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Title: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: DaveyO on October 14, 2008, 12:09:23 AM
1.Santa Cruz Dpw
2. Collimgs D series , rosewood back and sides
3.Taylor 900 presentation series
4.Martin MMv or D28
5.Larrrivee Do3r all glossed.
dave


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: dermot on October 14, 2008, 01:05:27 AM
Ummmmmmmm... only five?

1) Paragon MJ "fingerstyle Ferrari" cedar over Zircotte (a twin to the guitar Rob built for a customer)

2) Webber roundbody softcutaway engelman over zircotte (a twin to the guitar David just built for himself)

3) Larrivee LSV11 red sitka over zircotte, & vine inlays

4) Martin D42S Adi over madi

5) Larrivee 0060 all Koa

that should do me for a while

d.







Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: teh on October 14, 2008, 01:47:09 AM
1) Birth year Martin - 1955
2) Leo Kottke Signature Model 12 String Taylor
3) Martin 0-16NY
4) Larrivee Baritone
5) Gretsch Chet Atkins



Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: L1D1 on October 14, 2008, 02:21:10 AM
Lol ...you guys grow up on Fords and Chevy's????


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: obe-wan on October 14, 2008, 03:01:16 AM
1. Larrivee 000-50.
2. Martin 00-18V.
3. Gibson ES-335 from the early 60's.
4. Early 60's Fender Strat (a real one).
5.'62 Fender Vibroverb. (again, a real one). Yeah, I know its an amp, but Ive gotta have something to plug those sweet guitars into!

Cheers, Scott.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Barefoot Rob on October 14, 2008, 03:28:13 AM
My old Larrivee OM10Koa...thats for sale now
My old Gibson Vintage AJ that I had to sell
Larrivee C05 made in Canada,so an old one
Morgan L05 style 12 string with a solid headstock and a 12 fret neck joint
My Old Larrivee OM03/12 string


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: pennerblue on October 14, 2008, 04:44:37 AM
A big honkin' Gibson Jumbo
Johnny Cash model Martin D-35 (long live the Man in Black)
Larrie SD-60
My L03R (first Larrie, which to me is priceless)
and...

any one of Pete Townsend's electrics.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: dave42 on October 14, 2008, 04:54:54 AM
Martin- D-42 w/Madagascar b/s, Italian spruce top
McAlister- Dread
McAlister- Concert
McAlister- Dread w/Large Soundhole
John Walker- ClarkFork


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: love2play21 on October 14, 2008, 06:22:43 AM
I'd really like a McPherson redwood/EIR MG4.5

Larriveé 00-60

natural finish american deluxe tele



My L-09 would be on my list if I didn't already have it



Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: tuffythepug on October 14, 2008, 07:12:11 AM
These aren't the most expensive by any means but getting the older ones  in a left-handed version would make them pretty rare


1957 Fender Strat  2-tone sunburst

30's  National Style "0" metal-bodied resonator

1967 Martin D-35 braz. sides and 3-pc. back

Gibson J-200  sunburst

Santa Cruz  H-13 

I am a man of simple tastes.   Nothing strange or exotic on my list.   If I had these added to my current guitars I'd be a very happy man.   Well...... I could use a '52 tele also   :whistling:

Tuffythepug


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: BenF on October 14, 2008, 10:40:29 AM
Lowden O35
Lowden O32 12 string
Martin D-45
Gibson ES 355
50s Fender Tele


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: hadden on October 14, 2008, 12:57:55 PM
In no order:

Larrivee LS -- regular scale/nut width
Santa Cruz D
Lowden F -- not sure which
Dermot Mcilroy -- one of the A models
Er, and maybe a nice old Martin. I've never played one. They are supposed to be good I hear! 


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Blue in VT on October 14, 2008, 01:32:20 PM
I'll take a crack at this....in no particular order!

Bashkin 00 12 fret Spruce over Madi
1930's Martin 00-18
1930's Gibson L-00
Tippin OM Carathian over Braz....I played this one at the Montreal Guitar show and almost wet myself....it was hard to even believe     the tone coming out of it...and it was gorgeous to boot!!
Santa Cruz Custom OM Adi over Mahogany...short scale

I guess that would keep me happy for awhile... :wink:.....Of course I would have to keep Mary Helen as well... :bowdown:

Blue



Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: ronmac on October 14, 2008, 06:21:48 PM
I'll have to get back to you...

First I will need to jet around the continent(s) and visit the top Luthiers and Dealers. If I have access to lots of money I am going to try before I buy.

I also suspect that becoming a rich sob will make me intolerant of any wait times. This will be one item I need to buy off the rack.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: J. Hunter on October 14, 2008, 08:14:39 PM
de Jonge 00 (ziricote with sapwood)
Laskin cypres-bodied/friction pegged flamenco guitar
Martin D-18
Larrivee OM-60
Avalon D-32 12-string


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: knowspicker on October 14, 2008, 10:19:04 PM
Here's my top five... at least it's the top five today.

Martin 0-45JB, Joan Baez Signature Model
Northwood 00-80R 12 Fret
Amalio Burguet 2M Cedar  [classical, just for good measure]
Larrivee LSV-11
CA Cargo


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: lyric_girl on October 14, 2008, 11:15:36 PM
Larrivee P09
R Taylor Style 1
Taylor 914
Weber Yellowstone F Style Mandolin (I know you guys said guitars, but I would definitely buy this mando if money were no object)
Lowden (something)


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: tikabear on October 15, 2008, 12:27:16 AM
1)  Olson SJ cutaway
2)  SCGC 000/PW
3)  Larrivee C09 (current production)
4)  Taylor GA5
5)  Jeff Beck Strat in Seafoam Green


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: mika on October 16, 2008, 07:27:54 PM
Probably start at a shop like Dream Guitars.  I'm sure I could find a couple there that I could live with.  Then add an old Martin D42 or D28 (or both).  Order a custom from Steve Grimes.  Probably look for an old Jumbo Gibson or an R.Taylor.  And I get to keep what I already have, right? 


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Dotneck on October 17, 2008, 11:59:09 AM
Santa Cruz H13
Huss & Dalton CM
Froggy Bottom H12
Goodall TR000s
A Kathy Wingert or Kim Walker Custom


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: wademp on October 17, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
A 50's early tele or nocaster
60's strat
A good old D-28
gold top les paul
dual humbucker tele


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Danny on October 17, 2008, 11:29:19 PM
                                         1930 Martin OM-45 Deluxe   ($200,000 plus)
                                         1934 Martin 000-45
                                         1936 Gibson Advanced Jumbo
                                         1938 Gibson J-200
                                         1945 Stromberg Master 400 Cutaway
 

                            If I had these I could sell them all and retire :whistling:
                            Or be a very happy player  :guitar


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: kwakatak on October 25, 2008, 01:15:06 AM
Martin HD-35
Martin D-21 Special
Larrivée LV-05
McKnight Deacon (Ziricote looks interesting as a back & side wood, but I have lots to learn about tops - lutz is a possibility)
Paragon 13-fret Sloped Dread (cocobolo/adirondack)

..that's just for starters. I recently played an R Taylor Style 1 with a redwood top and IIRC striped ebony back & sides. WOW!


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: saintandsinnerguy on October 29, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
#1  Norman Blake's D-28s 12-fret sunburst from the 1930's......don't think he has it anymore, but THAT is an amazing sounding guitar (search youtube...you'll see/hear it)
#2  Larrivee SD-50
#3  Collins Dred........not too picky which one, I'll take any of them.
#4  Goodall Traditional Dred.....oooh, sounds so nice
#5  Martin D-18 GE   (monster tone...and price)
#5b  Birthyear Martin D-28 (1967)....there's one in a shop in my town....VERY nice, but also almost 6 grand (sigh)

Right now though, I really like what I have.  I have a Czech build Furch/Stanford 12-fret dred on the big brown truck right now.........heard it on a video clip and she's a good 'un, and I got a reall y great deal on it.....great guy sold it to me too.  So that, with my all hog dred Larrivee, and my little parlor makes me pretty set.
BUT, if you want to give me anyone of the top 5 above, I'll gladly take them off of your hands.  :roll


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: BenF on October 29, 2008, 10:16:02 PM
Larrivee P09
R Taylor Style 1
Taylor 914
Weber Yellowstone F Style Mandolin (I know you guys said guitars, but I would definitely buy this mando if money were no object)
Lowden (something)

So you are starting at the top of the list then Lynda - wish I was making more progress with my list.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: mrkpower on October 30, 2008, 06:42:58 AM
1. the guitar was used by the Beatles
2.                    ditto          Elvis Presently
3. Martin D-100
4. Martin D-50
5. any guitars that I have ever played (priceless ... $ can't buy!!)


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: lyric_girl on November 07, 2008, 11:39:50 PM
So you are starting at the top of the list then Lynda - wish I was making more progress with my list.

Yeah well, with my Larrivee not paid off and a Rickenbacker coming in the next 10-16 months, that R Taylor is a LONG way away, unless I win the lottery or dump the husband and marry someone rich!


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on November 21, 2008, 11:45:24 AM
If money were no object? Ok - I know I'm cheatin' (kinda'), can I reduce to 5 per body size pleazzze?  Hmmm, I guess my answer would be different almost every time. I used to be a Dread-guy, in search of power, projection and volume.... I have however, adopted to the more response from a subtle touch, overall balance and more expressive nature of smaller bodies. Of course if money were no object I'd have probably owned Paul Heumiller's entire inventory!
Seriously though, it would be something like this:

1. Santa Cruz H-13 sunburst  :nice guitar:
2. Huss & Dalton 00-SP (12 Fret)
3. Martin OM28JM (John Mayer) or their OMC Fingerstyle 1 (Adirondack & Spanish Cedar back & sides)
4. Collings OM2 Varnish
5. Maingard GC (local boy....)

Dreads:
1. Martin D45 GE
2. Bozung Wise (Slope shoulder)
3. Bourgeois DB Signature (ultimate string-to-string balance)
4. Santa Cruz Tony Rice Professional
5. Merril C-18 or Martin CSN (Jerry Tollman)

Jumbo/0000:
1. Santa Cruz VJ (Slope Shoulder)
2. Gibson SJ200 Custom Montana
3. Martin HJ-38 Stefan Grossman
4. Larrivee J-05 (perhaps because it's no longer available!!!!)
5. Huss & Dalton DS 12 Brazilian (Slope Shoulder)

Somewhere in there would also have to be a Langejans GC, and an Olson SJ - Western Red Cedar and Brazilian. (yes, I'm an avid Keaggy fan)  How about that?
I'm waiting for my "Smoothtalker" (being built as we speak) by Mervyn Davis. Unlike anything you've ever seen (or heard) - see www.mervyndavisguitars.com for details. Still love my Larri's though.... :winkin:






Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on November 26, 2008, 09:35:41 PM
Zohn,wow that is a serious list!!...You really put some thought into it....Btw,I DO hope you are right about the Bourgeois DB Sig.I've just custom ordered one,in BRAZ.To be delivered some time in January.I pray it really is as good as I hope!

  I got a "lovely" D-03R a few weeks ago,and must admit to being very impressed.Very well constructed,nice "earthy" look with the satin finish,which kinda' gets you closer to the wood IMO.Sonically it simply sounded amazing,and regardless of asking price,it is a superb instrument.

  I was thinking of complimenting it with a D-18 Authentic(hog personality)as a second(different)Dred,but really did not think the Martin was "much" better than my Larry.It was better,but not enough to justify the price differential.Still,I remained curious as to what would be the next alternative Dred for me.I wanted two,but each slightly different "takes".

  So,I played the BRAZ,and felt "it" was just as legitimately different sounding compared to my EIR D-03R,as going with the Hog D-18A vs the D-03R.....

  As a Hog alternative(I love Rosewaood,but I've got to have a Hog,in one of my guitars) I'm ordering a 000-18 Authentic next week(that little guitar really sings)BUT in truthfulness I'm beginning to think virtually ALL Larrivees are sensational "buys".YES,there is better,but the differences are NOT huge,like the price differentials are.

  Just an opinion.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Randy_R on November 28, 2008, 12:22:10 AM
Here's my wish list.

1. Collings Winfield in brazilian rosewood
2. Larrivee D-60 Madagascar rosewood / Adirondack top
3. Larrivee D-50
4. Larrivee OOO-60 Brazilian
5. Larrivee L-10 Brazilian w/ Roselady headstock


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: jeremy3220 on November 28, 2008, 12:38:26 AM
#1  Norman Blake's D-28s 12-fret sunburst from the 1930's......don't think he has it anymore, but THAT is an amazing sounding guitar (search youtube...you'll see/hear it)


That guitar does sound great. If I didn't know it was a D-28 I would have swore it was a mahogany guitar because it's so dry and punchy sounding.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on November 28, 2008, 06:24:51 AM
Zohn,wow that is a serious list!!...You really put some thought into it....Btw,I DO hope you are right about the Bourgeois DB Sig.I've just custom ordered one,in BRAZ.To be delivered some time in January.I pray it really is as good as I hope!

  I got a "lovely" D-03R a few weeks ago,and must admit to being very impressed.Very well constructed,nice "earthy" look with the satin finish,which kinda' gets you closer to the wood IMO.Sonically it simply sounded amazing,and regardless of asking price,it is a superb instrument.

  I was thinking of complimenting it with a D-18 Authentic(hog personality)as a second(different)Dred,but really did not think the Martin was "much" better than my Larry.It was better,but not enough to justify the price differential.Still,I remained curious as to what would be the next alternative Dred for me.I wanted two,but each slightly different "takes".

  So,I played the BRAZ,and felt "it" was just as legitimately different sounding compared to my EIR D-03R,as going with the Hog D-18A vs the D-03R.....

  As a Hog alternative(I love Rosewaood,but I've got to have a Hog,in one of my guitars) I'm ordering a 000-18 Authentic next week(that little guitar really sings)BUT in truthfulness I'm beginning to think virtually ALL Larrivees are sensational "buys".YES,there is better,but the differences are NOT huge,like the price differentials are.

  Just an opinion.

Thanks for your view. I notice you do some research yourself, and I trust a lot of "Physical sampling" as well? (you lucky dawg!!!!!) I think you're spot-on with the Bourgeois  :+1:. Usually the designation for the Braz models is "150". It is common knowledge that the best value for money is Bourgeois (relatively speaking - and by no means "cheap") He is renowned for the even balance, and awesome power he gets from his guitars. Also consistent signature sound because of the fact that he thickness his tops to the desired stiffness, rather than a standard thickness. He also measures stiffness of his bracing before he matches them to a top. Apparently his guitars are unique in that they sound "broken in" right out of the box. You can SURELY expect to get a MONSTER - I'll put my name on it!!! He also uses Waverly machines on all his models - unlike Martin who uses them only on their most expensive models. That will surely be a keeper, please enlighten us by sending photos when you get it.
You seem to be fortunate to afford virtually any guitar when you consider the Martin Authentic series. I personally think they're totally overpriced, and engaged in the grips of the latest "buzz" nl. hide glue, authentic T-neck support system, and "built like they used to". What a load of junk! Their Golden Era hogs are commendable though. If you want a (Hog) "Martin" that has been built like a pre-war all along, go for a Merril or Roy Noble, true vintage "Gibsons" are being built by SCGC, John Walker, and Chris Bozung. When looking at 000's, also consider Huss & Dalton, and once again SCGC -they won't disappoint. In all body sizes, you can always check out Bill Collings as well - very highly recommended. And I like quoting my local Larrivee dealer: "I've sold them all, but have yet to find a bad Larrivee". :thumbsup


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: ronmac on November 28, 2008, 10:45:29 AM
Zohn, a few corrections regarding the information you posted o Bourgeois...

BRW can be found on most of his model series, not just the 150s

Dana uses Gotoh 510 on sevveral of his guitars, although Waverly is standard on many

I wouldn't say that Dana's guitars sound "broken in" when they are new. They certainly sound great, but they do "open up" over the course of time, just like any other well built, solid wood instrument.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on November 28, 2008, 12:28:50 PM
Zohn, a few corrections regarding the information you posted o Bourgeois...

BRW can be found on most of his model series, not just the 150s

Dana uses Gotoh 510 on sevveral of his guitars, although Waverly is standard on many

I wouldn't say that Dana's guitars sound "broken in" when they are new. They certainly sound great, but they do "open up" over the course of time, just like any other well built, solid wood instrument.

Thank you Ronmac - if you look at my post again, you'll see I said "usually" meaning "regular" or "standard" for the model range or series.  I believe it is also supplied on custom models like found on any other brand's model range. I doubt it though you'll find BRW on a Bryan Sutton Banjo Killer, or a Country boy.
Waverlies are indeed supplied standard, and you could opt for any other, I didn't know the 510's come standard as well - in which model is that?
I never said they "are" broken in, I said "They sound broken in"  meaning relative to or compared to an equivalent model from another maker. (with specific reference to the Martin D28- Marquis-class)
Thank you for your input, are you a Bourgeois owner?  :wave


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: ronmac on November 28, 2008, 01:15:53 PM
Hello , not meaning to bust your @#$%, just want to keep the record clean :thumbsup

Yes, I own a couple of Bourgeois, a 1997 JOMC Deluxe (Bearclaw Sitka over Curly Claro Walnut) and a 2007 DBJC (Redwood over EIR, with Gotoh 510s). Dana makes wonderful instruments, and is not afraid to try new designs or wood combination.


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on November 28, 2008, 01:33:28 PM
Hello , not meaning to bust your @#$%, just want to keep the record clean :thumbsup

Yes, I own a couple of Bourgeois, a 1997 JOMC Deluxe (Bearclaw Sitka over Curly Claro Walnut) and a 2007 DBJC (Redwood over EIR, with Gotoh 510s). Dana makes wonderful instruments, and is not afraid to try new designs or wood combination.

Wow, the JOM  :nice guitar: is on my "no object" list as well - what is the bearclaw/Claro like? I believe that  would be the versatile equivalent to the L-body, with way much more response?
I don't know Redwood either, I believe it looks similar to Cedar - is it like an intermediate topwood between Spruce and Cedar (soundwise)?


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: strawintogold on November 28, 2008, 02:21:01 PM
I would have five differant guitars made just for ME by differant luthiers. Now that would be awesome.

holly


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: es-335 on November 28, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
acoustic..
Everybody's dream SCGC H13....
Gibson J200
Gibson J45
Gibson Hummingbird
Martin D28

Electric
Gibson 59 LP..
Gibson 56 Goldtop with P90
Gibson ES-335
Fender 60 Strat...
Fender 51 nocaster



Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on December 01, 2008, 12:08:20 PM
Hello , not meaning to bust your @#$%, just want to keep the record clean :thumbsup

Yes, I own a couple of Bourgeois, a 1997 JOMC Deluxe (Bearclaw Sitka over Curly Claro Walnut) and a 2007 DBJC (Redwood over EIR, with Gotoh 510s). Dana makes wonderful instruments, and is not afraid to try new designs or wood combination.

Hi Ronmac, was the DBJC a custom, More specific-was it ordered specially with the Gotohs?


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: ronmac on December 01, 2008, 12:22:45 PM
Hi Zohn, It was a standard, off-the-rack guitar, as shown in this picture:


Here is a link to the Bourgeois site

http://www.pantheonguitars.com/guitars/guitars_PRO-dbjumbo.htm


...and the commentary for this model

Quote
  The DB Jumbo Cutaway.   With its "small", 16" jumbo outline, the Bourgeois DB Jumbo Cutaway combines Indian Rosewood and a Redwood  top to produce a full, rich tonal palette.  The medium-wide 1/34" nut and 2 5/16" belly bridge combined with a powerful 25.5" scale make this guitar an excellent choice for the hardcore fingerstyle guitarist.  The Bourgeois Snakehead headstock with ebony veneer  is subtly accented by a tiny white pinstripe. This look is followed through on the neck and body through a subtle black binding with tiny white pinstripe.  The ebony fingerboard has no inlay. Modern Gotoh 510 Gold tuners round off the appointments of this understated, elegant and  powerful guitar.   Here's what Dana has to say about this guitar: 

"In designing the DBJC, I wanted to develop a big guitar with a powerful, yet balanced voice for a serious fingerstyle player with a light to medium touch. I started with a large top, having a round, mechanically efficient lower bout capable of generating power and volume.  Balance is difficult to achieve in large guitars, but absolutely critical to fingerstyle players. To address this issue, the DBJC employs medium-depth sides, several subtle bracing modifications, and an approach to voicing that differs from our other models.  The redwood top provides a quick attack, ringing highs and long sustain;  Indian rosewood is used on the back and sides for warmth and fullness of tone.  I completed the package with fingerstyle-friendly string dimensions of a 1 3/4" nut and 2 5/16" bridge spacing." 

(http://www.pantheonguitars.com/images_4/4206%20back_big.jpg)


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on December 01, 2008, 01:02:38 PM
Hi Zohn, It was a standard, off-the-rack guitar, as shown in this picture:


Here is a link to the Bourgeois site

http://www.pantheonguitars.com/guitars/guitars_PRO-dbjumbo.htm


...and the commentary for this model

:nice guitar: - wow!! a beauty!! is that tonewood EIR though? doesn't look like it? - have you got a pic of the top as well please? - I don't really know what redwood looks like (besides Justin's terrific sinker). - Sorry, I should've gone to the web site first. I now realize the photo is from the web site, and in fact walnut. Still a "looker" though!!! What are the sound qualities of walnut like?


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 06, 2008, 05:19:20 AM
Zohn,it's not that I have all that much moola,to afford these few gits I am about to get.I've ordered a Braz Bourgeois "DB-Sig" and want two small bodies,in a 000,and OM.Each with different woods.Then that's it!!For a long time!!I do currently have the Larri D-03R,which I like very much-:)

  The thing is,I'd sold some audio stuff,I've had for years,along with an extensive LP collection(which apparently were saught after by vinyl fanatics).That allows for the "final four" in gits,with the rest going to home improvements.I'm proud of myself for setting this up,and keeping the little lady happy,in lieu of the pricey gits.......Not an easy task to pull off,but I've played it to perfection  :bgrin:

  Btw,I really was quite impressed with the sonic atributes of the 000-18A.Crisp,clean,articulate! and quite powerful.!You may be understating things a little about these models.Yet,who could argue with your choices?All superb!

  By the time you read this,I'll have gone for the 000-18A,and I'm leaning towards a Martin OM-28 Marquis Madi,with a tiny custom addition of "bling",in adding a Style 45 Rosette,and Koa binding....BUT for 1200 bucks less I could easily "go" for the gorgeous Bourgeois DB Sig OM...I've played both,and found the Martin a touch warmer and woodier....IMO(which means nothing,btw)the Bourgeois was a touch brighter in tonal balance,as compared to the OM Marquis Madi.

  This is just fine with me,but with the characteristics to be had from the 000-18A(which is pretty much set in stone for me,as I cannot see a better hog/small body git,that's really as good,to my tastes)contrasts beautifully with the warmer/woodier Marquis Madi Martin.If not for the specific contrasts of "that" combo,I'd opt for the Bourgeois....Only concern is my Dred Bourgeois will look very similar to the  DB Sig OM,should I go that way.It is still a possibility,but the guys on the D-28 lounge disagree with your take on the "A" series Martins....Of course it is all subjective -:)

  Hope this makes some sense-:)

  Best


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on December 06, 2008, 11:21:16 AM
Zohn,it's not that I have all that much moola,to afford these few gits I am about to get.I've ordered a Braz Bourgeois "DB-Sig" and want two small bodies,in a 000,and OM.Each with different woods.Then that's it!!For a long time!!I do currently have the Larri D-03R,which I like very much-:)

  This is just fine with me,but with the characteristics to be had from the 000-18A(which is pretty much set in stone for me,as I cannot see a better hog/small body git,that's really as good,to my tastes)contrasts beautifully with the warmer/woodier Marquis Madi Martin.If not for the specific contrasts of "that" combo,I'd opt for the Bourgeois....Only concern is my Dred Bourgeois will look very similar to the  DB Sig OM,should I go that way.It is still a possibility,but the guys on the D-28 lounge disagree with your take on the "A" series Martins....Of course it is all subjective -:)

  Hope this makes some sense-:)

  Best
If you say 000-18A I assume you mean Authentic? (or is it Adi) I have to say that I have not seen an Authentic, less had the chance to play one. My observation is more focused on the "golden era design or hype" in general, and not specific to the "GE"-series. I have played the 000-18GE, as well as stock 18-series vintage models, and my finding is the GE model is as good as I could possibly need, and some sort of sensibility in there too.I certainly would need a truss-rod, my goodness this is 2008!!!!, and surely some designs that came with time are for the better? Based upon that, I couldn't see myself paying the equivalent of $5000 more for the novelty of "hide-glue" and 1 or 2 other subtle additions. After all, that money could see me with a brand new H-13, shipped to Africa, or see me halfway towards an Olson...
I do respect and encourage your view fully, and if you can afford it, by all means - I would even be happy for you if you are!!!! The Martin would undoubtedly be more valuable at re-sale time vs. the Bourgeois though, but I doubt I would ever sell those instruments anyway.
Thanks for your objective view. :donut  Much appreciated!!!  :cheers


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 06, 2008, 04:03:35 PM
Zohn,I do "so" enjoy your thoughts!!Well,I'm on my way to my music emporium,but I am going to give your insightful thoughts some "real" consideration...I'm going to take a hard look at my choices,and will play a load of gits,before handing over my cash.I believe I am open minded,BUT I really loved the 000-18 "Authentic" when I last played it(amongst others,btw).

  My small collection will consist of two "different" sounding beautiful Dreds(two types of Rosewood),and two different small body designs,with opposing wood choices,in a hog and a "third" Rosewood species in the OM.I'll have to leave it there for financial reasons,and the fact that I really don't want to start a museum.That's all I really need...."I Hope"!! :smile:


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 06, 2008, 11:06:37 PM
Zohn,I definitely owe you!!!I've just come back from buying my final two gits,and your thoughts impacted me greatly,after careful consideration,and alot of play......Surprisingly,I did not even get a single Martin,but DID get two gits,that I believe you had listed.I bought "solely" on sound/taste/playability,and never did looks,or mfgr enter into it!

  I'll post again later with specifics,but now my wife wants to go out,to dinner. :beer

  Thanks again for your insight!


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 07, 2008, 03:04:38 AM
Ok,a follow up to my last post.Also,thanks for the good intentions,and enthusiasm Zohn(or anyone else).....Sometimes being opinionated actually impacts some folks to "look a little deeper",and that is what happened with me.....I'll explain...

  I'd decided to go for a total of four gits,when I got back to this wonderful activity,of playing guitar.I'd had a years' worth of lessons awhile ago,but the kids,work,new home,etc, kinda side-tracked me..........Well,I'm back and this time dead serious!!But I really want to keep a lid on the collecting "thing".So,I sold off some overpriced/unreliable audio equipment,and "shebang"!!Here I am,and damn happy!!!

  Two months ago,I lucked into a really fine D-03R,after playing quite a few guitars,and deciding to get something I'd want to practice on alot,as well as take pride in. A "beater" was considered,but I felt I'd tire of it,so why not get something really well made and worth the cash outlay."That" guitar would be my Go-to Git,and I'd probably enjoy my practice time more.I sure do!

  I knew I'd want a small stable though,so I started to educate myself on great forums like this one.I was very impressed by the good natured,well intentioned folks here.I also played alot of guitars,and "thought" I'd had it down,as to what would "keep me happy", as  opposed to "make me happy".

  So,Zohn came along with a distinctively "opinionated" approach,but really well thought out,IMO!...I think I am an open minded person,and take pride in being a good consumer,so last night I really thought hard about... "is this Zohn guy on to something,"with his opinions about some mfgrs being a bit overhyped.Is there better to be had,by carefully considering what appeals to my taste,and can I bypass the industry hype once I get some guitar bling in my hands?I thought I'd had some good,solid feel for my preferrences,but what the heck,I'll really be open minded.Boy,did I have a nice day,today.Which is rare,with the normal stresses of every day things usually.I deserved "this"!!

  I went with cash in hand,today,to my preferred music emporium(Mandolin Bros) and played a load of guitars,for the "second" time(there) in three weeks.Including those I'd loved at that time.Those gits that were holding the lead,in my mind...for my money!!I "wanted" to like what I knew were fine instruments,but this " Zohn guy" had gotten to me somehow(in a good way)because I just had this feeling he was past the hype,and had opened me up to being a little more careful in my "final purchase" of two more gits.That being a smart consumer "thing" again....And I realize this is ALL just my own taste,and opinion....Nothing more!

  Ok,and sorry for the length here.....I wanted a nice little Hog OM,and a nice Rosewood OM.I've already got the Bourgeois Braz DB Sig Dred on custom order.Too much of a good thing,but that will be "IT",for good!!!...Definitely "poor house" after that -:)...The wife was OK with this,so what the heck....

  Wound up(instead of the Martin 000-18 Authentic)with a beautiful Collings OM-1A  Hog.Ohhhh,what a balanced sound,and a beautiful instrument.It really sounded,to me, a good bit richer,and better balanced to the 000-18A.Just to "my way of hearing it"....Adi topped too.

  Then,after playing and loving SO many fine Om's(Rosewoods here)I'd thought I was "solid" on either the Bourgeois DB sig,or the Martin Om -28 Marquis Madi.

  I still was open to a surprise,especially as to how this "Zohn guy" had opened me up to being a bit more aware of "spending my money to it's best",and today,I was going to buy!!!

  Well,on the floor(in a rack) I'd seen this new OM.It was not there three weeks ago."It must be a new addition" I thought.....so what the heck,I owe it to myself to give it a shot!...

  I'd just played,and really liked the Martin Om -28 MM,Bourgeois DB sig,Collings OM-2H Adi top,Santa Cruz OM EIR,Goodall Madi/Adi and a few others.....Now..."what is this,on the floor rack"?

   "I'll just give it a little play and put it down"...."I think I know what I want anyway"....."I don't even want to look at the headstock to see who makes it,'cause I kinda am set already".....Uh,OH!!!!..."What the heck is "THIS"?????...."HMM,maybe my ten dollar toll to get here,is not going to hurt so badly"!!

  "Maybe that Zohn guy is right"!!!...."Nobody else in this store is going to get near this thing,'cause it's coming home with me"!!.."Ok,let's see who makes this,and what kind of wood is this anyway"?...."Hmm,is this Cocobolo,or Zircote"?....."Not that it matters"!..."I've got to have it"!!!

  Pricewise it was two hundred dollars more than I was prepared to pay for the Martin(with some small custom shop upgrade,to the Martin),but I'd saved 1400 dollars,by not getting the 000-18 A,"AND" I'd really liked the Collings Hog better anyway....."this is gonna get interesting",I thought.Now how can I hide this for the next hour,and where?...Really!!!...I'm totally serious,as to how this played out.

  Hid it!!!Whew.....but some guy found it while I was trying to get the owner's attention,and it looked like his wife was going to pull out her checkbook for him,since she'd announced it was his Birthday gift......."OH NO,I'm a dead man"!!

  I found a way to GLOM it back into my possession,while the birthday boy was smitten with a Mcpherson,and headed straight to the shop owner,proclaiming   how much for the "two" gits??...Now I had his attention,big time...heh,heh.

  Turned out to be a two day old Huss & Dalton Custom BRAZ OM(unplayed my anyone else except me,and the birthday boy,who was now getting the Mcpherson....."thank God")...It has absolutely the most gorgeous asthetic I could  ever want,but of course,it was it's sound and feel that got me first.GOD,this is a gorgeous OM,and it has a stunning Bearclaw  Sitka Top!!

  Betweem "it" and the Collings(another gorgeous sounding git,with stunning/ almost irridescent Tortisoid Body Binding)I'd saved 1400 dollars over what I was prepared to spend for the two Martins(still superb guitars,btw),except that guy "Zohn" had been SO DARN INSISTENT,about being a good consumer and using some common sense,as well as just "thinking" about what you're about to spend your money on....I thought about "that",and can I do better,to my tastes.....


  THANKS ZOHN!!!...You've definitely made my weekend....BIG TIME!!  :wave

 

 

 


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Zohn on December 07, 2008, 09:28:12 AM
Ok,a follow up to my last post.Also,thanks for the good intentions,and enthusiasm Zohn(or anyone else).....Sometimes being opinionated actually impacts some folks to "look a little deeper",and that is what happened with me.....I'll explain...

 Boy,did I have a nice day,today.Which is rare,with the normal stresses of every day things usually.I deserved "this"!!

    Wound up with a beautiful Collings OM-1A  Hog.Ohhhh,what a balanced sound,and a beautiful instrument.It really sounded,to me, a good bit richer,and better balanced to the 000-18A.Just to "my way of hearing it"....Adi topped too.
 
   Pricewise it was two hundred dollars more than I was prepared to pay for the Martin(with some small custom shop upgrade,to the Martin),but I'd saved 1400 dollars,by not getting the 000-18 A,"AND" I'd really liked the Collings Hog better anyway....."this is gonna get interesting",I thought.Now how can I hide this for the next hour,and where?...Really!!!...I'm totally serious,as to how this played out.
  Turned out to be a two day old Huss & Dalton Custom BRAZ OM(unplayed my anyone else except me,and the birthday boy,who was now getting the Mcpherson....."thank God")...It has absolutely the most gorgeous asthetic I could  ever want,but of course,it was it's sound and feel that got me first.GOD,this is a gorgeous OM,and it has a stunning Bearclaw  Sitka Top!!
 
  THANKS ZOHN!!!...You've definitely made my weekend....BIG TIME!!  :wave
:nanadance  :nana_guitar :nanadance  :nana_guitar :nanadance  :nana_guitar :nanadance Well my oh my!!! I'm overwhelmed - what can I say?? - other than congratulations for coming out of this shopping spree with 2 marvelous  :bowdown: :bowdown: instruments, and the fact that you chose them on sober instinct.  We all seem to loose sanity when surrounded by different and seemingly heavenly choices, and the fact that you have the money to spend doesn't make it any easier either!! It seems though that sanity prevailed in your case, and you walked away with what you were determined to get!!!
Do you in any terms realize how privileged you are for being able to shop at Mandolin Bros? - count your blessings!!! I guess I would loose all logic and reasoning when surrounded by such a wonderful spread of instruments  :drool: ... Anyway, it seems you are very happy with your purchase, and if I had the least bit of influence on that, then I'm most happy!!! And thank you for the kind words. You made for a pleasant start to my Sunday morning. Please post some pics, and if you wish, drop me a mail at zohngen@absamail.co.za.
Best wishes and lots of blessings
Zohn  :donut


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 07, 2008, 05:11:41 PM
"and the fact that you have the money to spend".....NOT ANYMORE!!! :wave


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Randy_R on December 07, 2008, 07:51:19 PM
"and the fact that you have the money to spend".....NOT ANYMORE!!! :wave

Nice stable you've put together MagicTwanger. Although with a name like that, I'm surprised there's not a Froggy Bottom..

Seeing the pics will be a treat.



Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 07, 2008, 09:22:07 PM
Thanks SO much for the kindly support!.......The "picture thing" may not happen!Solely because I don't like to put my materialistic ego into my postings......This "post" story was meant to be a thank you,of sorts.How seemingly inocuous comments could still impact others,in a good way!

    To my way of thinking,anything I relate to is actually "more about" the fine folks lurking on this forum,and "not" about me.How someone like myself,is willing to learn from  guys like "YOU"!!
   No parades over what I may have,and in all seriousness the "skill set" of playing is really the most important aspect to me,and I'm sure I would be in awe of many of you guys.
   It's about what I've gotten from being a member of this forum,and my very first "thank you" posting of a few weeks ago,says it all!  :bgrin:

  Warmest regards to all.....


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: Melodeous on December 07, 2008, 10:09:28 PM
First off... :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :coffee :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2.

I have reached a point in my preferences where I will commission a guitar build from one of the many lesser-known  luthiers out there and probably come away with comparable quality and sound to Froggy, Goodall, Bourgeois, H&D, Collings, et al, and from the big name maker's custom shops as well. These little guys learned their trades while working at the afore-mentioned and know their stuff. Pricing discussions are taboo here so I will only mention they are the more economical path to great custom built guitars.

Like to have -

Goodall - RCJC - Currently own
Breedlove Focus - Currently own
Rovere OM Custom - On Order

Want -

Pending delivery from Rovere Guitars.

 


Title: Re: 5 top guitars if money was no object(or that you would just like to have)
Post by: magictwanger on December 08, 2008, 05:25:33 AM
Hey Randy,I kinda considered a Froggy(Btw,I guess you watched Andy's Gang too).They "are" supposedly superbly well crafted,and definitely gorgeous instruments,but I've got no access to try any.The wait is also LONG!!...But I know you were kidding around  regarding the Froggy thing.:guitar