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Title: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: ElJefe on August 12, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
I play with a flatpick most of the time but last night, I sat outside and played fingerstyle.  I can see why so many play fingerstyle exclusively.

Current fingerstyle guitar?      Larrivee 000-50  (It does it all)

Next fingerstyle guitar?        Maybe a Huss & Dalton 00-SP 

Your turn.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: imwjl on August 12, 2007, 01:32:32 PM
I'll confess to having little interest beyond dreads and my Tele, but the scratched NOS OMV I picked up is really growing on me, and I'm playing fingerstyle and all styles with it.

No interest in new guitars right now or in the foreseeable future because my HD-28 (Martin) and OMV are getting all the play. I'll probably sell my D-03. The D-03 is beautiful, but no dread plays and sounds like my aging HD-28 and the OMV keeps growing on me.

Basically I have an appreciation for fancy guitars, but I'm trying to concentrate on playing more than on stuff.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Tycho on August 12, 2007, 04:22:20 PM
I absolutely love my new Martin D-18V for flatpicking, and it also sounds good for some kinds of fingerstyle, but it gave me a useful lesson the other day in why balance is such an important thing for fingerstyle playing.  I used it to play Bruce Cockburn's "Sunwheel Dance," one of my favourite fingerstyle tunes.  That tune sounds great on each of my six-string Larrivees -- the 00, the OM and even the D.  But on the Martin it was ridiculously bottom-heavy, which kind of ruins the tune, since so much of the melody happens in the mid and upper ranges.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: noyage on August 12, 2007, 04:26:03 PM
Maybe a Huss & Dalton 00-SP 

I'm still haunted by an 00-SP I played at a store in Wash. D.C.  Really great guitar.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: golfmaniac1 on August 12, 2007, 05:46:01 PM
I love to play fingerstyle and have a blueridge br-183.  I also have a martin and the blueridge blows it out of the water, in fingerstyle at least.  I'm getting an L-10 soon and someday I would love to own a stonebridge or a Bashkin guitar.  The stonebridge is a little more reasonable however. 


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Hoser Rob on August 12, 2007, 06:48:03 PM
Next fingerstyle guitar I'll get will have:

A 2 1/4" spacing at the saddle.  That's the most important thing, much more than the nut.  Most acoustics are 2 1/8".  I can fingerpick those but barely.

A response that'll give you a decent volume with a light pluck, also essential for fingerstyle.  Sample variation dictates that no particular model or body style will necessarily be better.  In other words, I'll be trying it first.

Actually, a Strat with the vintage style bridge (about 2 1/4") makes a great fingerstyle guitar.  Mark Knopfler and Richard Thompson have had pretty good luck with them.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: JoeInLex on August 12, 2007, 11:47:13 PM

I have a Recording King RO-16 that was not only very cheap but has turned out to be a terrific guitar for fingerstyle due to its short scale, wide nut and saddle spacing, and a pre-war sound that just zings with life.   Of course, this is my opinion of the sound.  I'm sure that someone else out there would disagree because what sounds and plays good to one person may not be the best answer for everyone.    How did I find this guitar???   When I travel on business I tend to locate all the decent guitar stores in the area and try to visit at least one.  I just got lucky and found it.  Would I have purchased one without playing it first, NO.  Too much variability between guitars even from the same manufacturer. 

My point.................. try to play as many guitars as you can so that you can make as educated a purchase as you can "for your own particular needs".


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: flip33 on August 13, 2007, 04:39:14 PM
I wonder if Larrivee has a guitar similar to the Martin 000-15S.  Its a great fingerstyle hog top with 2 1/4 saddle spacing, 1 3/4 nut spacing and a 12 fret 000 body.  Great balanced bottom end and a woody, percussive tone for jazzy blue finger work.

I like it.

However, I do have an L-03 on the way for a more resonant, blooming tone.

 :donut


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: JasonA on August 13, 2007, 04:54:25 PM
As far as I know, Larrivee doesn't make ANY guitars with the wider saddle spacing. Only the nut width varies. I agree that 2-1/4 (or 2-5/16) makes for much more comfortable fingerstyle playing.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Blue in VT on August 13, 2007, 05:13:46 PM
I love my OMs for fingerpickin blues....works just fine for me....in fact its all I play...I tried to strum a song the other day with a pick...it was a nightmare...like starting over again from the beginning... :blush:

 :cheers

Blue



Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: ducktrapper on August 13, 2007, 05:41:51 PM
I got it covered, guitar-wise. If only my fingers would co-operate.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: bhika on August 13, 2007, 06:01:37 PM
As far as I know, Larrivee doesn't make ANY guitars with the wider saddle spacing. Only the nut width varies. I agree that 2-1/4 (or 2-5/16) makes for much more comfortable fingerstyle playing.

My 000-50 has 2 5/16" spacing, as do all the traditional series.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: JasonA on August 13, 2007, 06:33:12 PM
Really?? Glad to hear it!  I inquired when those first came out and was told that they were still 2-3/16. Don't know if Larrivee made a change or I was misinformed, but either way that's great.

Oh, and the traditional series OM-50 I used to have definitely did not have that spacing...


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: ducktrapper on August 13, 2007, 08:24:43 PM
Take a better look or typo? OOO's have a one 1 and 13/16th inch nut width.

http://www.larrivee.com/flash/products/guitars/OOO-50/ooo50.html


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: tuffythepug on August 13, 2007, 09:11:26 PM
Take a better look or typo? OOO's have a one 1 and 13/16th inch nut width.

http://www.larrivee.com/flash/products/guitars/OOO-50/ooo50.html

Duck
I believe they were referring to saddle spacing rather than nut width unless I read the posts incorrectly.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: ducktrapper on August 13, 2007, 09:55:43 PM
Well alright then. Just ignore the man behind the curtain.  :arrow


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: hal537 on August 14, 2007, 07:22:31 AM
My 000-50 has 2 5/16" spacing, as do all the traditional series.

As far as I know, Larrivee doesn't make ANY guitars with the wider saddle spacing. Only the nut width varies. I agree that 2-1/4 (or 2-5/16) makes for much more comfortable fingerstyle playing.

My SD50-MT measures at 2 3/8ths at the saddle.  It does however have a 1 7/8ths nut width which many find a tad wide.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Parlor Picker on August 14, 2007, 09:05:00 AM
I love my OMs for fingerpickin blues....works just fine for me....in fact its all I play...I tried to strum a song the other day with a pick...it was a nightmare...like starting over again from the beginning... :blush:

 :cheers

Blue



I can't use fingerpicks, thumbpicks, flatpicks or any picks.  I fingerpick with my nails and for strumming I have this bizarre technique of holding my index finger between my thumb and second finger - so my index finger nail becomes a kind of flatpick.  I like the control you get from feeling the strings.  When I tried fingerpicks my fingers slid all over the strings, hitting the wrong ones, etc.  I like to feel that string as I pluck it.  Fortunately my nails seem to remain intact.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on August 14, 2007, 11:02:13 AM
I'm still haunted by an 00-SP I played at a store in Wash. D.C.  Really great guitar.
I used to use my Huss & Dalton 00-SP as a fingerstyle guitar. But then it took over for all my acoustic playing. Simply a monster guitar. Nothing small sounding about it.

-Jonathan


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: LookingForLarri on August 14, 2007, 04:45:03 PM
What do I use for Fingerstyle ?

Huss & Dalton 000
Santa Cruz OM

H&D make some fantastic intruments


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Pjmsj21 on August 14, 2007, 11:59:22 PM
I really have found my playing improve with the addition of my Webber Roundbody (cedar/mahogany).  The wider nut at 1&13/16ths and the wider string spacing at 2&5/16ths has really made a difference for me...not to mention the cedar top which is very responsive to a lighter bare fingers style of playing.

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6541/summerandfall2006031gk8.th.jpg) (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=summerandfall2006031gk8.jpg)


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Denis on August 15, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
I really have found my playing improve with the addition of my Webber Roundbody (cedar/mahogany).  The wider nut at 1&13/16ths and the wider string spacing at 2&5/16ths has really made a difference for me...not to mention the cedar top which is very responsive to a lighter bare fingers style of playing.

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6541/summerandfall2006031gk8.th.jpg) (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=summerandfall2006031gk8.jpg)


So nice Pat...I love that Webber of yours.  Cedar and mahogany, great combination for fingerstyle, woody and warm!!  I'm still picking on that all mahogany parlor you sold me...love more and more all the time.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: ronmac on August 15, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
If you get the chance to try one of Dana Bourgeois' new DBJ model, designed specifically for a fingerstyle player, don't pass it up. These statements by David Wren of the Twelfth Fret pretty much sum up my feelings of those instruments:

What a truly "alive" sounding instrument!  This guitar is positively BURSTING with layer upon layer upon LAYER of sound!!!  With a very strong, warm bass and lower midrange response as a foundation,  this guitar then sprays you with a shower of overtones that changes with every subtle change in your attack.  This instrument really will keep even the most fickle fingerstyle connoisseur engaged for many many years!

It is almost ironic that the luthier who has so many prominent flatpicking recording artists playing his instruments,  builds one of the nicest fingerstyle guitars I've ever heard!  Every time we get one of these DBJ models in our store,  and I mean EVERY time,  it invariably gets singled out by our customers as "the best fingerstyle guitar I've ever played!"

This guitar not only has an openness and immediacy of response that would satisfy the most demanding player,  but an overall warmth and profound presence that simply crushes most other fingerstyle instruments!


Over blown salesmanship? Not at all! Everything he says is confirmed to me each time I play mine...



Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Pjmsj21 on August 16, 2007, 10:10:07 PM
So nice Pat...I love that Webber of yours.  Cedar and mahogany, great combination for fingerstyle, woody and warm!!  I'm still picking on that all mahogany parlor you sold me...love more and more all the time.

Hey Denis

Glad to hear that you are still enjoying the parlor.  I bet with all your playing it is really sounding good.  Most of my playing time is going to the Webber but I have started to use the L03R for dropped tuinings and as you would guess sounds great, so the Larrivee is strating to get a bit more playing time. 

Pa


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Denis on August 17, 2007, 12:10:58 PM
Hey Denis

Glad to hear that you are still enjoying the parlor.  I bet with all your playing it is really sounding good.  Most of my playing time is going to the Webber but I have started to use the L03R for dropped tuinings and as you would guess sounds great, so the Larrivee is strating to get a bit more playing time. 

Pa

Pat, as much as I love my guitars, I would love to have the same combination as you.  Talbk about 2 completely different animals!!!  A rw/sitka L and cedar/mahogany Webber!  Like chocolate and caramel!


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Stringdancer on August 19, 2007, 03:53:32 AM
Speaking of Huss & Dalton....man is this thing purty,or what?

http://www.guitargal.com/gifs/hd000burst.jpg

http://www.guitargal.com/gifs/hd000burstbk.jpg

http://www.guitargal.com/gifs/hd000burstclose.jpg

http://www.guitargal.com/gifs/hd000burstside.jpg


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Tony Burns on September 01, 2007, 01:09:42 PM
For fingerstyle I first bought my Martin OM28v , has one of the warmest tones Ive ever heard or felt - then i picked up a Larrivee OMv60 , that is probably my favorite ( at the moment ) but as silly as this sounds sometimes i put my Dick Boak Dread into DADGAD and i think thats the most perfect guitar for fingerstyle , sometimes having the strings closer together for me is easier to play certain kinds of music - I honestly think theirs no rules when it comes to fingerstyle guitars - theirs is so much variety in music styles from one player to the next -


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 03, 2007, 05:13:57 PM

I play only fingerstyle, no picks.

I love my H&D 00-SP, except mine has a 1.75 nut width & I do prefer a 1 13/16 - which my Gibson Smeck, Martin Norman Blake & my soon-to-arrive Collings 001 have.

Pics Here:

http://music.jeffersoncampervan.com/

I play with a flatpick most of the time but last night, I sat outside and played fingerstyle.  I can see why so many play fingerstyle exclusively.

Current fingerstyle guitar?      Larrivee 000-50  (It does it all)

Next fingerstyle guitar?        Maybe a Huss & Dalton 00-SP 

Your turn.


Title: Re: Fingerstyle Guitars
Post by: Yggdrasil on September 03, 2007, 05:16:46 PM
Next fingerstyle guitar I'll get will have:

A 2 1/4" spacing at the saddle.  That's the most important thing, much more than the nut.  Most acoustics are 2 1/8".  I can fingerpick those but barely.



I think nut width is very important, but I agrre that saddle spacing is equally so. My martin 000-28NB is the widest guitar I have at the saddle;y my Larrivee Parlor the narrowest.

http://music.jeffersoncampervan.com/