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Title: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 29, 2008, 01:33:54 AM
Since many Forum-ites and Larri-loyalists lament the fact that there are orphaned Larri-models... :crying: (i.e. OOs, OMVs)
as in out-of-production models...

What if enough Forum-ites commission Mr. Jean Claude Larrivee himself & his sons to produce...
a Special Order batch for a discontinued model...

say through 12th Fret, Guitar Adoptions, Notable, Trinity... as distributors
- that just about covers the continent and both sides of the border.

We'll stick to the RW-Spruce and HOG-Spruce variety only.


Please keep your comments brief - (1) specify Larri-MODEL ONLY you wish to order.... (2) Yes or No - do you think this is possible?  :? :?

ricky  :?    (IMHO - I think this is possible or at least worth trying... given enough number of us who are loyal Larri-fanatics)  :thumbsup

SERIOUSLY...
I guess this is a survey / vote  ===> so we can have our dream most cherished Larri to own... or you can tell me if I'm on GAS-delusion? :wacko:


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: L-fan on November 29, 2008, 02:01:02 AM
Great idea!   :bowdown:

Problem is, my dream larry orphan guitar(s) are probably not anybody elses's dream.  OK, I guess that's my problem.  But for the record, I would like a OO-60 with full sunburst finish with Maple back and sides.  It would look like this, 'cept it would be a OO:

http://guitaradoptions.com/store/product.php?productid=17727&cat=257&page=6

Or, I would love to see a maple-bodied OO in satin finish.  But I digress and am breaking the rules.  Apologies.  I will monitor this thread and see if any consensus can be had, and if I could "get on board" with the final choice(s), theoretical as this exercise probably is (but still worth it for the dreaming itself).



Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dale_I on November 29, 2008, 02:12:28 AM
There have been special commissioned "forum guitars" previously. My (fading) memory recalls the last attempt at finding enough people to purchase them spiraled downward fast when no one could agree on size, shape, woods, etc, etc, etc.

It is a doable deal, but you would have to get enough members focused and committed to one guitar. (and collect some money...  :doh)


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on November 29, 2008, 03:00:53 AM
 :laughin:

For the previous Forum Guitar, we discussed and voted for about a year without any firm concensus as to what model with what options we wanted. Jason at Notable Guitars stepped in, took charge, discussed options with Larrivee taking into account the most popular configurations that were within budget (under $1,000), and arrived at the 12fret OM03 with abalone rosette. Larrivee threw in the MOP logo at no upgrade cost. Once the decision was made for us, enough people put their money on the line to make it happen.

Qty 10 seems to be the minimum magic number.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tadol on November 29, 2008, 03:22:48 AM
I think this is a great idea, but rather than just re-making a guitar that has been discontinued, I think that an approach like happened with the Forum guitar would be nice - build something that uses parts from existing designs, but assembled in a way that isn't normally offered.

I would love to see a something like a specialized LSV - LS body ( slightly larger than 00, slightly smaller than OM ) with a cutaway, 1-3/4 neck, 12 fret to body, short scale, mahogany or sapele back/sides, traditional series fingerboard appointments, abalone rosette(??), satin finish -  Just for laughs, call it an LSV-03. That would be an interesting and unique instrument, and have many of the features I've found on different Larrivee models that I really have liked. And hopefully, without too much bling we can keep the cost down ( hopefully! )

Of course, I would also like a unique headstock inlay or design that would really set it off - I'd pay a bit more for that, but it may be a little over the top  :winkin:

But thats just my dream - I'd love to hear others - 

Tad


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2008, 03:38:26 AM
  OK this may work, cause we all know that $ talk. I am one of the 10 if we stay in "true" LS size. 4'' depth. Not 4 and 5/16 etc. just plain ole 4 at the end pin and we get smaller from there.
     12 fret for sure
      short scale would be nice
      REAL HOG
      even HOG TOP
      slot head
      (modification)extra thin gloss finish :ohmy:

                Oh, forget it... just look at a 00-50MT and make it a little bit bigger. NO BLING, just a great little player.
    One other little item, if this really happens. Lets ask JCL if he would like to surprise us with a different headstock Logo. Not an eagle or something, I mean the Larrivee Logo. I like the one he uses now, but maybe he would like to do something in his own script or whatever. I think that would be pretty cool myself.



Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 29, 2008, 04:13:56 AM
Just to keep it simple... let's start quoting from this summary:

LSV-03  (4" depth - the Orig first edition LS size) in 03R and 03MT;    1 3/4 nut; short-scale, 12fret-to-body    (no more OM for me, if this comes true)


Tonewood: 
Mahogany b&s Hog Top; (Tad, Danny)        OR                   RW-Spruce   (Ricky,...)   (If 10 magic number to special order: 5 hog, 5 RW - count me in)
Headstock - JCL-designed Forum Special --->>>> 510-Gotoh Tuners (is this bling?)
Binding - Maple
Bracing - if JCL can surprise us to make this LSV-03 Forum LTD  (Adirondack bracing? scalloped? Whatever will make top vibrate MAX)
Finish - very thin Glossy

Ltd Qty 10 minimum ==> 5 hog, 5 RW  ???

Price - Under 1000 USD; (already 1400 CDN) No Bling:


I appeal to the practical sense that have influenced and impressed me about Forum-Larri-owners.

Let's make this a WORKING NO-NONSENSE PLAY-IT-ALL-THE-TIME GO-TO Guitar...   
No Bling... No Frills...    but with understated elegance & an OUT-OF-THIS-WORLD sound.  :nana_guitar

Holding off any other plans for next Larri-purchase...

ricky  :smile:


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2008, 04:25:31 AM
  I think this will be closer to 2K than 1. But you are the driver so let's go and see what's around the corner.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on November 29, 2008, 01:53:44 PM
  I think this will be closer to 2K than 1. But you are the driver so let's go and see what's around the corner.

Prices have gone up considerably since the first Forum Guitar was done at $1,000. I doubt we will ever see that price again for anything except a parlor guitar or ukele.

Perhaps something like the D40's that were done for Long&McQuade, except in an LS size would be in the ball park cost wise, as well as something unusual enough to attract 10+ buyers. Would the use of sapele instead of mahogany be acceptable to potential buyers? What about Silver Oak or some other uncommon wood?


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 29, 2008, 02:28:36 PM
Danny & Randy,

In light of the falling Canadian dollar against the USD - I personally would like to keep the cost around the 03 price range. I guess with Larrivee's 15% price hike, it would be around $1500 USD.

So, IF it's the model LSV-03... with orig dimensions, 4" depth

Tonewood - anything - Sapele or whatever unusual wood as Randy suggests to draw more interest

The rest of the guitar is stock 03 design
(satin finish, maybe just numbered and signed by JCL on the label, ebony buttons max).


The only other orphaned models I'm aware of are the: Jumbos, OO, C-series   florentine cutaways and of course soon to be orphaned - LSV

Warmly,

ricky


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tadol on November 29, 2008, 06:01:03 PM
That would be pretty nice -  I would be inclined to let the Jean or Matthew provide some feedback on the project. Who knows, they may have something kicking around that is only enough for 10 or so instruments, and they might have some ideas about design/binding/inlay that are different from what we've seen before. Silver Oak, or maybe something really different, myrtle or claro walnut?  If we can get Jean intrigued, who knows what he might be willing to put together!  Tad


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tuffythepug on November 29, 2008, 06:19:10 PM
Ok as long as we're in "dream mode" here.......  I'll throw this one out for consideration


 How about a 00 size with 03 appointments.    Make it just like the 03 series but make it a 12 fretter with a tasteful abalone rosette and a special "forum guitar" label inside signed by Jean.
Make it an all hog or, if price would be better, all sapele.   Improved tuners and some sort of special inlay at the 12th fret....such as a  "JCL" in silver or mop.
Plus, and this is critical, set aside at least three in lefty version (right Bluesman67 and Bhika ?)

I'll take one.

tuffythepug


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dale_I on November 29, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Just rolling this around in my head...

I would think taking the "most common" road as far as wood configurations would be least expensive. Maybe keep the tops Spruce, but offer 5 hog back and 5 RW back, as rpm60912 first suggested. My preference would be RW, and you could probably count me in. I like the LSV, I like the 12 fret short scale, and for the head stock logo I was thinking about Jeans signature in MOP???  Micro dot fret board with whatever binding and rosette is simple and easy for them. Depends slot head would be cool, but might add cost. We could ask and just submit to the lesser expensive of slot or peg head. I would definately be a gloss fan if possible. Since these would more than likely be made in So Cal, they are better set up for gloss anyway. If we could keep it $1000 to $1200 (allows 20%, 15% standard hike and 5% for good measure).

Basically, a LSV-03 gloss finish short scale with signature logo. Not much bling to keep costs down but gloss and specialized logo to make it custom enough that it truly is a special run.

Wow... this is already much further along than the last time.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2008, 06:59:43 PM
Ok as long as we're in "dream mode" here.......  I'll throw this one out for consideration


 How about a 00 size with 03 appointments.    Make it just like the 03 series but make it a 12 fretter with a tasteful abalone rosette and a special "forum guitar" label inside signed by Jean.
Make it an all hog or, if price would be better, all sapele.   Improved tuners and some sort of special inlay at the 12th fret....such as a  "JCL" in silver or mop.
Plus, and this is critical, set aside at least three in lefty version (right Bluesman67 and Bhika ?)

I'll take one.

tuffythepug
 That sounds good. But what if the inlay on the headstock was "Jean". He used to sign the labels that way awhile back and a unique Logo would be exceptional I think. btw he told me he did not care for the JCL logo on the anniversary git. I asked him why and he said , because it's my name. So he may not care to do anything like this.
               When some of the first labels were made they spelled his name John and he signed those John. I'd like to see a picture of that label if anyone has one.                 Danny


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: strawintogold on November 29, 2008, 07:05:48 PM
I'm in if it's a LSV or LV even, but I'd require a Satin Finish and no shiny stuff or sea animal pieces.

holly


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2008, 07:24:52 PM
I'm in if it's a LSV or LV even, but I'd require a Satin Finish and no shiny stuff or sea animal pieces.

holly
  Yea, we could just gloss em ourselves if we wanted to. It's got to be the LS size :thumbsup though (PLEASE)


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: strawintogold on November 29, 2008, 07:36:14 PM
Ok, I will side with you in LS solidarity!

holly


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: L-fan on November 29, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
Ok as long as we're in "dream mode" here.......  I'll throw this one out for consideration


 How about a 00 size with 03 appointments.    Make it just like the 03 series but make it a 12 fretter with a tasteful abalone rosette and a special "forum guitar" label inside signed by Jean.
Make it an all hog or, if price would be better, all sapele.   Improved tuners and some sort of special inlay at the 12th fret....such as a  "JCL" in silver or mop.
Plus, and this is critical, set aside at least three in lefty version (right Bluesman67 and Bhika ?)

I'll take one.

tuffythepug

This is more what I would lean toward.  OO with 03 appointments, maybe an abalone rosette snuck in there for good measure.  I would love sitka/maple for some true blues spank, but that does not seem to appeal to anyone but me.  Take a look at what JCL did for 12th fret in 2008 - very classy, with upgraded appointments just right (tuners, bridge, etc.).  I'm biased on these, as I bought one.

http://www.12fret.com/new/Larrivee_2008_Twelfth_Fret_Limited_Edition_OM-03R_pg.html

However, the 12th Fret has a very special and long-standing relationship with Larrivee, so they would do stuff for them that they might not do for anybody else.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2008, 08:28:02 PM
  LS, CS. 00 just in that small body size :thumbsup


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dotneck on November 30, 2008, 03:29:50 AM
I'd like a 00 slothead. 05 appointments. we already did an 03 grade forum guitar...this one should be upgraded a little bit to make it special. choice of hog or rosewood. maybe cocobolo. no sapele.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on November 30, 2008, 04:03:39 AM
00-03 would be perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe.. hog top????????????  :laughin:

00-03, with no bling.. just poor and humble looking guitar


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2008, 04:17:58 AM
00-03 would be perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe.. hog top????????????  :laughin:

00-03, with no bling.. just poor and humble looking guitar
  That's about what I have been saying or trying to say, though I would rather it was a LS-03 or LSV-03, no bling, not even the Larrivee Logo on the head stock, but maybe if the JCL would agree, just "Jean".
          And for me, for what it's worth, no tonewoods of modern status, just some hog, and maybe hog top as has been said.
           WTB: LS-03 0r 05.... 00-03? or 00-05... CS in hog...satin or gloss... HOG top slot head is a plus (00-50MT)
                          Cowgirlie has a 00-50MT but she hasn't said much about it


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: limnephilidae on November 30, 2008, 05:29:22 AM
Body/Tonewoods:
I'm totally in for an LSV-03 or LS-03 with a sitka top and a rosewood or hog/sapele back. No bling please to keep the cost down. I would also go fairly crazy for a cedar top but I'm not sure if this would increase costs or decrease costs based on Larrivee's supply situation. Please do not count me in for a sapele/hog top.

Bling:
The most bling I would care to see would be the Larrivee logo in MOP, but I really don't care either way.

Oddities:
I have one more suggestion to make: Regardless of the tonewoods, how does everyone feel about the classic rosewood overlay on the headstock? The one where you could see the grain?
Like so: http://www.12fret.com/used/LarriveeOM05n19910.jpg
I'm close enough to the 12th fret to help if someone needs an errand-boy. :)

Finally, what kind of critical mass do we need to make this happen? If we get a rough consensus of 10-12 people, we should approach someone in Larrivee or David Wren at the 12th fret. Who organized the last forum guitar build? Would it help if we had a deposit system ($$$ talks)?


Eagerly awaiting some news,

Adam


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 30, 2008, 05:59:02 AM
We have exactly 10 persons who are interested. Bottom line of course is if we can come up with the money: 1000-1500 USD roughly.

The vast majority want:  03 Satin, hog or rw --- maybe whatever Jean or Matt may have stashed away enough for 10 gits; headstock with Jean MOP (whatever m.o.p. means - please educate me - is that mother of pearl? I think so huh... duh... :wacko:).
12-fret to body, short scale

We need to resolve this:

LSV
1. danny dependan
2. adam limnephildae
3. ricky
4. tad
5. dale
6. holly strawingold

OO
1. es-335
2. L-fan
3. Tuffy (and 2 other lefties?) that would push total to 12 guitars possibly
4. Dotneck

Can the OO people switch to LSV?   If we so, we may have something solid here.

Randy says Forum guitar has been done before.... so hopefully, Lord willing, this will become a reality.  If we have ONE MODEL.


LSV-03 so far has the majority.


Danny.... do you have access to Jean? You met him right?  Can you be the liaison person?   I'm next province to Matt - Vanc - Edm 12hr drive.


Our best chance --- The 12Fret folks of Toronto may make this possible - because of their long-standing good relationship with Larrivee.

Again... at least 10 people must agree to ONE MODEL BODY and come up with MONEY DOWN for DEPOSIT.

ricky  :smile:



Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on November 30, 2008, 06:15:15 AM
working with 12fret would be AMAZING!!

since I am in Canada.. it'd work out much easier for me TOO!! :)

I'd settle for an LS.. but no cutaway please!!  :crying:

12fret joint(if not its okay too!!)  or short scale 24-3/4" Hog top LS.. would that be possible??


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2008, 06:34:47 AM
  Matthew is in Oxnard and John is in Vancouver. JCL is in Oxnard mostly if he is not traveling, working.
I have no way of speaking with Matt or Jean that is any different than you Ricky. Just call the Yarnell Place office or e-mail them.
   They were so busy recently that I don't know when they could do this for us if it works. I think a 03 would be built in Canada so it may have a better chance of getting through faster at this point in time.
   I think once we have a consensus we just have one of the dealers take it from there. Maybe Jim at Trinity would like a go at it this time. It doesn't matter whether we are in Canada or the U.S. as forumites or where the dealer is located.
                What matters is can this really be done. I am ready and have the cash put aside.
 I think this thread should be stopped at this point and a new one started on "FORUM GUITAR" 2008. So that more members are aware this is happening and can have a chance to totally mess this deal up with 99 more opinions :tongue:
                 Seriously, more should have an opportunity to join in. BUT personally I hope we can keep the small body or I am out (sorry).      Thanks Ricky, I knew you would be good for the forum...And you still don't even have a Larrivee :laughin:
 


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on November 30, 2008, 06:40:46 AM

Seriously, more should have an opportunity to join in. BUT personally I hope we can keep the small body or I am out (sorry).      Thanks Ricky, I knew you would be good for the forum...And you still don't even have a Larrivee :laughin:
 

I am totally with you on the small body thing!!

LS or 00 would be perfect.. and now that i think of it I'd be pretty happy with the LS body.. but NO CUTAWAY!  :thumbsup

LS body
12fret joint
short scale 24-3/4"
possibly HOG top
NO BLINGS!


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2008, 06:52:37 AM
I am totally with you on the small body thing!!

LS or 00 would be perfect.. and now that i think of it I'd be pretty happy with the LS body.. but NO CUTAWAY!  :thumbsup

LS body
12fret joint
short scale 24-3/4"
possibly HOG top
NO BLINGS!

     I am willing to go LS or LSV or OO...It's all good to me. You know when I spoke to JCL on the radio interview he had with musicrowshow, this was the guitar I brought up to him. Just like you have spec'd out. But he said they were just to busy filling orders for the new models C , electric, and the mandos were taking away from the git line up as well.
                  I will be very surprised if this actually goes through. Even the LSV-11 is not being made anymore. So it's the Parlor and then jump to the OM. Which to most folks is a "small git" but my Martin OM-21 is smaller and is closer to an LS, It was the same in many ways as my 2006 LSV-11, but my 2008 LSV-11 model was larger.
                  So we shall see.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 30, 2008, 06:57:37 AM
I am totally with you on the small body thing!!

LS or 00 would be perfect.. and now that i think of it I'd be pretty happy with the LS body.. but NO CUTAWAY!  :thumbsup

LS body
12fret joint
short scale 24-3/4"
possibly HOG top
NO BLINGS!

Okay... Jeff... you would be #7 on LSV-03 list.... you'll have to talk to the rest about non-cutaway... I'm okay with plain ol' LS too.

Danny, I'm with you on the small body... or I'm out as well.... I thought the Larrivee sons were all in Vanc (John only huh?)... Matt in OxCal... ok.

Others who said they want LSV (venetian cutaway)... if we go with LS as Jeff desires... a non-cutaway will be cheaper... (we can go glossy)


I can try emailing Larrivee... but we must have 10 solid money down committed buyers.

IF we end this thread... we need to be solid on one model...  LSV-03     or    LS-03   .... that's it.   Tonewood & other specs final.     We would be like... the "Board" making a decision for everyone Forumites either buy or not.

ricky...  so far Danny and I have money set aside to make this a go. Need to hear from others please.





Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2008, 07:07:19 AM

                      Well that's a backbone!
"IF we end this thread... we need to be solid on one model...  LSV-03     or    LS-03   .... that's it.   Tonewood & other specs final.     We would be like... the "Board" making a decision for everyone Forumites either buy or not."
         
              I think it would be better to have a dealer involved, but we can get some more input from others and see how it goes. It would be a cool deal to make it a forum git.

              I'm fine with no cutaway if that's a big deal for others, Hog is done so nicely by Larrivee it would look the best, even with no bling. 00 or LS is like a coin with 2 sides for me. Slothead would sure be the "bling'' I would like. They just strike me as a cool look. We'll see.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on November 30, 2008, 07:16:08 AM
When the other LSV, LS buyers wake up later today... and read this... are you willing to switch to OO ???

So far, it sounds like, there would be a dead-heat between OO or LS (which I favor).

MT - hog top, B&S    and    some RW fans.


3 Things must happen:

1. Forumites agree on ONE MODEL and money deposited to Dealer.
2. Larrivee (JCL & Factory) agree.
3. Identify Dealer... 12th Fret likely

ricky  :smile:   


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dale_I on November 30, 2008, 07:40:15 AM
I believe Jim handled the last forum guitar. I'm sure he would be on board to get this going as well. I might suggest limiting any of us contacting anyone at Larrivee since there is a MUCH higher chance of it going through with a single point person.

The item to discuss is price. And, this is where the last consensus broke down. Some didn't mind spending more, some wanted to spend less. If price is going to be a factor, as much as I know some of you love it, items like slot heads and mahogany tops are going to increase the price. So will a specialty headstock design.

However, IMHO, it should be different enough from a stocked item to identify it as special. So, there should be some kind of balance to achieve. I think everyone is being pretty good about mixing some features from current models to come up with something that is not currently offered but still easy for them to push through (no specail tooling).

Not to confuse things too much, but since the C's are back, what about a cut-away but instead of the V (venetian style), going with the C (florentine)??? The one thing I think they could probably do without too much hassle or extra money is mix some hog backs with some RW backs in the production. I'm hoping anyway... I'm a definate RW sound player.

With a florentine, it may be configured as a CS-03 and CS-03R



Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: L-fan on November 30, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
One thing I would like to bring up is that this thread was just started two days ago, and we are already trying to nail down the final config ASAP.  Perhaps we are rushing this just a bit?  If the last forum guitar concept was batted about for almost a year, this time it seems this may not be including enough other folks in the process.  But then again, maybe too many chefs would spoil the soup?   :?

I think this is a great idea, however I do not have money set aside for it.  That being said, I could be inspired to sell some stuff to be able to participate in this, but the thing is, I would need to be inspired to do so, which would mean before I commit $$, I would need to know the final config and price.  Kind of a chicken and egg thing here.

Anyway, keep up the great work guys and gals, and I will continue to watch how this shakes out.   :nana_guitar


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: iDavid on November 30, 2008, 01:46:53 PM
If you go for a small body hog top, then I'm in too.

david


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: strawintogold on November 30, 2008, 01:47:28 PM
There are a couple things that would be a deal breaker for me. A pointy cutaway (can never recall of that's F or C), gloss finish and smaller than an LSV or OM. I have enough (ha) OM guitars at this point and Parlors, while lovely, seem like they have a three inch long neck to me.

Slotted headstocks don't wow me, but that's not a biggie. I don't want it any fancier than my OM 03's. I agree that this is going a bit fast. Two points, the chances of getting anyone to manufacture anything are much better after Christmas. Most folks will (hopefully) have more disposable income after Christmas as well. Think Spring.

holly


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dotneck on November 30, 2008, 01:59:38 PM
Jason at Notable ordered the original forum guitar.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on November 30, 2008, 02:44:51 PM
The next 2 months are going to be very busy for Larrivee. The California NAMM show is January 15th. Typically this is where new models are introduced as well as being the primary sales event for the company. I suggest firming up the model specs and getting people on board and perhaps openeing discussions with a dealer to act as intermediary for the project. Then moving forward once NAMM is over. Let a willing dealer be the interface into Larrivee instead of trying to contact Jean directly.

There were 2 options offered in the case of the first Forum Guitar, 1. either sitka or mahogany top (same price) 2. Premium archtop case (extra cost). 


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: limnephilidae on November 30, 2008, 04:57:20 PM
When the other LSV, LS buyers wake up later today... and read this... are you willing to switch to OO ???

So far, it sounds like, there would be a dead-heat between OO or LS (which I favor).

MT - hog top, B&S    and    some RW fans.


3 Things must happen:

1. Forumites agree on ONE MODEL and money deposited to Dealer.
2. Larrivee (JCL & Factory) agree.
3. Identify Dealer... 12th Fret likely

ricky  :smile:   

With regards to the model, I think we're seeing a lot more LS than 00 and we may need to call it very soon. Do we really need a venetian cutaway? I would be fine with it but I think the costs would be driven up. Most people on this thread expressed a desire to keep the cost down.

With regards to the B&S, I'm fine with whatever back & sides you folks prefer or whatever alternative wood you want to stick on there. If I had a choice, I would go with rosewood. Is this a possible variation in 6 of the 12 models? For example, 6 would be silver oak and 6 would be rosewood?

With regards to the top, I would like it to be spruce (sitka, italian, adi, whatever). I'm sure some good sitka has the tonal balance to satisfy everyone's needs. The hog top is nice but at this point I would want a versatile smaller body since it would be my only shot at an LS for a while; hog top won't do that for me. All the same, it seems that quite a few of are eager for a hog top so I think that this factor, more than the back and sides, should what differentiates the first 6 from the second 6.

If folks can get on board the LS train then I think we might have something here.

Cheers,

Adam


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: L-fan on November 30, 2008, 05:53:16 PM
FYI, pictures of a fancy-pantsy LS-10 (click on images tab):

http://guitaradoptions.com/store/product.php?productid=18817&cat=257&page=3


I offer this because if you are like me, you have never seen an LS in person, let alone held one or heard one.  They do look pretty sweet to me (I love the no pick guard look).


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on November 30, 2008, 06:35:46 PM
FYI, pictures of a fancy-pantsy LS-10 (click on images tab):

http://guitaradoptions.com/store/product.php?productid=18817&cat=257&page=3


I offer this because if you are like me, you have never seen an LS in person, let alone held one or heard one.  They do look pretty sweet to me (I love the no pick guard look).

I have personally played LS once, very briefly. pretty comfy to play and sweet sounding.




Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tadol on November 30, 2008, 07:42:06 PM
LS bling - old school - Tad

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Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tadol on November 30, 2008, 08:01:07 PM
LS size comparisons -   00 in LS case, and LS and OO back to back with OM -

I'm posting these because I suggested the LS size - I just got this back from the repairman, and so far really like the size alot. Slightly smaller than OM, but fair bit bigger than 00, body slightly thinner and not as "voluptuous" as an OM. Excellent recliner size with very decent bass response. This one is rosewood, but a mahogany would be very nice as well.

I agree we need to wait until after Xmas before we go too far, but I am happy to see that others are resonding positively. I am a second-hand recipient of a forum guitar, and I have to say that I am extremely glad that others stepped up and committed to a project that must have taken a fair bit of effort to put together. I am lucky that someone decided that gas was taking them somewhere else, and I got an opportunity to own a forum guitar.

I will commit to whatever the group decides, with the understanding  that it will be something special, and even if it is not everything I wanted, it will be for somebody else in a year or two, and I know they will appreciate it even more. But I have a feeling that if it happens, I'll be keeping it.

I hope we can interest Jean, or someone close, in spending a little of their time to make this project happen and build something a little special. And I hope we can interest a dealer/distributor to act as our intermediary without needing too much overhead -

Tad

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Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: ark on November 30, 2008, 09:39:18 PM
  For comparison purposes, here are some specifications I found on what I assume is an old website ( http://www.dpguitars.com/Specifications.html)

Larrivιe & Cutaway Body Guitars (designated L and C)
•   16" lower bout
•   11 5/8" upper bout
•   10 3/8" waiste
•   20 1/4" length
•   4" maximum depth (?? Listed as 4.75" on the Larrivee site)
•   25 1/2" scale
Larrivιe Small Body & Small Cutaway Guitars (designated LS and CS)
•   15" lower bout
•   11" upper bout
•   9 3/4" waiste
•   19 1/2" length
•   4" maximum depth
•   25 1/2" scale
Orchestra Model Guitars (designated OM)
•   15 3/8" lower bout
•   11 5/8" upper bout
•   9 1/2" waiste
•   19 3/8" length
•   4" maximum depth
•   25 1/2" scale
Double 0 Guitars (designated 00)
•   12 frets to the body
•   14" lower bout
•   10" upper bout
•   8 1/4" waiste
•   19 1/8" length
•   4" maximum depth
•   25 1/2" scale

For me,  short scale and 12 frets to the body are more important than OO vs LS.

Al


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on November 30, 2008, 10:14:22 PM
I hope this works out

I am glad that most people want: 12fret joint, shortscare and small body


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: limnephilidae on November 30, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
I hope this works out

I am glad that most people want: 12fret joint, shortscare and small body

I'm flexible on the scale but I too would like to see a short scale with a 12 fret. I'm in regardless though.

I can't get used to anything but the 1"3/4 nut so I hope everyone is thinking the same thing.

I think this thread is going to get busy before Christmas (I'm no help  :laughin: ). Maybe in a few more posts we can restart the thread with the current consensus, participants, and a link back to this brainstorming thread.

Cheers,

Adam


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: jrdavies on November 30, 2008, 11:24:46 PM

How about a 00 with a deep body similar to the Martin deep body 00 or a Santa Cruz H13?  This could be good compromize interms of sound between the standard 00 and the L series.  If Larrivee could be pursuaded to do this it would make the guitar unique.  I believe the Santa Cruz H13 tapers to 5" deep at the end pin. 





Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2008, 11:40:50 PM
How about a 00 with a deep body similar to the Martin deep body 00 or a Santa Cruz H13?  This could be good compromize interms of sound between the standard 00 and the L series.  If Larrivee could be pursuaded to do this it would make the guitar unique.  I believe the Santa Cruz H13 tapers to 5" deep at the end pin. 




                                                                               NO


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: limnephilidae on November 30, 2008, 11:51:47 PM
                                                                               NO

I'm with deadpan, that sounds really uncomfortable to me. I'm sold on the LS body type now that I've heard it (in rosewood). Besides, we were making progress with the consensus on the LS.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dotneck on December 01, 2008, 12:15:40 AM
How about a 00 with a deep body similar to the Martin deep body 00 or a Santa Cruz H13? 

An H13 has been on my list for about ten years....wish I could afford one. Needless to say that body style would make me happy.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dotneck on December 01, 2008, 12:17:04 AM
Besides, we were making progress with the consensus on the LS.

Not sure I agree with that either...there has just been limited input in the thread so far......


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
I'm with deadpan  
    :laughin:


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on December 01, 2008, 12:26:27 AM
I think we should stick to either LS or OO

H13 has been on my list forever, sure would love to get one, but this is a larrivee forum guitar.. isn't it?

These guitars will represent the forum and larrivee brand, which I think LS would be perferct...

plus having a custom shaped body would raise up the price, I would think...


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2008, 12:31:01 AM
I think we should stick to either LS or OO

H13 has been on my list forever, sure would love to get one, but this is a larrivee forum guitar.. isn't it?

These guitars will represent the forum and larrivee brand, which I think LS would be perferct...

plus having a custom shaped body would raise up the price, I would think...
                              deadpan says  YES


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on December 01, 2008, 12:33:52 AM
custom shaped body = new molds and likely other instruments of destruction = $$$$$


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2008, 12:37:48 AM
custom shaped body = new molds and likely other instruments of destruction = $$$$$
                   Randy would you like to start a new thread for us and link it to here as the original? If that's OK with Ricky.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on December 01, 2008, 01:22:14 AM
                   Randy would you like to start a new thread for us and link it to here as the original? If that's OK with Ricky.

ok. I created a new sticky thread at the top of this forum.

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=24009.0


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: bluesman67 on December 01, 2008, 02:43:22 AM
Lefty...yes
12-fret...yes
O3...yes
Herringbone rosette....yes
1 3/4" nut...yes
Slot Head...yes
upgraded tuners...yes

Can I hear a call for rosewood binding?


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: tuffythepug on December 01, 2008, 03:18:58 AM

What the hell.....let's throw in a sunburst too. :roll


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: es-335 on December 01, 2008, 03:23:55 AM
What the hell.....let's throw in a sunburst too. :roll


sunburst = $$$$$


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Dotneck on December 01, 2008, 04:20:49 AM
I love Larrivee's sunburst and think it would be cool on a limited edition forum guitar.

 :thumbsup


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: rpm60912 on December 01, 2008, 04:23:31 AM
I love Larrivee's sunburst and think it would be cool on a limited edition forum guitar.

 :thumbsup

Last I checked, sunburst is a $400-option......if this makes final specs, I imagine this may be offered as an OPTION.

ricky


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2008, 04:36:28 AM
Last I checked, sunburst is a $400-option......if this makes final specs, I imagine this may be offered as an OPTION.

ricky
                        Sunburst will not make it. Besides it would need to be total to be really special.


Title: Re: Orphaned Larris What If...
Post by: Randy_R on December 01, 2008, 05:02:05 AM
I'm going to lock this thread. please go to the Forum Guitar thread.