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Title: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: aaronjnoone on October 06, 2006, 01:39:22 PM
Hi all,

I'm trying to decide which P/U to put in my 12-string. I do not want a UST, unless it's part of a blend. I keep hearing great things about the Pure Western and the Baggs I-Beam. I can't say I've heard either one of these, but people have said they are pretty accurate. I was wondering if any of you can help me decide, based on your own personal experience with K&K, Baggs, or 12-strings.

thanks everybody,
Aaron


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: Caleb on October 07, 2006, 04:49:26 AM
ive got a pure western in my larrivee dread. im not going to pretend like i have tons of experience with acoustic pickups (since i dont), but i have got nothing but great sound out of my guitars plugged in sound. i have always just plugged directly into the house systems where ive played, and have never used it with an acoustic amp. the thing i like about it is that it actually sounds like my guitar, only amplified. none of that plastic or boxy sounding mess you hear with some plugged in guitars. just nice clear sound - especially when the soundman dials it in just right. if i remember correctly, the pure western was a bit cheaper than the competition as well. i think they were a newer company then, and the prices may have went up a bit since, but i highly recommend one.


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: dberch on October 07, 2006, 05:48:46 PM
+1 for K&K Mini.  I have them on three guitars.  Here's a cliip of my K&K equipped Larrive OM-05MT.  Direct.  NO mic.
http://home.mchsi.com/~dberch/MP3s/The_Fisherman.mp3 (http://home.mchsi.com/~dberch/MP3s/The_Fisherman.mp3)
This is exactly what my audience hears and it sounds just like my guitar.  I'm very pleased.  It sound just as good strummed, but I don't have a sample of that.

Now if you're going to play frequently in VERY loud venues (500+ people) plus 15" monitors on stage, you'll probably get some feedback.  You might consider another option, such as D-Tar Wavelength or Baggs M1, or just and a Baggs Feedback Master.

David


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: aaronjnoone on October 07, 2006, 06:40:53 PM
+1 for K&K Mini.  I have them on three guitars.  Here's a cliip of my K&K equipped Larrive OM-05MT.  Direct.  NO mic.
http://home.mchsi.com/~dberch/MP3s/The_Fisherman.mp3 (http://home.mchsi.com/~dberch/MP3s/The_Fisherman.mp3)
This is exactly what my audience hears and it sounds just like my guitar.  I'm very pleased.  It sound just as good strummed, but I don't have a sample of that.

Now if you're going to play frequently in VERY loud venues (500+ people) plus 15" monitors on stage, you'll probably get some feedback.  You might consider another option, such as D-Tar Wavelength or Baggs M1, or just and a Baggs Feedback Master.

David


That does sound pretty good. A lot better than a UST. Nice picking, by the way, thanks for that.

Not that I'm going to get percussive on my 12string, but how does it respond to aggressive/percussive strumming and soundboard taps?


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: dberch on October 08, 2006, 03:34:33 PM
Extremely well.  Not quite as good as a mic, but good enough I would think.  You can always add a mic to your K&K with the Trinity upgrade kit: http://kksound.com/trinityupgrade.html


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: aaronjnoone on October 09, 2006, 04:00:18 PM
That's amazing, for being so affordable, and being passive. Thanks for the info, Dave. :thumb


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: LawDogStrgsAttach on October 10, 2006, 02:12:55 AM
I was pessimistic...but I bought a mini for my LV03-12 and installed myself...just WOW.  Very impressive and I was very shocked at the price to tone ratio.  hard to beat!


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: patrickgm60 on October 12, 2006, 04:59:25 PM
Another "thumbs up" here for the K&K.  I have the mini Western on my LV and the K&K Western Classical (?) on my nylon guitar.  Both sound very "real" through amps and pa sytems, both fingerstyle and strumming.  I have been able to prevent feedback in loud environments with the Feedback Buster.  I recommend the K&K preamp, as well, which boosts your signal a bit and gives you convenient volume and eq.


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: aaronjnoone on October 20, 2006, 05:49:06 PM
Welp,

I installed my Pure Western mini in my 12-string today, left some of my finger-skin superglued to my bridge plate, and man, I can't believe how this thing sounds. Not as full as my blender unit on my Larry, but nicely balanced and true. It's perfect for this guitar. You turn up the gain a little more, add some lows and voila! You've got a nice, full, even tone.

Props to K&K for putting out this affordable unit.


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: HangFire on October 22, 2006, 04:23:40 PM
I've got the K&K Pure Western full size in my #1 Dread and it sounds great, no feedback, and the soundman loves it! :thumbsup


Title: Re: Who uses a Pure Western?
Post by: Zach on October 23, 2006, 02:45:32 PM
It's the only pickup I'll use.