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Title: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: boden on March 31, 2010, 04:20:50 PM
After recently acquiring my OM-09e (which is fab; well it will be after it's first set-up anyway!) I am gutted and frustrated that my Marshall AS80R acoustic amp decided to develop a fault on the acoustic channel (not good timing!) and now just makes a load hissing noise.

So, I'm going to try and get it fixed as it's quite a good amp that I've had for years but if that's a no-go I need to find another acoustic amp.

Unfortunately, my budget is not very big (since I recently spent any money I had on the OM-09). I would be very grateful for any ideas for what amp to look out for. When trying the OM-09 prior to purchase the shop had a Schertler David which sounded really nice but maybe a big pricey.

I would need the amp to have at least 2 channels so that I can plug in a microphone and guitar as I sometimes do solo gigs.

Any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks! Donuts anyone?  :donut :donut :donut :donut2 :donut2 :coffee


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: yosephroth on March 31, 2010, 05:59:11 PM
I play through a Fender Acoustasonic Jr., which has 2 inputs, that I got used for about two fitty.  The tone is great, but man is this thing loud.  I'm currently looking to trade it for something smaller, so I'd recommend smaller if you play in your house with an amp.  I like the idea of the Genz-Benz Shenandoah Jr.  Sells for $450 new online and has the removable pre-amp thing.  I owned a Ibanez Troubadour 35 previously and loved it.

P.S. If anyone in AZ wants to trade amps 1 to 1....


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: eded on March 31, 2010, 06:04:19 PM
I'm absolutely sold on Ultrasound amps. 


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: maLavvo on March 31, 2010, 06:07:23 PM
Hi

I have a small but powerful amp - Roland AC-65, there is a little bit bigger one model # AC-90.  Can be put on stand on on the floor.  Check it out!

 :+1:


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: dberch on March 31, 2010, 06:25:51 PM
Hard to beat Ultrasound amps for value.


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: fongie on March 31, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
I've been doing a little research on a few low budget amps lately myself. For a fantastic sounding, low budget acoustic amp, I found that Genz Benz Shenandoah is a good choice for the money. That would be my pick
cheers
fongie


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: Michael T on March 31, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
  I owned a Ibanez Troubadour 35 previously and loved it.
P.S. If anyone in AZ wants to trade amps 1 to 1....

I have one too great amps for under 3 bills, really nice acoustic sound with and XLR out too, at least the older ones had it. They are very nice for cheap.

I wouldn't highly recommend any amp per se, but get a PA with good base specs if you have the coin, you'll never look back.



Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: webberink on April 02, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
 This may seem off the wall BUT if money is a big consideration and versatility is a consideration too try a Peavey KBA 30 or 50.  It has 4 inputs, a dedicated mic channel, and a dedicated acoustic  instrument channel, all in a small package.  Works good as a light bass amp too.  Very versatile.  The sound is really surprising.  I have both the 30 and 50 and use them a lot in small venues, often even putting a base through the amp along with my guitar.  FWIW, give one a try.  You can often find them used for really cheap.  And they seem bullet proof.
Dave


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: ducktrapper on April 02, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Personally, I don't really understand "acoustic" amplifiers. I use a Fender Passport PD250. Functions nicely as a small P.A. and acoustic guitar amplifier but also doubles as a pretty decent stereo in my music room. Just as portable and twice as useful, imho. 


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: Michael T on April 02, 2010, 05:15:14 PM
Personally, I don't really understand "acoustic" amplifiers. I use a Fender Passport PD250. Functions nicely as a small P.A. and acoustic guitar amplifier but also doubles as a pretty decent stereo in my music room. Just as portable and twice as useful, imho. 

+1 PA is the way to go for the clean sound acoustic amplification craves.


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: fongie on April 03, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Anyone heard of a Crate CA6110D Gunnison amp? Made in USA with chinese components, 60 watter, nice review on Harmony Central and very cheap. I'm checking one out today for sale in the papers secondhand.
cheers
fongie


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: Glennd on April 13, 2010, 06:51:05 PM
Check out Doyle Dykes on youtube. If you like his sound he uses a Rivera Sedona mic'd through a PA. Heard him live two weeks ago. Very nice sound. Personally I agree with going straight to a PA. Acoustic guitars with a subtle stereo chorus sounds very nice to my ears.


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: eded on April 13, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
This may seem off the wall BUT if money is a big consideration and versatility is a consideration too try a Peavey KBA 30 or 50.  It has 4 inputs, a dedicated mic channel, and a dedicated acoustic  instrument channel, all in a small package.  Works good as a light bass amp too.  Very versatile.  The sound is really surprising.  I have both the 30 and 50 and use them a lot in small venues, often even putting a base through the amp along with my guitar.  FWIW, give one a try.  You can often find them used for really cheap.  And they seem bullet proof.
Dave
I had a KB100.  Actually, I left it at the pub where I had a weekly open mic.  It was the main amp...  I ran my acoustic (through an Ultrasound PAMM), a mic (Audix OM-5 usually), and my electric (through several pedals and a looper).  Great amp...  I hated moving the thing.  It weighed a ton!  When the pub closed, I sold the amp.
Personally, I don't really understand "acoustic" amplifiers. I use a Fender Passport PD250. Functions nicely as a small P.A. and acoustic guitar amplifier but also doubles as a pretty decent stereo in my music room. Just as portable and twice as useful, imho. 
For acoustic (in a small to medium room), I'm not after stereo (and I have decent stereo equipment for home).  An Ultrasound AG50 is good for up to a medium room.  As clean as clean can be and has mic and instrument inputs.  If I'm playing a bigger place, I have a PA setup to use.

YMMV
Ed


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: Mr_LV19E on April 13, 2010, 10:44:04 PM
I have a Genz Benz Shenandoah Jr that has 2 channels that mix together under a single EQ, 1 xlr input and two  1/4" input, 35 watt, plus reverb, echo, chorus, tremolo, flanger and combo effects, 10" woofer and tweeter. It is a great little amp.
I just replaced it though with a Genz Benz Shenandoah  100 watt version that has a 12" woofer, the main reason for upgrading was the full EQ and the xlr and 1/4" input on each channel.
Both have outputs on the back but the 100 has pre and post eq outputs.
I would like to try an Ultrasound someday, only heard good things about them.


Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: rockstar_not on April 21, 2010, 03:56:59 AM
If budget is a big concern, then take the lead of several folks in this thread and go to your local music store and play your guitar through a keyboard amplifier.

Note that 'Acoustic guitar amps' all try to look the same (for the most part).  Here's what you'll get:  A full range amp and speaker (like a keyboard amp), with fewer input channels (than a keyboard amp), brown tolex cover and tweed looking grille material (unlike a keyboard amp which will almost assuredly be black in both cases).

You'll not be disappointed in using a keyboard amp to amplify your acoustic guitar.  Normally more PA-like features than so-called acoustic guitar amplifiers.  Both types of amps are designed to be full-frequency range systems.  Unlike electric guitar amps, which have intentional non-flat response (usually mid-range heavy) and have the unneeded boost channels on them.

Just because keyboard amps aren't labeled as acoustic guitar amps doesn't mean it functions poorly when used that way.  My K+K on my Larry sounds absolutely delightful through the church's keyboard amplifier - as it well should.

-Scott



Title: Re: acoustic amplifier recommendations?
Post by: Hinto on June 03, 2010, 02:35:54 AM
+1 PA is the way to go for the clean sound acoustic amplification craves.

+1, I use the Yamaha Stagepass 500, the 300 model is cheaper and quite nice as well.