Hi Folks
EDIT: I have now consolidated the Serial Number List and the entry form on one page:
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Please use the link above.
I just created an online form for serial numbers
Serial Number Entry Form (http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGRoZlQ0YjRFSnotQ0VuV2pBUmJOdlE6MA)
You can fill in your serial number and other data there.
After you have done that you can view all the entries here:
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tdhfT4b4EJz-CEnWjARbNvQ&output=html)
PLEASE let me know if I left out any options and I will change the form. Okay?
Okay folks - please let me know what you think.
I clicked on the Larrivee Serial Number link and it says that I don't have permission to view the spreadsheet?????
Quote from: Johnny M on January 03, 2010, 12:41:57 PM
I clicked on the Larrivee Serial Number link and it says that I don't have permission to view the spreadsheet?????
EDIT: New page Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Try it now: Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tdhfT4b4EJz-CEnWjARbNvQ&output=html)
Please let me know if you can see it.
Thanks!
yep, works now.
Thanks for your initiative.
John
Hi, I just bought a new L-03. I cant find the serial #. Its not on the sticker inside. Anybody know where it is?
Quote from: Levon on January 03, 2010, 02:19:20 PM
Hi, I just bought a new L-03. I cant find the serial #. Its not on the sticker inside. Anybody know where it is?
Look for the serial number on the inside of the guitar on block at the base of the neck.
Did you find it?
Quote from: Levon on January 03, 2010, 02:19:20 PM
Hi, I just bought a new L-03. I cant find the serial #. Its not on the sticker inside. Anybody know where it is?
Like ST said. The long number will be the serial# and the short code will be the model line (e.g. 03 for your L-03)
Dave
Entered what I knew - and screwed up the date entry format - Sorry - Those are the only dates I got from Larrivee, and if they didn't indicate otherwise, I assumed it was the start date.
Now I have a reason to request the date info on my other guitars - Hadn't really cared too much before -
Thanks for starting this ST!
Tad
Ya I found it thanks. The model code 03 in on the top though.
Does the ser# reflect the manufacture date by any chance?
What if the model # and serial# are all one? How about (10)1614? or what? Need to make sure everyone knows that's how they used to do it.
Quote from: flatlander on January 03, 2010, 02:45:54 PM
What if the model # and serial# are all one? How about (10)1614? or what? Need to make sure everyone knows that's how they used to do it.
Hi flatlander,
I'm not sure how to make sure everyone knows.
I have added this text to the introduction.
Find the serial number on the inside of the guitar on block at the base of the neck.
Typically this will appear as two lines.
The top line (usually one or two characters) is part of the model number.
The second line is the serial number
I have added some more prompts for the dates too.
You can check these out here.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
If you can think of a better way to put this, please let me know.
Hi Tad,
No worries - I fixed up the date format.
Quote from: tadol on January 03, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
Entered what I knew - and screwed up the date entry format - Sorry - Those are the only dates I got from Larrivee, and if they didn't indicate otherwise, I assumed it was the start date.
Now I have a reason to request the date info on my other guitars - Hadn't really cared too much before -
Thanks for starting this ST!
Tad
Does anyone have a good photo of the neck block showing his/her serial number?
I'll add this to the Larrivée Serial Numbers web page (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Gee ... if only Larrivee would put the date of manufacture along with the serial .... ??? Not rocket science but it sure would have provided some great information since it seems most folks want to know when their guitar was made? Are they doing it now ..... nope? One asks the question?
Here is one
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/Daysailer/IMG_4100.jpg)
Hey Daysailer,
Thanks for the picture. That's perfect!
Here is how I used it: Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Quote from: ST on January 03, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
Does anyone have a good photo of the neck block showing his/her serial number?
I'll add this to the Larrivée Serial Numbers web page (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Here's a pic.
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/daddyo12453/IMG_0897_1_1.jpg)
Thanks Roger,
Another great picture. I'll figure out how to use it and post a link in a few minutes.
Whoever has 1518 Can you tell me what your confidence level is on date? Mine is 1614. When I talked to them on phone way, way back they told me it is was built in Jan 81. A few years ago I sent e-mail and they replied it was started in Dec 80' . I got it like Feb 81 and I know it came straight from factory to dealer opening new shop. If you are pretty sure about yours I'll put 01/81 for mine as well. No biggie it'd just be good to have a linear thing going on.
So, my OM-03RE has the serial number on the Neckblock as well as the soundhole label. (I think my 12 sting does as well) The serial number is not exactly identical, one is 6 digits long the other is 8. only difference is the presence of two leading zeros.
Which SN should I enter?
Hi AZLiberty,
I'd drop the leading 00s.
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 03, 2010, 07:09:33 PM
So, my OM-03RE has the serial number on the Neckblock as well as the soundhole label. (I think my 12 sting does as well) The serial number is not exactly identical, one is 6 digits long the other is 8. only difference is the presence of two leading zeros.
Which SN should I enter?
Yeah, I entered the data and it looks like it failed to take. (don't see the info) I'll try again with no zeros.
Tag = 04620
Neck = 004620
Took a few minutes but the info showed up, spreadsheet simply ignores leading zeroes
Mark
Hi Flatlander,
1518 that's me
I checked the email I got from Luke at Larrivee. He said, "It's probably '81 ", and he got that from Jean and Matt
He also told me they were running 2-4 months for a build at that time.
I'm going with your information (below). So for my C38 I set the build start date as November 1980 and end as January 1981.
That way you can put your information in to the form and the report will come out in proper sequence.
Sound okay to you?
Quote from: flatlander on January 03, 2010, 07:03:55 PM
Whoever has 1518 Can you tell me what your confidence level is on date? Mine is 1614. When I talked to them on phone way, way back they told me it is was built in Jan 81. A few years ago I sent e-mail and they replied it was started in Dec 80' . I got it like Feb 81 and I know it came straight from factory to dealer opening new shop. If you are pretty sure about yours I'll put 01/81 for mine as well. No biggie it'd just be good to have a linear thing going on.
Hi Mark
The data is there!
We're using googledocs and there is a lag of up to 5 minutes.
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 03, 2010, 07:24:29 PM
Yeah, I entered the data and it looks like it failed to take. (don't see the info) I'll try again with no zeros.
Tag = 04620
Neck = 004620
Mark
Quote from: ST on January 03, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
PLEASE let me know if I left out any options and I will change the form. Okay?
The original parlors (first 500) have a funny model number, I think it's O-01, to differentiate them from the later parlors. The first 500 had a 1 11/16" neck and they changed to 1 3/4" on the second and subsequent runs.
Not certain if the spreadsheet accounts for that or not. (I suppose you could select P for Parlor Size and enter O01 as the model?
Quote from: ST on January 03, 2010, 07:27:23 PM
Hi Flatlander,
1518 that's me
I checked the email I got from Luke at Larrivee. He said, "It's probably '81 ", and he got that from Jean and Matt
He also told me they were running 2-4 months for a build at that time.
I'm going with your information (below). So for my C38 I set the build start date as November 1980 and end as January 1981.
That way you can put your information in to the form and the report will come out in proper sequence.
Sound okay to you?
sounds good, I'll enter mine as such. :thumbsup
Hi AZLiberty,
* Body Style
There is a space for "Other" where you can type in anything you want.
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 03, 2010, 07:33:36 PM
The original parlors (first 500) have a funny model number, I think it's O-01, to differentiate them from the later parlors. The first 500 had a 1 11/16" neck and they changed to 1 3/4" on the second and subsequent runs.
Not certain if the spreadsheet accounts for that or not. (I suppose you could select P for Parlor Size and enter O01 as the model?
But if there are 500 of them out there somewhere I'll add "O" as a body style.
Thanks for the information.
Quote from: ST on January 03, 2010, 07:55:52 PM
But if there are 500 of them out there somewhere I'll add "O" as a body style.
I blame Matthew. :humour: The first 500 were a bit of a test run. Matt got on RMMGA and a whole bunch of us went out and bought them as soon as they hit the shelf. Our Local Guitar Center Got three in and I made them bring out all of them for me to look at. (I bought the one with the stripiest fretboard).
Then they changed to the wider neck. Rather torqued me off at the time. If I had known they were going to change I'd have waited, as the 1 11/16" neck is a bit cramped on the short scale parlor neck.
Anyway, I just e-mailed Yumi with the serial # for my parlor (and 12 string) and asked for the manufacture date as well as the model number. At the time, they were just "Parlors". It was only after the parlor was a hit that Larrivee retroactively assigned model numbers to them. So let's see what she says about the model #.
When I added my four guitars' specs, they showed up pretty quickly, but you need to check at the bottom of the chart, as that's where they land. Then, as it says above the form, they have to be sorted and put in by date later.
Yumi got back to me within a day on the build date for my 12 (already entered). I think she's going to be a busy lady.
She wanted a little more info on the Parlor, so I took some pics.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Parlor003-1.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Parlor004.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Parlor005.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Parlor006.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Parlor010.jpg)
Note the just over 1 11/16" neck
Hmmm...my daughter's parlor, SN 56270 was made in 2000, but the next two guitars from 2001 and 2002 have LOWER serial numbers? I'm almost positive I have the date right because it was a gift for her 14th birthday in July of 2000; could these numbers be that far off, or does someone have the wrong date/s?
BTW, another question about her parlor for anyone in the know: it is spruce top/mahogany sides/back; has no body binding, but there is creme binding on the sides of the fingerboard, but none on the end of the fingerboard at the soundhole and the nut is right at 1.75".
Someone said the first batch of 500 had 1 11/16" nuts, so evidently this isn't one of those? Did the early ones have any binding on the fingerboard? I've seen both those with no binding and those with binding all around, but none like hers with no binding at the end of the fretboard...
...thanks for any clarification!
EDITED TO ADD: Looking more closely, I also see two older instruments (a mandolin and an LS guitar) with higher SN's than my RS-4 which was just completed around Dec. 15...I know this to be the case because I talked with Matthew Larrivee on the phone in mid-November and he told me he had three lefty rootbeer RS-4's near completion, so if I wanted one to put in my order, which I did. Just goes to show that serial numbers are not always in sequential order by date.
I thought they assigned serial number early in process, so if they sat around a while before being completed, that could happen.
Just so that the link is visible on this page
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 04, 2010, 11:09:14 PM
Someone said the first batch of 500 had 1 11/16" nuts, so evidently this isn't one of those? Did the early ones have any binding on the fingerboard? I've seen both those with no binding and those with binding all around, but none like hers with no binding at the end of the fretboard...
That was me. Look in my pic above, you can clearly see the neck has black plastic binding. The neck at the soundhole is unbound.
ST - just curious: once you've entered your info, is there any way to edit it? I only ask because I really didn't look carefully at my labels to see if there was anything interesting there that should be included.
Also, here's another question - while it might be helpful to list the serial numbers of other Larrivee's you've owned, but sold - would it be right to do this, since they now belong to someone else? It would help add information to the databank, but it's probably questionable to do so...
This is the email I received from Larrivee.
Your guitar was started in production 09/2002. By started in production,
I mean the sides were joined at the blocks, a serial number assigned to
the instrument, and the serial number registered in our books.
Brian Trepanier
Customer Service Representative
This is what I was told by Don at Wildwood Music where I purchased the guitar on 4/13/2007. He said they had the guitar in stock for less than 6 months, he also said that Jean took on special projects and worked at them when he had the time. Whether Jean himself built my guitar or not, it is outstanding and I don't really care.
About this same time there were other guitars that were showing up on the market as new with older serial #s. My guess would be that because they give them the serial # when the sides were joined at the block there could be any number of them in different stages of build sitting on racks at the factory for many different reasons or problems (read damaged). At some point during a lull in production or whatever they may have taken it upon themselves to finish off these unfinished guitars and get them to market. I have worked in many factories and this is not uncommon, it is much easier to put a problem to the side during heavy production and forget about it until orders start lacking.
Take this for what it is worth but I believe it is much more likely that these older serial numbers show up because they have been sitting at the factory not NOS at a music store. YMMV
Hi Mikeymac,
Great questions.
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 05, 2010, 11:10:40 AM
ST - just curious: once you've entered your info, is there any way to edit it? I only ask because I really didn't look carefully at my labels to see if there was anything interesting there that should be included.
Also, here's another question - while it might be helpful to list the serial numbers of other Larrivee's you've owned, but sold - would it be right to do this, since they now belong to someone else? It would help add information to the databank, but it's probably questionable to do so...
EditsI can't think of a good way to make it possible to make things editable for the general population without leaving the data open to catastrophic vandalism. I
can do edits in the background. So if you want to add something, please post the information here.
Serial Number: _________________________
Changes or additions: ____________________
I don't mind doing this every now and then.
Who enters the data? Ownership" It would help add information to the databank," - agreed and
I don't see any harm in someone entering data about guitars they used to own. The way the data is presented does not suggest that the person submitting it owns the guitar; just that s/he knows something about it.
What do you think?
Hi Roger,
This is great information.
I am going to post this on the Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers) page to help folks understand what the dates mean.
Quote from: Mr_LV19E on January 05, 2010, 11:25:55 AM
This is the email I received from Larrivee.
Your guitar was started in production 09/2002. By started in production,
I mean the sides were joined at the blocks, a serial number assigned to
the instrument, and the serial number registered in our books.
Brian Trepanier
Customer Service Representative
This is what I was told by Don at Wildwood Music where I purchased the guitar on 4/13/2007. He said they had the guitar in stock for less than 6 months, he also said that Jean took on special projects and worked at them when he had the time. Whether Jean himself built my guitar or not, it is outstanding and I don't really care.
About this same time there were other guitars that were showing up on the market as new with older serial #s. My guess would be that because they give them the serial # when the sides were joined at the block there could be any number of them in different stages of build sitting on racks at the factory for many different reasons or problems (read damaged). At some point during a lull in production or whatever they may have taken it upon themselves to finish off these unfinished guitars and get them to market. I have worked in many factories and this is not uncommon, it is much easier to put a problem to the side during heavy production and forget about it until orders start lacking.
Take this for what it is worth but I believe it is much more likely that these older serial numbers show up because they have been sitting at the factory not NOS at a music store. YMMV
edit: Larrivée Serial Numbers - Manufacturing Date - Start (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers#Manufacturing_Date)
Hi Everyone,
I have made the manufacturing start date (the in production date) a REQUIRED field. Why?
In similar lists of serial numbers that I have seen, the numbers are presented by date. If someone enters the information and omits the date, then that entry floats to the bottom of the list where it is unlikely to be noticed by anyone reading the list.
Later, if someone wants to add that date information, they have to write to me and I have to edit things in the background.
Rather than go through all of that, it seems to make more sense to me to simply make the date a required field at the outset.
How's that?
I added mine as N/A. With a bit of a description.
Having a start date as a required field seems fine to me. Larrivee knows the start date, on none of my guitars do they know the finish date, just "6-8 weeks after the start is usually how long it takes".
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 05, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Having a start date as a required field seems fine to me. Larrivee knows the start date, on none of my guitars do they know the finish date, just "6-8 weeks after the start is usually how long it takes".
Pretty easy to determine the finish date for my LS-03 forum III. I took it off the bench the minute it had strings on it !
Yumi, got back to me and verified the 0-01 designation for the very earliest parlors. I'll be entering the SN data shortly.
With an 08-30-1999 start date, I might have the oldest Parlor on here. (oldest on the list so far)
Some people seem shy about making serial number public. Maybe there's a good reason, but to me it just solidifies your ownership.
I have not posted any of mine ( 8) as I never did get the build date as had no real reason ( personally) until now. And I hate to bug Larrivee at a time when resources are tight for the business. Am I being too passive?
Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on January 07, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Am I being too passive?
Yes. Yumi got back to me within a couple hours on my date request. That indicates to me that they are not that busy.
Update about the
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
We've got about 45 instruments listed so far and we've got some gaps:
Earliest entry is 1975 then
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nothing until 1980 then
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nothing until 1992 then
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1994
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1996
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1997
and then pretty good coverage after that.
So if you want to help other people date their guitars, please pop your serial number in here.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Thanks!
Hi flatlander
Quote from: flatlander on January 07, 2010, 02:05:30 PM
Some people seem shy about making serial number public. Maybe there's a good reason, but to me it just solidifies your ownership.
There is a place where you can put in your Larrivée forum name - but that is optional. So adding the information can remain anonymous. No one is actually tracking who is entering what. So without entering a name or forum handle it's pretty much anonymous if anyone prefers to leave that part of the form blank.
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 07, 2010, 03:08:52 PM
Yes. Yumi got back to me within a couple hours on my date request. That indicates to me that they are not that busy.
I guess I ought to confirm my build dates on mine...is there are particular e-mail address or place on the Larrivee website to fill out a form requesting this information? It would be nice to know when a couple of these were actually started/built/finished, as I really have no clue (Parlor and D-03R).
Thanks.
Yikes ST ... I screwed up my entry and havn't a clue how to edit. So if you don't mind, could you edit for me. Serial # 22662 and #25340 ... the completion date is not known for either and should be left blank. I put in 01 01 01 for the completion date thinking that 01 was a code for meaning I didn't know the date and it recorded it as a date. The 01 code in the registry info is a little confusing to supper dolts like me.
Thanks much
Dave
Hi Mikeymac,
Go here Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers) and there is a link for "Obtaining your Manufacturing date"
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 07, 2010, 03:32:12 PM
I guess I ought to confirm my build dates on mine...is there are particular e-mail address or place on the Larrivee website to fill out a form requesting this information? It would be nice to know when a couple of these were actually started/built/finished, as I really have no clue (Parlor and D-03R).
Thanks.
Hi webberink,
No problem - I probably will drop the completion date - as it is going to be very hard for most people to actually know this.
and
No problem - I will fix this but let me confirm this with you first.
Serial number 22662 is the manufacturing start date
2/11/1967 1967?
Quote from: webberink on January 07, 2010, 03:43:21 PM
Yikes ST ... I screwed up my entry and havn't a clue how to edit. So if you don't mind, could you edit for me. Serial # 22662 and #25340 ... the completion date is not known for either and should be left blank. I put in 01 01 01 for the completion date thinking that 01 was a code for meaning I didn't know the date and it recorded it as a date. The 01 code in the registry info is a little confusing to supper dolts like me.
Thanks much
Dave
ST
The way Yumi at Larrivee stated it for my OM 09 Walnut back in March last year was "11/2/1997" and the way Luke at Larrivee stated it for the D09 back in March 2008 was "10/01/1998." These methods of dating are confusing as they change from country to country. 11/2/1997 I take to mean the 11th day of the 2nd month of 1997 etc. (How can anything so simple become so complicated Huh??? But thanks for doing this. It's a pile of work but really helpful.)
Dave
Hi webberink,
Well I was really questioning the year (1967) and at least we have that straight.
As for entering dates - that's why I specifically asked for it as
yyyy mm dd
and then the output (over which I have no control) is mm/dd/yyyy
Ugh it's hard to know from one country to the next despite the international standards.
I'll make the changes now. They should be visible in 5-10 minutes.
Quote from: webberink on January 07, 2010, 04:31:01 PM
ST
The way Yumi at Larrivee stated it for my OM 09 Walnut back in March last year was "11/2/1997" and the way Luke at Larrivee stated it for the D09 back in March 2008 was "10/01/1998." These methods of dating are confusing as they change from country to country. 11/2/1997 I take to mean the 11th day of the 2nd month of 1997 etc. (How can anything so simple become so complicated Huh??? But thanks for doing this. It's a pile of work but really helpful.)
Dave
Quote from: webberink on January 07, 2010, 04:31:01 PM
ST
The way Yumi at Larrivee stated it for my OM 09 Walnut back in March last year was "11/2/1997" and the way Luke at Larrivee stated it for the D09 back in March 2008 was "10/01/1998." These methods of dating are confusing as they change from country to country. 11/2/1997 I take to mean the 11th day of the 2nd month of 1997 etc. (How can anything so simple become so complicated Huh??? But thanks for doing this. It's a pile of work but really helpful.)
Dave
Yumi has been sending out dates in standard US format month/day/year. (I know it's confusing) Otherwise the 8/30/1999 start date for my Parlor makes no sense.
Does anyone know Yumi personally?
Perhaps a call to explain what we are doing would help.
Interestingly - when we get a few more numbers from each year in there, this could help people date their guitars without having to write to Larrivée.
I would call but I don't have the number but if someone has one - if you send me a Private Message, I'll call and have the conversation.
Admin...
I have suggestion: why dont we make this serial number database as sticky?
It would be important source like the sound clips. IMHO.
:bowdown: :bowdown:
cheers,
Peter
Hi Folks!
Anybody have Larrivées made in the 70's or 80's.
It would be great to include you here.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Thanks for the thought Peter,
Yes please - the goal is to get enough information in here for this to be a meaningful resource to Larrivée owners. The more people see this, the faster we can build up a significant body of knowledge. Making this thread sticky or putting a link in the FAQs would help.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Quote from: pehabe on January 08, 2010, 09:21:34 AM
Admin...
I have suggestion: why dont we make this serial number database as sticky?
It would be important source like the sound clips. IMHO.
:bowdown: :bowdown:
cheers,
Peter
Quote from: ST on January 13, 2010, 02:14:01 AM
Thanks for the thought Peter,
Yes please - the goal is to get enough information in here for this to be a meaningful resource to Larrivée owners. The more people see this, the faster we can build up a significant body of knowledge. Making this thread sticky or putting a link in the FAQs would help.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
:+1: if you need support.
Hi,
Someone entered
Serial Number 26113
Date 1/1/1980
Everything else was entered "Unknown" or left blank.
This number looks like the late 1990s than 1980.
Is the person who entered this out there? Maybe we can figure this one out with a few more details.
Here is a link:
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
...there are some more RS-4 (RS4) owners here who haven't registered their electrics on the serial number sight yet, including a couple who have posted in this forum (ducktrapper and JOYCEfromNS)...
...just sayin'
:rolleye:
Quote from: ST on January 14, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
Hi,
Someone entered
Serial Number 26113
Date 1/1/1980
Everything else was entered "Unknown" or left blank.
This number looks like the late 1990s than 1980.
Is the person who entered this out there? Maybe we can figure this one out with a few more details.
Here is a link:
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
If it was me, I'd remove it. It is obviously not even in the ball park on time frame and the lack of any other info makes it useless at best.
Thanks flatlander,
Quote from: flatlander on January 14, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
If it was me, I'd remove it. It is obviously not even in the ball park on time frame and the lack of any other info makes it useless at best.
Makes sense to me. The owner can always input the information again with more details at any time.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
So am I the only person with 4 digit -03 series guitars. Just seems kind of odd.
:+1: I added my info thanx.
Don't be surprised if Yumi direct all future queries to you!! :tongue:
Quote from: AZLiberty on January 16, 2010, 02:03:12 AM
So am I the only person with 4 digit -03 series guitars. Just seems kind of odd.
You have TWO of 'em...what's up with that?
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 16, 2010, 09:49:25 AM
You have TWO of 'em...what's up with that?
Actually 3 if you count my wife's OM-03. :laughin:
Story starts in 1998 or so. Looked at several OM's at one of the guitar stores in Phoenix (Music Go Round). Sales guys did the smartest thing they could do, namely left me alone with the guitars. I spent probably an hour playing 3 guitars, an OM-03, OM-03RE, and an OM-09. Couldn't afford the upcharge on the -09, even though I really liked the wider neck on the 09.
Tough choice, the hog sounded good, and had the slickest action ever, the rosewood sounded better, but had a touch higher action. I ended up buying the OM-03RE, which was priced where an OM-03R should be. The next day I took my wife out for lunch at the Mongolian stir fry which was in the same strip mall as the guitar shop, she ended up buying the OM-03 on the spot after lunch.
I bought the D-03R-12 from the same chain (different location) about a year later during their going out of business sale.
So:
OM-03 SN 003694 (don't have date need to e-mail Yumi)
OM-03RE SN 004620 Start date 3/5/1998
D-03R-12 SN 005265 Start date 5/1/1998
And yes, each serial number (on the neck block) starts with a double zero. The two OM's have the serial number on the paste tag as well, and are written with a single zero for whatever reason.
I see I've messed the spreadsheet up a little. :blush: I wanted to update the model by reentering my guitar. (Thought the spreadsheet would overwrite). Now my guitar is in the list 3 times. Well it is a great guitar but 3 times in the list is too much even for this great guitar. (Aren't they all?)
Can anyone delete the wrong entries? The correct one is the D03R.
Thanks
Hans
Sure!
I'll fix this up later today.
Thanks for entering your information.
Quote from: Swedish Chef on January 16, 2010, 02:27:10 PM
I see I've messed the spreadsheet up a little. :blush: I wanted to update the model by reentering my guitar. (Thought the spreadsheet would overwrite). Now my guitar is in the list 3 times. Well it is a great guitar but 3 times in the list is too much even for this great guitar. (Aren't they all?)
Can anyone delete the wrong entries? The correct one is the D03R.
Thanks
Hans
Quote from: ST on January 14, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
Hi,
Someone entered
Serial Number 26113
Date 1/1/1980
Everything else was entered "Unknown" or left blank.
This number looks like the late 1990s than 1980.
Is the person who entered this out there? Maybe we can figure this one out with a few more details.
Here is a link:
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
I am not the one who listed #26113, but I am the new owner of it. I just bought it on eBay from a pawn shop in Florida. The auction did not list the model, but I was confident it was a D-03 because of the pictures. I could see in one picture that the model was not on the label, but I searched the forum and found some information about generic labels--I still thought it was a D-03 and assumed the owners simply didn't know where else to look. After it arrived, I was disappointed because the model number was not stamped on the neckblock; the only thing there is the serial number. Seeking more information, I referred to your list and was astonished to find #26113 already there. I was also immediately skeptical of the claimed 1/1/80 manufacturing date. That prompted me to look through the forum, where I found your post.
After a lot of pondering, perhaps I have solved the mystery. The eBay auction began on 1/9 and ended on 1/16. The guitar was listed on your site on 1/13. On the same day, a question/answer was posted on the eBay auction page (the question: "What is the model number?"; the answer: "We don't know"). The dime-store detective in me thinks that when the sellers were asked about the model number, they searched the web and found your site. They then filled in the serial number with a guess at the manufacturing date, in hope that your site would spit out the model number. That would also explain all the blank and "unknown" fields.
The guitar with no model designation remains a mystery. It is a dreadnought with a spruce top, and mahogany (or sapele?) back and sides, with ivoroid fingerboard binding (not black plastic, like a D-02), all of which make it sound like a D-03. Anyway, I have requested information--especially about the missing model number--from Larrivee by email. When I receive a response, I will list it on your site.
Thanks for creating and maintaining the serial number list.
Quote from: dwm857 on January 27, 2010, 02:37:01 AM
The guitar with no model designation remains a mystery. It is a dreadnought with a spruce top, and mahogany (or sapele?) back and sides, with ivoroid fingerboard binding , all of which make it sound like a D-03. Anyway,
Thanks for creating and maintaining the serial number list.
That would be a D-03 circa 1999. Larrivee stopped putting model numbers on the paste tag in early/mid 1998. White Neck binding + black body binding would be an -03. The -02 was all black. Later the -03 was changed to all white.
Pic of 1998 binding: (click to zoom)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/th_MEH023-1.jpg) (http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/MEH023-1.jpg)
Hi dwm857,
Congratulations on getting that new (to you) guitar. Also thanks for clarifying and adding more info about this serial number.
When you get the info from Larrivée please go ahead and use the form (bottom of the page here):
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Thanks again and enjoy your D03
Quote from: dwm857 on January 27, 2010, 02:37:01 AM
I am not the one who listed #26113, but I am the new owner of it. I just bought it on eBay from a pawn shop in Florida. The auction did not list the model, but I was confident it was a D-03 because of the pictures. I could see in one picture that the model was not on the label, but I searched the forum and found some information about generic labels--I still thought it was a D-03 and assumed the owners simply didn't know where else to look. After it arrived, I was disappointed because the model number was not stamped on the neckblock; the only thing there is the serial number. Seeking more information, I referred to your list and was astonished to find #26113 already there. I was also immediately skeptical of the claimed 1/1/80 manufacturing date. That prompted me to look through the forum, where I found your post.
After a lot of pondering, perhaps I have solved the mystery. The eBay auction began on 1/9 and ended on 1/16. The guitar was listed on your site on 1/13. On the same day, a question/answer was posted on the eBay auction page (the question: "What is the model number?"; the answer: "We don't know"). The dime-store detective in me thinks that when the sellers were asked about the model number, they searched the web and found your site. They then filled in the serial number with a guess at the manufacturing date, in hope that your site would spit out the model number. That would also explain all the blank and "unknown" fields.
The guitar with no model designation remains a mystery. It is a dreadnought with a spruce top, and mahogany (or sapele?) back and sides, with ivoroid fingerboard binding (not black plastic, like a D-02), all of which make it sound like a D-03. Anyway, I have requested information--especially about the missing model number--from Larrivee by email. When I receive a response, I will list it on your site.
Thanks for creating and maintaining the serial number list.
I heard from Yumi and listed the correct information for #26113. You might want to remove the other listing.
Hi dwm857,
Thanks for entering your serial number information.
Quote from: dwm857 on January 29, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
I heard from Yumi and listed the correct information for #26113. You might want to remove the other listing.
Done
Anyone else want to add to the serial number knowledge base?
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Quote from: ST on January 29, 2010, 12:46:47 AM
Hi dwm857,
Anyone else want to add to the serial number knowledge base?
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Hi ST
Still awaiting word from Yumi before entering my Herd :nanadance
Where are those 10,000 guitars between 81 and 91 or 81 and whenever they went on acoustic hiatus?
Quote from: ST on January 29, 2010, 12:46:47 AM
Anyone else want to add to the serial number knowledge base?
ST,
Could you go in and change the year of my Parlor; I got the following note back from Yumi on it:
"Parlor – 56270 – Your Parlor was completed on 4/3/2002 in Vancouver, BC."This didn't make any sense to me, because I bought the guitar for my daughter in 2000, when she was 14. But then I remembered that we sent it back later for some warranty work (cracks in the fingerboard). I thought they had repaired it, but evidently they replaced it instead, and I hadn't recorded the serial number before (or didn't have a record of it - silly me!). So this serial number entry form is solving some interesting mysteries! (They also said my '92 OM-05's serial number didn't match up as an OM, so we're doing some more sluething! I DO have the receipts and records for that one.)
ST
As per The Rev's experience this endeavor of yours has many benefits and uses thanks again for taking it on :bowdown:
Hi Mikeymac,
I made the change to the completed date and I set the start date to Jan 1 2002 (based on estimated time to build).
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 31, 2010, 03:41:56 PM
ST,
Could you go in and change the year of my Parlor; I got the following note back from Yumi on it:
"Parlor – 56270 – Your Parlor was completed on 4/3/2002 in Vancouver, BC."
This didn't make any sense to me, because I bought the guitar for my daughter in 2000, when she was 14. But then I remembered that we sent it back later for some warranty work (cracks in the fingerboard). I thought they had repaired it, but evidently they replaced it instead, and I hadn't recorded the serial number before (or didn't have a record of it - silly me!). So this serial number entry form is solving some interesting mysteries! (They also said my '92 OM-05's serial number didn't match up as an OM, so we're doing some more sluething! I DO have the receipts and records for that one.)
Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on January 31, 2010, 03:59:16 PM
ST
As per The Rev's experience this endeavor of yours has many benefits and uses thanks again for taking it on :bowdown:
I agree wholeheartedly, ST -
thank you for taking on this project! I'm still waiting to hear back on my '92 OM. It will be interesting to see if they can clear up the serial number confusion.
I will say this; it only took Yumi about a week to get back to me - I thought that was pretty good turn around time, especially with a number of us making requests right now for the SN spreadsheet.
Hi JOYCEfromNS & Mikeymac,
I'm glad you are perceiving value here. We are up to about 75 serial numbers entered.
Only one from the 70's
Two from the 80's
Something for each year in the 90's except 1995
2000's are well represented so far.
and here's the link since we've started a new page.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
PS
Does anybody know Yumi well enough to let him/her know what's going on with the serial numbers? If anyone has a direct email address for him/her - please send it through a private message to me and I'll write to explain what may be causing more requests than usual.
Quote from: ST on February 01, 2010, 10:13:19 AM
PS
Does anybody know Yumi well enough to let him/her know what's going on with the serial numbers? If anyone has a direct email address for him/her - please send it through a private message to me and I'll write to explain what may be causing more requests than usual.
Sent you a PM.
Hi Mikeymac,
I sent a note on the first. Thanks for helping with that.
Quote from: Mikeymac on February 01, 2010, 10:39:39 AM
Sent you a PM.
Hi JOYCEfromNS,
Thanks for your entries into the Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers) page - we're up to about 90 entries there in the last month. There are actually more than that, but some of them are incomplete.
So anyway - 90 entries is not not bad for a month.
We are looking for entries from the 70's and 80's for sure. It would be great to have more across the board though.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.
Hello, gentlemen! My father and I just purchased a couple of used Larrivee's and I will be glad to enter our information in the serial number database just as soon as we hear back from Larrivee. My father also has a Larrivee that he purchased new last year that I will be glad to report. Be blessed!
Hi folks,
We up over 100 instruments. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.
Still looking fo rmore in the 70s and 80s.
Larrivée Serial Numbers (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers)
Hi ST great Job you aré doing. I 've just entered the data of my 2006 L05 but made a couple of mistakes that i can not correct . Could you do it for me? serial number 86010 ( not 860010 ). Label: single cherub Jean Larrivee Guitars, model L05, made in usa. Thanks
Hi Ponte,
Thanks for entering your info.
Quote from: Ponte on February 17, 2010, 03:43:01 PM
Hi ST great Job you aré doing. I 've just entered the data of my 2006 L05 but made a couple of mistakes that i can not correct . Could you do it for me? serial number 86010 ( not 860010 ). Label: single cherub Jean Larrivee Guitars, model L05, made in usa. Thanks
The changes are done.
Entered my '93 L-10 Custon earlier. Thought @ this point you wanted some earlier guitars. Should I add my F-III to the list? Great job on all & seems like alot of work. We all appreciate it, as I'm sure Larrivee does!
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your kind thoughts. I hope the folks at Larrivée don't mind the bump in interest in build dates. In the end it should make things easier.
Please add your FIII.
The more the merrier.
Thanks.
Thanks ST. Did so. Cool to look @ a piece of history! :thumb
Jeff
Hi ST. Thank you for making the changes in my entry.
HI ST, I just added my 2004 OM-05MT and 2008 L-05 to the serial number database. Very cool.
When I got my response from LARRIVEE they only gave me completion date. Since start date is required, I just entered my completion date there.
Just curious, why the 'no-dashes' rule on model number? Larrivee lists the numbers with dashes - why can't we enter them that way? by the way I noticed at least one person did, and it seems to have worked.
Thanks for setting this up!
David
Hi David,
Thanks for adding your serial number information.
Quote from: dberch on February 18, 2010, 08:18:50 PM
HI ST, I just added my 2004 OM-05MT and 2008 L-05 to the serial number database. Very cool.
When I got my response from LARRIVEE they only gave me completion date. Since start date is required, I just entered my completion date there.
Just curious, why the 'no-dashes' rule on model number? Larrivee lists the numbers with dashes - why can't we enter them that way? by the way I noticed at least one person did, and it seems to have worked.
Thanks for setting this up!
David
The reason for no dashes of spaces is that this reduces the number of different ways that various people can name what is essentially the same thing. For example you might write OM-05MT and someone else might write OM-05 MT and someone else might write OM05MT. By asking everyone to omit dashes and spaces, that makes that problem go away.
If we ever need to do things like sort by model number, the dashes and spaces do really funny things to sorting and grouping (e.g. OM-60 appears before an OM5) .
Also, I just double checked and three of my Larrivées do NOT have dashes in the model number that is stamped inside. I wasn't able to get to the others easily tonight, but I think I have seen some model numbers with spaces or dashes and some without.
So ultimately this was all about making it easy to have a consistent naming convention. I went into the data earlier tonight and did some cleanup so things would be more consistent.
There is nothing in the form to prevent people from entering dashes and spaces in the model number, but it just makes it difficult to deal with later if they do.
Does that make sense?
ST, there are a lot of different models out there, I assume the model number is the differentiating symbol, but some have descriptions in addition to the model number. For example: my LO512 is a 12 string and my DV09 is a dreadnaught with a cutaway. If I didn't own these I would not know what a DV09 is or a LO5 with a 12 after it. In entering the information I assumed special designations were for forum guitars or limited runs etc. I realize the work you must have put into this but if that box is to describe the model such as with Dreadaught with cutaway, or 12 string it wasn't very clear to me, but must've been to others. In any case, it's a nice record and something I think may be very useful for buyers/sellers and those of us with a curious streak.
Quote from: ST on February 19, 2010, 01:43:46 AM
Also, I just double checked and three of my Larrivées do NOT have dashes in the model number that is stamped inside. I wasn't able to get to the others easily tonight, but I think I have seen some model numbers with spaces or dashes and some without.
Ha odd that Larrivee have an inconsistency in their numbering system :humour:
Good thing they make a world class product!!!!!!!!!!
Hi ST, I was referring to the way Larrivee lists model numbers on their website, not inside the guitar. Even Larrivee isn't consistent!
Your comments make perfect sense to me. Thansk for this great service!
David
Quote from: dberch on February 22, 2010, 04:22:01 PM
Hi ST, I was referring to the way Larrivee lists model numbers on their website, not inside the guitar. Even Larrivee isn't consistent!
Consistent?
My OM-03RE. Rosewood w/ Factory Fishman (tag just says OM-03)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Guitars/Guitar011.jpg)
My D-03R-12 (tag says nothing)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m192/NVGdude/Guitars/Parlor004.jpg)
AZ, have never seen a serial # on the label, other than a hand-written one on a limited run. And, I've owned MANY Larrivees since '92 when I was first turned on to them. Pretty unusual? :?
Jeff
Hi ST.
Thanks for this important service and work. I posted my gits serial numbers early and the "Manufacture End Date" was posted wrong in each case. It should have been left blank as I do not know when either guitar was finished. The serial #s in question are 22662 and 25340. Could you correct this for me in the interest of accuracy.
Dave
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the updates.
Changes are done and will likely be visible in about 5 minutes.
Quote from: webberink on February 23, 2010, 01:16:35 PM
Hi ST.
Thanks for this important service and work. I posted my gits serial numbers early and the "Manufacture End Date" was posted wrong in each case. It should have been left blank as I do not know when either guitar was finished. The serial #s in question are 22662 and 25340. Could you correct this for me in the interest of accuracy.
Dave
Quote from: BluesMan1 on February 23, 2010, 12:09:46 PM
AZ, have never seen a serial # on the label, other than a hand-written one on a limited run. And, I've owned MANY Larrivees since '92 when I was first turned on to them. Pretty unusual? :?
Jeff
My wife's OM-03 is the same with the serial # on the label. In both cases the serial # is also on the neckblock, with an extra leading zero.
Mark
Hi ST,
I can`t seem to pm you here so if you would like to add this information to your Larrivee project feel free. I am listed in the spreadsheet under the forum name Nuggy and this should help fill in the blanks.
Your L-03R was completed on 11/13/2008 in our Vancouver factory. The back and sides are made of Indian Rosewood, top is Sitka Spruce, neck is Mahogany and fingerboard is Ebony.
Cheers
Hi Nuggy,
Got it and I've adjusted the info in the spreadsheet.
You need to have 10 posts here before you can send a private message.
Thanks for sharing your information!
Quote from: Nuggy on February 27, 2010, 01:33:15 AM
Hi ST,
I can`t seem to pm you here so if you would like to add this information to your Larrivee project feel free. I am listed in the spreadsheet under the forum name Nuggy and this should help fill in the blanks.
Your L-03R was completed on 11/13/2008 in our Vancouver factory. The back and sides are made of Indian Rosewood, top is Sitka Spruce, neck is Mahogany and fingerboard is Ebony.
Cheers
Hi Everybody,
Write to me here in this thread
If you want to write to me about his project - Please write to me here instead of a Private Message. It's easier if you write here so I don't have to manage my private messages.
Changes to a previous entry?
Please fill in the form (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers#Add_Your_Serial_Number) with the same serial number with all the information for your guitar (not just the changes).
Drop me a line here to tell me that you have done that
I will delete your previous entry for that guitar.
If you previous entry had the wrong serial number then please fill in the form (http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Larriv%C3%A9e_Serial_Numbers#Add_Your_Serial_Number) to create a new entry and write to me here to tell the entry with the wrong serial number.
I will delete your entry with the wrong serial number.
Thanks!
Hi all. Just entered my 2 Larrivees.
ST, my 1983 6-string's entire S/N is 072617. The first 2 digits are supposedly the model number yet L07 is not a choice on your list of models.
Same goes for my recent purchased 1985 12-string. It's entire S/N is 403656 so I entered "40" as the model number, yet I have never heard of a model 40 before. I must assume the first 2 digits are a model designation because of the date of manufacture. The last 4 numbers, "3656" fit in nicely with the others if you go by date so I'm sure that's correct.
Anybody know about a model 40 or what the "40" might indicate? Was there ever an L04 maybe? Has it got something to do with it being a 12-string?
Kurt
Hi Kurt,
I'll look at that in detail a litttle later tonight and fix it up.
Thanks for adding your information to the list.
ST
Quote from: ST on August 18, 2010, 07:06:46 PM
Hi Kurt,
I'll look at that in detail a litttle later tonight and fix it up.
Thanks for adding your information to the list.
ST
My pleasure
Kurt
Thanks for the spreadsheet ST.
:nana_guitar
You rock!
Billy