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Title: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: Folkestone on December 17, 2007, 12:23:16 AM
Hi:

I'm looking for an acoustic amp that I can play around with.
Something from 30 to 50 watts would be fine for experimenting with and playing in pubs with every now and then.

I want something reliable but at the same time won't bankrupt me. 

Any suggestions?  What about the amps with FX?  For guitars such as I have (Larrivee L09 - Guild D55), with preamps, is there a big. diff between an acoustis amp and a combo?

I'd appreciate youir advice.

Jeff


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: bogie on December 17, 2007, 01:17:37 AM
It's been said here before many a time: ULTRASOUND, ULTRASOUND, ULTRASOUND

The 50W with Phantom Power (so that you can plug in guitar and mic at same time) can be found online for $499.


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: skramer on December 17, 2007, 12:38:08 PM
I love my Trace Elliott 30w Acoustic Amp.  You can find them on Ebay used from $200 - 400 deppending on condition. Great amp.


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: LaminateBoy on December 17, 2007, 04:19:58 PM
You also might want to try out the new L.R. Baggs Core 1 amp. I think it will be in stores in a few weeks. It is promising to be an exciting development in acoustic amps. Might be a tad expensive, though.


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: jimmyp on December 17, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
I use a Crate Gunnison that I am very happy with. Two channels, 60 watts, effects, and the PA part of it is very loud. JP


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: rockstar_not on December 18, 2007, 12:03:59 AM
Keyboard combo amps make fine acoustic guitar amps - and you don't have to pay a premium for brown vinyl and tweed grill cloth.   :thumb

Ultrasounds are nice also.



Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: Ghosting on January 06, 2008, 03:05:36 AM
I am also looking for a good accoustic amp for both vocals and guitar.  I've done some research on-line, and looked at the Ultrasound, but I'm not sure I want to spend $500.  I went to the local shop today (there is only one closer than an hour to our home  :smile:) and tried out a an Ibanez TA35.  It sounded fine to me, but I don't have anything to compare it to.

First of all, do any of you have experience with this amp, or have comments on clear alternatives?  What more are you getting for the extra cost of an Ultrasound?

I have read in some reviews that when you run two channels through one speaker you sometimes get a more muddy sound.  Is it the second speaker that makes the difference?

Also, the local shop is asking about $80 more for the Ibanez amp than Musicians Friend is.  I would really like to support the local shop, but what is a reasonable price difference here?

I'm on a quest for knowledge.   :smile:
-Dan


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: dberch on January 06, 2008, 04:08:31 AM
The Roland AC-60 is a really good two channel (mic and guirar) acoustic amp

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-AC60-Acoustic-Chorus-Combo-Amp?sku=480176X


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: eded on January 06, 2008, 07:14:53 PM
Ultrasound...  period.  Assuming a guitar w/pickup and a mic for vocals (SM-58 or similar, actually Audix OM-5 is my current dynamic vocla mic of choice).  An Ultrasound 50W can be had new for around $500 and used for a little more than half that pretty often.  For a solo AG and voice setup, there is no simpler and better sounding setup (IMO of course.)

Ed


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: Ghosting on January 06, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
I live in a pretty rural area, so my realistic choices for buying are pretty much a) the local shop (which I like to support), b) some place like MusiciansFriend, and c) eBay.

I'm looking on eBay, and I'm not seeing a lot of Ultrasounds, and they are going at around $400+shipping, which is really more than I want to spend.  That's why I was looking at the Ibanez.  I also found on eBay that the Fender acoustasonic Jr (which seems comparable to the Ultrasonic?) is more readily available at a cheaper price (around $300, including shipping).

I unserstand that a lot of you really like the Ultrasonic, and that it would probably be the best betif I wanted to spend $500, but what am I sacrificuing if I go with one of these other alternatives?

Sorry to be obtuse, but I am ignorant, so I can't help it.  :?


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: eded on January 06, 2008, 10:53:19 PM
Not to be obtuse myself but it sounds like you're pretty well decided so there's not a lot of sense discussing it.  You asked for advice and people gave it.  Don't be irritated if it isn't what you wanted to hear.  The Ibanez (and Fender) will amplify the guitar.  Of the ones I've tried, the Fender will do a little better of a job at it.  If price is the most important thing then choose the least expensive and get it.  I think I've seen some "acoustic" amps cheaper than the Ibanez or Fender. 

Ed


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: jimmyp on January 07, 2008, 02:50:11 AM
Again I highly recommend the Crate. I do a duo, sometimes trio with 2 guys that have Shertler Unicos(?). The little Crate more than holds its own, especially vocal wise, and is very loud with great effects, and the ability to hook up external speakers. I am not a Crate fan in general, but the newer acoustic amps are a great buy. JP


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: Michael T on January 07, 2008, 05:21:55 AM
I have a Ibenez Troubadour (decent little acoustic for the money), and a Fishman Loudbox performer. Sold my Ultrasound to get the performer. Tri-amped PA/combo, excellent clarity for vocal and acoustic 2 pre outs, and 1 DI mix (stereo blend) out too with XLRs. Great patch thru for boards and use as a monitor or a stand alone 2 channel 130w with phantom and phase control/feedback elimination. Super clean sound, just a few simple effects. A little pricey but turn the mids down and get some of the clearest acoustic sounds available (IMHO).


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: bluewyatt on January 26, 2008, 05:57:21 AM
i'm moving up to a Baggs A-Ref in a couple of weeks.  i'll be selling my roland AC 60 at a good price.  it's in mint condition and perfect for what you describe. 


Title: Re: Acoustic Amp Advice
Post by: Ghosting on January 26, 2008, 06:32:21 AM
Well... I ended up buying a Crate Durango (refurbished).  I tried out a couple others (the Ibanez and a Marshall that a friend of mine had).  In the end, after reading on the on-line reviews, it seemed like the best bang for the buch I could get.  Hope it works out.  It should be here next week, but I'll be out of town until Feb 15, so I guess I'll just have to wonder about it for a while longer.  :blush: