all. Unfortunately for me, his voice over the last 12 years has become unlistenable and the music just so so IMO. Gotta admit he wrote some of the most interesting songs ever and he will live on in American history as one of its greatest songwriters. Three great albums out of a 100 (?) ain't bad. It will be a different planet after he dies.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Mr_LV19E on November 30, 2010, 01:10:20 AM
Just went on a road trip today and was listening to "Modern Times"

Brilliant songwriter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y7TXyy9W3U)


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ummagumma on December 14, 2010, 06:06:43 AM

Lazy stadium night
Catfish on the mound.
"Strike three," the umpire said,
Batter have to go back and sit down.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Used to work on Mr. Finley's farm
But the old man wouldn't pay
So he packed his glove and took his arm
An' one day he just ran away.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Come up where the Yankees are,
Dress up in a pinstripe suit,
Smoke a custom-made cigar,
Wear an alligator boot.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Carolina born and bred,
Love to hunt the little quail.
Got a hundred-acre spread,
Got some huntin' dogs for sale.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Reggie Jackson at the plate
Seein' nothin' but the curve,
Swing too early or too late
Got to eat what Catfish serve.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Even Billy Martin grins
When the Fish is in the game.
Every season twenty wins
Gonna make the Hall of Fame.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: vaguerecollection on December 17, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
Got the Bob Dylan blues and the Bob Dylan shoes
And my clothes and my hair's in a mess
But you know I just couldn't care less



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: HAMFIST on December 19, 2010, 04:39:10 AM
Cool link. Thanks.

The comments about Dylan's vocal skill are interesting. Because he certainly is not like a formally trained vocalist or someone who has a traditionally "good voice." But he gets across his point, musically. Function over form.

I really appreciate this fact about Dylan because I am not the best vocalist in the world either, and covering his songs even my vocals may be perceived by some as an improvement.

Simon and Garfunkel or James Taylor tunes, not so much.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Jeff on December 27, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
A nice review from Sean Wilentz, who's new book, Bob Dylan in America, is a must read. At least, for me it is.

Got it as Christmas present from my daughters--can't put it down.  If you are a Dylan fan, it is, indeed, a must read.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on January 21, 2011, 07:39:37 PM
Duck....or do you prefer Mr. Trapper?....

I received the prize today.  Many thanks.  I will drop off Matthews share ASAP. Looking forward to listening to it.

Thunder Bay, eh?  Every time I hear of Thunder Bay, I can't help but think of Barney Quill.....

Judge: Once again, Mr. Dancer, I must ask you to put straight questions to the witness.

 Dancer: Here's a straight question, your Honor. Miss Polan, were you Barney Quill's mistress?

A: No, I was not.

Q: Do you know it's common knowledge in Thunder Bay that you were living with Quill?

A: He was--

Q: Was what, Miss Polan? Barney Quill was what, Miss Polan?

A: Barney Quill was my father.

(Much noise in courtroom)

Q: That's all for me.




Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 21, 2011, 11:18:03 PM
Duck....or do you prefer Mr. Trapper?....

I received the prize today.  Many thanks.  I will drop off Matthews share ASAP. Looking forward to listening to it.

Thunder Bay, eh?  Every time I hear of Thunder Bay, I can't help but think of Barney Quill.....

Judge: Once again, Mr. Dancer, I must ask you to put straight questions to the witness.

 Dancer: Here's a straight question, your Honor. Miss Polan, were you Barney Quill's mistress?

A: No, I was not.

Q: Do you know it's common knowledge in Thunder Bay that you were living with Quill?

A: He was--

Q: Was what, Miss Polan? Barney Quill was what, Miss Polan?

A: Barney Quill was my father.

(Much noise in courtroom)

Q: That's all for me.




You would have to study the anatomy of a merger in our case. Until 1970 we were twin cities, Fort William and Port Arthur. The Ontario government forced us to amalgamate. Although given no choice over the merger, in a plebiscite, we were given the choice of three names for the new city.
1. Lakehead. 2. THE  Lakehead and 3. Thunder Bay. Sneaky eh?
I hope you like the CD. The song that I wrote is number 11. I thought Matthew would like the artwork on the CD itself.    


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 22, 2011, 12:38:26 AM
Overall Duck was the amalgamation a better thing :?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on January 22, 2011, 03:11:58 AM
"...You would have to study the anatomy of a merger......"

Now that is one of the funniest and most clever things I have seen in ages.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 22, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
Overall Duck was the amalgamation a better thing :?

I dunno, 41 years and ... we haven't decided yet.  :laughin:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 22, 2011, 01:48:36 PM
"...You would have to study the anatomy of a merger......"

Now that is one of the funniest and most clever things I have seen in ages.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EBs6Hg6MnNQ/SYzBBHM3ivI/AAAAAAAAAT0/fr6EUvrPFSk/s400/bowing_man.jpg)


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on January 25, 2011, 04:10:44 AM
Glad to hear you enjoyed the concert.  Dylan to me is a towering figure but I still have mixed feelings about the guy. Great voice but never liked the macho posturing at all.

Sorry for the late response. I like that about his music. Many songwriters come across as so domestic and soft; you know peace, love, getting along, sappy feelings and all that warm fuzzy stuff can get old. It's nice to hear something like...

"Gonna raise me an army, some tough sons of bitches
I'll recruit my army from the orphanages
I been to St. Herman's church and I've said my religious vows
I've sucked the milk out of a thousand cows"

I don't think it comes across as cocky either because Dylan sings a lot of stuff that is 'in character' so to speak and not a personal message.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 05:47:09 AM
Sorry for the late response. I like that about his music. Many songwriters come across as so domestic and soft; you know peace, love, getting along, sappy feelings and all that warm fuzzy stuff can get old. It's nice to hear something like...

"Gonna raise me an army, some tough sons of bitches
I'll recruit my army from the orphanages
I been to St. Herman's church and I've said my religious vows
I've sucked the milk out of a thousand cows"

I don't think it comes across as cocky either because Dylan sings a lot of stuff that is 'in character' so to speak and not a personal message.

I'm not much into sappy sentimental moods either (unless it's Ozzie Osborne) but when I think of Dylan being macho in a way I don't like perhaps "Leopard skin pill box hat" captures it. The guy just seems uncomfortable around women. Don't want to analyse but he does seem uptight and defensive in a lot of ways that to me seemed unnecessary, But then, it's not fair to expect perfection all the time.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
I'm not much into sappy sentimental moods either (unless it's Ozzie Osborne) but when I think of Dylan being macho in a way I don't like perhaps "Leopard skin pill box hat" captures it. The guy just seems uncomfortable around women. Don't want to analyse but he does seem uptight and defensive in a lot of ways that to me seemed unnecessary, But then, it's not fair to expect perfection all the time.

Uncomfortable around women? I don't think so. Whatever he may be, and judge the merits or lack of such, he is rumoured to have been ... er ... quite comfortable around lots of women. Now his attitude towards any one of them is proabably ripe for interpretration, just like the songs.  
As for macho? Personally, I think modern music could use some ... men. Everyone sings like a chick and half of them look like one. 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 12:44:06 PM

As for macho? Personally, I think modern music could use some ... men. Everyone sings like a chick and half of them look like one. 


What? I was kinda hoping we'd all evolved a little more than to still have those views. Sounds like the kind of thing your old man would've said. :smile:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
What? I was kinda hoping we'd all evolved a little more than to still have those views. Sounds like the kind of thing your old man would've said. :smile:

Well, I suppose it depends on whether you see it as a feature or a flaw. Thanks for the compliment though. My old man was right on. As I discover more each day.  :beer


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 26, 2011, 01:25:52 PM
Well, I suppose it depends on whether you see it as a feature or a flaw. Thanks for the compliment though. My old man was right on. As I discover more each day.  :beer

 :+1:  I can relate to that!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on January 26, 2011, 02:16:10 PM
Uncomfortable around women?  Really?

 Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Whatever colors you have in your mind
I'll show them to you and you'll see them shine.

Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Stay, lady, stay, stay with your man awhile
Until the break of day, let me see you make him
smile
His clothes are dirty but his hands are clean
And you're the best thing that he's ever seen.

Stay, lady, stay, stay with your man awhile
Why wait any longer for the world to begin
You can have your cake and eat it too
Why wait any longer for the one you love
When he's standing in front of you.

Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still
ahead
I long to see you in the morning light
I long to reach for you in the night
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still
ahead.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 05:08:01 PM
"Lay lady lay", "just like a woman"  the list goes on and they all make me wanna puke  :yak:,


On the other hand, "Visions of Johanna" is great! I like the way the Dead did that one too.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
"Lay lady lay", "just like a woman"  the list goes on and they all make me wanna puke  :yak:,


Hmmm. I'm not sure whether you need a gastroenterologist or a musicologist.   :wink:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
Hmmm. I'm not sure whether you need a gastroenterologist or a musicologist.   :wink:

Or Dylan needs a veterinarian. In those two songs it sounds more like he's talking about a dog.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 05:44:35 PM
Or Dylan needs a veterinarian. In those two songs it sounds more like he's talking about a dog.

Well ... b*tches are b*tches, after all.  :whistling:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on January 26, 2011, 05:48:32 PM
Or Dylan needs a veterinarian. In those two songs it sounds more like he's talking about a dog.

You have an interesting relationship with dogs then.

Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
You have an interesting relationship with dogs then.

Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.


I wouldn't treat a dog like that either, hence I don't have any dogs in my house.

And maybe I have no idea what Dylan's talking about, but it just don't sound right.

Well ... b*tches are b*tches, after all.  :whistling:

yes, shame on you for that one ducktrapper.   :cop:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 26, 2011, 06:04:41 PM
What? I was kinda hoping we'd all evolved a little more than to still have those views. Sounds like the kind of thing your old man would've said. :smile:
I hope I am misinterpreting this, but it seems as if you you are championing men becoming more effeminate?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 06:07:54 PM
I hope I am misinterpreting this, but it seems as if you you are championing men becoming more effeminate?


What does "effeminate" mean?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on January 26, 2011, 06:19:11 PM

I wouldn't treat a dog like that either, hence I don't have any dogs in my house.


Ok, so you don't want women or dogs in your bed. Got it.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 26, 2011, 06:36:03 PM

What does "effeminate" mean?
female like, as in more like a female than a male


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
To be more precise, it deals with males who are more female. A woman is not considered to be effeminate. She can be more or less feminine, however.  


ef·fem·i·nate   /adj. ɪˈfɛmənɪt; v. ɪˈfɛməˌneɪt/  Show Spelled
[adj. ih-fem-uh-nit; v. ih-fem-uh-neyt]  Show IPA
adjective, verb, -nat·ed, -nat·ing.  
–adjective
1. (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.
2. characterized by excessive softness, delicacy, self-indulgence, etc.: effeminate luxury.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 07:05:32 PM
Ok, so you don't want women or dogs in your bed. Got it.

How did you end up with that conclusion? 


–adjective
1. (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.
2. characterized by excessive softness, delicacy, self-indulgence, etc.: effeminate luxury.



None of that is allowed if you are a real man, unless you are a musician and you can make your guitar gently weep.

How ridiculous does this have to get?  :gotdonuts:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 07:23:07 PM
How did you end up with that conclusion? 


None of that is allowed if you are a real man, unless you are a musician and you can make your guitar gently weep.

How ridiculous does this have to get?  :gotdonuts:

Ridiculous? Words have meanings. Decisions have consequences. Trends have ... um ... destinations. And George Harrison was hardly effeminate.  :smile:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 07:40:22 PM
If


George Harrison was hardly effeminate.  :smile:


Then in response to:

it seems as if you are championing men becoming more effeminate?


I would say, no I am not championing men becoming more effeminate, but rather,  less macho and condescending toward women as in Dylan's song "Just like a woman" and less needy and dependent like in "lay, lady lady" 

But hey, that was all forty-five years ago, I trust Dylan's grown up a bit since then.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on January 26, 2011, 07:46:12 PM
How did you end up with that conclusion? 




Lay Lady Lay(Across my big brass bed) + "I wouldn't treat a dog like that either" = joke



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 26, 2011, 07:56:09 PM
If

Then in response to:
 

I would say, no I am not championing men becoming more effeminate, but rather,  less macho and condescending toward women as in Dylan's song "Just like a woman" and less needy and dependent like in "lay, lady lady" 

But hey, that was all forty-five years ago, I trust Dylan's grown up a bit since then.
Just shows how dumb I amm. I thought all these years "Lay Lady Lay" was a love song. Telling his lover what she meant to him. Thanks (I think) for educating me.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 08:06:08 PM
Just shows how dumb I amm. I thought all these years "Lay Lady Lay" was a love song. Telling his lover what she meant to him. Thanks (I think) for educating me.

Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 26, 2011, 08:13:46 PM
Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre.
Bizarre to me is flip flopping on your opinions. You called down "Duck" for saying too many singers (male) sing and look like women, which are physical attributes, then you say you meant attitudes. Would your wife prefer being calle d b***ch to being called "Lady"?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
Would your wife prefer being calle d b***ch to being called "Lady"?

I really don't care for either one. And I don't call her "Babe" either! That's reserved for female pigs.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 08:25:41 PM
Lay Lady Lay(Across my big brass bed) + "I wouldn't treat a dog like that either" = joke



That's what I thought you had in mind. Some people do let their pooches on the bed, hence my thinking Dylan wrote that song to a golden retriever.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 26, 2011, 08:27:54 PM
I really don't care for either one. And I don't call her "Babe" either! That's reserved for female pigs.
I didn't ask which you preferred, I was seeking a female opinion!


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 08:47:36 PM
I didn't ask which you preferred, I was seeking a female opinion!

Whoops. Well let me anticipate that her opinion would be one where if the choice was being called either "Lady" or "Bi*ch"?  "lady" would be the hands down winner.  Woof, woof.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on January 26, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?

No, that would have never crossed my mind.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
No, that would have never crossed my mind.


It's a lot more common than you think. When it comes to dogs, Lady is number 5 in popularity. Right behind Maggie, Bear, Molly and Shadow.

http://www.bowwow.com.au/find-a-name-for-your-pet/top-20-names/search-results.aspx?country=1&animal_type=2&animal_sex=Female&num_results=20&B3.x=40&B3.y=14&B3=Fetch

And on this list made it to the top, ahead of Princess, Maggie, Ginger and Daisy

http://www.dognameswoof.com/favoritegirldognames.htm



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 26, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
Well it probably means that too for most people. I just think that calling the woman you sleep with and claim to love "lady" sounds so bizarre. Don't we usually reserve the name "Lady" for female pets?

Gotta say friend I never made that association, very doubtful Dylan had either but an interesting view for sure


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on January 26, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
In the archaic, gentlemanly way, calling a woman a "lady" was not an insult. What people call their dogs is hardly germaine to the songwriting process. I would assume Dylan just liked the way the vowels went together and the words fit with his chord progression. I also seem to recall, it was not his favourite song either. Who knows he might agree with Bearsville. Anyway, lady? No big deal.
I was joking earlier, by the way. The new music thinks nothing of refering to all women as b*tches. I don't, as a rule. At least not all  of them.   :winkin:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 09:39:04 PM

I was joking earlier, by the way.

Of course I figured as much, but they tells me we have to be careful what we jokes about these days.



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 26, 2011, 10:15:21 PM

I also seem to recall, [Lay Lady Lady] was not his favourite song either. Who knows he might agree with Bearsville. Anyway, lady? No big deal.


Yes, in fact Dylan wanted to re-record the song as "Sit, Lady, Sit" to be a companion piece for an earlier hit by Chuck Berry "Rollover, Beethoven, Rollover."

 :laughin:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on January 26, 2011, 11:04:29 PM
Gotta say friend I never made that association, very doubtful Dylan had either but an interesting view for sure

Ain't No Way to Treat A Lady
Dark Lady....Cher
Disco Lady
Dude Looks Like a Lady...Aerosmith
For My Lady...Toots Thielemans
Foxy Lady...Cure
Green Eyed Lady
Ladies Love Outlaws ....Tom Rush
Lady...Kenny Rogers
Lady Be Good (or Oh, Lady Be Good)....Ella Fitzgerald
Lady Down on Love
Lady Evil....Black Sabbath (with Ronnie James, NOT Ozzie Osbourne)
Lady Godiva
Lady in Red
Lady Is A Tramp
Lady Luck....Brian Seltzer
Lady Love Me One More Time
Lady Madonna
Lady Marmalade....Patti LaBelle
Lady of the Night...Donna Summer
Lady Samantha....Elton John
Lady Willpower
Lay Lady Lay
Linda Was A Lady
Little Old Lady From Pasadena
Luck Be A Lady Tonight.....Frank Sinatra
No Way to Treat a Lady
Oh My Lady...Stampedes
Red Roses for a Blue Lady.....Bobby Vinton
She's a Lady, and She's Mine......Tom Jones
Sophisticated Lady....Duke Ellington
Sweet Lady
Sweet Painted Lady
That Lady
The Lady is Dancing With Me....Chris Ledoux
The Lady Wore Black...Queensryche
Three Times a Lady....Commodores
To a Lady Asking Foolish Questions....Tom Talbert (Jazz0
Treat Her Like a Lady...Celine Dion
Why Lady Why

As I recall, during the disco 70's it was quite common to refer to your female partner as "my lady"  as opposed to "my girlfriend"


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on January 27, 2011, 10:45:07 AM

It's a lot more common than you think. When it comes to dogs, Lady is number 5 in popularity. Right behind Maggie, Bear, Molly and Shadow.

http://www.bowwow.com.au/find-a-name-for-your-pet/top-20-names/search-results.aspx?country=1&animal_type=2&animal_sex=Female&num_results=20&B3.x=40&B3.y=14&B3=Fetch

And on this list made it to the top, ahead of Princess, Maggie, Ginger and Daisy

http://www.dognameswoof.com/favoritegirldognames.htm
When you really can't come up with anything of substance to support your personal viewpoint you can always change the direction of the conversation.
Bear, why don't you just come out and admit you don't like Dylan. He will probably be devastated but he will get over it.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 27, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
Walkerman - that's a lot of Ladies :smile:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on January 27, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Walkerman - that's a lot of Ladies :smile:

Even though I am strictly a one lady man...I do appreciate fine ladies :beer


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on January 27, 2011, 03:29:19 PM
When you really can't come up with anything of substance to support your personal viewpoint you can always change the direction of the conversation.
Bear, why don't you just come out and admit you don't like Dylan. He will probably be devastated but he will get over it.

First of all, I like a lot of Dylan, read my posts even in this thread. Blonde on Blonde is one of my favorite albums, I've bought the thing three times , most recently in SACD, That said there are times when he gets macho and condescending in a way I don't like and has written a few songs such as leopard skin pill box hat, lay lady lay, and just like a woman, that I think are crap for a variety of reasons. No big deal and Dylan couldn't give a hoot about what I think of his music. I consider the guy one of the Big Three in rock and pop music that will stand out forever as the gold standard in song-writing and musicianship (the other two are The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix).  The planet will be a different place when he dies.

and secondly, lighten up Glenn, if we can't poke fun and find fault with our heroes once in awhile then you've missed out on the whole party.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 12, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
Bob Dylan with Avett Brothers at Grammys.....

And with Mumford and Sons. I hope he adds something or gives them all a slap because I really hate both of these bands, especially M&S. The word blech  was invented just for them, I believe.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: kingjack5 on February 12, 2011, 04:55:59 PM
hummm. Counts John Prine as one his favorite song writers!


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: LawDogStrgsAttach on February 12, 2011, 04:59:55 PM
most overrated songwriter - ever.  can't even call him a singer.

dylan is emblematic for demonstrating america's rally around mediocrity in music en masse...

did someway say devisive?   :bgrin:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: kingjack5 on February 12, 2011, 09:22:24 PM
...I was so much older then but I'm younger than that now :nana_guitar


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 12, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
most overrated songwriter - ever.  can't even call him a singer.

dylan is emblematic for demonstrating america's rally around mediocrity in music en masse...

did someway say devisive?   :bgrin:

No someone said, deluded.  :tongue:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Zohn on February 17, 2011, 07:41:13 AM
 :+1: The best song writer of all time, old Bob - anyone heard Guy Davis' version of Dylan's "Sweetheart like you". It is from a tribute album for Bob's 60th birthday entitled "a Nod to Bob"


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 17, 2011, 09:16:06 AM
Just read this thread from start to finish with great interest.  My take on Dylan if anyone is interested.
He wrote many great songs that will be counted as among the best in american music, in my opinion.  He used to be able to sing them and get them across in a compelling way in the beginning when he just played and sang them with his guitar and harmonica.  The Byrds did a better job of covering his songs in "electric" mode than he did.  First efforts when he went "electric" and played with "The Band' were great.  Nashville Skyline was (is) a great album.  Now and for the last 20+ years or more, when he sings/performs it mostly sucks.  It's like Dylan trying to sound like Dylan, to me.  I'm basing this on the several performances and guest appearances I've seen him on, mostly on TV.  I did see him live once, here in Edmonton about 10 years ago.  I was mostly very disappointed.  It was like "da da DA, da da DA, da da DA, da da DA ............... (like I said before, Dylan trying to sound like Dylan).  I was actually very emotionally moved by one number, "Just like a woman".  But that was mostly because I realized I was witnessing Bob Dylan doing the song, more so than the actual performance of it, if that makes any sense.  My wife and I came away from the concert mostly disappointed.  As soon as we got home, I put on a tape I have of his earliest recordings of many of the songs we heard that night, and doing that kind of salvaged the evening for us.
As far as his attitude/relationship with women or whatever:  I agree with those of you who say his use of the word "Lady" just fits nicely with the song and there is no other profound meaning to it.  Consider "who's your daddy" for example.  I do think some of his songs, assuming they are based on personal experience, show a certain contempt for women.  Maybe he was somehow hurt by one or more?  Or maybe he's just typical of the era in which he grew up in?  In a few of his songs, he seems to be putting the emphasis on telling women off.

To me, one of his most compelling lyrics is in the song, Positively 4th Street, where he says "Yes I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes.  You'd know what a drag it is to see you."  IMHO that is one of the best lyrics to demonstrate a feeling or emotion ever written.    


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 17, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
"In a few of his songs, he seems to be putting the emphasis on telling women off."

When you realize that Dylan often uses this method to tell himself off, a lot of things make more sense.   



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on February 17, 2011, 05:09:05 PM
 He used to be able to sing them and get them across in a compelling way in the beginning when he just played and sang them with his guitar and harmonica.  The Byrds did a better job of covering his songs in "electric" mode than he did.     

As a young(ish) person, I think of the The Byrds as some lame pop band from a bygone era. I think The Byrds fans have to be comprised almost entirely of people who grew up in that era. I'm sure there are fans who didn't but I just can't understand it.

 Having been a Dylan fan for a number of years, I probably listen to Dylan everyday but hardly listen to his early acoustic stuff anymore. I don't mean to be argumentative but rather point out that coming from a different perspective I can't relate... that it seems really weird to hear that people actually liked the The Byrds' versions better or at all.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 17, 2011, 07:34:20 PM
The Byrds are just one more thing Dylan transcended. They needed him way more than he needed them. 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 17, 2011, 11:47:57 PM
Jeremy.  I didn't really say I liked the Byrds that much, I said they did a better job of doing some of Dylan's songs in an electric band context than Dylan did himself, IMO.  I didn't mean the songs were interpreted better by the Byrds than by Dylan could, of course.   And I did say Dylan's efforts at performing the songs "electrically" with The Band were great.  I just think he can't sing any more is all.
You might be right about mostly older people liking the Byrds, but I don't think so.  How do you know I'm not as young as you? :laughin:

I happened to like them a lot when they first appeared, especially the original group.  They wrote some pretty good songs themselves.  I actually tried to emulate McGuinn's guitar style quite a bit.  My playing is influenced by that band a lot when I think about it.  I do a lot of "cross-picking" when I play.  One of the first songs I learned to play fairly well was Mr. Tamborine Man, Byrds style.  But then I was also influenced by many, many bands and artists from that era.  So were most current musicians that you enjoy, I would think.  Beatles, Kinks, Hollies, Doors, Stones, Dave Clark 5, Yardbirds, Zombies, Led Zep, Elvis, Buddy Holly, the list is endless.

So is it just the Byrds and that style you don't care for or do you feel the same way about Buffalo Springfield, Crosby Stills and Nash (and Young), etc. and acts from that era in general?

 :guitar
Kurt


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on February 18, 2011, 02:00:25 AM
Jeremy.  I didn't really say I liked the Byrds that much, .

 

I do I like them a lot AND I always liked their versions of DYLAN better than DYLAN's, the harmony singing and McGuinn's jangly twelve-string Rickenbacker guitar had to influence many maybe not the influence of DYLAN but  certainly played a major role in music history.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on February 18, 2011, 03:19:52 AM
 How do you know I'm not as young as you? :laughin:


Cause you like the byrds  :laughin: You didn't have to say it.

So is it just the Byrds and that style you don't care for or do you feel the same way about Buffalo Springfield, Crosby Stills and Nash (and Young), etc. and acts from that era in general?

Well I don't like any of those, however I listen to a lot of music from the 60's and earlier. What I meant about the Byrds was that they don't transcend their era.  I think they were riding a wave. Personally, they sound like a generic pop band. They turned Mr. Tambourine Man into a very domestic sing along type performance, sounds like kids' music to me. I don't like music that's too easy to digest.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 18, 2011, 05:57:44 AM
Jeremy,
Different strokes for different folks.  The Byrds were  pretty iconic in their time.  Not sure what you mean by generic, but for sure they were a pop band, top 30, hit parade or whatever you want to call it.  So were most of the bands I mentioned before.  They were all on the hit parade and got lots of radio play.  Back then in the olden days, when dinosaurs like me were young, you heard these bands on the radio and that's how you got to know about them.  If you really liked them then you saved up your paper route money and went down to the mall on saturday and bought a 45 record of their song at Woolco for 79 cents.  If you were really rich, you would buy an LP album.  I think the first actual LP I bought was by Paul Revere and the Raiders.  Other early ones were by a band called the Cyrcle who had a hit called "Red Rubber Ball", and  of course the Beatles, and the Monkees.

I think even Dylan became first known to many people my age by being played on the radio too.  I can still remember hearing my first Dylan song, "Like a Rolling Stone" for the first time on my transistor radio on my way home from school when I was in grade 7 or 8!  I was very taken by that song.  I heard "Rainy Day Women" for the first time that way too.  I had no idea at the time that he had been a "folk singer" before that or that there had been a big controversy about him going electric and all that stuff.

When me and my buddies got a little older and started forming garage bands, we started to look at top 30 or pop songs with disdain.  Then, the cool thing to do was to listen to "underground" music on FM radio.  These were songs not on the hit parade from LPs by artists like Canned Heat, or Led Zeppelin, the Doors, Yardbirds, Iron Butterfly, or Vanilla Fudge etc. etc.  The DJ would talk in a solemn quiet voice and often offer some insight into the song or artist.  We called those uncool folks who just listened to AM pop music "bubble gummers" and their music was labeled "bubble gum" music.

So maybe that's the kind of music you don't like; bubble gum music. :tongue:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: flatlander on February 18, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
 Ha! I just jumped to the end of this thread but you are absolutely wrong, er, I disagree about the Byrds not transcending thier era. Thier influence is everywhere in country music today. For better or worse. They and a handful of others are the ones who first started tranforming folk and later country music, into hipper contemporary style and brought it to an entire generation. A generation who could not help but blend it , as the Byrds did, with rock, blues and music that was already in thier blood. Lyrically too. they helped open up subject material of country music.  
    Clarence Whiltes electric guitar work with the Byrds is absolutely a major influence on good country pickers still today.. Music always evolves, but in my view they gave it a big shove in the direction it ended up going. On the backs of the Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, New Riders and other lesser known, mostly California bands, the Eagles capitalized. (not to take away from Eagles who had paid thier early country rock dues)  A lot of young country artist today, especially but not exclusively, so-called outlaw country artist, cite the Byrds as Major influence. So in my opinion from both a direct influence, as in Clarences pickin, or bands sound in general, to a broader sense of opening up country music, thier legacy lives on thru much music being made 40 years later.
  There Byrds were only riding a wave in '65 in the sense that that McGuinn picked up an electric guitar like everyone else after the Beatles came out. Like many other folkies it wasn't just that they were influnced by them, it was a matter of survival if you wanted to get by playing music. Other wise they were causing waves, not riding them. Thier sound in 65 was fresh and different. It was others who were influenced by them. By the time that sound became common, they were moving on. To only cite the "bubble gum" sound as it was called in this thread,  very unfairly leaves out the post Crosby and Clark years. For one thing that era disintregrates the "riding the wave" idea. Sweethearts of the Rodeo" took a lot of balls to put out. Rock and country were in different universes then.  And in fact it remains I think, the Byrds worst selling album, yet one of the most influential.  Besides they weren't considered Bubble Gum at the time anyway.  Bubble Gum came a little later in the form of the bands Like The Cowsillls, Partridge Family, Ohio Express etc. To throw the Byrds into that camp is just plain wrong, and honestly, ignorant. You might not like them, and that's one thing. But if you're going to cut a band to the bone by calling them generic and not creative, know what you're talking about.  That's unfair. Anyone who doesn't realize thier impact and influence to this day, doesn't know thier music history.
 This video here was the Byrds by the time Bubble Gum music had come out. There's 2 songs. Be fair and listen to both. Clarence's guitar sounds a little raw, but listen to what he's doing.
(after only playing electric guitar for probably 18 months) Those prebend pedal steel sounds, that ended up leading to his and Gene Clarks invention of the B Bender, are absolutely influential sounds.
That's on first Dylan cover. Then on Wheels on Fire, well just call the Byrds bubble gum again. The Byrds later 60's lineup was considerd one of the hottest live acts to see as well.  I think you've made the mistake of being influenced by putting thier music in a little 60's box in the same manner that some folks won't watch an old black and white movie and thus miss out on great stuff.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37-2eB-wj8




Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Glennd on February 18, 2011, 01:21:26 PM

    
  To only cite the "bubble gum" sound as it was called in this thread,  very unfairly leaves out the post Crosby and Clark years. For one thing that era disintregrates the "riding the wave" idea. Sweethearts of the Rodeo" took a lot of balls to put out. Rock and country were in different universes then.  And in fact it remains I think, the Byrds worst selling album, yet one of the most influential.  



:+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: I feel strongly that the inclusion of the Christian influenced songs on this album had a lot to do with its lack of commercial appeal. One of my favorites to this day.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on February 18, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
What I meant was not that they never did anything after the mid 60's but rather that I can't imagine people who didn't catch on to them during that era caring about them. For instance, New Kids on the Block were wildly popular, influenced other large boy bands who then influenced or directly produced huge pop stars like Justin Timberlake.  Maybe the New Kids even had later albums that were more sophisticated that their fans loved. So there is no doubt New Kids on the Block were important in shaping the world of pop music however I would be blown away to learn that people who didn't listen to them back then are now discovering their music and how great it is.



As a fan of bluegrass I'm aware of Clarence White.

The clip you posted still sounds like a sing along version of the original. I really can't handle McGuinn's vocal delivery.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 18, 2011, 02:32:14 PM
Which Byrds are we talking about? How many albums did the original band make? Are we including everything that Jim/Roger McGuinn had his name on? I'm a fan of the Byrds, have all their albums, but seriously no one can legitimately argue they're in Dylan's league. He's in a league of his own. Thus this thread ye scurvy bunch of thread pirates!  :tongue:    


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: flatlander on February 18, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
Dylan's a true original to which no one can compare. Personally he's one of the reasons I started playing harmonica along with guitar, making first harmonica holders out of clothes hangers. Lyrically
in a league of his own. I think he a damn good singer too. Some may not like the way his vocal chords happen to resonate but when you go to learn his songs and pay attention to his phrasing, it's really cool. Delivers the emotion.
 You'll just have to excuse me if Sweethearts of the Rodeo and beyond isn't considered real Byrds. I say good ridence to Crosby.  Clarke was a good song writer. Hillman a great muscian who hung around a little longer than Crosby.
 As far as the comment about younger people not from that era, not caring about them, well your just wrong. At least in the arena that matters most. That is young musicians in country and country rock who take the time and have the interest to know where thier music comes from. They are cited by younger musicians as big influences. I've heard it/seen it, in audible and written interviews.
 I can understand not getting the impact of what Clarence was doing on first song, raw sounding and, I much, much better like his acoustic stuff, but...he was doing some innovative things that was and still is, a major influence on other players.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 18, 2011, 06:27:56 PM
Flatlander,
I never meant to imply the Byrds were a "bubble gum" band.  I agree with you on their importance and influence.  Like I said, they were one of my first inspirations in learning the guitar and I emulated them (or tried to) a lot.  I still listen to them often.  I just recently learned how to play "Feel a Whole Lot Better", for example.

Like you said, bubble gum came later and included the bands you mentioned.  I was just reminiscing about how, in the crowd I hung around with, you weren't cool if you liked "bubble gum" music.  I actually was a closet "bubble gummer" but I would never admit that to my friends.

Sorry Duck.  I felt I had to explain myself better.  And to bring it back on to Dylan, I agree with those who classify him among the all time elite in terms of song creation.  But I still think he can't sing today.  Let's say he could "deliver" a song like nobody else in the beginning, and maybe even sing OK.  I put Neil Young in kind of the same position;  A huge influence on rock music,  a great creator of songs and a great guitarist, but to me, only a so-so singer.  It's the total package that makes these artists so appealing, not that they are great singers (technically?).  When you think about it, there are so many lead singers in iconic rock bands that if you were to evaluate their singing in a technical way, they wouldn't be considered good singers.  But so what?  It's how they deliver a song is what makes them great.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on February 18, 2011, 08:25:19 PM
The Byrds are just one more thing Dylan transcended. They needed him way more than he needed them.  

You bring up an interesting point.  But to my way of thinking (and I graduated from high school in 67 so I kind of experienced this whole thing) if it hadn't of been for folks like Peter, Paul and Mary, the Byrds, the Turtles etc, Dylan might well have remaind a relatively small player.  To the world at large (ie, the world outside Greenwich Village), he became known as a writer long before he became known as a performer.
IOW....he needed them as much as they needed him. Had other folks not made his songs famous, he might never have gotten a listen as a performer. When I first heard Tambourine Man, I thought that the Byrds were a really good band playing a really good song.  Sometime later I heard the writer was Dylan.  About the only thing I knew about Dylan was that he had also written Blowin in the Wind, and that was only because I saw PP&M sing it on TV, and they said it was written by Bob Dylan.

It's like the reported conversation...

Bob Dylan to John Lennon....You've got nothing to say

John Lennon to Bob Dylan....No one hears what you say.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 19, 2011, 01:24:29 AM
Right on, Walkerman :thumb


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 19, 2011, 01:58:00 AM
I can't help but believe that nothing would have stopped Dylan's progress. Where are these people you mention today? Bob's still going strong. I'd be the first to admit that his singing style is unusual but it always works for me. People can do silly half arsed imitations of him but they can't duplicate his success. I think he is a great  singer.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on February 19, 2011, 02:33:46 AM
Where are these people you mention today? B

PPM is probably somewhere fighting for communism.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on February 19, 2011, 03:58:49 AM
I can't help but believe that nothing would have stopped Dylan's progress. Where are these people you mention today? Bob's still going strong. I'd be the first to admit that his singing style is unusual but it always works for me. People can do silly half arsed imitations of him but they can't duplicate his success. I think he is a great  singer.
Which reminds me.  I think his son, Jacob Jakob is a much better singer than the old man.  His voice has a similiar tone, ring, timbre (is that the right word?) while his singing is more melodic or something.  Not up and down as much or what I described  earlier as "da Da, da Da, da Da, da Da .....".  Hard to describe.

Kurt


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 19, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
Which reminds me.  I think his son, Jacob is a much better singer than the old man.  His voice has a similiar tone, ring, timbre (is that the right word?) while his singing is more melodic or something.  Not up and down as much or what I described  earlier as "da Da, da Da, da Da, da Da .....".  Hard to describe.

Kurt

You might want to start a thread entitled ... 1 Thing to Love About Jakob Dylan.    :wink:     :whistling:   :roll


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on February 19, 2011, 03:04:25 PM
PPM is probably somewhere fighting for communism.

Well, America is  the greatest threat to world peace, after all.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on February 19, 2011, 04:37:39 PM
Well, America is  the greatest threat to world peace, after all.

Certainly a thankless difficult job playing the role it must play in our World always having a big target on it's back


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ewalling on March 28, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
There was a time in the 60s when Dylan's lyrics were so hot they could have burned a hole in the sofa:

I wish I could give brother Bill his great thrill
I would set him in chains at the top of the hill
Then send for some pillars and Cecil B. deMille
He could die happily ever after!


Brilliant ... and spat out with such uncompromising energy and contempt. I don't think there has been anyone in the history of rock/pop music capable of aiming such a laser beam on what it means it be human and tell it so honestly - maybe brutally - and so perfectly and with such frequency. It wasn't that long before he'd shot his bolt, but while he was in full throttle, I think we were in the presence of greatness just as we were when Elvis and the Beatles were in their prime.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on March 28, 2011, 04:58:48 PM
Oh, imho, he still writes the odd good song. 

"Well I got here followin' the southern star
I crossed that river just to be where you are
Only one thing I did wrong
Stayed in Mississippi a day too long"

- from Mississippi

"Standing on the gallows with my head in a noose
Any minute now I’m expecting all hell to break loose
People are crazy and times are strange
I’m locked in tight, I’m out of range
I used to care, but things have changed"

- from Things Have Changed.

"Oh, I miss you Nettie Moore
And my happiness is o'er
Winter's gone, the river's on the rise
I loved you then and ever shall
But there's no one here that's left to tell
The world has gone black before my eyes"

- from Nettie Moore

Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
I love you pretty baby
You're the only love I've ever known
Just as long as you stay with me
The whole world is my throne
Beyond here lies nothin'
Nothin' we can call our own

I'm movin' after midnight
Down boulevards of broken cars
Don't know what to do without it
Without this love that we call ours
Beyond here lies nothin'
Nothin' but the moon and stars

Down every street there's a window
And every window made of glass
We'll keep on lovin' pretty baby
For as long as love will last
Beyond here lies nothin'
But the mountains of the past

My ship is in the harbor
And the sails are spread
Listen to me pretty baby
Lay your hand upon my head
Beyond here lies nothin'
Nothin' done and nothin' said

- Beyond Here Lies Nothing

I think he's still got it.
 



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on March 28, 2011, 07:08:41 PM

I think he's still got it. 


"The river whispers in my ear
I've hardly a penny to my name
The heavens never seemed so near
And all my body glows with flame.

The tempest struggles in the air
Unto myself alone I sing
It could sink me then and there
I can hear the echoes ring" ~ Tell Ol' Bill



I think if he doesn't have it then no one does. He's still serves them up hot too...

"Gonna raise me an army, some tough sons of bitches
I'll recruit my army from the orphanages
I been to St. Herman's church, said my religious vows
As I've sucked the milk out of a thousand cows

I've got the pork chops, she's got the pie
She ain't no angel and neither am I
Shame on your greed, shame on your wicked schemes
I'll say this, I don't give a damn about your dreams"~Thunder on the Mountain




Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on March 28, 2011, 07:53:18 PM
"Bob's still going strong"

He's going strong like the stones are going strong...based upon his past catalog and a lack of current talent in the music world.
When was the last time a bunch of current artists recorded one of his new songs?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on March 28, 2011, 08:36:58 PM
"Bob's still going strong"

He's going strong like the stones are going strong...based upon his past catalog and a lack of current talent in the music world.
When was the last time a bunch of current artists recorded one of his new songs?

They're probably recording them as we speak. I have a pretty fair collection of Dylan covers and  cover albums. Let's consider that fact. Which recording artist has, never mind more covers of their songs, more cover albums  of their songs than Dylan? At a glance I have seven and I'm aware of several more.     


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on March 28, 2011, 09:36:27 PM
They're probably recording them as we speak. I have a pretty fair collection of Dylan covers and  cover albums. Let's consider that fact. Which recording artist has, never mind more covers of their songs, more cover albums  of their songs than Dylan? At a glance I have seven and I'm aware of several more.     

When was the last time someone had a hit with a Dylan song on the order of Blowin in the Wind or Tambourine Man?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 28, 2011, 10:50:34 PM
All Along the Watchtower - Lenny KRAVITZ was pretty big and Knockin on Heaven's Door  by Guns'n Roses  without even thinkin :smile:

Oh and I always liked Pearl Jam - Masters of War  tho don't think The Duck is too happy with that one :? :beer



Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on March 28, 2011, 11:44:53 PM
When was the last time someone had a hit with a Dylan song on the order of Blowin in the Wind or Tambourine Man?

That's not how I judge an artist but Garth Brooks had pretty big hit with "To Make You Feel My Love" awhile back.




Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on March 29, 2011, 12:11:13 AM
All Along the Watchtower - Lenny KRAVITZ was pretty big and Knockin on Heaven's Door  by Guns'n Roses  without even thinkin :smile:

Oh and I always liked Pearl Jam - Masters of War  tho don't think The Duck is too happy with that one :? :beer



My point exactly....how old are those songs?
I never said Dylan didn't write a lot of great songs....but Dylan was largely a protest singer/writer in a era when protest reigned supreme...anti-war-segregation-government etc.  I just think that by and large, the times have passed him by....

Smoke a fattie, and you can read a lot of his lyrics and have either a great discussion or a big giggle.  Without the smoke, you got to just scratch your head at a lot of the stuff he wrote.

"The pumps don't work, cause the Vandals took the handles"............it's either realllllllllllly prescient, or awfully stupid.

Given all of the above, the 60's just wouldn't have been the 60's without Dylan.  If I had to pick just one song, and one version, as the greatest of all time, it would have to be "Like a Rolling Stone" performed by Dylan, original album version.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 29, 2011, 01:09:22 AM
What are we arguing about again :?  :?   :smile:


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: broKen on March 29, 2011, 02:47:24 AM

Smoke a fattie, and you can read a lot of his lyrics and have either a great discussion or a big giggle.  Without the smoke, you got to just scratch your head at a lot of the stuff he wrote.

"The pumps don't work, cause the Vandals took the handles"............it's either realllllllllllly prescient, or awfully stupid.


"Smoke a fattie,,,," I must admit there are times that I miss those days.  :blush:

"The pumps don't work, cause the Vandals took the handles"............    sounds like street eboneze vulgarity.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on March 29, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
What are we arguing about again :?  :?   :smile:

Old man rants aren't really arguments. There are subtle differences.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on March 29, 2011, 04:15:28 AM
They're probably recording them as we speak. I have a pretty fair collection of Dylan covers and  cover albums. Let's consider that fact. Which recording artist has, never mind more covers of their songs, more cover albums  of their songs than Dylan? At a glance I have seven and I'm aware of several more.     

Some of you might hate him, but Bryan Ferry from 2 years ago has a great whole album of Dylan covers called "Dylanesque"  but nothing much on it from the past 30 years of Dylan's stuff maybe just one number?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ewalling on March 29, 2011, 04:26:37 AM
My point exactly....how old are those songs?
I never said Dylan didn't write a lot of great songs....but Dylan was largely a protest singer/writer in a era when protest reigned supreme...anti-war-segregation-government etc.  I just think that by and large, the times have passed him by....

Smoke a fattie, and you can read a lot of his lyrics and have either a great discussion or a big giggle.  Without the smoke, you got to just scratch your head at a lot of the stuff he wrote.

"The pumps don't work, cause the Vandals took the handles"............it's either realllllllllllly prescient, or awfully stupid.

Given all of the above, the 60's just wouldn't have been the 60's without Dylan.  If I had to pick just one song, and one version, as the greatest of all time, it would have to be "Like a Rolling Stone" performed by Dylan, original album version.

For me, it isn't the protest songs of that make Dylan great, it's the material on 3 mid-to-late 60s albums - Bringing it all back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde. Although there is incisive social commnetary on these albuma, the style is much more surrealistic than protest. And on many songs, I think he does something that's quite rare for a rock/pop performer - he writes lyrics that stand up as poetry, aside from whether we hear the music or not, although it's mostly better when we do hear the music.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on March 29, 2011, 10:54:17 AM
Some of you might hate him, but Bryan Ferry from 2 years ago has a great whole album of Dylan covers called "Dylanesque"  but nothing much on it from the past 30 years of Dylan's stuff maybe just one number?

Fine CD. I also have Tim O'Brien's Red on Blonde, Joan Baez Sings Dylan, Coulson Dean McGuninness Flint's Lo and Behold, Gotta Serve Somebody - The Gospel Songs of Bob Dylan, Tangled Up in Blues - Songs of Bob Dylan/This Ain't No Tribute, A Nod To Bob - Alt Artists Tribute to Bob on his 60th Birthday, I'm Not There - Soundtrack, Masked and Anonymous soundtrack. Quite a few covers.
The thing is, with Dylan being as influential as he was and is, young bands are covering covers of covers and copying copies of copies to the point where the influence is ubiquitous. (How's that for not graduating kindergarten?). 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on March 29, 2011, 03:05:31 PM
Fine CD. I also have Tim O'Brien's Red on Blonde, Joan Baez Sings Dylan, Coulson Dean McGuninness Flint's Lo and Behold, Gotta Serve Somebody - The Gospel Songs of Bob Dylan, Tangled Up in Blues - Songs of Bob Dylan/This Ain't No Tribute, A Nod To Bob - Alt Artists Tribute to Bob on his 60th Birthday, I'm Not There - Soundtrack, Masked and Anonymous soundtrack. Quite a few covers.
The thing is, with Dylan being as influential as he was and is, young bands are covering covers of covers and copying copies of copies to the point where the influence is ubiquitous. (How's that for not graduating kindergarten?). 

So, when was the last time someone actually had a "hit" with a Dylan song?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on March 29, 2011, 03:24:16 PM
So, when was the last time someone actually had a "hit" with a Dylan song?

Well I couldn't say about "hits", I mean who has hits today other than Gaga and Britney, but judging by the I'm Not There soundtrack, there's still a lot of Dylan covering going on.

http://www.amazon.com/Im-Not-There-Various-Artists/dp/B000VS6P9Q

Disc One1."All Along the Watchtower" – Eddie Vedder and the Million Dollar Bashers
2."I'm Not There" – Sonic Youth
3."Goin' to Acapulco" – Jim James and Calexico
4."Tombstone Blues" – Richie Havens
5."Ballad of a Thin Man" – Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
6."Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" – Cat Power
7."Pressing On" – John Doe
8."4th Time Around" – Yo La Tengo
9."Dark Eyes" – Iron & Wine and Calexico
10."Highway 61 Revisited" – Karen O and the Million Dollar Bashers
11."One More Cup of Coffee" – Roger McGuinn and Calexico
12."The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" – Mason Jennings
13."Billy 1" – Los Lobos
14."Simple Twist of Fate" – Jeff Tweedy
15."Man in the Long Black Coat" – Mark Lanegan
16."Seńor (Tales of Yankee Power)" – Willie Nelson and Calexico
[edit] Disc Two1."As I Went Out One Morning" – Mira Billotte
2."Can't Leave Her Behind" – Stephen Malkmus and Lee Ranaldo
3."Ring Them Bells" – Sufjan Stevens
4."Just Like a Woman" – Charlotte Gainsbourg and Calexico
5."Mama You've Been on My Mind" / "A Fraction of Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie" – Jack Johnson
6."I Wanna Be Your Lover" – Yo La Tengo
7."You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" – Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová
8."Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?" – The Hold Steady
9."Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" – Ramblin' Jack Elliott
10."The Wicked Messenger" – The Black Keys
11."Cold Irons Bound" – Tom Verlaine and the Million Dollar Bashers
12."The Times They Are a-Changin'" – Mason Jennings
13."Maggie's Farm" – Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
14."When the Ship Comes In" – Marcus Carl Franklin
15."The Moonshiner" – Bob Forrest
16."I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine" – John Doe
17."Knockin' on Heaven's Door" – Antony & the Johnsons
18."I'm Not There (1956)" – Bob Dylan and The Band
[edit] iTunes bonus tracks1."Main Title Theme (Billy)" – Calexico
2."One Too Many Mornings" – Joe Henry
3."What Kind of Friend Is This" – Lee Ranaldo and Stephen Malkmus
[edit] Rhapsody bonus tracks1."Trouble in Mind" – Bob Dylan
2."Bunkhouse Theme" – Calexico


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: Walkerman on March 29, 2011, 04:34:59 PM
Well I couldn't say about "hits", I mean who has hits today other than Gaga and Britney, but judging by the I'm Not There soundtrack, there's still a lot of Dylan covering going on.

http://www.amazon.com/Im-Not-There-Various-Artists/dp/B000VS6P9Q

Disc One1."All Along the Watchtower" – Eddie Vedder and the Million Dollar Bashers
2."I'm Not There" – Sonic Youth
3."Goin' to Acapulco" – Jim James and Calexico
4."Tombstone Blues" – Richie Havens
5."Ballad of a Thin Man" – Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
6."Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" – Cat Power
7."Pressing On" – John Doe
8."4th Time Around" – Yo La Tengo
9."Dark Eyes" – Iron & Wine and Calexico
10."Highway 61 Revisited" – Karen O and the Million Dollar Bashers
11."One More Cup of Coffee" – Roger McGuinn and Calexico
12."The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" – Mason Jennings
13."Billy 1" – Los Lobos
14."Simple Twist of Fate" – Jeff Tweedy
15."Man in the Long Black Coat" – Mark Lanegan
16."Seńor (Tales of Yankee Power)" – Willie Nelson and Calexico
[edit] Disc Two1."As I Went Out One Morning" – Mira Billotte
2."Can't Leave Her Behind" – Stephen Malkmus and Lee Ranaldo
3."Ring Them Bells" – Sufjan Stevens
4."Just Like a Woman" – Charlotte Gainsbourg and Calexico
5."Mama You've Been on My Mind" / "A Fraction of Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie" – Jack Johnson
6."I Wanna Be Your Lover" – Yo La Tengo
7."You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" – Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová
8."Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?" – The Hold Steady
9."Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" – Ramblin' Jack Elliott
10."The Wicked Messenger" – The Black Keys
11."Cold Irons Bound" – Tom Verlaine and the Million Dollar Bashers
12."The Times They Are a-Changin'" – Mason Jennings
13."Maggie's Farm" – Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
14."When the Ship Comes In" – Marcus Carl Franklin
15."The Moonshiner" – Bob Forrest
16."I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine" – John Doe
17."Knockin' on Heaven's Door" – Antony & the Johnsons
18."I'm Not There (1956)" – Bob Dylan and The Band
[edit] iTunes bonus tracks1."Main Title Theme (Billy)" – Calexico
2."One Too Many Mornings" – Joe Henry
3."What Kind of Friend Is This" – Lee Ranaldo and Stephen Malkmus
[edit] Rhapsody bonus tracks1."Trouble in Mind" – Bob Dylan
2."Bunkhouse Theme" – Calexico


So, let me see if I have this right...you're using the fact that a biographical film about Bob Dylan has a bunch of his songs in it as proof that his songs are still being covered.....interesting.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on March 29, 2011, 04:42:24 PM
So, let me see if I have this right...you're using the fact that a biographical film about Bob Dylan has a bunch of his songs in it as proof that his songs are still being covered.....interesting.

I figure 35 or so covers must mean something. Many of these are newer popular groups, no? 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: flatlander on April 16, 2011, 12:24:43 PM
My duet picked up a couple more Dylan songs recently and played them out this week. Buckets of Tears and You're gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go.  A couple weeks ago we started doing Sylvio.
I picked up Blood On The Tracks in of all places, the grocery store. (Had record since about the day it came out)  There are so many great Dylan song's and I'm hesitant to say this but I guess Blood on the tracks has a lot of the songs that hit me the hardest. I have to be careful when putting it on! I had to pull off the road last week while listening. I'm serious.
  The 2 songs we picked are nice little fun songs but some like You're a big girl all the way, If you see her say hello, simple twist of fate, those songs all stick a fishing hook type probe straight into heart and twist. The type of Dylan songs I appreciate but don't particularly do it for me is like Jack of Hearts. I like the feel of it and everything but I like the imagry mixed in with down to earth at the same time. I'm guessing he had something in mind himself besides bustin money out of a wall but he leaves it so open that each listener can invent the meaning themselves. I think that's the whole point actually. Listener has to think or just naturally applies thier life to a song like that and many others, and so it has special meaning to each listener. That's a good trick. I think it's also the reason wacko's thought, think, Dylan was superman and had all the answers of the universe. No he's just an incredible song writer.
 Idiot wind, well great lines in it and if I were ever in the mood to say screw the world, and blame the world it would be great but I usually take the blame for being the idiot myself.
The rest of the songs are gems to me. 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on April 16, 2011, 12:44:16 PM
My duet picked up a couple more Dylan songs recently and played them out this week. Buckets of Tears and You're gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go.  A couple weeks ago we started doing Sylvio.
I picked up Blood On The Tracks in of all places, the grocery store. (Had record since about the day it came out)  There are so many great Dylan song's and I'm hesitant to say this but I guess Blood on the tracks has a lot of the songs that hit me the hardest. I have to be careful when putting it on! I had to pull off the road last week while listening. I'm serious.
  The 2 songs we picked are nice little fun songs but some like You're a big girl all the way, If you see her say hello, simple twist of fate, those songs all stick a fishing hook type probe straight into heart and twist. The type of Dylan songs I appreciate but don't particularly do it for me is like Jack of Hearts. I like the feel of it and everything but I like the imagry mixed in with down to earth at the same time. I'm guessing he had something in mind himself besides bustin money out of a wall but he leaves it so open that each listener can invent the meaning themselves. I think that's the whole point actually. Listener has to think or just naturally applies thier life to a song like that and many others, and so it has special meaning to each listener. That's a good trick. I think it's also the reason wacko's thought, think, Dylan was superman and had all the answers of the universe. No he's just an incredible song writer.
 Idiot wind, well great lines in it and if I were ever in the mood to say screw the world, and blame the world it would be great but I usually take the blame for being the idiot myself.
The rest of the songs are gems to me.  

I agree BOTT is a superb song collection, performed impeccably. Like you and me, and I suspect Mr. D. knows full well, the idiot wind blows from all our mouths.
What do you think of the controversy of his not playing Maureen Dodd's set list in China?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10dowd.html?_r=1

Here is Sean Wilentz's smackdown of that spectacurly idiotic column.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/04/the-real-dylan-in-china.html

and another

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2011/04/literary-smackdown-bob-dylan-in-china.html

Another thing to love about Bob Dylan? His starting his Chinese shows with Gonna Change My Way of Thinking.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: flatlander on April 16, 2011, 01:23:06 PM
Don't have time to repond to all those but Dylan, is gonna do whatever he feels like, or decides, and that's that.
I thought the few comments I heard on news about China tour were funny. I mean if nothing else Dylan does represent to me doing things your own way.
 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on April 16, 2011, 11:24:55 PM
Two things surprised me about Dylan in China:

Why would anyone care what Maureen Dowd has to say? She has been so consistently annoying that I didn't think anybody bothered to read her anymore.

Secondly, why would anybody bother going to see Bob Dylan anymore either unless it was a small club type of gig where I would expect him to at least have picked a decent backup band.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on April 17, 2011, 03:02:16 AM

Secondly, why would anybody bother going to see Bob Dylan anymore either unless it was a small club type of gig where I would expect him to at least have picked a decent backup band.

He's traveled with basically the same awesome band for around 15 years I believe.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on April 17, 2011, 02:38:33 PM
Two things surprised me about Dylan in China:

Why would anyone care what Maureen Dowd has to say? She has been so consistently annoying that I didn't think anybody bothered to read her anymore.

Secondly, why would anybody bother going to see Bob Dylan anymore either unless it was a small club type of gig where I would expect him to at least have picked a decent backup band.

His band? Charlie Sexton? Stu Kimball? Donnie Heron? Recile and Garnier? Are you kidding me? You just pulled a Dowd, man! 


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: bearsville0 on April 17, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
He's traveled with basically the same awesome band for around 15 years I believe.

His band? Charlie Sexton? Stu Kimball? Donnie Heron? Recile and Garnier? Are you kidding me? You just pulled a Dowd, man! 

Cool, see, now I want to hear him live. Does he even play small clubs or gigs with less than a 1000 people?


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: ducktrapper on April 17, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
Cool, see, now I want to hear him live. Does he even play small clubs or gigs with less than a 1000 people?

Not often but maybe as his career winds down, if it ever does. Then again, it's Bob Dylan. You just never know. His band was even better when Larry Campbell was on board and let's not forget Mr. D. himself, on guitar, keyboards and harmonica might not be too bad a musician. He's had a lot of practice.   


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: jeremy3220 on April 17, 2011, 11:58:28 PM
Cool, see, now I want to hear him live. Does he even play small clubs or gigs with less than a 1000 people?

I saw him at the Ryman and the Tennessee Theatre which aren't that big.


Title: Re: 69 Things to Love About Bob Dylan.
Post by: flatlander on April 18, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
Not often but maybe as his career winds down, if it ever does. Then again, it's Bob Dylan. You just never know. His band was even better when Larry Campbell was on board and let's not forget Mr. D. himself, on guitar, keyboards and harmonica might not be too bad a musician. He's had a lot of practice.   
Count me in the minority again perhaps, but besides being a good singer to me, he's also a good musician. It's in the phrasing, with vocals and harp. On harp when you go to learn note for note, you realize there's more thought into it than what you'd think. It's often not the notes that just roll of harmonica. "I'lll be your baby tonight" is a good example. I think he might have used 2 harps or had a custom one for that.